Why must an automorphism of an extension of $mathbb{Q}$ send 1 to a rational number?
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This is from a video I was watching that claimed this:
If $phi$ is an automorphism of an extension field $F$ of $mathbb{Q}$, then $phi(q)=q$ for all $qinmathbb{Q}$.
The proof started by assuming that $phi(1)=q$ for some $qinmathbb{Q}$. I understand the stuff that followed. But the explanation never said why we don't have to consider the case in which $phi$ sends $1$ to something in $Fsetminusmathbb{Q}$.
How come we know an automorphism of an extension of $mathbb{Q}$ must send $1$ to something in $mathbb{Q}$ to begin with?
(Thanks in advance.)
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This is from a video I was watching that claimed this:
If $phi$ is an automorphism of an extension field $F$ of $mathbb{Q}$, then $phi(q)=q$ for all $qinmathbb{Q}$.
The proof started by assuming that $phi(1)=q$ for some $qinmathbb{Q}$. I understand the stuff that followed. But the explanation never said why we don't have to consider the case in which $phi$ sends $1$ to something in $Fsetminusmathbb{Q}$.
How come we know an automorphism of an extension of $mathbb{Q}$ must send $1$ to something in $mathbb{Q}$ to begin with?
(Thanks in advance.)
field-theory extension-field
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Doesn't a field automorphism have to map the multiplicative identity to the multiplicative identity?
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– J. W. Tanner
Jan 10 at 23:54
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$phi(1) = phi(1/1) = phi(1)/ phi(1)=1$
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Jan 10 at 23:58
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This is from a video I was watching that claimed this:
If $phi$ is an automorphism of an extension field $F$ of $mathbb{Q}$, then $phi(q)=q$ for all $qinmathbb{Q}$.
The proof started by assuming that $phi(1)=q$ for some $qinmathbb{Q}$. I understand the stuff that followed. But the explanation never said why we don't have to consider the case in which $phi$ sends $1$ to something in $Fsetminusmathbb{Q}$.
How come we know an automorphism of an extension of $mathbb{Q}$ must send $1$ to something in $mathbb{Q}$ to begin with?
(Thanks in advance.)
field-theory extension-field
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This is from a video I was watching that claimed this:
If $phi$ is an automorphism of an extension field $F$ of $mathbb{Q}$, then $phi(q)=q$ for all $qinmathbb{Q}$.
The proof started by assuming that $phi(1)=q$ for some $qinmathbb{Q}$. I understand the stuff that followed. But the explanation never said why we don't have to consider the case in which $phi$ sends $1$ to something in $Fsetminusmathbb{Q}$.
How come we know an automorphism of an extension of $mathbb{Q}$ must send $1$ to something in $mathbb{Q}$ to begin with?
(Thanks in advance.)
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Doesn't a field automorphism have to map the multiplicative identity to the multiplicative identity?
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– J. W. Tanner
Jan 10 at 23:54
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$phi(1) = phi(1/1) = phi(1)/ phi(1)=1$
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– reuns
Jan 10 at 23:58
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3
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Doesn't a field automorphism have to map the multiplicative identity to the multiplicative identity?
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– J. W. Tanner
Jan 10 at 23:54
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$phi(1) = phi(1/1) = phi(1)/ phi(1)=1$
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– reuns
Jan 10 at 23:58
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3
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Doesn't a field automorphism have to map the multiplicative identity to the multiplicative identity?
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– J. W. Tanner
Jan 10 at 23:54
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Doesn't a field automorphism have to map the multiplicative identity to the multiplicative identity?
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– J. W. Tanner
Jan 10 at 23:54
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$phi(1) = phi(1/1) = phi(1)/ phi(1)=1$
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– reuns
Jan 10 at 23:58
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$phi(1) = phi(1/1) = phi(1)/ phi(1)=1$
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– reuns
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Let
$phi:F to F tag 1$
be any field automorphism of the field
$F supset Bbb Q; tag 2$
then
$(phi(1))^2 = phi(1) phi(1) = phi(1^2) = phi(1), tag 3$
which implies
$phi(1) in {0, 1 }; tag 4$
now
$phi(1) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(c) = phi(c cdot 1) = phi(c)phi(1) = phi(c) cdot 0 = 0, tag 5$
which we rule out since $phi$ is a field automorphism; thus we see just why
$phi(1) = 1; tag 6$
it follows that
$n in Bbb N Longrightarrow phi(n) = phi(underbrace{1 + 1 + ldots + 1}_{text{ n times}}) = underbrace{phi(1) + phi(1) + ldots + phi(1)}_{text{n times}} = n; tag 7$
and also for $n in N$,
$n + (-n) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(n) + phi(-n) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(-n) = -phi(n), tag 8$
since in addition $phi(0) = 0$ (always!), it follows from (7) and (8) that
$z in Bbb Z Longrightarrow phi(z) = z; tag 9$
thus, for
$dfrac{r}{s} in Bbb Q, ; r, s in Bbb Z, tag{10}$
$s phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi(s)phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi left ( sdfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi(r) = r, tag{11}$
whence
$phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = dfrac{r}{s}, tag{12}$
and we have shown that
$forall q in Bbb Q, ; phi(q) = q, tag{13}$
as per request. $OEDelta$.
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I have no idea why specifically $qin Bbb Q$. However, we know any homomorphism sends $1$ to an idempotent element. In a field there are only two idempotent elements. So $phi(1)=1$ is quite easy to prove. And from there $phi(q)=q$ for any $qin Bbb Q$ follows.
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Let
$phi:F to F tag 1$
be any field automorphism of the field
$F supset Bbb Q; tag 2$
then
$(phi(1))^2 = phi(1) phi(1) = phi(1^2) = phi(1), tag 3$
which implies
$phi(1) in {0, 1 }; tag 4$
now
$phi(1) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(c) = phi(c cdot 1) = phi(c)phi(1) = phi(c) cdot 0 = 0, tag 5$
which we rule out since $phi$ is a field automorphism; thus we see just why
$phi(1) = 1; tag 6$
it follows that
$n in Bbb N Longrightarrow phi(n) = phi(underbrace{1 + 1 + ldots + 1}_{text{ n times}}) = underbrace{phi(1) + phi(1) + ldots + phi(1)}_{text{n times}} = n; tag 7$
and also for $n in N$,
$n + (-n) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(n) + phi(-n) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(-n) = -phi(n), tag 8$
since in addition $phi(0) = 0$ (always!), it follows from (7) and (8) that
$z in Bbb Z Longrightarrow phi(z) = z; tag 9$
thus, for
$dfrac{r}{s} in Bbb Q, ; r, s in Bbb Z, tag{10}$
$s phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi(s)phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi left ( sdfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi(r) = r, tag{11}$
whence
$phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = dfrac{r}{s}, tag{12}$
and we have shown that
$forall q in Bbb Q, ; phi(q) = q, tag{13}$
as per request. $OEDelta$.
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Let
$phi:F to F tag 1$
be any field automorphism of the field
$F supset Bbb Q; tag 2$
then
$(phi(1))^2 = phi(1) phi(1) = phi(1^2) = phi(1), tag 3$
which implies
$phi(1) in {0, 1 }; tag 4$
now
$phi(1) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(c) = phi(c cdot 1) = phi(c)phi(1) = phi(c) cdot 0 = 0, tag 5$
which we rule out since $phi$ is a field automorphism; thus we see just why
$phi(1) = 1; tag 6$
it follows that
$n in Bbb N Longrightarrow phi(n) = phi(underbrace{1 + 1 + ldots + 1}_{text{ n times}}) = underbrace{phi(1) + phi(1) + ldots + phi(1)}_{text{n times}} = n; tag 7$
and also for $n in N$,
$n + (-n) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(n) + phi(-n) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(-n) = -phi(n), tag 8$
since in addition $phi(0) = 0$ (always!), it follows from (7) and (8) that
$z in Bbb Z Longrightarrow phi(z) = z; tag 9$
thus, for
$dfrac{r}{s} in Bbb Q, ; r, s in Bbb Z, tag{10}$
$s phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi(s)phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi left ( sdfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi(r) = r, tag{11}$
whence
$phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = dfrac{r}{s}, tag{12}$
and we have shown that
$forall q in Bbb Q, ; phi(q) = q, tag{13}$
as per request. $OEDelta$.
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Let
$phi:F to F tag 1$
be any field automorphism of the field
$F supset Bbb Q; tag 2$
then
$(phi(1))^2 = phi(1) phi(1) = phi(1^2) = phi(1), tag 3$
which implies
$phi(1) in {0, 1 }; tag 4$
now
$phi(1) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(c) = phi(c cdot 1) = phi(c)phi(1) = phi(c) cdot 0 = 0, tag 5$
which we rule out since $phi$ is a field automorphism; thus we see just why
$phi(1) = 1; tag 6$
it follows that
$n in Bbb N Longrightarrow phi(n) = phi(underbrace{1 + 1 + ldots + 1}_{text{ n times}}) = underbrace{phi(1) + phi(1) + ldots + phi(1)}_{text{n times}} = n; tag 7$
and also for $n in N$,
$n + (-n) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(n) + phi(-n) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(-n) = -phi(n), tag 8$
since in addition $phi(0) = 0$ (always!), it follows from (7) and (8) that
$z in Bbb Z Longrightarrow phi(z) = z; tag 9$
thus, for
$dfrac{r}{s} in Bbb Q, ; r, s in Bbb Z, tag{10}$
$s phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi(s)phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi left ( sdfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi(r) = r, tag{11}$
whence
$phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = dfrac{r}{s}, tag{12}$
and we have shown that
$forall q in Bbb Q, ; phi(q) = q, tag{13}$
as per request. $OEDelta$.
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Let
$phi:F to F tag 1$
be any field automorphism of the field
$F supset Bbb Q; tag 2$
then
$(phi(1))^2 = phi(1) phi(1) = phi(1^2) = phi(1), tag 3$
which implies
$phi(1) in {0, 1 }; tag 4$
now
$phi(1) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(c) = phi(c cdot 1) = phi(c)phi(1) = phi(c) cdot 0 = 0, tag 5$
which we rule out since $phi$ is a field automorphism; thus we see just why
$phi(1) = 1; tag 6$
it follows that
$n in Bbb N Longrightarrow phi(n) = phi(underbrace{1 + 1 + ldots + 1}_{text{ n times}}) = underbrace{phi(1) + phi(1) + ldots + phi(1)}_{text{n times}} = n; tag 7$
and also for $n in N$,
$n + (-n) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(n) + phi(-n) = 0 Longrightarrow phi(-n) = -phi(n), tag 8$
since in addition $phi(0) = 0$ (always!), it follows from (7) and (8) that
$z in Bbb Z Longrightarrow phi(z) = z; tag 9$
thus, for
$dfrac{r}{s} in Bbb Q, ; r, s in Bbb Z, tag{10}$
$s phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi(s)phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi left ( sdfrac{r}{s} right ) = phi(r) = r, tag{11}$
whence
$phi left (dfrac{r}{s} right ) = dfrac{r}{s}, tag{12}$
and we have shown that
$forall q in Bbb Q, ; phi(q) = q, tag{13}$
as per request. $OEDelta$.
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I have no idea why specifically $qin Bbb Q$. However, we know any homomorphism sends $1$ to an idempotent element. In a field there are only two idempotent elements. So $phi(1)=1$ is quite easy to prove. And from there $phi(q)=q$ for any $qin Bbb Q$ follows.
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I have no idea why specifically $qin Bbb Q$. However, we know any homomorphism sends $1$ to an idempotent element. In a field there are only two idempotent elements. So $phi(1)=1$ is quite easy to prove. And from there $phi(q)=q$ for any $qin Bbb Q$ follows.
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I have no idea why specifically $qin Bbb Q$. However, we know any homomorphism sends $1$ to an idempotent element. In a field there are only two idempotent elements. So $phi(1)=1$ is quite easy to prove. And from there $phi(q)=q$ for any $qin Bbb Q$ follows.
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I have no idea why specifically $qin Bbb Q$. However, we know any homomorphism sends $1$ to an idempotent element. In a field there are only two idempotent elements. So $phi(1)=1$ is quite easy to prove. And from there $phi(q)=q$ for any $qin Bbb Q$ follows.
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Doesn't a field automorphism have to map the multiplicative identity to the multiplicative identity?
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– J. W. Tanner
Jan 10 at 23:54
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$phi(1) = phi(1/1) = phi(1)/ phi(1)=1$
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– reuns
Jan 10 at 23:58