Causal Inference in Statistics: Backdoor Criteria Example on p. 62 and 63












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I am a reading Judea Pearl's (etc) book Causal Inference in Statistics: A Primer and I'm stuck on an example on p. 62 and 63 that seems very important to understanding the point he's making.



He gives the example of using the backdoor criteria on Figure 2.8 (on p. 48) and points out that to determine an intervention of x on y is trivial because P(y|do(X)) = P(Y|X).



He goes on to ask about what would happen if you adjusted (conditioned) on W. He says this would open a backdoor to influencing Y. But I just can't see how that is the case.



He goes on to explain that W would open the path X -> W <-Z <-> T -> Y. But when I look at Figure 2.8 on 48, I see no double arrow between Z and T. So I don't understand the example or why it opens a backdoor.










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  • Right after adding this question, I partially answered my own question. I can see now that Figure 2.8 is showing that conditioning on W would open a backdoor to Y because knowing W opens a path to Z which in turn tells you something about T, which in turn tells you something about Y. However, I'm still confused by the way he draws a double arrow between Z and T and what that even means.
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I am a reading Judea Pearl's (etc) book Causal Inference in Statistics: A Primer and I'm stuck on an example on p. 62 and 63 that seems very important to understanding the point he's making.



He gives the example of using the backdoor criteria on Figure 2.8 (on p. 48) and points out that to determine an intervention of x on y is trivial because P(y|do(X)) = P(Y|X).



He goes on to ask about what would happen if you adjusted (conditioned) on W. He says this would open a backdoor to influencing Y. But I just can't see how that is the case.



He goes on to explain that W would open the path X -> W <-Z <-> T -> Y. But when I look at Figure 2.8 on 48, I see no double arrow between Z and T. So I don't understand the example or why it opens a backdoor.










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  • Right after adding this question, I partially answered my own question. I can see now that Figure 2.8 is showing that conditioning on W would open a backdoor to Y because knowing W opens a path to Z which in turn tells you something about T, which in turn tells you something about Y. However, I'm still confused by the way he draws a double arrow between Z and T and what that even means.
    – Bruce Nielson
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I am a reading Judea Pearl's (etc) book Causal Inference in Statistics: A Primer and I'm stuck on an example on p. 62 and 63 that seems very important to understanding the point he's making.



He gives the example of using the backdoor criteria on Figure 2.8 (on p. 48) and points out that to determine an intervention of x on y is trivial because P(y|do(X)) = P(Y|X).



He goes on to ask about what would happen if you adjusted (conditioned) on W. He says this would open a backdoor to influencing Y. But I just can't see how that is the case.



He goes on to explain that W would open the path X -> W <-Z <-> T -> Y. But when I look at Figure 2.8 on 48, I see no double arrow between Z and T. So I don't understand the example or why it opens a backdoor.










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I am a reading Judea Pearl's (etc) book Causal Inference in Statistics: A Primer and I'm stuck on an example on p. 62 and 63 that seems very important to understanding the point he's making.



He gives the example of using the backdoor criteria on Figure 2.8 (on p. 48) and points out that to determine an intervention of x on y is trivial because P(y|do(X)) = P(Y|X).



He goes on to ask about what would happen if you adjusted (conditioned) on W. He says this would open a backdoor to influencing Y. But I just can't see how that is the case.



He goes on to explain that W would open the path X -> W <-Z <-> T -> Y. But when I look at Figure 2.8 on 48, I see no double arrow between Z and T. So I don't understand the example or why it opens a backdoor.







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  • Right after adding this question, I partially answered my own question. I can see now that Figure 2.8 is showing that conditioning on W would open a backdoor to Y because knowing W opens a path to Z which in turn tells you something about T, which in turn tells you something about Y. However, I'm still confused by the way he draws a double arrow between Z and T and what that even means.
    – Bruce Nielson
    2 days ago


















  • Right after adding this question, I partially answered my own question. I can see now that Figure 2.8 is showing that conditioning on W would open a backdoor to Y because knowing W opens a path to Z which in turn tells you something about T, which in turn tells you something about Y. However, I'm still confused by the way he draws a double arrow between Z and T and what that even means.
    – Bruce Nielson
    2 days ago
















Right after adding this question, I partially answered my own question. I can see now that Figure 2.8 is showing that conditioning on W would open a backdoor to Y because knowing W opens a path to Z which in turn tells you something about T, which in turn tells you something about Y. However, I'm still confused by the way he draws a double arrow between Z and T and what that even means.
– Bruce Nielson
2 days ago




Right after adding this question, I partially answered my own question. I can see now that Figure 2.8 is showing that conditioning on W would open a backdoor to Y because knowing W opens a path to Z which in turn tells you something about T, which in turn tells you something about Y. However, I'm still confused by the way he draws a double arrow between Z and T and what that even means.
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