BCS theory for neutral fermions
As I understand it, Cooper pairs form between two fermions and are the cause of superconductivity. I was told by a teacher that the formation of Cooper pairs and BCS theory requires both fermions to be charged. But I also understand that Cooper pairs can form between two neutrons in neutron stars and neutrons are neutral particles. I asked the teacher the same question and they told me that it was because of pairing between the quark constituents of the neutron.
However, I have not been able to find any article or text that refers to this. In reading about BCS theory I have also not found any discussion on the fermions needing to be charged. Could someone refer me to any such text? Or help me understand what I am missing. I am new to the subject and asking questions as a novice.
The context of the discussion was that the teacher was saying that neutron star superconductivity and superfluidity required QED to be described. And I could not understand how QED could be applied to neutrons.
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As I understand it, Cooper pairs form between two fermions and are the cause of superconductivity. I was told by a teacher that the formation of Cooper pairs and BCS theory requires both fermions to be charged. But I also understand that Cooper pairs can form between two neutrons in neutron stars and neutrons are neutral particles. I asked the teacher the same question and they told me that it was because of pairing between the quark constituents of the neutron.
However, I have not been able to find any article or text that refers to this. In reading about BCS theory I have also not found any discussion on the fermions needing to be charged. Could someone refer me to any such text? Or help me understand what I am missing. I am new to the subject and asking questions as a novice.
The context of the discussion was that the teacher was saying that neutron star superconductivity and superfluidity required QED to be described. And I could not understand how QED could be applied to neutrons.
superconductivity fermions neutron-stars superfluidity
asked Dec 29 '18 at 16:00
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As I understand it, Cooper pairs form between two fermions and are the cause of superconductivity. I was told by a teacher that the formation of Cooper pairs and BCS theory requires both fermions to be charged. But I also understand that Cooper pairs can form between two neutrons in neutron stars and neutrons are neutral particles. I asked the teacher the same question and they told me that it was because of pairing between the quark constituents of the neutron.
However, I have not been able to find any article or text that refers to this. In reading about BCS theory I have also not found any discussion on the fermions needing to be charged. Could someone refer me to any such text? Or help me understand what I am missing. I am new to the subject and asking questions as a novice.
The context of the discussion was that the teacher was saying that neutron star superconductivity and superfluidity required QED to be described. And I could not understand how QED could be applied to neutrons.
superconductivity fermions neutron-stars superfluidity
asked Dec 29 '18 at 16:00
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As I understand it, Cooper pairs form between two fermions and are the cause of superconductivity. I was told by a teacher that the formation of Cooper pairs and BCS theory requires both fermions to be charged. But I also understand that Cooper pairs can form between two neutrons in neutron stars and neutrons are neutral particles. I asked the teacher the same question and they told me that it was because of pairing between the quark constituents of the neutron.
However, I have not been able to find any article or text that refers to this. In reading about BCS theory I have also not found any discussion on the fermions needing to be charged. Could someone refer me to any such text? Or help me understand what I am missing. I am new to the subject and asking questions as a novice.
The context of the discussion was that the teacher was saying that neutron star superconductivity and superfluidity required QED to be described. And I could not understand how QED could be applied to neutrons.
superconductivity fermions neutron-stars superfluidity
superconductivity fermions neutron-stars superfluidity
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Related: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/11064/…
– Mitchell Porter
Dec 29 '18 at 19:46
Related: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/11064/…
– Mitchell Porter
Dec 29 '18 at 19:46
Related: physics.stackexchange.com/questions/11064/…
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Neutral $^3$He atoms also pair to form a BCS-like superfluid. There has to be some source of an attractive force to cause the pairing, and in this case attractive pairing force comes from correlated fluctuations of the atoms' nuclear magnetic moments. I suppose that you can say that there is some electric charge causing the magnetic moments. In neutron stars, though, the pairing presumabley comes from the strong-force interactions -- so pairing does not always require an electromagnetic charge.
answered Dec 29 '18 at 16:43
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Thank you very much. When you say that the pairing is presumably due to strong-force interaction, does this mean that we do not know for certain if the neutron-neutron pairing in neutron stars is due to the strong force or some other force (electromagnetic force between the quarks forming the neutron as the prof. said)? I have read that Bogoliubov extended BCS theory to nuclear matter. Does his theory involve strong force interactions? I have looked at descriptions of his work but do not have the background to be able to understand if it involved strong force interactions or not.
– sasaak
Dec 29 '18 at 17:37
@sasaak There has been much work since Bogoliubov and by now there are many different pairing schemes, and hence different types of superfluids, hypothesised for high-density nuclear matter (colour -flavour locking and so on). It's best to do a Google search for more up-to-date reviews. For neutrons below the quark matter transition the review arxiv.org/abs/1501.05675 might be a good starting point.
– mike stone
Dec 30 '18 at 16:02
@sasaak This talk also looks interesting: gravity.psu.edu/events/neutron_stars/talks/Alford_talk.pdf
– mike stone
Dec 30 '18 at 16:05
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Neutral $^3$He atoms also pair to form a BCS-like superfluid. There has to be some source of an attractive force to cause the pairing, and in this case attractive pairing force comes from correlated fluctuations of the atoms' nuclear magnetic moments. I suppose that you can say that there is some electric charge causing the magnetic moments. In neutron stars, though, the pairing presumabley comes from the strong-force interactions -- so pairing does not always require an electromagnetic charge.
answered Dec 29 '18 at 16:43
mike stonemike stone
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Thank you very much. When you say that the pairing is presumably due to strong-force interaction, does this mean that we do not know for certain if the neutron-neutron pairing in neutron stars is due to the strong force or some other force (electromagnetic force between the quarks forming the neutron as the prof. said)? I have read that Bogoliubov extended BCS theory to nuclear matter. Does his theory involve strong force interactions? I have looked at descriptions of his work but do not have the background to be able to understand if it involved strong force interactions or not.
– sasaak
Dec 29 '18 at 17:37
@sasaak There has been much work since Bogoliubov and by now there are many different pairing schemes, and hence different types of superfluids, hypothesised for high-density nuclear matter (colour -flavour locking and so on). It's best to do a Google search for more up-to-date reviews. For neutrons below the quark matter transition the review arxiv.org/abs/1501.05675 might be a good starting point.
– mike stone
Dec 30 '18 at 16:02
@sasaak This talk also looks interesting: gravity.psu.edu/events/neutron_stars/talks/Alford_talk.pdf
– mike stone
Dec 30 '18 at 16:05
add a comment |
Neutral $^3$He atoms also pair to form a BCS-like superfluid. There has to be some source of an attractive force to cause the pairing, and in this case attractive pairing force comes from correlated fluctuations of the atoms' nuclear magnetic moments. I suppose that you can say that there is some electric charge causing the magnetic moments. In neutron stars, though, the pairing presumabley comes from the strong-force interactions -- so pairing does not always require an electromagnetic charge.
answered Dec 29 '18 at 16:43
mike stonemike stone
6,4171222
Thank you very much. When you say that the pairing is presumably due to strong-force interaction, does this mean that we do not know for certain if the neutron-neutron pairing in neutron stars is due to the strong force or some other force (electromagnetic force between the quarks forming the neutron as the prof. said)? I have read that Bogoliubov extended BCS theory to nuclear matter. Does his theory involve strong force interactions? I have looked at descriptions of his work but do not have the background to be able to understand if it involved strong force interactions or not.
– sasaak
Dec 29 '18 at 17:37
@sasaak There has been much work since Bogoliubov and by now there are many different pairing schemes, and hence different types of superfluids, hypothesised for high-density nuclear matter (colour -flavour locking and so on). It's best to do a Google search for more up-to-date reviews. For neutrons below the quark matter transition the review arxiv.org/abs/1501.05675 might be a good starting point.
– mike stone
Dec 30 '18 at 16:02
@sasaak This talk also looks interesting: gravity.psu.edu/events/neutron_stars/talks/Alford_talk.pdf
– mike stone
Dec 30 '18 at 16:05
add a comment |
Neutral $^3$He atoms also pair to form a BCS-like superfluid. There has to be some source of an attractive force to cause the pairing, and in this case attractive pairing force comes from correlated fluctuations of the atoms' nuclear magnetic moments. I suppose that you can say that there is some electric charge causing the magnetic moments. In neutron stars, though, the pairing presumabley comes from the strong-force interactions -- so pairing does not always require an electromagnetic charge.
answered Dec 29 '18 at 16:43
mike stonemike stone
6,4171222
Neutral $^3$He atoms also pair to form a BCS-like superfluid. There has to be some source of an attractive force to cause the pairing, and in this case attractive pairing force comes from correlated fluctuations of the atoms' nuclear magnetic moments. I suppose that you can say that there is some electric charge causing the magnetic moments. In neutron stars, though, the pairing presumabley comes from the strong-force interactions -- so pairing does not always require an electromagnetic charge.
answered Dec 29 '18 at 16:43
mike stonemike stone
6,4171222
answered Dec 29 '18 at 16:43
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answered Dec 29 '18 at 16:43
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answered Dec 29 '18 at 16:43
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Thank you very much. When you say that the pairing is presumably due to strong-force interaction, does this mean that we do not know for certain if the neutron-neutron pairing in neutron stars is due to the strong force or some other force (electromagnetic force between the quarks forming the neutron as the prof. said)? I have read that Bogoliubov extended BCS theory to nuclear matter. Does his theory involve strong force interactions? I have looked at descriptions of his work but do not have the background to be able to understand if it involved strong force interactions or not.
– sasaak
Dec 29 '18 at 17:37
@sasaak There has been much work since Bogoliubov and by now there are many different pairing schemes, and hence different types of superfluids, hypothesised for high-density nuclear matter (colour -flavour locking and so on). It's best to do a Google search for more up-to-date reviews. For neutrons below the quark matter transition the review arxiv.org/abs/1501.05675 might be a good starting point.
– mike stone
Dec 30 '18 at 16:02
@sasaak This talk also looks interesting: gravity.psu.edu/events/neutron_stars/talks/Alford_talk.pdf
– mike stone
Dec 30 '18 at 16:05
add a comment |
Thank you very much. When you say that the pairing is presumably due to strong-force interaction, does this mean that we do not know for certain if the neutron-neutron pairing in neutron stars is due to the strong force or some other force (electromagnetic force between the quarks forming the neutron as the prof. said)? I have read that Bogoliubov extended BCS theory to nuclear matter. Does his theory involve strong force interactions? I have looked at descriptions of his work but do not have the background to be able to understand if it involved strong force interactions or not.
– sasaak
Dec 29 '18 at 17:37
@sasaak There has been much work since Bogoliubov and by now there are many different pairing schemes, and hence different types of superfluids, hypothesised for high-density nuclear matter (colour -flavour locking and so on). It's best to do a Google search for more up-to-date reviews. For neutrons below the quark matter transition the review arxiv.org/abs/1501.05675 might be a good starting point.
– mike stone
Dec 30 '18 at 16:02
@sasaak This talk also looks interesting: gravity.psu.edu/events/neutron_stars/talks/Alford_talk.pdf
– mike stone
Dec 30 '18 at 16:05
Thank you very much. When you say that the pairing is presumably due to strong-force interaction, does this mean that we do not know for certain if the neutron-neutron pairing in neutron stars is due to the strong force or some other force (electromagnetic force between the quarks forming the neutron as the prof. said)? I have read that Bogoliubov extended BCS theory to nuclear matter. Does his theory involve strong force interactions? I have looked at descriptions of his work but do not have the background to be able to understand if it involved strong force interactions or not.
– sasaak
Dec 29 '18 at 17:37
Thank you very much. When you say that the pairing is presumably due to strong-force interaction, does this mean that we do not know for certain if the neutron-neutron pairing in neutron stars is due to the strong force or some other force (electromagnetic force between the quarks forming the neutron as the prof. said)? I have read that Bogoliubov extended BCS theory to nuclear matter. Does his theory involve strong force interactions? I have looked at descriptions of his work but do not have the background to be able to understand if it involved strong force interactions or not.
– sasaak
Dec 29 '18 at 17:37
@sasaak There has been much work since Bogoliubov and by now there are many different pairing schemes, and hence different types of superfluids, hypothesised for high-density nuclear matter (colour -flavour locking and so on). It's best to do a Google search for more up-to-date reviews. For neutrons below the quark matter transition the review arxiv.org/abs/1501.05675 might be a good starting point.
– mike stone
Dec 30 '18 at 16:02
@sasaak There has been much work since Bogoliubov and by now there are many different pairing schemes, and hence different types of superfluids, hypothesised for high-density nuclear matter (colour -flavour locking and so on). It's best to do a Google search for more up-to-date reviews. For neutrons below the quark matter transition the review arxiv.org/abs/1501.05675 might be a good starting point.
– mike stone
Dec 30 '18 at 16:02
@sasaak This talk also looks interesting: gravity.psu.edu/events/neutron_stars/talks/Alford_talk.pdf
– mike stone
Dec 30 '18 at 16:05
@sasaak This talk also looks interesting: gravity.psu.edu/events/neutron_stars/talks/Alford_talk.pdf
– mike stone
Dec 30 '18 at 16:05
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