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How can I define a neighborhood (not only $delta$ neighborhood) of a point in $mathbb R$.



without using metric concept.



According to rudin's definition which must be a open set.










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According to rudin's definition which must be a open set.










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How can I define a neighborhood (not only $delta$ neighborhood) of a point in $mathbb R$.



without using metric concept.



According to rudin's definition which must be a open set.










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How can I define a neighborhood (not only $delta$ neighborhood) of a point in $mathbb R$.



without using metric concept.



According to rudin's definition which must be a open set.





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    If $mathcal T $ is a topology on $Bbb R $, a neighborhood of a point $a$ is any open set $U$ (that is $Uin mathcal T $) containing $a$.
    $endgroup$
    – Thomas Shelby
    Jan 12 at 11:54




















  • $begingroup$
    If $mathcal T $ is a topology on $Bbb R $, a neighborhood of a point $a$ is any open set $U$ (that is $Uin mathcal T $) containing $a$.
    $endgroup$
    – Thomas Shelby
    Jan 12 at 11:54


















$begingroup$
If $mathcal T $ is a topology on $Bbb R $, a neighborhood of a point $a$ is any open set $U$ (that is $Uin mathcal T $) containing $a$.
$endgroup$
– Thomas Shelby
Jan 12 at 11:54






$begingroup$
If $mathcal T $ is a topology on $Bbb R $, a neighborhood of a point $a$ is any open set $U$ (that is $Uin mathcal T $) containing $a$.
$endgroup$
– Thomas Shelby
Jan 12 at 11:54












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You need some concept. If you don't want metric concept, then you at the very least need topology. And in topology, rather than a metric, all you have available to work with is the collection of all subsets of $Bbb R$ which we call "open".



In this context, a neighborhood of $xinBbb R$ is simply any such open set which contains $x$.






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    A small clarification: in some books any set which contains an open set containing $x$ is called a neighborhood of $x$.
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    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Jan 12 at 12:06










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    @KaviRamaMurthy exactly.In many undergrad books it is written.
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    – Supriyo Banerjee
    Jan 12 at 12:11










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    @KaviRamaMurthy You're right. With that convention, an open neighborhood is an open set containing the point, and a neighborhood is any set which contains an open neighborhood.
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    – Arthur
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You need some concept. If you don't want metric concept, then you at the very least need topology. And in topology, rather than a metric, all you have available to work with is the collection of all subsets of $Bbb R$ which we call "open".



In this context, a neighborhood of $xinBbb R$ is simply any such open set which contains $x$.






share|cite|improve this answer









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  • 2




    $begingroup$
    A small clarification: in some books any set which contains an open set containing $x$ is called a neighborhood of $x$.
    $endgroup$
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Jan 12 at 12:06










  • $begingroup$
    @KaviRamaMurthy exactly.In many undergrad books it is written.
    $endgroup$
    – Supriyo Banerjee
    Jan 12 at 12:11










  • $begingroup$
    @KaviRamaMurthy You're right. With that convention, an open neighborhood is an open set containing the point, and a neighborhood is any set which contains an open neighborhood.
    $endgroup$
    – Arthur
    Jan 12 at 14:05
















5












$begingroup$

You need some concept. If you don't want metric concept, then you at the very least need topology. And in topology, rather than a metric, all you have available to work with is the collection of all subsets of $Bbb R$ which we call "open".



In this context, a neighborhood of $xinBbb R$ is simply any such open set which contains $x$.






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$









  • 2




    $begingroup$
    A small clarification: in some books any set which contains an open set containing $x$ is called a neighborhood of $x$.
    $endgroup$
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Jan 12 at 12:06










  • $begingroup$
    @KaviRamaMurthy exactly.In many undergrad books it is written.
    $endgroup$
    – Supriyo Banerjee
    Jan 12 at 12:11










  • $begingroup$
    @KaviRamaMurthy You're right. With that convention, an open neighborhood is an open set containing the point, and a neighborhood is any set which contains an open neighborhood.
    $endgroup$
    – Arthur
    Jan 12 at 14:05














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$begingroup$

You need some concept. If you don't want metric concept, then you at the very least need topology. And in topology, rather than a metric, all you have available to work with is the collection of all subsets of $Bbb R$ which we call "open".



In this context, a neighborhood of $xinBbb R$ is simply any such open set which contains $x$.






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$



You need some concept. If you don't want metric concept, then you at the very least need topology. And in topology, rather than a metric, all you have available to work with is the collection of all subsets of $Bbb R$ which we call "open".



In this context, a neighborhood of $xinBbb R$ is simply any such open set which contains $x$.







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answered Jan 12 at 11:58









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  • 2




    $begingroup$
    A small clarification: in some books any set which contains an open set containing $x$ is called a neighborhood of $x$.
    $endgroup$
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Jan 12 at 12:06










  • $begingroup$
    @KaviRamaMurthy exactly.In many undergrad books it is written.
    $endgroup$
    – Supriyo Banerjee
    Jan 12 at 12:11










  • $begingroup$
    @KaviRamaMurthy You're right. With that convention, an open neighborhood is an open set containing the point, and a neighborhood is any set which contains an open neighborhood.
    $endgroup$
    – Arthur
    Jan 12 at 14:05














  • 2




    $begingroup$
    A small clarification: in some books any set which contains an open set containing $x$ is called a neighborhood of $x$.
    $endgroup$
    – Kavi Rama Murthy
    Jan 12 at 12:06










  • $begingroup$
    @KaviRamaMurthy exactly.In many undergrad books it is written.
    $endgroup$
    – Supriyo Banerjee
    Jan 12 at 12:11










  • $begingroup$
    @KaviRamaMurthy You're right. With that convention, an open neighborhood is an open set containing the point, and a neighborhood is any set which contains an open neighborhood.
    $endgroup$
    – Arthur
    Jan 12 at 14:05








2




2




$begingroup$
A small clarification: in some books any set which contains an open set containing $x$ is called a neighborhood of $x$.
$endgroup$
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 12 at 12:06




$begingroup$
A small clarification: in some books any set which contains an open set containing $x$ is called a neighborhood of $x$.
$endgroup$
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 12 at 12:06












$begingroup$
@KaviRamaMurthy exactly.In many undergrad books it is written.
$endgroup$
– Supriyo Banerjee
Jan 12 at 12:11




$begingroup$
@KaviRamaMurthy exactly.In many undergrad books it is written.
$endgroup$
– Supriyo Banerjee
Jan 12 at 12:11












$begingroup$
@KaviRamaMurthy You're right. With that convention, an open neighborhood is an open set containing the point, and a neighborhood is any set which contains an open neighborhood.
$endgroup$
– Arthur
Jan 12 at 14:05




$begingroup$
@KaviRamaMurthy You're right. With that convention, an open neighborhood is an open set containing the point, and a neighborhood is any set which contains an open neighborhood.
$endgroup$
– Arthur
Jan 12 at 14:05



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