Torsion group and torsion subgroup
$begingroup$
I know the exact definition of torsion group.
But the definition of torsion "sub"group is confusing me.
- A subgroup which is torsion.
- A collcection of all elements in G whose order is finite.
Which of the two is correct definition of torsion subgroup? The difference between two is that 1. need not to contain "all" elements of finite order.
Thanks for helping me.
abstract-algebra
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I know the exact definition of torsion group.
But the definition of torsion "sub"group is confusing me.
- A subgroup which is torsion.
- A collcection of all elements in G whose order is finite.
Which of the two is correct definition of torsion subgroup? The difference between two is that 1. need not to contain "all" elements of finite order.
Thanks for helping me.
abstract-algebra
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I know the exact definition of torsion group.
But the definition of torsion "sub"group is confusing me.
- A subgroup which is torsion.
- A collcection of all elements in G whose order is finite.
Which of the two is correct definition of torsion subgroup? The difference between two is that 1. need not to contain "all" elements of finite order.
Thanks for helping me.
abstract-algebra
$endgroup$
I know the exact definition of torsion group.
But the definition of torsion "sub"group is confusing me.
- A subgroup which is torsion.
- A collcection of all elements in G whose order is finite.
Which of the two is correct definition of torsion subgroup? The difference between two is that 1. need not to contain "all" elements of finite order.
Thanks for helping me.
abstract-algebra
abstract-algebra
asked Jan 6 at 12:52
SophiaSophia
4817
4817
add a comment |
add a comment |
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
The point is, the set of all torsion elements need not be a subgroup. The possibly simplest example is provided by the infinite dihedral group $D$.
In fact if you realise $D$ as the following set of bijections over the integers, the group operation being compositon,
$$
{ x mapsto a x + b : a = pm 1, b in mathbb{Z} },
$$
you see that the torsion elements are precisely those with $a = - 1$, which have all period two. But the product of two distinct such elements is an element of infinite order.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});
function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});
}
});
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3063823%2ftorsion-group-and-torsion-subgroup%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
The point is, the set of all torsion elements need not be a subgroup. The possibly simplest example is provided by the infinite dihedral group $D$.
In fact if you realise $D$ as the following set of bijections over the integers, the group operation being compositon,
$$
{ x mapsto a x + b : a = pm 1, b in mathbb{Z} },
$$
you see that the torsion elements are precisely those with $a = - 1$, which have all period two. But the product of two distinct such elements is an element of infinite order.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The point is, the set of all torsion elements need not be a subgroup. The possibly simplest example is provided by the infinite dihedral group $D$.
In fact if you realise $D$ as the following set of bijections over the integers, the group operation being compositon,
$$
{ x mapsto a x + b : a = pm 1, b in mathbb{Z} },
$$
you see that the torsion elements are precisely those with $a = - 1$, which have all period two. But the product of two distinct such elements is an element of infinite order.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The point is, the set of all torsion elements need not be a subgroup. The possibly simplest example is provided by the infinite dihedral group $D$.
In fact if you realise $D$ as the following set of bijections over the integers, the group operation being compositon,
$$
{ x mapsto a x + b : a = pm 1, b in mathbb{Z} },
$$
you see that the torsion elements are precisely those with $a = - 1$, which have all period two. But the product of two distinct such elements is an element of infinite order.
$endgroup$
The point is, the set of all torsion elements need not be a subgroup. The possibly simplest example is provided by the infinite dihedral group $D$.
In fact if you realise $D$ as the following set of bijections over the integers, the group operation being compositon,
$$
{ x mapsto a x + b : a = pm 1, b in mathbb{Z} },
$$
you see that the torsion elements are precisely those with $a = - 1$, which have all period two. But the product of two distinct such elements is an element of infinite order.
answered Jan 6 at 13:42
Andreas CarantiAndreas Caranti
56.6k34395
56.6k34395
add a comment |
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3063823%2ftorsion-group-and-torsion-subgroup%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function () {
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
});
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown