How to solve this recurrence relation using generating functions: $a_n = 10 a_{n-1}-25 a_{n-2} +...
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How can we solve the following recurrence relation using GF?
$a_n = 10 a_{n-1}-25 a_{n-2} + 5^n {n+2 choose 2}$ , for each $n>2, a_0 = 1, a_1 = 15$
I think that most of it is pretty straightforward. What really concerns me is this part
$5^n{n+2 choose 2}$
Problem further analyzed
After trying to create generating functions in the equation we end up in this
$sum_{n=2}^infty a_n x^n = 10 sum_{n=2}^infty {a_{n-1}} sum_{n=2}^infty a_{n-2} x^n + sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n$
Lets take this part:
$ sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n = sum_{n=2}^infty frac{(n+1)(n+2)}{2} 5^nx^n $
then?
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How can we solve the following recurrence relation using GF?
$a_n = 10 a_{n-1}-25 a_{n-2} + 5^n {n+2 choose 2}$ , for each $n>2, a_0 = 1, a_1 = 15$
I think that most of it is pretty straightforward. What really concerns me is this part
$5^n{n+2 choose 2}$
Problem further analyzed
After trying to create generating functions in the equation we end up in this
$sum_{n=2}^infty a_n x^n = 10 sum_{n=2}^infty {a_{n-1}} sum_{n=2}^infty a_{n-2} x^n + sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n$
Lets take this part:
$ sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n = sum_{n=2}^infty frac{(n+1)(n+2)}{2} 5^nx^n $
then?
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$5^nbinom{n+2}2=5^ndfrac{(n+1)(n+2)}2$
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– Shubham Johri
Feb 11 at 10:13
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It is multiplied. Edited the question so that it is clearer.
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– Dimitris Prasakis
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How can we solve the following recurrence relation using GF?
$a_n = 10 a_{n-1}-25 a_{n-2} + 5^n {n+2 choose 2}$ , for each $n>2, a_0 = 1, a_1 = 15$
I think that most of it is pretty straightforward. What really concerns me is this part
$5^n{n+2 choose 2}$
Problem further analyzed
After trying to create generating functions in the equation we end up in this
$sum_{n=2}^infty a_n x^n = 10 sum_{n=2}^infty {a_{n-1}} sum_{n=2}^infty a_{n-2} x^n + sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n$
Lets take this part:
$ sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n = sum_{n=2}^infty frac{(n+1)(n+2)}{2} 5^nx^n $
then?
sequences-and-series discrete-mathematics recurrence-relations generating-functions
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How can we solve the following recurrence relation using GF?
$a_n = 10 a_{n-1}-25 a_{n-2} + 5^n {n+2 choose 2}$ , for each $n>2, a_0 = 1, a_1 = 15$
I think that most of it is pretty straightforward. What really concerns me is this part
$5^n{n+2 choose 2}$
Problem further analyzed
After trying to create generating functions in the equation we end up in this
$sum_{n=2}^infty a_n x^n = 10 sum_{n=2}^infty {a_{n-1}} sum_{n=2}^infty a_{n-2} x^n + sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n$
Lets take this part:
$ sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n = sum_{n=2}^infty frac{(n+1)(n+2)}{2} 5^nx^n $
then?
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sequences-and-series discrete-mathematics recurrence-relations generating-functions
edited Feb 11 at 13:23
Dimitris Prasakis
asked Feb 11 at 10:03
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$5^nbinom{n+2}2=5^ndfrac{(n+1)(n+2)}2$
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– Shubham Johri
Feb 11 at 10:13
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It is multiplied. Edited the question so that it is clearer.
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:13
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$5^nbinom{n+2}2=5^ndfrac{(n+1)(n+2)}2$
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– Shubham Johri
Feb 11 at 10:13
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It is multiplied. Edited the question so that it is clearer.
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:13
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$5^nbinom{n+2}2=5^ndfrac{(n+1)(n+2)}2$
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– Shubham Johri
Feb 11 at 10:13
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$5^nbinom{n+2}2=5^ndfrac{(n+1)(n+2)}2$
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– Shubham Johri
Feb 11 at 10:13
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It is multiplied. Edited the question so that it is clearer.
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:13
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It is multiplied. Edited the question so that it is clearer.
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Hint for finding the GF.
Note that $(n+1)(n+2)x^n=frac{d^2}{dx^2}left(x^{n+2}right)$
and therefore
$$sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n = frac{1}{2cdot 5^2}frac{d^2}{dx^2}left(
sum_{n=2}^infty (5x)^{n+2}
right).$$
Then recall that $sum_{n=0}^{infty}z^n=frac{1}{1-z}$.
Moreover in your attempt it should be
$$sum_{n=2}^infty a_n x^n = 10 sum_{n=2}^infty {a_{n-1}}x^n-25 sum_{n=2}^infty a_{n-2} x^n + sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n.$$
that is
$$sum_{n=2}^infty a_n x^n = 10x sum_{n=1}^infty {a_{n}}x^n-25x^2 sum_{n=0}^infty a_{n} x^n + sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n.$$
Can you take it from here and find $f(x) =sum_{n=0}^infty a_n x^n$?
Alternative way for finding $a_n$ without the GF.
The given recurrence is a non-homogeneous linear recurrence relation with constant coefficients with characteristic equation
$$z^2-10z+25=(z-5)^2=0$$
and non-homogeneous term $5^n {n+2 choose 2}$ which is a second degree polynomial multiplied by a power of $5$, which is the root of multiplicity $2$ of the characteristic equation.
Hence the general term of the recurrence with $a_0 = 1$, $a_1 = 15$ has the form
$$a_n= 5^n(An^4+Bn^3+Cn+D)$$
where $A,B,C,D$ are real constant to be determined.
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Great answer, thank you!
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:38
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@GEdgar I would say an algebraic equation for $f(x) =sum_{n=0}^infty a_n x^n$.
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– Robert Z
Feb 11 at 10:38
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The indices can begin at $0.~ a_i=0$ for $i<0$.
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– Shubham Johri
Feb 11 at 10:42
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@ShubhamJohri the description of the problem says foreach $n geq 2$ given that $a_0 = 1, a_1 = 15$. Thus the indices start at 2 and then we got to degrade them to $0$, so that we use the definition of generating functions (where indices start from $0$)
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:45
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@DimitrisPrasakis I edited my answer with an alternative method.
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– Robert Z
Feb 11 at 11:02
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$sum_{n=0}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n = frac12sum_{n=0}^infty(n^2+3n+2)(5x)^n=frac12[sum_{n=0}^infty n^2y^n+3sum_{n=0}^infty ny^n+2sum_{n=0}^infty y^n]$
where $y=5x$. You will need the following series sums:
$(1)sum_{n=0}^infty n^2y^n=dfrac{y(1+y)}{(1-y)^3}\(2)sum_{n=0}^infty ny^n=dfrac y{(y-1)^2}$
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This is a working approach. @Robert Z provided a faster one though. In any case, thank you!
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Hint for finding the GF.
Note that $(n+1)(n+2)x^n=frac{d^2}{dx^2}left(x^{n+2}right)$
and therefore
$$sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n = frac{1}{2cdot 5^2}frac{d^2}{dx^2}left(
sum_{n=2}^infty (5x)^{n+2}
right).$$
Then recall that $sum_{n=0}^{infty}z^n=frac{1}{1-z}$.
Moreover in your attempt it should be
$$sum_{n=2}^infty a_n x^n = 10 sum_{n=2}^infty {a_{n-1}}x^n-25 sum_{n=2}^infty a_{n-2} x^n + sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n.$$
that is
$$sum_{n=2}^infty a_n x^n = 10x sum_{n=1}^infty {a_{n}}x^n-25x^2 sum_{n=0}^infty a_{n} x^n + sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n.$$
Can you take it from here and find $f(x) =sum_{n=0}^infty a_n x^n$?
Alternative way for finding $a_n$ without the GF.
The given recurrence is a non-homogeneous linear recurrence relation with constant coefficients with characteristic equation
$$z^2-10z+25=(z-5)^2=0$$
and non-homogeneous term $5^n {n+2 choose 2}$ which is a second degree polynomial multiplied by a power of $5$, which is the root of multiplicity $2$ of the characteristic equation.
Hence the general term of the recurrence with $a_0 = 1$, $a_1 = 15$ has the form
$$a_n= 5^n(An^4+Bn^3+Cn+D)$$
where $A,B,C,D$ are real constant to be determined.
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Great answer, thank you!
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:38
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@GEdgar I would say an algebraic equation for $f(x) =sum_{n=0}^infty a_n x^n$.
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– Robert Z
Feb 11 at 10:38
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The indices can begin at $0.~ a_i=0$ for $i<0$.
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– Shubham Johri
Feb 11 at 10:42
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@ShubhamJohri the description of the problem says foreach $n geq 2$ given that $a_0 = 1, a_1 = 15$. Thus the indices start at 2 and then we got to degrade them to $0$, so that we use the definition of generating functions (where indices start from $0$)
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:45
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@DimitrisPrasakis I edited my answer with an alternative method.
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– Robert Z
Feb 11 at 11:02
add a comment |
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Hint for finding the GF.
Note that $(n+1)(n+2)x^n=frac{d^2}{dx^2}left(x^{n+2}right)$
and therefore
$$sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n = frac{1}{2cdot 5^2}frac{d^2}{dx^2}left(
sum_{n=2}^infty (5x)^{n+2}
right).$$
Then recall that $sum_{n=0}^{infty}z^n=frac{1}{1-z}$.
Moreover in your attempt it should be
$$sum_{n=2}^infty a_n x^n = 10 sum_{n=2}^infty {a_{n-1}}x^n-25 sum_{n=2}^infty a_{n-2} x^n + sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n.$$
that is
$$sum_{n=2}^infty a_n x^n = 10x sum_{n=1}^infty {a_{n}}x^n-25x^2 sum_{n=0}^infty a_{n} x^n + sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n.$$
Can you take it from here and find $f(x) =sum_{n=0}^infty a_n x^n$?
Alternative way for finding $a_n$ without the GF.
The given recurrence is a non-homogeneous linear recurrence relation with constant coefficients with characteristic equation
$$z^2-10z+25=(z-5)^2=0$$
and non-homogeneous term $5^n {n+2 choose 2}$ which is a second degree polynomial multiplied by a power of $5$, which is the root of multiplicity $2$ of the characteristic equation.
Hence the general term of the recurrence with $a_0 = 1$, $a_1 = 15$ has the form
$$a_n= 5^n(An^4+Bn^3+Cn+D)$$
where $A,B,C,D$ are real constant to be determined.
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Great answer, thank you!
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:38
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@GEdgar I would say an algebraic equation for $f(x) =sum_{n=0}^infty a_n x^n$.
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– Robert Z
Feb 11 at 10:38
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The indices can begin at $0.~ a_i=0$ for $i<0$.
$endgroup$
– Shubham Johri
Feb 11 at 10:42
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@ShubhamJohri the description of the problem says foreach $n geq 2$ given that $a_0 = 1, a_1 = 15$. Thus the indices start at 2 and then we got to degrade them to $0$, so that we use the definition of generating functions (where indices start from $0$)
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:45
1
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@DimitrisPrasakis I edited my answer with an alternative method.
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– Robert Z
Feb 11 at 11:02
add a comment |
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Hint for finding the GF.
Note that $(n+1)(n+2)x^n=frac{d^2}{dx^2}left(x^{n+2}right)$
and therefore
$$sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n = frac{1}{2cdot 5^2}frac{d^2}{dx^2}left(
sum_{n=2}^infty (5x)^{n+2}
right).$$
Then recall that $sum_{n=0}^{infty}z^n=frac{1}{1-z}$.
Moreover in your attempt it should be
$$sum_{n=2}^infty a_n x^n = 10 sum_{n=2}^infty {a_{n-1}}x^n-25 sum_{n=2}^infty a_{n-2} x^n + sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n.$$
that is
$$sum_{n=2}^infty a_n x^n = 10x sum_{n=1}^infty {a_{n}}x^n-25x^2 sum_{n=0}^infty a_{n} x^n + sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n.$$
Can you take it from here and find $f(x) =sum_{n=0}^infty a_n x^n$?
Alternative way for finding $a_n$ without the GF.
The given recurrence is a non-homogeneous linear recurrence relation with constant coefficients with characteristic equation
$$z^2-10z+25=(z-5)^2=0$$
and non-homogeneous term $5^n {n+2 choose 2}$ which is a second degree polynomial multiplied by a power of $5$, which is the root of multiplicity $2$ of the characteristic equation.
Hence the general term of the recurrence with $a_0 = 1$, $a_1 = 15$ has the form
$$a_n= 5^n(An^4+Bn^3+Cn+D)$$
where $A,B,C,D$ are real constant to be determined.
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Hint for finding the GF.
Note that $(n+1)(n+2)x^n=frac{d^2}{dx^2}left(x^{n+2}right)$
and therefore
$$sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n = frac{1}{2cdot 5^2}frac{d^2}{dx^2}left(
sum_{n=2}^infty (5x)^{n+2}
right).$$
Then recall that $sum_{n=0}^{infty}z^n=frac{1}{1-z}$.
Moreover in your attempt it should be
$$sum_{n=2}^infty a_n x^n = 10 sum_{n=2}^infty {a_{n-1}}x^n-25 sum_{n=2}^infty a_{n-2} x^n + sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n.$$
that is
$$sum_{n=2}^infty a_n x^n = 10x sum_{n=1}^infty {a_{n}}x^n-25x^2 sum_{n=0}^infty a_{n} x^n + sum_{n=2}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n.$$
Can you take it from here and find $f(x) =sum_{n=0}^infty a_n x^n$?
Alternative way for finding $a_n$ without the GF.
The given recurrence is a non-homogeneous linear recurrence relation with constant coefficients with characteristic equation
$$z^2-10z+25=(z-5)^2=0$$
and non-homogeneous term $5^n {n+2 choose 2}$ which is a second degree polynomial multiplied by a power of $5$, which is the root of multiplicity $2$ of the characteristic equation.
Hence the general term of the recurrence with $a_0 = 1$, $a_1 = 15$ has the form
$$a_n= 5^n(An^4+Bn^3+Cn+D)$$
where $A,B,C,D$ are real constant to be determined.
edited Feb 11 at 11:02
answered Feb 11 at 10:29
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Great answer, thank you!
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:38
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@GEdgar I would say an algebraic equation for $f(x) =sum_{n=0}^infty a_n x^n$.
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– Robert Z
Feb 11 at 10:38
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The indices can begin at $0.~ a_i=0$ for $i<0$.
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– Shubham Johri
Feb 11 at 10:42
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@ShubhamJohri the description of the problem says foreach $n geq 2$ given that $a_0 = 1, a_1 = 15$. Thus the indices start at 2 and then we got to degrade them to $0$, so that we use the definition of generating functions (where indices start from $0$)
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:45
1
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@DimitrisPrasakis I edited my answer with an alternative method.
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– Robert Z
Feb 11 at 11:02
add a comment |
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Great answer, thank you!
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:38
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@GEdgar I would say an algebraic equation for $f(x) =sum_{n=0}^infty a_n x^n$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Feb 11 at 10:38
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The indices can begin at $0.~ a_i=0$ for $i<0$.
$endgroup$
– Shubham Johri
Feb 11 at 10:42
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@ShubhamJohri the description of the problem says foreach $n geq 2$ given that $a_0 = 1, a_1 = 15$. Thus the indices start at 2 and then we got to degrade them to $0$, so that we use the definition of generating functions (where indices start from $0$)
$endgroup$
– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:45
1
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@DimitrisPrasakis I edited my answer with an alternative method.
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– Robert Z
Feb 11 at 11:02
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Great answer, thank you!
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:38
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Great answer, thank you!
$endgroup$
– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:38
$begingroup$
@GEdgar I would say an algebraic equation for $f(x) =sum_{n=0}^infty a_n x^n$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Feb 11 at 10:38
$begingroup$
@GEdgar I would say an algebraic equation for $f(x) =sum_{n=0}^infty a_n x^n$.
$endgroup$
– Robert Z
Feb 11 at 10:38
$begingroup$
The indices can begin at $0.~ a_i=0$ for $i<0$.
$endgroup$
– Shubham Johri
Feb 11 at 10:42
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The indices can begin at $0.~ a_i=0$ for $i<0$.
$endgroup$
– Shubham Johri
Feb 11 at 10:42
$begingroup$
@ShubhamJohri the description of the problem says foreach $n geq 2$ given that $a_0 = 1, a_1 = 15$. Thus the indices start at 2 and then we got to degrade them to $0$, so that we use the definition of generating functions (where indices start from $0$)
$endgroup$
– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:45
$begingroup$
@ShubhamJohri the description of the problem says foreach $n geq 2$ given that $a_0 = 1, a_1 = 15$. Thus the indices start at 2 and then we got to degrade them to $0$, so that we use the definition of generating functions (where indices start from $0$)
$endgroup$
– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:45
1
1
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@DimitrisPrasakis I edited my answer with an alternative method.
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– Robert Z
Feb 11 at 11:02
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@DimitrisPrasakis I edited my answer with an alternative method.
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– Robert Z
Feb 11 at 11:02
add a comment |
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$sum_{n=0}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n = frac12sum_{n=0}^infty(n^2+3n+2)(5x)^n=frac12[sum_{n=0}^infty n^2y^n+3sum_{n=0}^infty ny^n+2sum_{n=0}^infty y^n]$
where $y=5x$. You will need the following series sums:
$(1)sum_{n=0}^infty n^2y^n=dfrac{y(1+y)}{(1-y)^3}\(2)sum_{n=0}^infty ny^n=dfrac y{(y-1)^2}$
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This is a working approach. @Robert Z provided a faster one though. In any case, thank you!
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:39
add a comment |
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$sum_{n=0}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n = frac12sum_{n=0}^infty(n^2+3n+2)(5x)^n=frac12[sum_{n=0}^infty n^2y^n+3sum_{n=0}^infty ny^n+2sum_{n=0}^infty y^n]$
where $y=5x$. You will need the following series sums:
$(1)sum_{n=0}^infty n^2y^n=dfrac{y(1+y)}{(1-y)^3}\(2)sum_{n=0}^infty ny^n=dfrac y{(y-1)^2}$
$endgroup$
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This is a working approach. @Robert Z provided a faster one though. In any case, thank you!
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:39
add a comment |
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$sum_{n=0}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n = frac12sum_{n=0}^infty(n^2+3n+2)(5x)^n=frac12[sum_{n=0}^infty n^2y^n+3sum_{n=0}^infty ny^n+2sum_{n=0}^infty y^n]$
where $y=5x$. You will need the following series sums:
$(1)sum_{n=0}^infty n^2y^n=dfrac{y(1+y)}{(1-y)^3}\(2)sum_{n=0}^infty ny^n=dfrac y{(y-1)^2}$
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$sum_{n=0}^infty {n+2 choose 2}5^nx^n = frac12sum_{n=0}^infty(n^2+3n+2)(5x)^n=frac12[sum_{n=0}^infty n^2y^n+3sum_{n=0}^infty ny^n+2sum_{n=0}^infty y^n]$
where $y=5x$. You will need the following series sums:
$(1)sum_{n=0}^infty n^2y^n=dfrac{y(1+y)}{(1-y)^3}\(2)sum_{n=0}^infty ny^n=dfrac y{(y-1)^2}$
answered Feb 11 at 10:33
Shubham JohriShubham Johri
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This is a working approach. @Robert Z provided a faster one though. In any case, thank you!
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– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:39
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This is a working approach. @Robert Z provided a faster one though. In any case, thank you!
$endgroup$
– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:39
$begingroup$
This is a working approach. @Robert Z provided a faster one though. In any case, thank you!
$endgroup$
– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:39
$begingroup$
This is a working approach. @Robert Z provided a faster one though. In any case, thank you!
$endgroup$
– Dimitris Prasakis
Feb 11 at 10:39
add a comment |
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$5^nbinom{n+2}2=5^ndfrac{(n+1)(n+2)}2$
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– Shubham Johri
Feb 11 at 10:13
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It is multiplied. Edited the question so that it is clearer.
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