Why radius of convergence of a power series can only be real












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I know by definition that the radius of convergence is
$R:=sup{|z|inmathbb{R}colonsum_{n=0}^{infty} a_n z^n text{ converges}}$



I don't understand why



$R:=sup{zinmathbb{C}colonsum_{n=0}^{infty} a_n z^n text{ converges}}$
it is not correct since $zinmathbb{C}$






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    Because the modulus of a complex number is a non-negative real number.
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    The supremum of an arbitrary set of complex numbers is not defined. To talk about suprema, you need an ordering.
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    I have to say I think the people voting to close this for lack of context are being deceived by its brevity. I think the first sentence gives sufficient context to understand the motivation for this question, and the confusion on part of the asker.
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I know by definition that the radius of convergence is
$R:=sup{|z|inmathbb{R}colonsum_{n=0}^{infty} a_n z^n text{ converges}}$



I don't understand why



$R:=sup{zinmathbb{C}colonsum_{n=0}^{infty} a_n z^n text{ converges}}$
it is not correct since $zinmathbb{C}$






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    Because the modulus of a complex number is a non-negative real number.
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    – Bernard
    Jan 6 at 13:25






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    The supremum of an arbitrary set of complex numbers is not defined. To talk about suprema, you need an ordering.
    $endgroup$
    – Andrés E. Caicedo
    Jan 6 at 13:34










  • $begingroup$
    I have to say I think the people voting to close this for lack of context are being deceived by its brevity. I think the first sentence gives sufficient context to understand the motivation for this question, and the confusion on part of the asker.
    $endgroup$
    – jgon
    Jan 10 at 1:34














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I know by definition that the radius of convergence is
$R:=sup{|z|inmathbb{R}colonsum_{n=0}^{infty} a_n z^n text{ converges}}$



I don't understand why



$R:=sup{zinmathbb{C}colonsum_{n=0}^{infty} a_n z^n text{ converges}}$
it is not correct since $zinmathbb{C}$






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I know by definition that the radius of convergence is
$R:=sup{|z|inmathbb{R}colonsum_{n=0}^{infty} a_n z^n text{ converges}}$



I don't understand why



$R:=sup{zinmathbb{C}colonsum_{n=0}^{infty} a_n z^n text{ converges}}$
it is not correct since $zinmathbb{C}$






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    Because the modulus of a complex number is a non-negative real number.
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    – Bernard
    Jan 6 at 13:25






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    The supremum of an arbitrary set of complex numbers is not defined. To talk about suprema, you need an ordering.
    $endgroup$
    – Andrés E. Caicedo
    Jan 6 at 13:34










  • $begingroup$
    I have to say I think the people voting to close this for lack of context are being deceived by its brevity. I think the first sentence gives sufficient context to understand the motivation for this question, and the confusion on part of the asker.
    $endgroup$
    – jgon
    Jan 10 at 1:34














  • 6




    $begingroup$
    Because the modulus of a complex number is a non-negative real number.
    $endgroup$
    – Bernard
    Jan 6 at 13:25






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    The supremum of an arbitrary set of complex numbers is not defined. To talk about suprema, you need an ordering.
    $endgroup$
    – Andrés E. Caicedo
    Jan 6 at 13:34










  • $begingroup$
    I have to say I think the people voting to close this for lack of context are being deceived by its brevity. I think the first sentence gives sufficient context to understand the motivation for this question, and the confusion on part of the asker.
    $endgroup$
    – jgon
    Jan 10 at 1:34








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Because the modulus of a complex number is a non-negative real number.
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– Bernard
Jan 6 at 13:25




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Because the modulus of a complex number is a non-negative real number.
$endgroup$
– Bernard
Jan 6 at 13:25




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$begingroup$
The supremum of an arbitrary set of complex numbers is not defined. To talk about suprema, you need an ordering.
$endgroup$
– Andrés E. Caicedo
Jan 6 at 13:34




$begingroup$
The supremum of an arbitrary set of complex numbers is not defined. To talk about suprema, you need an ordering.
$endgroup$
– Andrés E. Caicedo
Jan 6 at 13:34












$begingroup$
I have to say I think the people voting to close this for lack of context are being deceived by its brevity. I think the first sentence gives sufficient context to understand the motivation for this question, and the confusion on part of the asker.
$endgroup$
– jgon
Jan 10 at 1:34




$begingroup$
I have to say I think the people voting to close this for lack of context are being deceived by its brevity. I think the first sentence gives sufficient context to understand the motivation for this question, and the confusion on part of the asker.
$endgroup$
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Because the set$$left{zinmathbb{C},middle|,sum_{n=0}^infty a_nz^ntext{ converges}right}tag1$$either is ${0}$ or it contains complex non-real numbers. In the later case, since there is no order relation in $mathbb C$, it makes no sense to talk about the supremum of $(1)$.






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    The supremum of a set $A subset B$ is defined in terms the ordering of the elements of $B$: for two elements $xin B$ and $yin B$ we need to be able to say whether $xleq y$.



    For real numbers, $leq$ is defined, and if $Asubset mathbb R$ then $A$ has a supremum in $mathbb R$.



    For the complex numbers, no such ordering exists and $x leq y$ has no meaning, so the supremum of a set of complex numbers has no meaning either.



    The clue, though, is in the word radius. This is a distance. $|z|$ is the distance of $z$ from the origin. In your example, $R$ is defined in terms of that—and convergence will in fact happen inside an actual circle of radiius $R$ on the complex plane.






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      Because the set$$left{zinmathbb{C},middle|,sum_{n=0}^infty a_nz^ntext{ converges}right}tag1$$either is ${0}$ or it contains complex non-real numbers. In the later case, since there is no order relation in $mathbb C$, it makes no sense to talk about the supremum of $(1)$.






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        Because the set$$left{zinmathbb{C},middle|,sum_{n=0}^infty a_nz^ntext{ converges}right}tag1$$either is ${0}$ or it contains complex non-real numbers. In the later case, since there is no order relation in $mathbb C$, it makes no sense to talk about the supremum of $(1)$.






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          Because the set$$left{zinmathbb{C},middle|,sum_{n=0}^infty a_nz^ntext{ converges}right}tag1$$either is ${0}$ or it contains complex non-real numbers. In the later case, since there is no order relation in $mathbb C$, it makes no sense to talk about the supremum of $(1)$.






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          Because the set$$left{zinmathbb{C},middle|,sum_{n=0}^infty a_nz^ntext{ converges}right}tag1$$either is ${0}$ or it contains complex non-real numbers. In the later case, since there is no order relation in $mathbb C$, it makes no sense to talk about the supremum of $(1)$.







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              The supremum of a set $A subset B$ is defined in terms the ordering of the elements of $B$: for two elements $xin B$ and $yin B$ we need to be able to say whether $xleq y$.



              For real numbers, $leq$ is defined, and if $Asubset mathbb R$ then $A$ has a supremum in $mathbb R$.



              For the complex numbers, no such ordering exists and $x leq y$ has no meaning, so the supremum of a set of complex numbers has no meaning either.



              The clue, though, is in the word radius. This is a distance. $|z|$ is the distance of $z$ from the origin. In your example, $R$ is defined in terms of that—and convergence will in fact happen inside an actual circle of radiius $R$ on the complex plane.






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                The supremum of a set $A subset B$ is defined in terms the ordering of the elements of $B$: for two elements $xin B$ and $yin B$ we need to be able to say whether $xleq y$.



                For real numbers, $leq$ is defined, and if $Asubset mathbb R$ then $A$ has a supremum in $mathbb R$.



                For the complex numbers, no such ordering exists and $x leq y$ has no meaning, so the supremum of a set of complex numbers has no meaning either.



                The clue, though, is in the word radius. This is a distance. $|z|$ is the distance of $z$ from the origin. In your example, $R$ is defined in terms of that—and convergence will in fact happen inside an actual circle of radiius $R$ on the complex plane.






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                  The supremum of a set $A subset B$ is defined in terms the ordering of the elements of $B$: for two elements $xin B$ and $yin B$ we need to be able to say whether $xleq y$.



                  For real numbers, $leq$ is defined, and if $Asubset mathbb R$ then $A$ has a supremum in $mathbb R$.



                  For the complex numbers, no such ordering exists and $x leq y$ has no meaning, so the supremum of a set of complex numbers has no meaning either.



                  The clue, though, is in the word radius. This is a distance. $|z|$ is the distance of $z$ from the origin. In your example, $R$ is defined in terms of that—and convergence will in fact happen inside an actual circle of radiius $R$ on the complex plane.






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                  The supremum of a set $A subset B$ is defined in terms the ordering of the elements of $B$: for two elements $xin B$ and $yin B$ we need to be able to say whether $xleq y$.



                  For real numbers, $leq$ is defined, and if $Asubset mathbb R$ then $A$ has a supremum in $mathbb R$.



                  For the complex numbers, no such ordering exists and $x leq y$ has no meaning, so the supremum of a set of complex numbers has no meaning either.



                  The clue, though, is in the word radius. This is a distance. $|z|$ is the distance of $z$ from the origin. In your example, $R$ is defined in terms of that—and convergence will in fact happen inside an actual circle of radiius $R$ on the complex plane.







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