No onto map between group algebras $FS_5$ onto $M_6(F)$.












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I have to prove that there does not exist a surjective group algebra homomorphism from $FS_5$(the group algebra of the symmetric grpoup, $S_5$, over the field $F$) to $M_6(F)$, where $F$ is the field $mathbb{Z}_2$ and $M_6(F)$ denotes the matrix algebra of $6times 6$ matrices over the field $F$.




I have no idea how to prove it exactly. I am thinking which matrix doesn’t comes in range if particular map is defined. The dimension of domain algebra also bigger one. I already have link of the problem Artin-Wedderburn decomposition of $mathbb{F}_2[S_5]/J$. But I do not know representation theory. Please give me a suggestion that does not use representation theory. Thanks.










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    Can you recall what $FS_5$ is?
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    – mathcounterexamples.net
    Jan 1 at 5:22






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    I think the group algebra on the symmetric group $S_5$ over the field $F$.
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    – mouthetics
    Jan 1 at 5:48










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    @mathcounterexamples.net Yes i think i already told about group algebra...
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    – neelkanth
    Jan 1 at 5:53






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    If there was such a map, there would have to be an irreducible six-dimensional representation of $S_5$ over $F$. Can you determine the dimensions of the irreducible representations?
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    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Jan 1 at 6:37










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    @LordSharktheUnknown I am not having knowledge of Representation theory...
    $endgroup$
    – neelkanth
    Jan 1 at 6:38
















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I have to prove that there does not exist a surjective group algebra homomorphism from $FS_5$(the group algebra of the symmetric grpoup, $S_5$, over the field $F$) to $M_6(F)$, where $F$ is the field $mathbb{Z}_2$ and $M_6(F)$ denotes the matrix algebra of $6times 6$ matrices over the field $F$.




I have no idea how to prove it exactly. I am thinking which matrix doesn’t comes in range if particular map is defined. The dimension of domain algebra also bigger one. I already have link of the problem Artin-Wedderburn decomposition of $mathbb{F}_2[S_5]/J$. But I do not know representation theory. Please give me a suggestion that does not use representation theory. Thanks.










share|cite|improve this question











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  • $begingroup$
    Can you recall what $FS_5$ is?
    $endgroup$
    – mathcounterexamples.net
    Jan 1 at 5:22






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I think the group algebra on the symmetric group $S_5$ over the field $F$.
    $endgroup$
    – mouthetics
    Jan 1 at 5:48










  • $begingroup$
    @mathcounterexamples.net Yes i think i already told about group algebra...
    $endgroup$
    – neelkanth
    Jan 1 at 5:53






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    If there was such a map, there would have to be an irreducible six-dimensional representation of $S_5$ over $F$. Can you determine the dimensions of the irreducible representations?
    $endgroup$
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Jan 1 at 6:37










  • $begingroup$
    @LordSharktheUnknown I am not having knowledge of Representation theory...
    $endgroup$
    – neelkanth
    Jan 1 at 6:38














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$begingroup$



I have to prove that there does not exist a surjective group algebra homomorphism from $FS_5$(the group algebra of the symmetric grpoup, $S_5$, over the field $F$) to $M_6(F)$, where $F$ is the field $mathbb{Z}_2$ and $M_6(F)$ denotes the matrix algebra of $6times 6$ matrices over the field $F$.




I have no idea how to prove it exactly. I am thinking which matrix doesn’t comes in range if particular map is defined. The dimension of domain algebra also bigger one. I already have link of the problem Artin-Wedderburn decomposition of $mathbb{F}_2[S_5]/J$. But I do not know representation theory. Please give me a suggestion that does not use representation theory. Thanks.










share|cite|improve this question











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I have to prove that there does not exist a surjective group algebra homomorphism from $FS_5$(the group algebra of the symmetric grpoup, $S_5$, over the field $F$) to $M_6(F)$, where $F$ is the field $mathbb{Z}_2$ and $M_6(F)$ denotes the matrix algebra of $6times 6$ matrices over the field $F$.




I have no idea how to prove it exactly. I am thinking which matrix doesn’t comes in range if particular map is defined. The dimension of domain algebra also bigger one. I already have link of the problem Artin-Wedderburn decomposition of $mathbb{F}_2[S_5]/J$. But I do not know representation theory. Please give me a suggestion that does not use representation theory. Thanks.







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  • $begingroup$
    Can you recall what $FS_5$ is?
    $endgroup$
    – mathcounterexamples.net
    Jan 1 at 5:22






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I think the group algebra on the symmetric group $S_5$ over the field $F$.
    $endgroup$
    – mouthetics
    Jan 1 at 5:48










  • $begingroup$
    @mathcounterexamples.net Yes i think i already told about group algebra...
    $endgroup$
    – neelkanth
    Jan 1 at 5:53






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    If there was such a map, there would have to be an irreducible six-dimensional representation of $S_5$ over $F$. Can you determine the dimensions of the irreducible representations?
    $endgroup$
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Jan 1 at 6:37










  • $begingroup$
    @LordSharktheUnknown I am not having knowledge of Representation theory...
    $endgroup$
    – neelkanth
    Jan 1 at 6:38


















  • $begingroup$
    Can you recall what $FS_5$ is?
    $endgroup$
    – mathcounterexamples.net
    Jan 1 at 5:22






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I think the group algebra on the symmetric group $S_5$ over the field $F$.
    $endgroup$
    – mouthetics
    Jan 1 at 5:48










  • $begingroup$
    @mathcounterexamples.net Yes i think i already told about group algebra...
    $endgroup$
    – neelkanth
    Jan 1 at 5:53






  • 3




    $begingroup$
    If there was such a map, there would have to be an irreducible six-dimensional representation of $S_5$ over $F$. Can you determine the dimensions of the irreducible representations?
    $endgroup$
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Jan 1 at 6:37










  • $begingroup$
    @LordSharktheUnknown I am not having knowledge of Representation theory...
    $endgroup$
    – neelkanth
    Jan 1 at 6:38
















$begingroup$
Can you recall what $FS_5$ is?
$endgroup$
– mathcounterexamples.net
Jan 1 at 5:22




$begingroup$
Can you recall what $FS_5$ is?
$endgroup$
– mathcounterexamples.net
Jan 1 at 5:22




1




1




$begingroup$
I think the group algebra on the symmetric group $S_5$ over the field $F$.
$endgroup$
– mouthetics
Jan 1 at 5:48




$begingroup$
I think the group algebra on the symmetric group $S_5$ over the field $F$.
$endgroup$
– mouthetics
Jan 1 at 5:48












$begingroup$
@mathcounterexamples.net Yes i think i already told about group algebra...
$endgroup$
– neelkanth
Jan 1 at 5:53




$begingroup$
@mathcounterexamples.net Yes i think i already told about group algebra...
$endgroup$
– neelkanth
Jan 1 at 5:53




3




3




$begingroup$
If there was such a map, there would have to be an irreducible six-dimensional representation of $S_5$ over $F$. Can you determine the dimensions of the irreducible representations?
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jan 1 at 6:37




$begingroup$
If there was such a map, there would have to be an irreducible six-dimensional representation of $S_5$ over $F$. Can you determine the dimensions of the irreducible representations?
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jan 1 at 6:37












$begingroup$
@LordSharktheUnknown I am not having knowledge of Representation theory...
$endgroup$
– neelkanth
Jan 1 at 6:38




$begingroup$
@LordSharktheUnknown I am not having knowledge of Representation theory...
$endgroup$
– neelkanth
Jan 1 at 6:38










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