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How is the following result of a parabola with focus $F(0,0)$ and directrix $y=-p$, for $p gt 0$ reached, it is said to be $r(theta)=frac{p}{1-sin theta} $?



I started by saying the the standard equation of a parabola, in Cartesian form is $y= frac{x^2}{4p} $, where $p gt 0 $ and the focus is at $F(0,p)$ and the directrix is $y=-p$. So for the question above, would the equation in Cartesian form be $$y= frac{x^2}{4 cdot left(frac{1}{2}pright)}=frac{x^2}{2p}?$$



I thought this because the vertex is halfway between the directrix and the focus of a parabola.



Then I tried to use the facts:
$$r^2 = x^2 +y^2 \
x =rcostheta \
y=rsintheta.$$



But I couldn't get the form required, any corrections, or hints?



Cheers.










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How is the following result of a parabola with focus $F(0,0)$ and directrix $y=-p$, for $p gt 0$ reached, it is said to be $r(theta)=frac{p}{1-sin theta} $?



I started by saying the the standard equation of a parabola, in Cartesian form is $y= frac{x^2}{4p} $, where $p gt 0 $ and the focus is at $F(0,p)$ and the directrix is $y=-p$. So for the question above, would the equation in Cartesian form be $$y= frac{x^2}{4 cdot left(frac{1}{2}pright)}=frac{x^2}{2p}?$$



I thought this because the vertex is halfway between the directrix and the focus of a parabola.



Then I tried to use the facts:
$$r^2 = x^2 +y^2 \
x =rcostheta \
y=rsintheta.$$



But I couldn't get the form required, any corrections, or hints?



Cheers.










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How is the following result of a parabola with focus $F(0,0)$ and directrix $y=-p$, for $p gt 0$ reached, it is said to be $r(theta)=frac{p}{1-sin theta} $?



I started by saying the the standard equation of a parabola, in Cartesian form is $y= frac{x^2}{4p} $, where $p gt 0 $ and the focus is at $F(0,p)$ and the directrix is $y=-p$. So for the question above, would the equation in Cartesian form be $$y= frac{x^2}{4 cdot left(frac{1}{2}pright)}=frac{x^2}{2p}?$$



I thought this because the vertex is halfway between the directrix and the focus of a parabola.



Then I tried to use the facts:
$$r^2 = x^2 +y^2 \
x =rcostheta \
y=rsintheta.$$



But I couldn't get the form required, any corrections, or hints?



Cheers.










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How is the following result of a parabola with focus $F(0,0)$ and directrix $y=-p$, for $p gt 0$ reached, it is said to be $r(theta)=frac{p}{1-sin theta} $?



I started by saying the the standard equation of a parabola, in Cartesian form is $y= frac{x^2}{4p} $, where $p gt 0 $ and the focus is at $F(0,p)$ and the directrix is $y=-p$. So for the question above, would the equation in Cartesian form be $$y= frac{x^2}{4 cdot left(frac{1}{2}pright)}=frac{x^2}{2p}?$$



I thought this because the vertex is halfway between the directrix and the focus of a parabola.



Then I tried to use the facts:
$$r^2 = x^2 +y^2 \
x =rcostheta \
y=rsintheta.$$



But I couldn't get the form required, any corrections, or hints?



Cheers.







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No, that can't work, because you've shown that these parabolae have different foci.



Since there are lots of parabolae ($x^2=4ay$, $y^2=4ax$, any rotation and translation of one of these), it's easier to work backwards. So let's do that: $sin{theta} = y/r$, so
$$ p= r(1-sin{theta}) = r-y, $$
so
$$ x^2+y^2 = r^2 = (p+y)^2 = p^2+2py+y^2, $$
and
$$ x^2 = 2py+p^2. $$
In particular, if we look more closely, we notice that
$$ sqrt{x^2+y^2} = p+y $$
is the definition of a parabola: the distance from $(0,0)$ to the point is the same as $y+p$, the distance from the horizontal line $y=-p$.






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    The equation of the parabola you want is



    $$
    y = frac{x^2}{2p} - frac{p}{2}
    $$



    Substituting



    $$
    x = r cos theta
    $$
    $$
    y = r sin theta
    $$



    gives us



    $$
    frac{cos^2theta}{2p} r^2 - (sin theta) r - frac{p}{2} = 0
    $$



    If you solve this quadratic expression for $r$, and use the identity $sin^2theta + cos^2theta = 1$ twice, you should obtain the expression you want.






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      The equation for a parabola in the complex plane is



      $$z=frac{1}{2}p(u+i)^2\
      y=pu\
      x=frac{1}{2}p(u^2-1)
      $$



      I think you would have to say



      $$r=|z|\
      theta=arg(z)$$



      to get the true polar form.



      Ref: Zwikker, C. (1968). The Advanced Geometry of Plane Curves and Their Applications, Dover Press.






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        For a parabola with $F(0,0)$ and directrix $y=-p$, first write a “distance equation” relating any point on the parabola, $P(x,y)$, to $F$ and to the directrix, $D$.



        A parabola can be defined by its locus: $distanceFP = distanceDP$.



        $distanceFP = sqrt{(x-0)^2+(y-0)^2} = sqrt{x^2+y^2}$



        $distanceDP = y-(-p) = y+p$



        So, for $P(x,y)$ on the parabola with $F(0,0)$ and directrix $y=-p$, we can write
        $$sqrt{x^2+y^2}=y+p …(1)$$
        For polar cords, we know that $x^2+y^2=r^2$, and $y=r sintheta$



        Therefore (1) becomes $$sqrt{r^2}=r sintheta + p$$
        $$r = r sintheta + p$$
        $$r – r sintheta = p$$
        $$r(1 – sintheta) = p$$
        Hence $$r = frac{p}{1 – sintheta}$$






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          No, that can't work, because you've shown that these parabolae have different foci.



          Since there are lots of parabolae ($x^2=4ay$, $y^2=4ax$, any rotation and translation of one of these), it's easier to work backwards. So let's do that: $sin{theta} = y/r$, so
          $$ p= r(1-sin{theta}) = r-y, $$
          so
          $$ x^2+y^2 = r^2 = (p+y)^2 = p^2+2py+y^2, $$
          and
          $$ x^2 = 2py+p^2. $$
          In particular, if we look more closely, we notice that
          $$ sqrt{x^2+y^2} = p+y $$
          is the definition of a parabola: the distance from $(0,0)$ to the point is the same as $y+p$, the distance from the horizontal line $y=-p$.






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            No, that can't work, because you've shown that these parabolae have different foci.



            Since there are lots of parabolae ($x^2=4ay$, $y^2=4ax$, any rotation and translation of one of these), it's easier to work backwards. So let's do that: $sin{theta} = y/r$, so
            $$ p= r(1-sin{theta}) = r-y, $$
            so
            $$ x^2+y^2 = r^2 = (p+y)^2 = p^2+2py+y^2, $$
            and
            $$ x^2 = 2py+p^2. $$
            In particular, if we look more closely, we notice that
            $$ sqrt{x^2+y^2} = p+y $$
            is the definition of a parabola: the distance from $(0,0)$ to the point is the same as $y+p$, the distance from the horizontal line $y=-p$.






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              No, that can't work, because you've shown that these parabolae have different foci.



              Since there are lots of parabolae ($x^2=4ay$, $y^2=4ax$, any rotation and translation of one of these), it's easier to work backwards. So let's do that: $sin{theta} = y/r$, so
              $$ p= r(1-sin{theta}) = r-y, $$
              so
              $$ x^2+y^2 = r^2 = (p+y)^2 = p^2+2py+y^2, $$
              and
              $$ x^2 = 2py+p^2. $$
              In particular, if we look more closely, we notice that
              $$ sqrt{x^2+y^2} = p+y $$
              is the definition of a parabola: the distance from $(0,0)$ to the point is the same as $y+p$, the distance from the horizontal line $y=-p$.






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              No, that can't work, because you've shown that these parabolae have different foci.



              Since there are lots of parabolae ($x^2=4ay$, $y^2=4ax$, any rotation and translation of one of these), it's easier to work backwards. So let's do that: $sin{theta} = y/r$, so
              $$ p= r(1-sin{theta}) = r-y, $$
              so
              $$ x^2+y^2 = r^2 = (p+y)^2 = p^2+2py+y^2, $$
              and
              $$ x^2 = 2py+p^2. $$
              In particular, if we look more closely, we notice that
              $$ sqrt{x^2+y^2} = p+y $$
              is the definition of a parabola: the distance from $(0,0)$ to the point is the same as $y+p$, the distance from the horizontal line $y=-p$.







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                  The equation of the parabola you want is



                  $$
                  y = frac{x^2}{2p} - frac{p}{2}
                  $$



                  Substituting



                  $$
                  x = r cos theta
                  $$
                  $$
                  y = r sin theta
                  $$



                  gives us



                  $$
                  frac{cos^2theta}{2p} r^2 - (sin theta) r - frac{p}{2} = 0
                  $$



                  If you solve this quadratic expression for $r$, and use the identity $sin^2theta + cos^2theta = 1$ twice, you should obtain the expression you want.






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                    The equation of the parabola you want is



                    $$
                    y = frac{x^2}{2p} - frac{p}{2}
                    $$



                    Substituting



                    $$
                    x = r cos theta
                    $$
                    $$
                    y = r sin theta
                    $$



                    gives us



                    $$
                    frac{cos^2theta}{2p} r^2 - (sin theta) r - frac{p}{2} = 0
                    $$



                    If you solve this quadratic expression for $r$, and use the identity $sin^2theta + cos^2theta = 1$ twice, you should obtain the expression you want.






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                      The equation of the parabola you want is



                      $$
                      y = frac{x^2}{2p} - frac{p}{2}
                      $$



                      Substituting



                      $$
                      x = r cos theta
                      $$
                      $$
                      y = r sin theta
                      $$



                      gives us



                      $$
                      frac{cos^2theta}{2p} r^2 - (sin theta) r - frac{p}{2} = 0
                      $$



                      If you solve this quadratic expression for $r$, and use the identity $sin^2theta + cos^2theta = 1$ twice, you should obtain the expression you want.






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                      The equation of the parabola you want is



                      $$
                      y = frac{x^2}{2p} - frac{p}{2}
                      $$



                      Substituting



                      $$
                      x = r cos theta
                      $$
                      $$
                      y = r sin theta
                      $$



                      gives us



                      $$
                      frac{cos^2theta}{2p} r^2 - (sin theta) r - frac{p}{2} = 0
                      $$



                      If you solve this quadratic expression for $r$, and use the identity $sin^2theta + cos^2theta = 1$ twice, you should obtain the expression you want.







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                          The equation for a parabola in the complex plane is



                          $$z=frac{1}{2}p(u+i)^2\
                          y=pu\
                          x=frac{1}{2}p(u^2-1)
                          $$



                          I think you would have to say



                          $$r=|z|\
                          theta=arg(z)$$



                          to get the true polar form.



                          Ref: Zwikker, C. (1968). The Advanced Geometry of Plane Curves and Their Applications, Dover Press.






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                            The equation for a parabola in the complex plane is



                            $$z=frac{1}{2}p(u+i)^2\
                            y=pu\
                            x=frac{1}{2}p(u^2-1)
                            $$



                            I think you would have to say



                            $$r=|z|\
                            theta=arg(z)$$



                            to get the true polar form.



                            Ref: Zwikker, C. (1968). The Advanced Geometry of Plane Curves and Their Applications, Dover Press.






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                              The equation for a parabola in the complex plane is



                              $$z=frac{1}{2}p(u+i)^2\
                              y=pu\
                              x=frac{1}{2}p(u^2-1)
                              $$



                              I think you would have to say



                              $$r=|z|\
                              theta=arg(z)$$



                              to get the true polar form.



                              Ref: Zwikker, C. (1968). The Advanced Geometry of Plane Curves and Their Applications, Dover Press.






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                              The equation for a parabola in the complex plane is



                              $$z=frac{1}{2}p(u+i)^2\
                              y=pu\
                              x=frac{1}{2}p(u^2-1)
                              $$



                              I think you would have to say



                              $$r=|z|\
                              theta=arg(z)$$



                              to get the true polar form.



                              Ref: Zwikker, C. (1968). The Advanced Geometry of Plane Curves and Their Applications, Dover Press.







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                                  For a parabola with $F(0,0)$ and directrix $y=-p$, first write a “distance equation” relating any point on the parabola, $P(x,y)$, to $F$ and to the directrix, $D$.



                                  A parabola can be defined by its locus: $distanceFP = distanceDP$.



                                  $distanceFP = sqrt{(x-0)^2+(y-0)^2} = sqrt{x^2+y^2}$



                                  $distanceDP = y-(-p) = y+p$



                                  So, for $P(x,y)$ on the parabola with $F(0,0)$ and directrix $y=-p$, we can write
                                  $$sqrt{x^2+y^2}=y+p …(1)$$
                                  For polar cords, we know that $x^2+y^2=r^2$, and $y=r sintheta$



                                  Therefore (1) becomes $$sqrt{r^2}=r sintheta + p$$
                                  $$r = r sintheta + p$$
                                  $$r – r sintheta = p$$
                                  $$r(1 – sintheta) = p$$
                                  Hence $$r = frac{p}{1 – sintheta}$$






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                                    For a parabola with $F(0,0)$ and directrix $y=-p$, first write a “distance equation” relating any point on the parabola, $P(x,y)$, to $F$ and to the directrix, $D$.



                                    A parabola can be defined by its locus: $distanceFP = distanceDP$.



                                    $distanceFP = sqrt{(x-0)^2+(y-0)^2} = sqrt{x^2+y^2}$



                                    $distanceDP = y-(-p) = y+p$



                                    So, for $P(x,y)$ on the parabola with $F(0,0)$ and directrix $y=-p$, we can write
                                    $$sqrt{x^2+y^2}=y+p …(1)$$
                                    For polar cords, we know that $x^2+y^2=r^2$, and $y=r sintheta$



                                    Therefore (1) becomes $$sqrt{r^2}=r sintheta + p$$
                                    $$r = r sintheta + p$$
                                    $$r – r sintheta = p$$
                                    $$r(1 – sintheta) = p$$
                                    Hence $$r = frac{p}{1 – sintheta}$$






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                                      For a parabola with $F(0,0)$ and directrix $y=-p$, first write a “distance equation” relating any point on the parabola, $P(x,y)$, to $F$ and to the directrix, $D$.



                                      A parabola can be defined by its locus: $distanceFP = distanceDP$.



                                      $distanceFP = sqrt{(x-0)^2+(y-0)^2} = sqrt{x^2+y^2}$



                                      $distanceDP = y-(-p) = y+p$



                                      So, for $P(x,y)$ on the parabola with $F(0,0)$ and directrix $y=-p$, we can write
                                      $$sqrt{x^2+y^2}=y+p …(1)$$
                                      For polar cords, we know that $x^2+y^2=r^2$, and $y=r sintheta$



                                      Therefore (1) becomes $$sqrt{r^2}=r sintheta + p$$
                                      $$r = r sintheta + p$$
                                      $$r – r sintheta = p$$
                                      $$r(1 – sintheta) = p$$
                                      Hence $$r = frac{p}{1 – sintheta}$$






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                                      For a parabola with $F(0,0)$ and directrix $y=-p$, first write a “distance equation” relating any point on the parabola, $P(x,y)$, to $F$ and to the directrix, $D$.



                                      A parabola can be defined by its locus: $distanceFP = distanceDP$.



                                      $distanceFP = sqrt{(x-0)^2+(y-0)^2} = sqrt{x^2+y^2}$



                                      $distanceDP = y-(-p) = y+p$



                                      So, for $P(x,y)$ on the parabola with $F(0,0)$ and directrix $y=-p$, we can write
                                      $$sqrt{x^2+y^2}=y+p …(1)$$
                                      For polar cords, we know that $x^2+y^2=r^2$, and $y=r sintheta$



                                      Therefore (1) becomes $$sqrt{r^2}=r sintheta + p$$
                                      $$r = r sintheta + p$$
                                      $$r – r sintheta = p$$
                                      $$r(1 – sintheta) = p$$
                                      Hence $$r = frac{p}{1 – sintheta}$$







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