What creature of CR 5 or lower has the highest Constitution saving throw bonus?
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What creature of CR 5 or lower has the highest Constitution saving throw bonus?
I am currently DMing a campaign and have slowly been introducing higher and higher Con save creatures as zombies, as a local necromancer tries finding the best.
Zombies' Undead Fortitude trait says:
If damage reduces the zombie to 0 hit points, it must make a Constitution saving throw with a DC of 5 + the damage taken, unless the damage is radiant or from a critical hit. On a success, the zombie drops to 1 hit point instead.
Players have been having lots of fun with Zombie bear jokes at the zombie that stood back up six times.
I tried looking myself but currently don't have a lot of time to search before the session this weekend due to my work schedule changing.
Requirements
- CR 5 or lower
- Can't be an elemental or something that is already undead
- Would prefer to avoid a fey due to already having done 2 zombie
redcaps and a zombie yeth hound - Any published 5e books are fair game. (If you want to do an honorable
mention from a previous edition, just state the edition so I can look
at it and transfer it over.)
dnd-5e optimization monster-design zombies
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What creature of CR 5 or lower has the highest Constitution saving throw bonus?
I am currently DMing a campaign and have slowly been introducing higher and higher Con save creatures as zombies, as a local necromancer tries finding the best.
Zombies' Undead Fortitude trait says:
If damage reduces the zombie to 0 hit points, it must make a Constitution saving throw with a DC of 5 + the damage taken, unless the damage is radiant or from a critical hit. On a success, the zombie drops to 1 hit point instead.
Players have been having lots of fun with Zombie bear jokes at the zombie that stood back up six times.
I tried looking myself but currently don't have a lot of time to search before the session this weekend due to my work schedule changing.
Requirements
- CR 5 or lower
- Can't be an elemental or something that is already undead
- Would prefer to avoid a fey due to already having done 2 zombie
redcaps and a zombie yeth hound - Any published 5e books are fair game. (If you want to do an honorable
mention from a previous edition, just state the edition so I can look
at it and transfer it over.)
dnd-5e optimization monster-design zombies
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just clarifying are you looking only for beasts or any living (non-extraplanar) creature ?
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– casualplayer
Jan 29 at 7:38
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Looking for any non elemental. If it ends up being fiend or demon that'll just be more story flavor. So far there has been a bear, 2 recaps , and a yeah hound. (Ill edit this in to question)
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– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 7:41
add a comment |
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What creature of CR 5 or lower has the highest Constitution saving throw bonus?
I am currently DMing a campaign and have slowly been introducing higher and higher Con save creatures as zombies, as a local necromancer tries finding the best.
Zombies' Undead Fortitude trait says:
If damage reduces the zombie to 0 hit points, it must make a Constitution saving throw with a DC of 5 + the damage taken, unless the damage is radiant or from a critical hit. On a success, the zombie drops to 1 hit point instead.
Players have been having lots of fun with Zombie bear jokes at the zombie that stood back up six times.
I tried looking myself but currently don't have a lot of time to search before the session this weekend due to my work schedule changing.
Requirements
- CR 5 or lower
- Can't be an elemental or something that is already undead
- Would prefer to avoid a fey due to already having done 2 zombie
redcaps and a zombie yeth hound - Any published 5e books are fair game. (If you want to do an honorable
mention from a previous edition, just state the edition so I can look
at it and transfer it over.)
dnd-5e optimization monster-design zombies
$endgroup$
What creature of CR 5 or lower has the highest Constitution saving throw bonus?
I am currently DMing a campaign and have slowly been introducing higher and higher Con save creatures as zombies, as a local necromancer tries finding the best.
Zombies' Undead Fortitude trait says:
If damage reduces the zombie to 0 hit points, it must make a Constitution saving throw with a DC of 5 + the damage taken, unless the damage is radiant or from a critical hit. On a success, the zombie drops to 1 hit point instead.
Players have been having lots of fun with Zombie bear jokes at the zombie that stood back up six times.
I tried looking myself but currently don't have a lot of time to search before the session this weekend due to my work schedule changing.
Requirements
- CR 5 or lower
- Can't be an elemental or something that is already undead
- Would prefer to avoid a fey due to already having done 2 zombie
redcaps and a zombie yeth hound - Any published 5e books are fair game. (If you want to do an honorable
mention from a previous edition, just state the edition so I can look
at it and transfer it over.)
dnd-5e optimization monster-design zombies
dnd-5e optimization monster-design zombies
edited Jan 29 at 8:09
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just clarifying are you looking only for beasts or any living (non-extraplanar) creature ?
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– casualplayer
Jan 29 at 7:38
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Looking for any non elemental. If it ends up being fiend or demon that'll just be more story flavor. So far there has been a bear, 2 recaps , and a yeah hound. (Ill edit this in to question)
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 7:41
add a comment |
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just clarifying are you looking only for beasts or any living (non-extraplanar) creature ?
$endgroup$
– casualplayer
Jan 29 at 7:38
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Looking for any non elemental. If it ends up being fiend or demon that'll just be more story flavor. So far there has been a bear, 2 recaps , and a yeah hound. (Ill edit this in to question)
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 7:41
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just clarifying are you looking only for beasts or any living (non-extraplanar) creature ?
$endgroup$
– casualplayer
Jan 29 at 7:38
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just clarifying are you looking only for beasts or any living (non-extraplanar) creature ?
$endgroup$
– casualplayer
Jan 29 at 7:38
$begingroup$
Looking for any non elemental. If it ends up being fiend or demon that'll just be more story flavor. So far there has been a bear, 2 recaps , and a yeah hound. (Ill edit this in to question)
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 7:41
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Looking for any non elemental. If it ends up being fiend or demon that'll just be more story flavor. So far there has been a bear, 2 recaps , and a yeah hound. (Ill edit this in to question)
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 7:41
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Barbed Devils and Otyughs (with a +7 mod to Con saves)
It's possible to use D&D Beyond to get a filtered monster list that answers this question. You can do this by selecting all monster types except fey, elemental, and undead, then filtering to CR 0-5 creatures, and filtering to monsters proficient in Con saves using the advanced filter.
Here's the final list, sorted from highest to lowest CR (since higher-CR creatures are likely to have higher modifiers). The top 4 in the list:
Barbed Devil (a total modifier of +7 to Con saves)
Barlgura (+6 to Con saves) - MM, p. 56
Brontosaurus (+6) - VGtM, p. 139
Cambion (+6) - MM, p. 36
There are a few others with a +6 or +5 mod, but I decided to skip ahead to another tied for the highest:
Otyugh (+7)
I'm not seeing any others with a +7 modifier or higher for Con saves.
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Zombie Brontosaurus .... that's a great visual
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– KorvinStarmast
Jan 29 at 13:18
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Ikr!! Haha thanks for the help and ill remember dnd beyond in future!!
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– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 15:37
add a comment |
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Just going over CR5 encounters (since they should have the most CON) here are a few that I found -
Banderhobb (from Volo's, p. 122) with 20 CON (+5)
Bulette with 21 CON (+5)
Giant Shark with 21 CON (+5)
Tanarukk (from Volo's, p. 186) (fiend) with 20 CON (+5)
Troll with 20 CON (+5)
Catoblepas (from Volo's, p. 129) with 21 CON (+5)
Only found one fiend with a high CON (+5) under CR5 which adds to your flavor
(and I dont think you can use a shark for your setting given your party has been fighting bears)
If I happen to have missed any high con non-elementals please feel free to edit them in
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Relevant meta. The site you've linked to for the non-SRD monsters hosts/shares non-SRD content, which goes against RPG.SE's policy against piracy. I'd suggest changing the links to point to D&D Beyond instead, and probably adding page numbers so it's accessible to those who don't own it digitally.
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– V2Blast
Jan 29 at 8:11
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@V2Blast Thank you for mentioning that, and thanks for the edit
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– casualplayer
Jan 29 at 8:12
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Thanks for help!! And can still use zombie shark because undead don't have to breath so it doesn't need water XD. Would prob only have 10 movement but still funny :3
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– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 15:40
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Barbed Devils and Otyughs (with a +7 mod to Con saves)
It's possible to use D&D Beyond to get a filtered monster list that answers this question. You can do this by selecting all monster types except fey, elemental, and undead, then filtering to CR 0-5 creatures, and filtering to monsters proficient in Con saves using the advanced filter.
Here's the final list, sorted from highest to lowest CR (since higher-CR creatures are likely to have higher modifiers). The top 4 in the list:
Barbed Devil (a total modifier of +7 to Con saves)
Barlgura (+6 to Con saves) - MM, p. 56
Brontosaurus (+6) - VGtM, p. 139
Cambion (+6) - MM, p. 36
There are a few others with a +6 or +5 mod, but I decided to skip ahead to another tied for the highest:
Otyugh (+7)
I'm not seeing any others with a +7 modifier or higher for Con saves.
$endgroup$
3
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Zombie Brontosaurus .... that's a great visual
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– KorvinStarmast
Jan 29 at 13:18
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Ikr!! Haha thanks for the help and ill remember dnd beyond in future!!
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 15:37
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Barbed Devils and Otyughs (with a +7 mod to Con saves)
It's possible to use D&D Beyond to get a filtered monster list that answers this question. You can do this by selecting all monster types except fey, elemental, and undead, then filtering to CR 0-5 creatures, and filtering to monsters proficient in Con saves using the advanced filter.
Here's the final list, sorted from highest to lowest CR (since higher-CR creatures are likely to have higher modifiers). The top 4 in the list:
Barbed Devil (a total modifier of +7 to Con saves)
Barlgura (+6 to Con saves) - MM, p. 56
Brontosaurus (+6) - VGtM, p. 139
Cambion (+6) - MM, p. 36
There are a few others with a +6 or +5 mod, but I decided to skip ahead to another tied for the highest:
Otyugh (+7)
I'm not seeing any others with a +7 modifier or higher for Con saves.
$endgroup$
3
$begingroup$
Zombie Brontosaurus .... that's a great visual
$endgroup$
– KorvinStarmast
Jan 29 at 13:18
$begingroup$
Ikr!! Haha thanks for the help and ill remember dnd beyond in future!!
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 15:37
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Barbed Devils and Otyughs (with a +7 mod to Con saves)
It's possible to use D&D Beyond to get a filtered monster list that answers this question. You can do this by selecting all monster types except fey, elemental, and undead, then filtering to CR 0-5 creatures, and filtering to monsters proficient in Con saves using the advanced filter.
Here's the final list, sorted from highest to lowest CR (since higher-CR creatures are likely to have higher modifiers). The top 4 in the list:
Barbed Devil (a total modifier of +7 to Con saves)
Barlgura (+6 to Con saves) - MM, p. 56
Brontosaurus (+6) - VGtM, p. 139
Cambion (+6) - MM, p. 36
There are a few others with a +6 or +5 mod, but I decided to skip ahead to another tied for the highest:
Otyugh (+7)
I'm not seeing any others with a +7 modifier or higher for Con saves.
$endgroup$
Barbed Devils and Otyughs (with a +7 mod to Con saves)
It's possible to use D&D Beyond to get a filtered monster list that answers this question. You can do this by selecting all monster types except fey, elemental, and undead, then filtering to CR 0-5 creatures, and filtering to monsters proficient in Con saves using the advanced filter.
Here's the final list, sorted from highest to lowest CR (since higher-CR creatures are likely to have higher modifiers). The top 4 in the list:
Barbed Devil (a total modifier of +7 to Con saves)
Barlgura (+6 to Con saves) - MM, p. 56
Brontosaurus (+6) - VGtM, p. 139
Cambion (+6) - MM, p. 36
There are a few others with a +6 or +5 mod, but I decided to skip ahead to another tied for the highest:
Otyugh (+7)
I'm not seeing any others with a +7 modifier or higher for Con saves.
answered Jan 29 at 8:27
V2BlastV2Blast
23.8k379150
23.8k379150
3
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Zombie Brontosaurus .... that's a great visual
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– KorvinStarmast
Jan 29 at 13:18
$begingroup$
Ikr!! Haha thanks for the help and ill remember dnd beyond in future!!
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 15:37
add a comment |
3
$begingroup$
Zombie Brontosaurus .... that's a great visual
$endgroup$
– KorvinStarmast
Jan 29 at 13:18
$begingroup$
Ikr!! Haha thanks for the help and ill remember dnd beyond in future!!
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 15:37
3
3
$begingroup$
Zombie Brontosaurus .... that's a great visual
$endgroup$
– KorvinStarmast
Jan 29 at 13:18
$begingroup$
Zombie Brontosaurus .... that's a great visual
$endgroup$
– KorvinStarmast
Jan 29 at 13:18
$begingroup$
Ikr!! Haha thanks for the help and ill remember dnd beyond in future!!
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 15:37
$begingroup$
Ikr!! Haha thanks for the help and ill remember dnd beyond in future!!
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 15:37
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Just going over CR5 encounters (since they should have the most CON) here are a few that I found -
Banderhobb (from Volo's, p. 122) with 20 CON (+5)
Bulette with 21 CON (+5)
Giant Shark with 21 CON (+5)
Tanarukk (from Volo's, p. 186) (fiend) with 20 CON (+5)
Troll with 20 CON (+5)
Catoblepas (from Volo's, p. 129) with 21 CON (+5)
Only found one fiend with a high CON (+5) under CR5 which adds to your flavor
(and I dont think you can use a shark for your setting given your party has been fighting bears)
If I happen to have missed any high con non-elementals please feel free to edit them in
$endgroup$
6
$begingroup$
Relevant meta. The site you've linked to for the non-SRD monsters hosts/shares non-SRD content, which goes against RPG.SE's policy against piracy. I'd suggest changing the links to point to D&D Beyond instead, and probably adding page numbers so it's accessible to those who don't own it digitally.
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– V2Blast
Jan 29 at 8:11
3
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@V2Blast Thank you for mentioning that, and thanks for the edit
$endgroup$
– casualplayer
Jan 29 at 8:12
1
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Thanks for help!! And can still use zombie shark because undead don't have to breath so it doesn't need water XD. Would prob only have 10 movement but still funny :3
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 15:40
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Just going over CR5 encounters (since they should have the most CON) here are a few that I found -
Banderhobb (from Volo's, p. 122) with 20 CON (+5)
Bulette with 21 CON (+5)
Giant Shark with 21 CON (+5)
Tanarukk (from Volo's, p. 186) (fiend) with 20 CON (+5)
Troll with 20 CON (+5)
Catoblepas (from Volo's, p. 129) with 21 CON (+5)
Only found one fiend with a high CON (+5) under CR5 which adds to your flavor
(and I dont think you can use a shark for your setting given your party has been fighting bears)
If I happen to have missed any high con non-elementals please feel free to edit them in
$endgroup$
6
$begingroup$
Relevant meta. The site you've linked to for the non-SRD monsters hosts/shares non-SRD content, which goes against RPG.SE's policy against piracy. I'd suggest changing the links to point to D&D Beyond instead, and probably adding page numbers so it's accessible to those who don't own it digitally.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Jan 29 at 8:11
3
$begingroup$
@V2Blast Thank you for mentioning that, and thanks for the edit
$endgroup$
– casualplayer
Jan 29 at 8:12
1
$begingroup$
Thanks for help!! And can still use zombie shark because undead don't have to breath so it doesn't need water XD. Would prob only have 10 movement but still funny :3
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 15:40
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Just going over CR5 encounters (since they should have the most CON) here are a few that I found -
Banderhobb (from Volo's, p. 122) with 20 CON (+5)
Bulette with 21 CON (+5)
Giant Shark with 21 CON (+5)
Tanarukk (from Volo's, p. 186) (fiend) with 20 CON (+5)
Troll with 20 CON (+5)
Catoblepas (from Volo's, p. 129) with 21 CON (+5)
Only found one fiend with a high CON (+5) under CR5 which adds to your flavor
(and I dont think you can use a shark for your setting given your party has been fighting bears)
If I happen to have missed any high con non-elementals please feel free to edit them in
$endgroup$
Just going over CR5 encounters (since they should have the most CON) here are a few that I found -
Banderhobb (from Volo's, p. 122) with 20 CON (+5)
Bulette with 21 CON (+5)
Giant Shark with 21 CON (+5)
Tanarukk (from Volo's, p. 186) (fiend) with 20 CON (+5)
Troll with 20 CON (+5)
Catoblepas (from Volo's, p. 129) with 21 CON (+5)
Only found one fiend with a high CON (+5) under CR5 which adds to your flavor
(and I dont think you can use a shark for your setting given your party has been fighting bears)
If I happen to have missed any high con non-elementals please feel free to edit them in
edited Jan 29 at 8:14
V2Blast
23.8k379150
23.8k379150
answered Jan 29 at 7:55
casualplayercasualplayer
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415412
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Relevant meta. The site you've linked to for the non-SRD monsters hosts/shares non-SRD content, which goes against RPG.SE's policy against piracy. I'd suggest changing the links to point to D&D Beyond instead, and probably adding page numbers so it's accessible to those who don't own it digitally.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Jan 29 at 8:11
3
$begingroup$
@V2Blast Thank you for mentioning that, and thanks for the edit
$endgroup$
– casualplayer
Jan 29 at 8:12
1
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Thanks for help!! And can still use zombie shark because undead don't have to breath so it doesn't need water XD. Would prob only have 10 movement but still funny :3
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 15:40
add a comment |
6
$begingroup$
Relevant meta. The site you've linked to for the non-SRD monsters hosts/shares non-SRD content, which goes against RPG.SE's policy against piracy. I'd suggest changing the links to point to D&D Beyond instead, and probably adding page numbers so it's accessible to those who don't own it digitally.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Jan 29 at 8:11
3
$begingroup$
@V2Blast Thank you for mentioning that, and thanks for the edit
$endgroup$
– casualplayer
Jan 29 at 8:12
1
$begingroup$
Thanks for help!! And can still use zombie shark because undead don't have to breath so it doesn't need water XD. Would prob only have 10 movement but still funny :3
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 15:40
6
6
$begingroup$
Relevant meta. The site you've linked to for the non-SRD monsters hosts/shares non-SRD content, which goes against RPG.SE's policy against piracy. I'd suggest changing the links to point to D&D Beyond instead, and probably adding page numbers so it's accessible to those who don't own it digitally.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Jan 29 at 8:11
$begingroup$
Relevant meta. The site you've linked to for the non-SRD monsters hosts/shares non-SRD content, which goes against RPG.SE's policy against piracy. I'd suggest changing the links to point to D&D Beyond instead, and probably adding page numbers so it's accessible to those who don't own it digitally.
$endgroup$
– V2Blast
Jan 29 at 8:11
3
3
$begingroup$
@V2Blast Thank you for mentioning that, and thanks for the edit
$endgroup$
– casualplayer
Jan 29 at 8:12
$begingroup$
@V2Blast Thank you for mentioning that, and thanks for the edit
$endgroup$
– casualplayer
Jan 29 at 8:12
1
1
$begingroup$
Thanks for help!! And can still use zombie shark because undead don't have to breath so it doesn't need water XD. Would prob only have 10 movement but still funny :3
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 15:40
$begingroup$
Thanks for help!! And can still use zombie shark because undead don't have to breath so it doesn't need water XD. Would prob only have 10 movement but still funny :3
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 15:40
add a comment |
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just clarifying are you looking only for beasts or any living (non-extraplanar) creature ?
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– casualplayer
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Looking for any non elemental. If it ends up being fiend or demon that'll just be more story flavor. So far there has been a bear, 2 recaps , and a yeah hound. (Ill edit this in to question)
$endgroup$
– Deceptecium
Jan 29 at 7:41