show that E(Y ) = rE(X_1)
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For $Y= X_1 + X_2 + ... + X_r$, with the X's being independent and identically distributed random variables, I'm asked to prove that $E(Y) = rE(X_1)$
All I could do is show $(M_X(t))^r = (E( e^{tx}))^r = E(e^{tx_1}) E(e^{tx_2}) ... E(e^{tx_r}) = E( e^{tx_1} e^{tx_2} ... e^{tx_r}) = E(e^{ty}) = M_Y(t) $
Can anyone help/guide me? Thanks
probability statistics stochastic-processes
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For $Y= X_1 + X_2 + ... + X_r$, with the X's being independent and identically distributed random variables, I'm asked to prove that $E(Y) = rE(X_1)$
All I could do is show $(M_X(t))^r = (E( e^{tx}))^r = E(e^{tx_1}) E(e^{tx_2}) ... E(e^{tx_r}) = E( e^{tx_1} e^{tx_2} ... e^{tx_r}) = E(e^{ty}) = M_Y(t) $
Can anyone help/guide me? Thanks
probability statistics stochastic-processes
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This is something similar to Wald's equation if I'm not wrong. Wiki has the proof
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– Makina
Jan 16 at 0:23
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@makina $r$ isn't random.
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– user608030
Jan 16 at 0:27
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hence the "similar"
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– Makina
Jan 16 at 0:41
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@bluemuse Before studying Moment Generating Functions you must have learned that expectation is linear. This question hardly requires a proof.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 16 at 6:10
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For $Y= X_1 + X_2 + ... + X_r$, with the X's being independent and identically distributed random variables, I'm asked to prove that $E(Y) = rE(X_1)$
All I could do is show $(M_X(t))^r = (E( e^{tx}))^r = E(e^{tx_1}) E(e^{tx_2}) ... E(e^{tx_r}) = E( e^{tx_1} e^{tx_2} ... e^{tx_r}) = E(e^{ty}) = M_Y(t) $
Can anyone help/guide me? Thanks
probability statistics stochastic-processes
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For $Y= X_1 + X_2 + ... + X_r$, with the X's being independent and identically distributed random variables, I'm asked to prove that $E(Y) = rE(X_1)$
All I could do is show $(M_X(t))^r = (E( e^{tx}))^r = E(e^{tx_1}) E(e^{tx_2}) ... E(e^{tx_r}) = E( e^{tx_1} e^{tx_2} ... e^{tx_r}) = E(e^{ty}) = M_Y(t) $
Can anyone help/guide me? Thanks
probability statistics stochastic-processes
probability statistics stochastic-processes
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This is something similar to Wald's equation if I'm not wrong. Wiki has the proof
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– Makina
Jan 16 at 0:23
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@makina $r$ isn't random.
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– user608030
Jan 16 at 0:27
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hence the "similar"
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– Makina
Jan 16 at 0:41
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@bluemuse Before studying Moment Generating Functions you must have learned that expectation is linear. This question hardly requires a proof.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 16 at 6:10
add a comment |
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This is something similar to Wald's equation if I'm not wrong. Wiki has the proof
$endgroup$
– Makina
Jan 16 at 0:23
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@makina $r$ isn't random.
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– user608030
Jan 16 at 0:27
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hence the "similar"
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– Makina
Jan 16 at 0:41
$begingroup$
@bluemuse Before studying Moment Generating Functions you must have learned that expectation is linear. This question hardly requires a proof.
$endgroup$
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 16 at 6:10
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This is something similar to Wald's equation if I'm not wrong. Wiki has the proof
$endgroup$
– Makina
Jan 16 at 0:23
$begingroup$
This is something similar to Wald's equation if I'm not wrong. Wiki has the proof
$endgroup$
– Makina
Jan 16 at 0:23
$begingroup$
@makina $r$ isn't random.
$endgroup$
– user608030
Jan 16 at 0:27
$begingroup$
@makina $r$ isn't random.
$endgroup$
– user608030
Jan 16 at 0:27
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hence the "similar"
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– Makina
Jan 16 at 0:41
$begingroup$
hence the "similar"
$endgroup$
– Makina
Jan 16 at 0:41
$begingroup$
@bluemuse Before studying Moment Generating Functions you must have learned that expectation is linear. This question hardly requires a proof.
$endgroup$
– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 16 at 6:10
$begingroup$
@bluemuse Before studying Moment Generating Functions you must have learned that expectation is linear. This question hardly requires a proof.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 16 at 6:10
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If you are going to use moment generating functions (not all distributions have them, but assuming $X$ does) then you can say
$$M'_Y(t) = frac{d}{dt} (M_X(t))^r = r (M_X(t))^{r-1} M'_X(t)$$
and since $M_X(0)=1$ and $M'_X(0)= E[X]$ you can say $$E[Y] = M'_Y(0) = r M'_X(0)=rE[X]$$
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Thank you, we got this homework after studying moment generating functions so I figured I had to use them. I forgot about $ M'_X(0) = E[X]$ ! Thanks
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– bluemuse
Jan 16 at 0:52
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they are iid. Isn't sufficient to say that because they are iid then $E[X_i]=E[X_1]$ hence E[Y]=E[X_1]+E[X_2]+...+E[X_r] = E[X_1]+E[X_1]+...+E[X_r]=rE[X_1]?
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– k.dkhk
Jan 18 at 13:08
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@k.dkhk - what you say is true in general, independent or not. Can you prove it? With independent random variables a simple alternative approach comes from characteristic functions or (if they exist) moment generating functions.
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If you are going to use moment generating functions (not all distributions have them, but assuming $X$ does) then you can say
$$M'_Y(t) = frac{d}{dt} (M_X(t))^r = r (M_X(t))^{r-1} M'_X(t)$$
and since $M_X(0)=1$ and $M'_X(0)= E[X]$ you can say $$E[Y] = M'_Y(0) = r M'_X(0)=rE[X]$$
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Thank you, we got this homework after studying moment generating functions so I figured I had to use them. I forgot about $ M'_X(0) = E[X]$ ! Thanks
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– bluemuse
Jan 16 at 0:52
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they are iid. Isn't sufficient to say that because they are iid then $E[X_i]=E[X_1]$ hence E[Y]=E[X_1]+E[X_2]+...+E[X_r] = E[X_1]+E[X_1]+...+E[X_r]=rE[X_1]?
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– k.dkhk
Jan 18 at 13:08
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@k.dkhk - what you say is true in general, independent or not. Can you prove it? With independent random variables a simple alternative approach comes from characteristic functions or (if they exist) moment generating functions.
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– Henry
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If you are going to use moment generating functions (not all distributions have them, but assuming $X$ does) then you can say
$$M'_Y(t) = frac{d}{dt} (M_X(t))^r = r (M_X(t))^{r-1} M'_X(t)$$
and since $M_X(0)=1$ and $M'_X(0)= E[X]$ you can say $$E[Y] = M'_Y(0) = r M'_X(0)=rE[X]$$
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Thank you, we got this homework after studying moment generating functions so I figured I had to use them. I forgot about $ M'_X(0) = E[X]$ ! Thanks
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– bluemuse
Jan 16 at 0:52
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they are iid. Isn't sufficient to say that because they are iid then $E[X_i]=E[X_1]$ hence E[Y]=E[X_1]+E[X_2]+...+E[X_r] = E[X_1]+E[X_1]+...+E[X_r]=rE[X_1]?
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– k.dkhk
Jan 18 at 13:08
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@k.dkhk - what you say is true in general, independent or not. Can you prove it? With independent random variables a simple alternative approach comes from characteristic functions or (if they exist) moment generating functions.
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– Henry
Jan 18 at 16:09
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If you are going to use moment generating functions (not all distributions have them, but assuming $X$ does) then you can say
$$M'_Y(t) = frac{d}{dt} (M_X(t))^r = r (M_X(t))^{r-1} M'_X(t)$$
and since $M_X(0)=1$ and $M'_X(0)= E[X]$ you can say $$E[Y] = M'_Y(0) = r M'_X(0)=rE[X]$$
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If you are going to use moment generating functions (not all distributions have them, but assuming $X$ does) then you can say
$$M'_Y(t) = frac{d}{dt} (M_X(t))^r = r (M_X(t))^{r-1} M'_X(t)$$
and since $M_X(0)=1$ and $M'_X(0)= E[X]$ you can say $$E[Y] = M'_Y(0) = r M'_X(0)=rE[X]$$
answered Jan 16 at 0:47
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Thank you, we got this homework after studying moment generating functions so I figured I had to use them. I forgot about $ M'_X(0) = E[X]$ ! Thanks
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– bluemuse
Jan 16 at 0:52
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they are iid. Isn't sufficient to say that because they are iid then $E[X_i]=E[X_1]$ hence E[Y]=E[X_1]+E[X_2]+...+E[X_r] = E[X_1]+E[X_1]+...+E[X_r]=rE[X_1]?
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– k.dkhk
Jan 18 at 13:08
$begingroup$
@k.dkhk - what you say is true in general, independent or not. Can you prove it? With independent random variables a simple alternative approach comes from characteristic functions or (if they exist) moment generating functions.
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– Henry
Jan 18 at 16:09
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Thank you, we got this homework after studying moment generating functions so I figured I had to use them. I forgot about $ M'_X(0) = E[X]$ ! Thanks
$endgroup$
– bluemuse
Jan 16 at 0:52
$begingroup$
they are iid. Isn't sufficient to say that because they are iid then $E[X_i]=E[X_1]$ hence E[Y]=E[X_1]+E[X_2]+...+E[X_r] = E[X_1]+E[X_1]+...+E[X_r]=rE[X_1]?
$endgroup$
– k.dkhk
Jan 18 at 13:08
$begingroup$
@k.dkhk - what you say is true in general, independent or not. Can you prove it? With independent random variables a simple alternative approach comes from characteristic functions or (if they exist) moment generating functions.
$endgroup$
– Henry
Jan 18 at 16:09
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Thank you, we got this homework after studying moment generating functions so I figured I had to use them. I forgot about $ M'_X(0) = E[X]$ ! Thanks
$endgroup$
– bluemuse
Jan 16 at 0:52
$begingroup$
Thank you, we got this homework after studying moment generating functions so I figured I had to use them. I forgot about $ M'_X(0) = E[X]$ ! Thanks
$endgroup$
– bluemuse
Jan 16 at 0:52
$begingroup$
they are iid. Isn't sufficient to say that because they are iid then $E[X_i]=E[X_1]$ hence E[Y]=E[X_1]+E[X_2]+...+E[X_r] = E[X_1]+E[X_1]+...+E[X_r]=rE[X_1]?
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– k.dkhk
Jan 18 at 13:08
$begingroup$
they are iid. Isn't sufficient to say that because they are iid then $E[X_i]=E[X_1]$ hence E[Y]=E[X_1]+E[X_2]+...+E[X_r] = E[X_1]+E[X_1]+...+E[X_r]=rE[X_1]?
$endgroup$
– k.dkhk
Jan 18 at 13:08
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@k.dkhk - what you say is true in general, independent or not. Can you prove it? With independent random variables a simple alternative approach comes from characteristic functions or (if they exist) moment generating functions.
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– Henry
Jan 18 at 16:09
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@k.dkhk - what you say is true in general, independent or not. Can you prove it? With independent random variables a simple alternative approach comes from characteristic functions or (if they exist) moment generating functions.
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– Henry
Jan 18 at 16:09
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This is something similar to Wald's equation if I'm not wrong. Wiki has the proof
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– Makina
Jan 16 at 0:23
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@makina $r$ isn't random.
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– user608030
Jan 16 at 0:27
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hence the "similar"
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– Makina
Jan 16 at 0:41
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@bluemuse Before studying Moment Generating Functions you must have learned that expectation is linear. This question hardly requires a proof.
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– Kavi Rama Murthy
Jan 16 at 6:10