What could make a ship made of pumice seaworthy?
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I'm designing the type of ships an amphibious race could use for long distance travel, like a floating house, following oceanic currents. I imagine it shaped like an iceberg, with more structure below the water than above.
Essentially a big ship made of sculpted pumice. But I saw in various places that it cannot be done.
Why? What could make a ship made of pumice seaworthy?
geology science ships shipbuilding
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I'm designing the type of ships an amphibious race could use for long distance travel, like a floating house, following oceanic currents. I imagine it shaped like an iceberg, with more structure below the water than above.
Essentially a big ship made of sculpted pumice. But I saw in various places that it cannot be done.
Why? What could make a ship made of pumice seaworthy?
geology science ships shipbuilding
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Have you heard of pumice rafts?
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– Gimelist
Feb 4 at 7:42
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Yes but pumice raft are dozens (or hundred) of mile long. I'm asking about a "real" ship.
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– Juanito
Feb 4 at 7:48
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Could you link to or cite a reason given for why it supposedly cannot work? Pumice floats, and i see no reason why something that naturally floats should not be usable as a boat. Or is your question about the singular use of pumice, wihtout any other structural material, thus actually being a question about the mechanical strength of pumice?
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– bukwyrm
Feb 4 at 7:54
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You could make a pumice boat about the same as an expanded Styrofoam boat. Use the Pumice as a core and skin it with a glass fibre resin composite. Remember if you want to make a boat that displaces water (has a hold) then you will need to have a keel weight (free with steel and concrete boats) needed with pontoon and wood boats. You are proposing to use raft material to make a boat so you will have to make allowances.
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– KalleMP
Feb 4 at 18:08
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@Gimelist, a pumice raft has zero structural integrity. It exists as a coherent object only so long as winds and currents are favorable for holding it together.
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– Mark
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I'm designing the type of ships an amphibious race could use for long distance travel, like a floating house, following oceanic currents. I imagine it shaped like an iceberg, with more structure below the water than above.
Essentially a big ship made of sculpted pumice. But I saw in various places that it cannot be done.
Why? What could make a ship made of pumice seaworthy?
geology science ships shipbuilding
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I'm designing the type of ships an amphibious race could use for long distance travel, like a floating house, following oceanic currents. I imagine it shaped like an iceberg, with more structure below the water than above.
Essentially a big ship made of sculpted pumice. But I saw in various places that it cannot be done.
Why? What could make a ship made of pumice seaworthy?
geology science ships shipbuilding
geology science ships shipbuilding
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Have you heard of pumice rafts?
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– Gimelist
Feb 4 at 7:42
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Yes but pumice raft are dozens (or hundred) of mile long. I'm asking about a "real" ship.
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– Juanito
Feb 4 at 7:48
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Could you link to or cite a reason given for why it supposedly cannot work? Pumice floats, and i see no reason why something that naturally floats should not be usable as a boat. Or is your question about the singular use of pumice, wihtout any other structural material, thus actually being a question about the mechanical strength of pumice?
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– bukwyrm
Feb 4 at 7:54
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You could make a pumice boat about the same as an expanded Styrofoam boat. Use the Pumice as a core and skin it with a glass fibre resin composite. Remember if you want to make a boat that displaces water (has a hold) then you will need to have a keel weight (free with steel and concrete boats) needed with pontoon and wood boats. You are proposing to use raft material to make a boat so you will have to make allowances.
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– KalleMP
Feb 4 at 18:08
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@Gimelist, a pumice raft has zero structural integrity. It exists as a coherent object only so long as winds and currents are favorable for holding it together.
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– Mark
Feb 4 at 23:00
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Have you heard of pumice rafts?
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– Gimelist
Feb 4 at 7:42
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Yes but pumice raft are dozens (or hundred) of mile long. I'm asking about a "real" ship.
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– Juanito
Feb 4 at 7:48
4
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Could you link to or cite a reason given for why it supposedly cannot work? Pumice floats, and i see no reason why something that naturally floats should not be usable as a boat. Or is your question about the singular use of pumice, wihtout any other structural material, thus actually being a question about the mechanical strength of pumice?
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– bukwyrm
Feb 4 at 7:54
2
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You could make a pumice boat about the same as an expanded Styrofoam boat. Use the Pumice as a core and skin it with a glass fibre resin composite. Remember if you want to make a boat that displaces water (has a hold) then you will need to have a keel weight (free with steel and concrete boats) needed with pontoon and wood boats. You are proposing to use raft material to make a boat so you will have to make allowances.
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– KalleMP
Feb 4 at 18:08
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@Gimelist, a pumice raft has zero structural integrity. It exists as a coherent object only so long as winds and currents are favorable for holding it together.
$endgroup$
– Mark
Feb 4 at 23:00
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3
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Have you heard of pumice rafts?
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– Gimelist
Feb 4 at 7:42
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Have you heard of pumice rafts?
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– Gimelist
Feb 4 at 7:42
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1
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Yes but pumice raft are dozens (or hundred) of mile long. I'm asking about a "real" ship.
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– Juanito
Feb 4 at 7:48
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Yes but pumice raft are dozens (or hundred) of mile long. I'm asking about a "real" ship.
$endgroup$
– Juanito
Feb 4 at 7:48
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4
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Could you link to or cite a reason given for why it supposedly cannot work? Pumice floats, and i see no reason why something that naturally floats should not be usable as a boat. Or is your question about the singular use of pumice, wihtout any other structural material, thus actually being a question about the mechanical strength of pumice?
$endgroup$
– bukwyrm
Feb 4 at 7:54
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Could you link to or cite a reason given for why it supposedly cannot work? Pumice floats, and i see no reason why something that naturally floats should not be usable as a boat. Or is your question about the singular use of pumice, wihtout any other structural material, thus actually being a question about the mechanical strength of pumice?
$endgroup$
– bukwyrm
Feb 4 at 7:54
2
2
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You could make a pumice boat about the same as an expanded Styrofoam boat. Use the Pumice as a core and skin it with a glass fibre resin composite. Remember if you want to make a boat that displaces water (has a hold) then you will need to have a keel weight (free with steel and concrete boats) needed with pontoon and wood boats. You are proposing to use raft material to make a boat so you will have to make allowances.
$endgroup$
– KalleMP
Feb 4 at 18:08
$begingroup$
You could make a pumice boat about the same as an expanded Styrofoam boat. Use the Pumice as a core and skin it with a glass fibre resin composite. Remember if you want to make a boat that displaces water (has a hold) then you will need to have a keel weight (free with steel and concrete boats) needed with pontoon and wood boats. You are proposing to use raft material to make a boat so you will have to make allowances.
$endgroup$
– KalleMP
Feb 4 at 18:08
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@Gimelist, a pumice raft has zero structural integrity. It exists as a coherent object only so long as winds and currents are favorable for holding it together.
$endgroup$
– Mark
Feb 4 at 23:00
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@Gimelist, a pumice raft has zero structural integrity. It exists as a coherent object only so long as winds and currents are favorable for holding it together.
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– Mark
Feb 4 at 23:00
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But I saw in various places that it cannot be done.
Why?
There are two main issues for carving a boat out of pumice:
- Mechanical properties: a boat hull has to withstand loads without breaking, pumice alone is a glassy material, rather brittle. You don't want your boat to crack in two after taking a wave.
- Water permeability: pumice is not water-tight, meaning that some water will reach into the hull, leading to the sinking of the boat.
What could make a ship made of pumice seaworthy?
- Use some other material to add structural robustness: wood, steel, concrete, as long as the pumice provides just the shell.
- Make the pumice water-tight. Apply a glassy enamel on the outer surface, for example.
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"water-thigh" you meant water-tight.
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– stannius
Feb 4 at 10:04
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@stannous, yep. Autocorrect fooled me.
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– L.Dutch♦
Feb 4 at 10:09
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You meant @stannius ;)
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– stannius
Feb 4 at 10:11
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Enamel? Wouldn't the tried and true solution of "slather it in pitch" work just as with other boats?
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– rackandboneman
Feb 4 at 12:07
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@rackandboneman, I don't know how pitch interact with glassy materials. On the other hand, flaming the surface could quickly seal it with an enamel like material.
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– L.Dutch♦
Feb 4 at 12:10
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Pumice is composed of highly microvesicular glass pyroclastic with
very thin, translucent bubble walls of extrusive igneous rock...It
forms when volcanic gases exsolving from viscous magma form bubbles
that remain within the viscous magma as it cools to glass...Pumice has
an average porosity of 90%, and initially floats on water.
...When larger amounts of gas are present, the result is a
finer-grained variety of pumice known as pumicite. Pumice is
considered a glass because it has no crystal structure. Pumice varies
in density according to the thickness of the solid material between
the bubbles; many samples float in water.
After the explosion of
Krakatoa, rafts of pumice drifted through the Indian Ocean for up to
20 years, with tree trunks floating among them. In fact, pumice rafts
disperse and support several marine species. In 1979, 1984 and 2006,
underwater volcanic eruptions near Tonga created large pumice rafts,
some as large as 30 kilometers (19 mi) that floated hundreds of
kilometres to Fiji. (ref)
It seems you can make rafts of pumice.
(ref)
Featherock pumice is made of volcanic glass. It has been sitting at
the original site of its eruption for thousands of years. It will not
deteriorate over time outside...Pumice is a very soft rock that will
carve very easily with regular metal tools. (ref)
You can also sculpt pumice easily and it won't fall part when exposed to the elements.
There’s nothing new about pumice concrete. The Romans were using it
2000 years ago. Roman engineers and builders have been celebrated for
their enduring wonders—especially for the most well-preserved of all
Roman architecture, the Pantheon of Rome. The dome itself is a
world-class wonder. It was expertly cast using a concrete consisting
of hydrated lime cement, fine-grained pumice pozzolan (critical!) and
lightweight pumice aggregate.
Modern scientists have determined that the manageable weight of the
Pantheon’s huge, unreinforced concrete dome is attributed to
lightweight pumice aggregate, while the secret to Pantheon’s (and
other Roman structures) longevity is pozzolan: fine-grained pumice
(known as pozzolana to the Romans). (ref)
Pumice is also fairly durable, at least when mixed with some other materials.
But can you make a boat out of pumice?
Well, you can make a small boat out of concrete.
You can even make large boats out of concrete.
So, sure, it sounds like a pumice boat would float.
You might want certain parts to be poured concrete made in part from pumice stone, rather than just carved pumice. Not only will be be easier to get the shapes you want, but it will hold different pieces of pumice together and it will make a smoother surface, something your amphibians will appreciate.
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in contrast to concrete, pumice is not water tight.
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– Trish
Feb 4 at 17:33
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@Trish A lot of materials used for boats are not waterproof as is. Wood, for example. But they float. Waterproofing can come later. Also: concrete is not waterproof either. concretenetwork.com/concrete/waterproofing_concrete_foundations
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– Cyn
Feb 4 at 17:54
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Well the easy answer would be using pumice concrete.
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– KalleMP
Feb 4 at 18:05
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@KalleMP which is why I included it in my answer :-D
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– Cyn
Feb 4 at 18:06
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But I saw in various places that it cannot be done.
Why?
There are two main issues for carving a boat out of pumice:
- Mechanical properties: a boat hull has to withstand loads without breaking, pumice alone is a glassy material, rather brittle. You don't want your boat to crack in two after taking a wave.
- Water permeability: pumice is not water-tight, meaning that some water will reach into the hull, leading to the sinking of the boat.
What could make a ship made of pumice seaworthy?
- Use some other material to add structural robustness: wood, steel, concrete, as long as the pumice provides just the shell.
- Make the pumice water-tight. Apply a glassy enamel on the outer surface, for example.
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"water-thigh" you meant water-tight.
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– stannius
Feb 4 at 10:04
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@stannous, yep. Autocorrect fooled me.
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– L.Dutch♦
Feb 4 at 10:09
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You meant @stannius ;)
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– stannius
Feb 4 at 10:11
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Enamel? Wouldn't the tried and true solution of "slather it in pitch" work just as with other boats?
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– rackandboneman
Feb 4 at 12:07
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@rackandboneman, I don't know how pitch interact with glassy materials. On the other hand, flaming the surface could quickly seal it with an enamel like material.
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– L.Dutch♦
Feb 4 at 12:10
add a comment |
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But I saw in various places that it cannot be done.
Why?
There are two main issues for carving a boat out of pumice:
- Mechanical properties: a boat hull has to withstand loads without breaking, pumice alone is a glassy material, rather brittle. You don't want your boat to crack in two after taking a wave.
- Water permeability: pumice is not water-tight, meaning that some water will reach into the hull, leading to the sinking of the boat.
What could make a ship made of pumice seaworthy?
- Use some other material to add structural robustness: wood, steel, concrete, as long as the pumice provides just the shell.
- Make the pumice water-tight. Apply a glassy enamel on the outer surface, for example.
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6
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"water-thigh" you meant water-tight.
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– stannius
Feb 4 at 10:04
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@stannous, yep. Autocorrect fooled me.
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– L.Dutch♦
Feb 4 at 10:09
12
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You meant @stannius ;)
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– stannius
Feb 4 at 10:11
5
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Enamel? Wouldn't the tried and true solution of "slather it in pitch" work just as with other boats?
$endgroup$
– rackandboneman
Feb 4 at 12:07
1
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@rackandboneman, I don't know how pitch interact with glassy materials. On the other hand, flaming the surface could quickly seal it with an enamel like material.
$endgroup$
– L.Dutch♦
Feb 4 at 12:10
add a comment |
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But I saw in various places that it cannot be done.
Why?
There are two main issues for carving a boat out of pumice:
- Mechanical properties: a boat hull has to withstand loads without breaking, pumice alone is a glassy material, rather brittle. You don't want your boat to crack in two after taking a wave.
- Water permeability: pumice is not water-tight, meaning that some water will reach into the hull, leading to the sinking of the boat.
What could make a ship made of pumice seaworthy?
- Use some other material to add structural robustness: wood, steel, concrete, as long as the pumice provides just the shell.
- Make the pumice water-tight. Apply a glassy enamel on the outer surface, for example.
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But I saw in various places that it cannot be done.
Why?
There are two main issues for carving a boat out of pumice:
- Mechanical properties: a boat hull has to withstand loads without breaking, pumice alone is a glassy material, rather brittle. You don't want your boat to crack in two after taking a wave.
- Water permeability: pumice is not water-tight, meaning that some water will reach into the hull, leading to the sinking of the boat.
What could make a ship made of pumice seaworthy?
- Use some other material to add structural robustness: wood, steel, concrete, as long as the pumice provides just the shell.
- Make the pumice water-tight. Apply a glassy enamel on the outer surface, for example.
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"water-thigh" you meant water-tight.
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– stannius
Feb 4 at 10:04
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@stannous, yep. Autocorrect fooled me.
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– L.Dutch♦
Feb 4 at 10:09
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You meant @stannius ;)
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– stannius
Feb 4 at 10:11
5
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Enamel? Wouldn't the tried and true solution of "slather it in pitch" work just as with other boats?
$endgroup$
– rackandboneman
Feb 4 at 12:07
1
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@rackandboneman, I don't know how pitch interact with glassy materials. On the other hand, flaming the surface could quickly seal it with an enamel like material.
$endgroup$
– L.Dutch♦
Feb 4 at 12:10
add a comment |
6
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"water-thigh" you meant water-tight.
$endgroup$
– stannius
Feb 4 at 10:04
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@stannous, yep. Autocorrect fooled me.
$endgroup$
– L.Dutch♦
Feb 4 at 10:09
12
$begingroup$
You meant @stannius ;)
$endgroup$
– stannius
Feb 4 at 10:11
5
$begingroup$
Enamel? Wouldn't the tried and true solution of "slather it in pitch" work just as with other boats?
$endgroup$
– rackandboneman
Feb 4 at 12:07
1
$begingroup$
@rackandboneman, I don't know how pitch interact with glassy materials. On the other hand, flaming the surface could quickly seal it with an enamel like material.
$endgroup$
– L.Dutch♦
Feb 4 at 12:10
6
6
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"water-thigh" you meant water-tight.
$endgroup$
– stannius
Feb 4 at 10:04
$begingroup$
"water-thigh" you meant water-tight.
$endgroup$
– stannius
Feb 4 at 10:04
$begingroup$
@stannous, yep. Autocorrect fooled me.
$endgroup$
– L.Dutch♦
Feb 4 at 10:09
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@stannous, yep. Autocorrect fooled me.
$endgroup$
– L.Dutch♦
Feb 4 at 10:09
12
12
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You meant @stannius ;)
$endgroup$
– stannius
Feb 4 at 10:11
$begingroup$
You meant @stannius ;)
$endgroup$
– stannius
Feb 4 at 10:11
5
5
$begingroup$
Enamel? Wouldn't the tried and true solution of "slather it in pitch" work just as with other boats?
$endgroup$
– rackandboneman
Feb 4 at 12:07
$begingroup$
Enamel? Wouldn't the tried and true solution of "slather it in pitch" work just as with other boats?
$endgroup$
– rackandboneman
Feb 4 at 12:07
1
1
$begingroup$
@rackandboneman, I don't know how pitch interact with glassy materials. On the other hand, flaming the surface could quickly seal it with an enamel like material.
$endgroup$
– L.Dutch♦
Feb 4 at 12:10
$begingroup$
@rackandboneman, I don't know how pitch interact with glassy materials. On the other hand, flaming the surface could quickly seal it with an enamel like material.
$endgroup$
– L.Dutch♦
Feb 4 at 12:10
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Pumice is composed of highly microvesicular glass pyroclastic with
very thin, translucent bubble walls of extrusive igneous rock...It
forms when volcanic gases exsolving from viscous magma form bubbles
that remain within the viscous magma as it cools to glass...Pumice has
an average porosity of 90%, and initially floats on water.
...When larger amounts of gas are present, the result is a
finer-grained variety of pumice known as pumicite. Pumice is
considered a glass because it has no crystal structure. Pumice varies
in density according to the thickness of the solid material between
the bubbles; many samples float in water.
After the explosion of
Krakatoa, rafts of pumice drifted through the Indian Ocean for up to
20 years, with tree trunks floating among them. In fact, pumice rafts
disperse and support several marine species. In 1979, 1984 and 2006,
underwater volcanic eruptions near Tonga created large pumice rafts,
some as large as 30 kilometers (19 mi) that floated hundreds of
kilometres to Fiji. (ref)
It seems you can make rafts of pumice.
(ref)
Featherock pumice is made of volcanic glass. It has been sitting at
the original site of its eruption for thousands of years. It will not
deteriorate over time outside...Pumice is a very soft rock that will
carve very easily with regular metal tools. (ref)
You can also sculpt pumice easily and it won't fall part when exposed to the elements.
There’s nothing new about pumice concrete. The Romans were using it
2000 years ago. Roman engineers and builders have been celebrated for
their enduring wonders—especially for the most well-preserved of all
Roman architecture, the Pantheon of Rome. The dome itself is a
world-class wonder. It was expertly cast using a concrete consisting
of hydrated lime cement, fine-grained pumice pozzolan (critical!) and
lightweight pumice aggregate.
Modern scientists have determined that the manageable weight of the
Pantheon’s huge, unreinforced concrete dome is attributed to
lightweight pumice aggregate, while the secret to Pantheon’s (and
other Roman structures) longevity is pozzolan: fine-grained pumice
(known as pozzolana to the Romans). (ref)
Pumice is also fairly durable, at least when mixed with some other materials.
But can you make a boat out of pumice?
Well, you can make a small boat out of concrete.
You can even make large boats out of concrete.
So, sure, it sounds like a pumice boat would float.
You might want certain parts to be poured concrete made in part from pumice stone, rather than just carved pumice. Not only will be be easier to get the shapes you want, but it will hold different pieces of pumice together and it will make a smoother surface, something your amphibians will appreciate.
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in contrast to concrete, pumice is not water tight.
$endgroup$
– Trish
Feb 4 at 17:33
1
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@Trish A lot of materials used for boats are not waterproof as is. Wood, for example. But they float. Waterproofing can come later. Also: concrete is not waterproof either. concretenetwork.com/concrete/waterproofing_concrete_foundations
$endgroup$
– Cyn
Feb 4 at 17:54
1
$begingroup$
Well the easy answer would be using pumice concrete.
$endgroup$
– KalleMP
Feb 4 at 18:05
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@KalleMP which is why I included it in my answer :-D
$endgroup$
– Cyn
Feb 4 at 18:06
add a comment |
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Pumice is composed of highly microvesicular glass pyroclastic with
very thin, translucent bubble walls of extrusive igneous rock...It
forms when volcanic gases exsolving from viscous magma form bubbles
that remain within the viscous magma as it cools to glass...Pumice has
an average porosity of 90%, and initially floats on water.
...When larger amounts of gas are present, the result is a
finer-grained variety of pumice known as pumicite. Pumice is
considered a glass because it has no crystal structure. Pumice varies
in density according to the thickness of the solid material between
the bubbles; many samples float in water.
After the explosion of
Krakatoa, rafts of pumice drifted through the Indian Ocean for up to
20 years, with tree trunks floating among them. In fact, pumice rafts
disperse and support several marine species. In 1979, 1984 and 2006,
underwater volcanic eruptions near Tonga created large pumice rafts,
some as large as 30 kilometers (19 mi) that floated hundreds of
kilometres to Fiji. (ref)
It seems you can make rafts of pumice.
(ref)
Featherock pumice is made of volcanic glass. It has been sitting at
the original site of its eruption for thousands of years. It will not
deteriorate over time outside...Pumice is a very soft rock that will
carve very easily with regular metal tools. (ref)
You can also sculpt pumice easily and it won't fall part when exposed to the elements.
There’s nothing new about pumice concrete. The Romans were using it
2000 years ago. Roman engineers and builders have been celebrated for
their enduring wonders—especially for the most well-preserved of all
Roman architecture, the Pantheon of Rome. The dome itself is a
world-class wonder. It was expertly cast using a concrete consisting
of hydrated lime cement, fine-grained pumice pozzolan (critical!) and
lightweight pumice aggregate.
Modern scientists have determined that the manageable weight of the
Pantheon’s huge, unreinforced concrete dome is attributed to
lightweight pumice aggregate, while the secret to Pantheon’s (and
other Roman structures) longevity is pozzolan: fine-grained pumice
(known as pozzolana to the Romans). (ref)
Pumice is also fairly durable, at least when mixed with some other materials.
But can you make a boat out of pumice?
Well, you can make a small boat out of concrete.
You can even make large boats out of concrete.
So, sure, it sounds like a pumice boat would float.
You might want certain parts to be poured concrete made in part from pumice stone, rather than just carved pumice. Not only will be be easier to get the shapes you want, but it will hold different pieces of pumice together and it will make a smoother surface, something your amphibians will appreciate.
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in contrast to concrete, pumice is not water tight.
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– Trish
Feb 4 at 17:33
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@Trish A lot of materials used for boats are not waterproof as is. Wood, for example. But they float. Waterproofing can come later. Also: concrete is not waterproof either. concretenetwork.com/concrete/waterproofing_concrete_foundations
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– Cyn
Feb 4 at 17:54
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Well the easy answer would be using pumice concrete.
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– KalleMP
Feb 4 at 18:05
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@KalleMP which is why I included it in my answer :-D
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– Cyn
Feb 4 at 18:06
add a comment |
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Pumice is composed of highly microvesicular glass pyroclastic with
very thin, translucent bubble walls of extrusive igneous rock...It
forms when volcanic gases exsolving from viscous magma form bubbles
that remain within the viscous magma as it cools to glass...Pumice has
an average porosity of 90%, and initially floats on water.
...When larger amounts of gas are present, the result is a
finer-grained variety of pumice known as pumicite. Pumice is
considered a glass because it has no crystal structure. Pumice varies
in density according to the thickness of the solid material between
the bubbles; many samples float in water.
After the explosion of
Krakatoa, rafts of pumice drifted through the Indian Ocean for up to
20 years, with tree trunks floating among them. In fact, pumice rafts
disperse and support several marine species. In 1979, 1984 and 2006,
underwater volcanic eruptions near Tonga created large pumice rafts,
some as large as 30 kilometers (19 mi) that floated hundreds of
kilometres to Fiji. (ref)
It seems you can make rafts of pumice.
(ref)
Featherock pumice is made of volcanic glass. It has been sitting at
the original site of its eruption for thousands of years. It will not
deteriorate over time outside...Pumice is a very soft rock that will
carve very easily with regular metal tools. (ref)
You can also sculpt pumice easily and it won't fall part when exposed to the elements.
There’s nothing new about pumice concrete. The Romans were using it
2000 years ago. Roman engineers and builders have been celebrated for
their enduring wonders—especially for the most well-preserved of all
Roman architecture, the Pantheon of Rome. The dome itself is a
world-class wonder. It was expertly cast using a concrete consisting
of hydrated lime cement, fine-grained pumice pozzolan (critical!) and
lightweight pumice aggregate.
Modern scientists have determined that the manageable weight of the
Pantheon’s huge, unreinforced concrete dome is attributed to
lightweight pumice aggregate, while the secret to Pantheon’s (and
other Roman structures) longevity is pozzolan: fine-grained pumice
(known as pozzolana to the Romans). (ref)
Pumice is also fairly durable, at least when mixed with some other materials.
But can you make a boat out of pumice?
Well, you can make a small boat out of concrete.
You can even make large boats out of concrete.
So, sure, it sounds like a pumice boat would float.
You might want certain parts to be poured concrete made in part from pumice stone, rather than just carved pumice. Not only will be be easier to get the shapes you want, but it will hold different pieces of pumice together and it will make a smoother surface, something your amphibians will appreciate.
$endgroup$
Pumice is composed of highly microvesicular glass pyroclastic with
very thin, translucent bubble walls of extrusive igneous rock...It
forms when volcanic gases exsolving from viscous magma form bubbles
that remain within the viscous magma as it cools to glass...Pumice has
an average porosity of 90%, and initially floats on water.
...When larger amounts of gas are present, the result is a
finer-grained variety of pumice known as pumicite. Pumice is
considered a glass because it has no crystal structure. Pumice varies
in density according to the thickness of the solid material between
the bubbles; many samples float in water.
After the explosion of
Krakatoa, rafts of pumice drifted through the Indian Ocean for up to
20 years, with tree trunks floating among them. In fact, pumice rafts
disperse and support several marine species. In 1979, 1984 and 2006,
underwater volcanic eruptions near Tonga created large pumice rafts,
some as large as 30 kilometers (19 mi) that floated hundreds of
kilometres to Fiji. (ref)
It seems you can make rafts of pumice.
(ref)
Featherock pumice is made of volcanic glass. It has been sitting at
the original site of its eruption for thousands of years. It will not
deteriorate over time outside...Pumice is a very soft rock that will
carve very easily with regular metal tools. (ref)
You can also sculpt pumice easily and it won't fall part when exposed to the elements.
There’s nothing new about pumice concrete. The Romans were using it
2000 years ago. Roman engineers and builders have been celebrated for
their enduring wonders—especially for the most well-preserved of all
Roman architecture, the Pantheon of Rome. The dome itself is a
world-class wonder. It was expertly cast using a concrete consisting
of hydrated lime cement, fine-grained pumice pozzolan (critical!) and
lightweight pumice aggregate.
Modern scientists have determined that the manageable weight of the
Pantheon’s huge, unreinforced concrete dome is attributed to
lightweight pumice aggregate, while the secret to Pantheon’s (and
other Roman structures) longevity is pozzolan: fine-grained pumice
(known as pozzolana to the Romans). (ref)
Pumice is also fairly durable, at least when mixed with some other materials.
But can you make a boat out of pumice?
Well, you can make a small boat out of concrete.
You can even make large boats out of concrete.
So, sure, it sounds like a pumice boat would float.
You might want certain parts to be poured concrete made in part from pumice stone, rather than just carved pumice. Not only will be be easier to get the shapes you want, but it will hold different pieces of pumice together and it will make a smoother surface, something your amphibians will appreciate.
answered Feb 4 at 7:49
CynCyn
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in contrast to concrete, pumice is not water tight.
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– Trish
Feb 4 at 17:33
1
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@Trish A lot of materials used for boats are not waterproof as is. Wood, for example. But they float. Waterproofing can come later. Also: concrete is not waterproof either. concretenetwork.com/concrete/waterproofing_concrete_foundations
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– Cyn
Feb 4 at 17:54
1
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Well the easy answer would be using pumice concrete.
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– KalleMP
Feb 4 at 18:05
$begingroup$
@KalleMP which is why I included it in my answer :-D
$endgroup$
– Cyn
Feb 4 at 18:06
add a comment |
1
$begingroup$
in contrast to concrete, pumice is not water tight.
$endgroup$
– Trish
Feb 4 at 17:33
1
$begingroup$
@Trish A lot of materials used for boats are not waterproof as is. Wood, for example. But they float. Waterproofing can come later. Also: concrete is not waterproof either. concretenetwork.com/concrete/waterproofing_concrete_foundations
$endgroup$
– Cyn
Feb 4 at 17:54
1
$begingroup$
Well the easy answer would be using pumice concrete.
$endgroup$
– KalleMP
Feb 4 at 18:05
$begingroup$
@KalleMP which is why I included it in my answer :-D
$endgroup$
– Cyn
Feb 4 at 18:06
1
1
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in contrast to concrete, pumice is not water tight.
$endgroup$
– Trish
Feb 4 at 17:33
$begingroup$
in contrast to concrete, pumice is not water tight.
$endgroup$
– Trish
Feb 4 at 17:33
1
1
$begingroup$
@Trish A lot of materials used for boats are not waterproof as is. Wood, for example. But they float. Waterproofing can come later. Also: concrete is not waterproof either. concretenetwork.com/concrete/waterproofing_concrete_foundations
$endgroup$
– Cyn
Feb 4 at 17:54
$begingroup$
@Trish A lot of materials used for boats are not waterproof as is. Wood, for example. But they float. Waterproofing can come later. Also: concrete is not waterproof either. concretenetwork.com/concrete/waterproofing_concrete_foundations
$endgroup$
– Cyn
Feb 4 at 17:54
1
1
$begingroup$
Well the easy answer would be using pumice concrete.
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– KalleMP
Feb 4 at 18:05
$begingroup$
Well the easy answer would be using pumice concrete.
$endgroup$
– KalleMP
Feb 4 at 18:05
$begingroup$
@KalleMP which is why I included it in my answer :-D
$endgroup$
– Cyn
Feb 4 at 18:06
$begingroup$
@KalleMP which is why I included it in my answer :-D
$endgroup$
– Cyn
Feb 4 at 18:06
add a comment |
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Have you heard of pumice rafts?
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– Gimelist
Feb 4 at 7:42
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Yes but pumice raft are dozens (or hundred) of mile long. I'm asking about a "real" ship.
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– Juanito
Feb 4 at 7:48
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Could you link to or cite a reason given for why it supposedly cannot work? Pumice floats, and i see no reason why something that naturally floats should not be usable as a boat. Or is your question about the singular use of pumice, wihtout any other structural material, thus actually being a question about the mechanical strength of pumice?
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– bukwyrm
Feb 4 at 7:54
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You could make a pumice boat about the same as an expanded Styrofoam boat. Use the Pumice as a core and skin it with a glass fibre resin composite. Remember if you want to make a boat that displaces water (has a hold) then you will need to have a keel weight (free with steel and concrete boats) needed with pontoon and wood boats. You are proposing to use raft material to make a boat so you will have to make allowances.
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– KalleMP
Feb 4 at 18:08
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@Gimelist, a pumice raft has zero structural integrity. It exists as a coherent object only so long as winds and currents are favorable for holding it together.
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– Mark
Feb 4 at 23:00