Handling a subgroup of $S_{6}$ [closed]
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I came across with the following question:
Let $H={sigma in S_6 | sigma(x) textrm{ is odd if and only if } x textrm{ is odd}}$. Prove that $H$ has a normal subgroup $Y$ so $[H : Y ]=4$.
How should I prove this theorem?
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I came across with the following question:
Let $H={sigma in S_6 | sigma(x) textrm{ is odd if and only if } x textrm{ is odd}}$. Prove that $H$ has a normal subgroup $Y$ so $[H : Y ]=4$.
How should I prove this theorem?
group-theory
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Try to understand $H$ a little. For example, what is its order?
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I came across with the following question:
Let $H={sigma in S_6 | sigma(x) textrm{ is odd if and only if } x textrm{ is odd}}$. Prove that $H$ has a normal subgroup $Y$ so $[H : Y ]=4$.
How should I prove this theorem?
group-theory
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I came across with the following question:
Let $H={sigma in S_6 | sigma(x) textrm{ is odd if and only if } x textrm{ is odd}}$. Prove that $H$ has a normal subgroup $Y$ so $[H : Y ]=4$.
How should I prove this theorem?
group-theory
group-theory
edited Jan 10 at 20:34
Sam Hughes
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asked Jan 8 at 0:47
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Try to understand $H$ a little. For example, what is its order?
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Try to understand $H$ a little. For example, what is its order?
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Try to understand $H$ a little. For example, what is its order?
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I'll separate the steps into spoilers so you can use them as hints
The set $H$:
First we need to understand the set $H$, we know that a permutation in $Sym(6)$ moves points in the set $Omega:={1,2,3,4,5,6}$. Now, $H$ is defined to be the set of points which fix the subset $Lambda:={1,3,5}$ of odd integers setwise.
The group $H$:
The elements of $Sym(6)$ which fix $Lambda$ setwise are exactly the permutations that permute elements of $Lambda$, that is, $Sym(Lambda)=Sym({1,3,5})$ and the elements which permute $Gamma:={2,4,6}$, these are exactly the elements in $Sym(Gamma)$. Since no element of $Gamma$ can be sent to an element of $Lambda$ we conclude $H$ is the direct product $Sym(Lambda)times Sym(Gamma)cong Sym(3)times Sym(3)$.
The normal subgroup:
First we recall that $Sym(3)$ has a normal subgroup isomorphic to $C_3:=mathbb{Z}_3$ so we deduce that $N_1:=langle(135)rangle$ is normal in $Sym(Lambda)$ and $N_2:=langle(246)rangle$ is normal in $Sym(Gamma)$. As these are normal subgroups in different factors of the direct product we conclude there is a normal subgroup $N:=N_1times N_2$ in $H$.
The order:
A quick calculation gives $|H|=6*6=36$ and $|N|=3*3=9$. Therefore $|H:N|=4$.
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Great, thank you! How to compute $[S_6 : G cap A_6]$?
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Hint: for permutations of $H$, you can separate their action on odd and even integers. Thus $H cong S_3 times S_3$.
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I'll separate the steps into spoilers so you can use them as hints
The set $H$:
First we need to understand the set $H$, we know that a permutation in $Sym(6)$ moves points in the set $Omega:={1,2,3,4,5,6}$. Now, $H$ is defined to be the set of points which fix the subset $Lambda:={1,3,5}$ of odd integers setwise.
The group $H$:
The elements of $Sym(6)$ which fix $Lambda$ setwise are exactly the permutations that permute elements of $Lambda$, that is, $Sym(Lambda)=Sym({1,3,5})$ and the elements which permute $Gamma:={2,4,6}$, these are exactly the elements in $Sym(Gamma)$. Since no element of $Gamma$ can be sent to an element of $Lambda$ we conclude $H$ is the direct product $Sym(Lambda)times Sym(Gamma)cong Sym(3)times Sym(3)$.
The normal subgroup:
First we recall that $Sym(3)$ has a normal subgroup isomorphic to $C_3:=mathbb{Z}_3$ so we deduce that $N_1:=langle(135)rangle$ is normal in $Sym(Lambda)$ and $N_2:=langle(246)rangle$ is normal in $Sym(Gamma)$. As these are normal subgroups in different factors of the direct product we conclude there is a normal subgroup $N:=N_1times N_2$ in $H$.
The order:
A quick calculation gives $|H|=6*6=36$ and $|N|=3*3=9$. Therefore $|H:N|=4$.
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Great, thank you! How to compute $[S_6 : G cap A_6]$?
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– abuka123
Jan 12 at 18:39
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I'll separate the steps into spoilers so you can use them as hints
The set $H$:
First we need to understand the set $H$, we know that a permutation in $Sym(6)$ moves points in the set $Omega:={1,2,3,4,5,6}$. Now, $H$ is defined to be the set of points which fix the subset $Lambda:={1,3,5}$ of odd integers setwise.
The group $H$:
The elements of $Sym(6)$ which fix $Lambda$ setwise are exactly the permutations that permute elements of $Lambda$, that is, $Sym(Lambda)=Sym({1,3,5})$ and the elements which permute $Gamma:={2,4,6}$, these are exactly the elements in $Sym(Gamma)$. Since no element of $Gamma$ can be sent to an element of $Lambda$ we conclude $H$ is the direct product $Sym(Lambda)times Sym(Gamma)cong Sym(3)times Sym(3)$.
The normal subgroup:
First we recall that $Sym(3)$ has a normal subgroup isomorphic to $C_3:=mathbb{Z}_3$ so we deduce that $N_1:=langle(135)rangle$ is normal in $Sym(Lambda)$ and $N_2:=langle(246)rangle$ is normal in $Sym(Gamma)$. As these are normal subgroups in different factors of the direct product we conclude there is a normal subgroup $N:=N_1times N_2$ in $H$.
The order:
A quick calculation gives $|H|=6*6=36$ and $|N|=3*3=9$. Therefore $|H:N|=4$.
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Great, thank you! How to compute $[S_6 : G cap A_6]$?
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– abuka123
Jan 12 at 18:39
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I'll separate the steps into spoilers so you can use them as hints
The set $H$:
First we need to understand the set $H$, we know that a permutation in $Sym(6)$ moves points in the set $Omega:={1,2,3,4,5,6}$. Now, $H$ is defined to be the set of points which fix the subset $Lambda:={1,3,5}$ of odd integers setwise.
The group $H$:
The elements of $Sym(6)$ which fix $Lambda$ setwise are exactly the permutations that permute elements of $Lambda$, that is, $Sym(Lambda)=Sym({1,3,5})$ and the elements which permute $Gamma:={2,4,6}$, these are exactly the elements in $Sym(Gamma)$. Since no element of $Gamma$ can be sent to an element of $Lambda$ we conclude $H$ is the direct product $Sym(Lambda)times Sym(Gamma)cong Sym(3)times Sym(3)$.
The normal subgroup:
First we recall that $Sym(3)$ has a normal subgroup isomorphic to $C_3:=mathbb{Z}_3$ so we deduce that $N_1:=langle(135)rangle$ is normal in $Sym(Lambda)$ and $N_2:=langle(246)rangle$ is normal in $Sym(Gamma)$. As these are normal subgroups in different factors of the direct product we conclude there is a normal subgroup $N:=N_1times N_2$ in $H$.
The order:
A quick calculation gives $|H|=6*6=36$ and $|N|=3*3=9$. Therefore $|H:N|=4$.
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I'll separate the steps into spoilers so you can use them as hints
The set $H$:
First we need to understand the set $H$, we know that a permutation in $Sym(6)$ moves points in the set $Omega:={1,2,3,4,5,6}$. Now, $H$ is defined to be the set of points which fix the subset $Lambda:={1,3,5}$ of odd integers setwise.
The group $H$:
The elements of $Sym(6)$ which fix $Lambda$ setwise are exactly the permutations that permute elements of $Lambda$, that is, $Sym(Lambda)=Sym({1,3,5})$ and the elements which permute $Gamma:={2,4,6}$, these are exactly the elements in $Sym(Gamma)$. Since no element of $Gamma$ can be sent to an element of $Lambda$ we conclude $H$ is the direct product $Sym(Lambda)times Sym(Gamma)cong Sym(3)times Sym(3)$.
The normal subgroup:
First we recall that $Sym(3)$ has a normal subgroup isomorphic to $C_3:=mathbb{Z}_3$ so we deduce that $N_1:=langle(135)rangle$ is normal in $Sym(Lambda)$ and $N_2:=langle(246)rangle$ is normal in $Sym(Gamma)$. As these are normal subgroups in different factors of the direct product we conclude there is a normal subgroup $N:=N_1times N_2$ in $H$.
The order:
A quick calculation gives $|H|=6*6=36$ and $|N|=3*3=9$. Therefore $|H:N|=4$.
edited Jan 13 at 21:11
answered Jan 8 at 16:03
Sam HughesSam Hughes
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Great, thank you! How to compute $[S_6 : G cap A_6]$?
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– abuka123
Jan 12 at 18:39
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Great, thank you! How to compute $[S_6 : G cap A_6]$?
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– abuka123
Jan 12 at 18:39
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Great, thank you! How to compute $[S_6 : G cap A_6]$?
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– abuka123
Jan 12 at 18:39
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Great, thank you! How to compute $[S_6 : G cap A_6]$?
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– abuka123
Jan 12 at 18:39
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Hint: for permutations of $H$, you can separate their action on odd and even integers. Thus $H cong S_3 times S_3$.
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add a comment |
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Hint: for permutations of $H$, you can separate their action on odd and even integers. Thus $H cong S_3 times S_3$.
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add a comment |
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Hint: for permutations of $H$, you can separate their action on odd and even integers. Thus $H cong S_3 times S_3$.
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Hint: for permutations of $H$, you can separate their action on odd and even integers. Thus $H cong S_3 times S_3$.
answered Jan 8 at 0:50
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Try to understand $H$ a little. For example, what is its order?
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– verret
Jan 8 at 20:28