Hints find $Z$ so that $n min{X_{1},…,X_{n}}xrightarrow{d} Z$












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Let $n in mathbb N$ while $(X_{i})_{i=1}^{n}$ are independent and uniformly distributed random variables on $[0,1]$ and define $M_{n}:=min{X_{1},...,X_{n}}$.



Find a $Z$ so that $n M_{n}xrightarrow{d} Z$



Solution:



If we can show $lim_{n to infty}P(nM_{n}>z)=P(Z>z)$ then it immediately follows by the definition of the cdf that $lim_{n to infty}F_{X_{n}}=F_{Z}$



$P(nM_{n}> z)=P(nX_{1} > z,...nX_{n}>z)=prod_{i=1}^{n}P(nX_{1}>z)=(P(nX_{i}>z))^{n}=(int_{frac{z}{n}}^{1}1dx)^n=(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}1_{z in [0,n]}$



For $lim_{n to infty}(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}=e^{-z}$



So we can choose $Z$~$exp({-z})$ where $z in [0, n]$ such that



$nM_{n} xrightarrow{d} Z$



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    Check: stats.stackexchange.com/questions/18433/…
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    – lightxbulb
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    Unfortunately, since you do not have a sum/average, you cannot use central limit theorem here. Try computing the distribution function directly and take $n to infty$.
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    – angryavian
    Jan 14 at 20:58
















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Let $n in mathbb N$ while $(X_{i})_{i=1}^{n}$ are independent and uniformly distributed random variables on $[0,1]$ and define $M_{n}:=min{X_{1},...,X_{n}}$.



Find a $Z$ so that $n M_{n}xrightarrow{d} Z$



Solution:



If we can show $lim_{n to infty}P(nM_{n}>z)=P(Z>z)$ then it immediately follows by the definition of the cdf that $lim_{n to infty}F_{X_{n}}=F_{Z}$



$P(nM_{n}> z)=P(nX_{1} > z,...nX_{n}>z)=prod_{i=1}^{n}P(nX_{1}>z)=(P(nX_{i}>z))^{n}=(int_{frac{z}{n}}^{1}1dx)^n=(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}1_{z in [0,n]}$



For $lim_{n to infty}(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}=e^{-z}$



So we can choose $Z$~$exp({-z})$ where $z in [0, n]$ such that



$nM_{n} xrightarrow{d} Z$



Is this correct?










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    Check: stats.stackexchange.com/questions/18433/…
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    – lightxbulb
    Jan 14 at 20:52










  • $begingroup$
    Unfortunately, since you do not have a sum/average, you cannot use central limit theorem here. Try computing the distribution function directly and take $n to infty$.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Jan 14 at 20:58














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Let $n in mathbb N$ while $(X_{i})_{i=1}^{n}$ are independent and uniformly distributed random variables on $[0,1]$ and define $M_{n}:=min{X_{1},...,X_{n}}$.



Find a $Z$ so that $n M_{n}xrightarrow{d} Z$



Solution:



If we can show $lim_{n to infty}P(nM_{n}>z)=P(Z>z)$ then it immediately follows by the definition of the cdf that $lim_{n to infty}F_{X_{n}}=F_{Z}$



$P(nM_{n}> z)=P(nX_{1} > z,...nX_{n}>z)=prod_{i=1}^{n}P(nX_{1}>z)=(P(nX_{i}>z))^{n}=(int_{frac{z}{n}}^{1}1dx)^n=(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}1_{z in [0,n]}$



For $lim_{n to infty}(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}=e^{-z}$



So we can choose $Z$~$exp({-z})$ where $z in [0, n]$ such that



$nM_{n} xrightarrow{d} Z$



Is this correct?










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Let $n in mathbb N$ while $(X_{i})_{i=1}^{n}$ are independent and uniformly distributed random variables on $[0,1]$ and define $M_{n}:=min{X_{1},...,X_{n}}$.



Find a $Z$ so that $n M_{n}xrightarrow{d} Z$



Solution:



If we can show $lim_{n to infty}P(nM_{n}>z)=P(Z>z)$ then it immediately follows by the definition of the cdf that $lim_{n to infty}F_{X_{n}}=F_{Z}$



$P(nM_{n}> z)=P(nX_{1} > z,...nX_{n}>z)=prod_{i=1}^{n}P(nX_{1}>z)=(P(nX_{i}>z))^{n}=(int_{frac{z}{n}}^{1}1dx)^n=(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}1_{z in [0,n]}$



For $lim_{n to infty}(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}=e^{-z}$



So we can choose $Z$~$exp({-z})$ where $z in [0, n]$ such that



$nM_{n} xrightarrow{d} Z$



Is this correct?







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    Check: stats.stackexchange.com/questions/18433/…
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    – lightxbulb
    Jan 14 at 20:52










  • $begingroup$
    Unfortunately, since you do not have a sum/average, you cannot use central limit theorem here. Try computing the distribution function directly and take $n to infty$.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Jan 14 at 20:58


















  • $begingroup$
    Check: stats.stackexchange.com/questions/18433/…
    $endgroup$
    – lightxbulb
    Jan 14 at 20:52










  • $begingroup$
    Unfortunately, since you do not have a sum/average, you cannot use central limit theorem here. Try computing the distribution function directly and take $n to infty$.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Jan 14 at 20:58
















$begingroup$
Check: stats.stackexchange.com/questions/18433/…
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– lightxbulb
Jan 14 at 20:52




$begingroup$
Check: stats.stackexchange.com/questions/18433/…
$endgroup$
– lightxbulb
Jan 14 at 20:52












$begingroup$
Unfortunately, since you do not have a sum/average, you cannot use central limit theorem here. Try computing the distribution function directly and take $n to infty$.
$endgroup$
– angryavian
Jan 14 at 20:58




$begingroup$
Unfortunately, since you do not have a sum/average, you cannot use central limit theorem here. Try computing the distribution function directly and take $n to infty$.
$endgroup$
– angryavian
Jan 14 at 20:58










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For each $n$, compute $P(nM_n > z)$.




$$P(nM_n > z) = (1 - frac{z}{n})^n cdot 1_{z in [0, n]}.$$




Then
$$P(Z > z) = lim_{z to infty} P(n M_n > z) = cdots$$
and hopefully you recognize the resulting distribution.






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    How did you get $P(nM_{n} > z)=(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}1_{z in [0,n]}$? The cdf of $P(M_{n} > frac{z}{n})=int_{ frac{z}{n}}^{infty}1dx$
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    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 21:34












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    @SABOY $M_n$ is the minimum, it is not uniform on $[0,1]$.
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    – angryavian
    Jan 14 at 21:37










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    I corrected my question/answer. Is it correct?
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    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 22:00










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    @SABOY "$Z sim exp(-z)$ where $z in [0, n]$" does not make sense for a number of reasons: is $exp(-z)$ a CDF? PDF? we usually don't use the $sim$ notation with a CDF or PDF anyway. Also, your answer should not depend on $n$ since you are taking the limit as $n to infty$. But you are on the right track.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Jan 14 at 22:05










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    No it's supposed to show $Z$ is exponentially distributed
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    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 22:26











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For each $n$, compute $P(nM_n > z)$.




$$P(nM_n > z) = (1 - frac{z}{n})^n cdot 1_{z in [0, n]}.$$




Then
$$P(Z > z) = lim_{z to infty} P(n M_n > z) = cdots$$
and hopefully you recognize the resulting distribution.






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    How did you get $P(nM_{n} > z)=(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}1_{z in [0,n]}$? The cdf of $P(M_{n} > frac{z}{n})=int_{ frac{z}{n}}^{infty}1dx$
    $endgroup$
    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 21:34












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    @SABOY $M_n$ is the minimum, it is not uniform on $[0,1]$.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Jan 14 at 21:37










  • $begingroup$
    I corrected my question/answer. Is it correct?
    $endgroup$
    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 22:00










  • $begingroup$
    @SABOY "$Z sim exp(-z)$ where $z in [0, n]$" does not make sense for a number of reasons: is $exp(-z)$ a CDF? PDF? we usually don't use the $sim$ notation with a CDF or PDF anyway. Also, your answer should not depend on $n$ since you are taking the limit as $n to infty$. But you are on the right track.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Jan 14 at 22:05










  • $begingroup$
    No it's supposed to show $Z$ is exponentially distributed
    $endgroup$
    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 22:26
















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$begingroup$

For each $n$, compute $P(nM_n > z)$.




$$P(nM_n > z) = (1 - frac{z}{n})^n cdot 1_{z in [0, n]}.$$




Then
$$P(Z > z) = lim_{z to infty} P(n M_n > z) = cdots$$
and hopefully you recognize the resulting distribution.






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$













  • $begingroup$
    How did you get $P(nM_{n} > z)=(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}1_{z in [0,n]}$? The cdf of $P(M_{n} > frac{z}{n})=int_{ frac{z}{n}}^{infty}1dx$
    $endgroup$
    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 21:34












  • $begingroup$
    @SABOY $M_n$ is the minimum, it is not uniform on $[0,1]$.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Jan 14 at 21:37










  • $begingroup$
    I corrected my question/answer. Is it correct?
    $endgroup$
    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 22:00










  • $begingroup$
    @SABOY "$Z sim exp(-z)$ where $z in [0, n]$" does not make sense for a number of reasons: is $exp(-z)$ a CDF? PDF? we usually don't use the $sim$ notation with a CDF or PDF anyway. Also, your answer should not depend on $n$ since you are taking the limit as $n to infty$. But you are on the right track.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Jan 14 at 22:05










  • $begingroup$
    No it's supposed to show $Z$ is exponentially distributed
    $endgroup$
    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 22:26














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$begingroup$

For each $n$, compute $P(nM_n > z)$.




$$P(nM_n > z) = (1 - frac{z}{n})^n cdot 1_{z in [0, n]}.$$




Then
$$P(Z > z) = lim_{z to infty} P(n M_n > z) = cdots$$
and hopefully you recognize the resulting distribution.






share|cite|improve this answer









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For each $n$, compute $P(nM_n > z)$.




$$P(nM_n > z) = (1 - frac{z}{n})^n cdot 1_{z in [0, n]}.$$




Then
$$P(Z > z) = lim_{z to infty} P(n M_n > z) = cdots$$
and hopefully you recognize the resulting distribution.







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answered Jan 14 at 21:01









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    How did you get $P(nM_{n} > z)=(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}1_{z in [0,n]}$? The cdf of $P(M_{n} > frac{z}{n})=int_{ frac{z}{n}}^{infty}1dx$
    $endgroup$
    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 21:34












  • $begingroup$
    @SABOY $M_n$ is the minimum, it is not uniform on $[0,1]$.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Jan 14 at 21:37










  • $begingroup$
    I corrected my question/answer. Is it correct?
    $endgroup$
    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 22:00










  • $begingroup$
    @SABOY "$Z sim exp(-z)$ where $z in [0, n]$" does not make sense for a number of reasons: is $exp(-z)$ a CDF? PDF? we usually don't use the $sim$ notation with a CDF or PDF anyway. Also, your answer should not depend on $n$ since you are taking the limit as $n to infty$. But you are on the right track.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Jan 14 at 22:05










  • $begingroup$
    No it's supposed to show $Z$ is exponentially distributed
    $endgroup$
    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 22:26


















  • $begingroup$
    How did you get $P(nM_{n} > z)=(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}1_{z in [0,n]}$? The cdf of $P(M_{n} > frac{z}{n})=int_{ frac{z}{n}}^{infty}1dx$
    $endgroup$
    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 21:34












  • $begingroup$
    @SABOY $M_n$ is the minimum, it is not uniform on $[0,1]$.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Jan 14 at 21:37










  • $begingroup$
    I corrected my question/answer. Is it correct?
    $endgroup$
    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 22:00










  • $begingroup$
    @SABOY "$Z sim exp(-z)$ where $z in [0, n]$" does not make sense for a number of reasons: is $exp(-z)$ a CDF? PDF? we usually don't use the $sim$ notation with a CDF or PDF anyway. Also, your answer should not depend on $n$ since you are taking the limit as $n to infty$. But you are on the right track.
    $endgroup$
    – angryavian
    Jan 14 at 22:05










  • $begingroup$
    No it's supposed to show $Z$ is exponentially distributed
    $endgroup$
    – SABOY
    Jan 14 at 22:26
















$begingroup$
How did you get $P(nM_{n} > z)=(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}1_{z in [0,n]}$? The cdf of $P(M_{n} > frac{z}{n})=int_{ frac{z}{n}}^{infty}1dx$
$endgroup$
– SABOY
Jan 14 at 21:34






$begingroup$
How did you get $P(nM_{n} > z)=(1-frac{z}{n})^{n}1_{z in [0,n]}$? The cdf of $P(M_{n} > frac{z}{n})=int_{ frac{z}{n}}^{infty}1dx$
$endgroup$
– SABOY
Jan 14 at 21:34














$begingroup$
@SABOY $M_n$ is the minimum, it is not uniform on $[0,1]$.
$endgroup$
– angryavian
Jan 14 at 21:37




$begingroup$
@SABOY $M_n$ is the minimum, it is not uniform on $[0,1]$.
$endgroup$
– angryavian
Jan 14 at 21:37












$begingroup$
I corrected my question/answer. Is it correct?
$endgroup$
– SABOY
Jan 14 at 22:00




$begingroup$
I corrected my question/answer. Is it correct?
$endgroup$
– SABOY
Jan 14 at 22:00












$begingroup$
@SABOY "$Z sim exp(-z)$ where $z in [0, n]$" does not make sense for a number of reasons: is $exp(-z)$ a CDF? PDF? we usually don't use the $sim$ notation with a CDF or PDF anyway. Also, your answer should not depend on $n$ since you are taking the limit as $n to infty$. But you are on the right track.
$endgroup$
– angryavian
Jan 14 at 22:05




$begingroup$
@SABOY "$Z sim exp(-z)$ where $z in [0, n]$" does not make sense for a number of reasons: is $exp(-z)$ a CDF? PDF? we usually don't use the $sim$ notation with a CDF or PDF anyway. Also, your answer should not depend on $n$ since you are taking the limit as $n to infty$. But you are on the right track.
$endgroup$
– angryavian
Jan 14 at 22:05












$begingroup$
No it's supposed to show $Z$ is exponentially distributed
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– SABOY
Jan 14 at 22:26




$begingroup$
No it's supposed to show $Z$ is exponentially distributed
$endgroup$
– SABOY
Jan 14 at 22:26


















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