When does $sqrt{4x^3+4y^3+1}$ a natural number?












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If $x$ and $y$ is a natural number, how can we find $y$ in terms of $x$ so the $sqrt{4x^3+4y^3+1}$ is a natural number?






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    I want to know when does 4x^3 + 4y^3 +1 is perfect square
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For one family of solutions set $y=x^2$. Then



$z=sqrt{4x^3+4y^3+1}=sqrt{4x^3+4x^6+1}=sqrt{(2x^3+1)^2}=2x^3+1$



This gives:



$(x,y,z) = (1,1,3), space (2,4,17), space (3,9,55), dots$



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    $4x^3+4y^3=k^2-1=(k-1)(k+1)$



    Since LHS is even RHS is a product of two consecutive even numbers, let $k=2m+1$ we have:



    $4x^3+4y^3=2m(2m+2)=4m(m+1)$



    $x^3+y^3=m(m+1)$



    So whenever $x^3+y^3=m(m+1)$ and $k=2m+1$,then $4x^3+4y^3+1=k^2$



    For example:



    $m=1$ ⇒ $1(1+1)=2=1^3+1^3$⇒$k=2+1=3$



    $m=8$ ⇒ $8(8+1)=72=4^3+2^3$ ⇒ $k=2.8+1=17$



    $m=90$ ⇒ $90(90+1)=8190=19^3+11^3$ ⇒ $k=2.90+1=181$.






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      For one family of solutions set $y=x^2$. Then



      $z=sqrt{4x^3+4y^3+1}=sqrt{4x^3+4x^6+1}=sqrt{(2x^3+1)^2}=2x^3+1$



      This gives:



      $(x,y,z) = (1,1,3), space (2,4,17), space (3,9,55), dots$



      There may, of course, be other solutions.






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        For one family of solutions set $y=x^2$. Then



        $z=sqrt{4x^3+4y^3+1}=sqrt{4x^3+4x^6+1}=sqrt{(2x^3+1)^2}=2x^3+1$



        This gives:



        $(x,y,z) = (1,1,3), space (2,4,17), space (3,9,55), dots$



        There may, of course, be other solutions.






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          For one family of solutions set $y=x^2$. Then



          $z=sqrt{4x^3+4y^3+1}=sqrt{4x^3+4x^6+1}=sqrt{(2x^3+1)^2}=2x^3+1$



          This gives:



          $(x,y,z) = (1,1,3), space (2,4,17), space (3,9,55), dots$



          There may, of course, be other solutions.






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          For one family of solutions set $y=x^2$. Then



          $z=sqrt{4x^3+4y^3+1}=sqrt{4x^3+4x^6+1}=sqrt{(2x^3+1)^2}=2x^3+1$



          This gives:



          $(x,y,z) = (1,1,3), space (2,4,17), space (3,9,55), dots$



          There may, of course, be other solutions.







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              $4x^3+4y^3=k^2-1=(k-1)(k+1)$



              Since LHS is even RHS is a product of two consecutive even numbers, let $k=2m+1$ we have:



              $4x^3+4y^3=2m(2m+2)=4m(m+1)$



              $x^3+y^3=m(m+1)$



              So whenever $x^3+y^3=m(m+1)$ and $k=2m+1$,then $4x^3+4y^3+1=k^2$



              For example:



              $m=1$ ⇒ $1(1+1)=2=1^3+1^3$⇒$k=2+1=3$



              $m=8$ ⇒ $8(8+1)=72=4^3+2^3$ ⇒ $k=2.8+1=17$



              $m=90$ ⇒ $90(90+1)=8190=19^3+11^3$ ⇒ $k=2.90+1=181$.






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                $4x^3+4y^3=k^2-1=(k-1)(k+1)$



                Since LHS is even RHS is a product of two consecutive even numbers, let $k=2m+1$ we have:



                $4x^3+4y^3=2m(2m+2)=4m(m+1)$



                $x^3+y^3=m(m+1)$



                So whenever $x^3+y^3=m(m+1)$ and $k=2m+1$,then $4x^3+4y^3+1=k^2$



                For example:



                $m=1$ ⇒ $1(1+1)=2=1^3+1^3$⇒$k=2+1=3$



                $m=8$ ⇒ $8(8+1)=72=4^3+2^3$ ⇒ $k=2.8+1=17$



                $m=90$ ⇒ $90(90+1)=8190=19^3+11^3$ ⇒ $k=2.90+1=181$.






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                  $4x^3+4y^3=k^2-1=(k-1)(k+1)$



                  Since LHS is even RHS is a product of two consecutive even numbers, let $k=2m+1$ we have:



                  $4x^3+4y^3=2m(2m+2)=4m(m+1)$



                  $x^3+y^3=m(m+1)$



                  So whenever $x^3+y^3=m(m+1)$ and $k=2m+1$,then $4x^3+4y^3+1=k^2$



                  For example:



                  $m=1$ ⇒ $1(1+1)=2=1^3+1^3$⇒$k=2+1=3$



                  $m=8$ ⇒ $8(8+1)=72=4^3+2^3$ ⇒ $k=2.8+1=17$



                  $m=90$ ⇒ $90(90+1)=8190=19^3+11^3$ ⇒ $k=2.90+1=181$.






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                  $4x^3+4y^3=k^2-1=(k-1)(k+1)$



                  Since LHS is even RHS is a product of two consecutive even numbers, let $k=2m+1$ we have:



                  $4x^3+4y^3=2m(2m+2)=4m(m+1)$



                  $x^3+y^3=m(m+1)$



                  So whenever $x^3+y^3=m(m+1)$ and $k=2m+1$,then $4x^3+4y^3+1=k^2$



                  For example:



                  $m=1$ ⇒ $1(1+1)=2=1^3+1^3$⇒$k=2+1=3$



                  $m=8$ ⇒ $8(8+1)=72=4^3+2^3$ ⇒ $k=2.8+1=17$



                  $m=90$ ⇒ $90(90+1)=8190=19^3+11^3$ ⇒ $k=2.90+1=181$.







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