Generalisation of prime numbers to matrices?
Is it possible to generalise prime numbers to matrices? I'm trying to solve a Rubix cube in the minimum number of steps and I think this would be useful. I think it's possible to represent Rubix cube operations in the language of linear algebra or matrices. From there, maybe I can represent a solution of the Rubix cube as a product of matrices. Transforming a product of matrices into its minimum decomposition (this is where the prime version of matrices come in) should provide a 'minimum' solution.
Disclosure: this is just my intuition and I understand completely if what I just wrote doesn't make much sense).
linear-algebra matrices elementary-number-theory prime-numbers
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Is it possible to generalise prime numbers to matrices? I'm trying to solve a Rubix cube in the minimum number of steps and I think this would be useful. I think it's possible to represent Rubix cube operations in the language of linear algebra or matrices. From there, maybe I can represent a solution of the Rubix cube as a product of matrices. Transforming a product of matrices into its minimum decomposition (this is where the prime version of matrices come in) should provide a 'minimum' solution.
Disclosure: this is just my intuition and I understand completely if what I just wrote doesn't make much sense).
linear-algebra matrices elementary-number-theory prime-numbers
edited Dec 17 '18 at 17:52
user10354138
7,4122824
asked Apr 26 '17 at 2:19
Christian
258111
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Do you know about rings?
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:22
1
I see, I don't have the time to write an answer right now, but generally "prime numbers" are with respect to the number system you are working in - so prime numbers make sense in the integers, but prime numbers in the rationals don't make sense, even though the integers are contained in the rationals. These number systems are called rings, and usually matrices form a ring, called a matrix ring. So what you want are the prime elements of a matrix ring.
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:29
1
However, I should note that prime elements really only make sense in the case that your ring has commutative multiplication. Most matrix rings don't have commutative multiplication, though.
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:31
8
I suspect that the abstract mathematics you are trying to invent is an application of group theory, not ring theory. Search group theory rubik cube and you'll find several links. Here's one: math.harvard.edu/~jjchen/docs/…
– Ethan Bolker
Apr 26 '17 at 2:34
4
@Christian on a more fundamental note: finding a scheme to represent Rubik manipulations with matrices is called finding a representation of the Rubik's cube group
– Omnomnomnom
Apr 26 '17 at 2:34
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Is it possible to generalise prime numbers to matrices? I'm trying to solve a Rubix cube in the minimum number of steps and I think this would be useful. I think it's possible to represent Rubix cube operations in the language of linear algebra or matrices. From there, maybe I can represent a solution of the Rubix cube as a product of matrices. Transforming a product of matrices into its minimum decomposition (this is where the prime version of matrices come in) should provide a 'minimum' solution.
Disclosure: this is just my intuition and I understand completely if what I just wrote doesn't make much sense).
linear-algebra matrices elementary-number-theory prime-numbers
edited Dec 17 '18 at 17:52
user10354138
7,4122824
asked Apr 26 '17 at 2:19
Christian
258111
Is it possible to generalise prime numbers to matrices? I'm trying to solve a Rubix cube in the minimum number of steps and I think this would be useful. I think it's possible to represent Rubix cube operations in the language of linear algebra or matrices. From there, maybe I can represent a solution of the Rubix cube as a product of matrices. Transforming a product of matrices into its minimum decomposition (this is where the prime version of matrices come in) should provide a 'minimum' solution.
Disclosure: this is just my intuition and I understand completely if what I just wrote doesn't make much sense).
linear-algebra matrices elementary-number-theory prime-numbers
linear-algebra matrices elementary-number-theory prime-numbers
edited Dec 17 '18 at 17:52
user10354138
7,4122824
asked Apr 26 '17 at 2:19
Christian
258111
edited Dec 17 '18 at 17:52
user10354138
7,4122824
asked Apr 26 '17 at 2:19
Christian
258111
edited Dec 17 '18 at 17:52
user10354138
7,4122824
edited Dec 17 '18 at 17:52
user10354138
7,4122824
edited Dec 17 '18 at 17:52
user10354138
7,4122824
7,4122824
asked Apr 26 '17 at 2:19
Christian
258111
asked Apr 26 '17 at 2:19
Christian
258111
asked Apr 26 '17 at 2:19
Christian
258111
258111
6
Do you know about rings?
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:22
1
I see, I don't have the time to write an answer right now, but generally "prime numbers" are with respect to the number system you are working in - so prime numbers make sense in the integers, but prime numbers in the rationals don't make sense, even though the integers are contained in the rationals. These number systems are called rings, and usually matrices form a ring, called a matrix ring. So what you want are the prime elements of a matrix ring.
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:29
1
However, I should note that prime elements really only make sense in the case that your ring has commutative multiplication. Most matrix rings don't have commutative multiplication, though.
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:31
8
I suspect that the abstract mathematics you are trying to invent is an application of group theory, not ring theory. Search group theory rubik cube and you'll find several links. Here's one: math.harvard.edu/~jjchen/docs/…
– Ethan Bolker
Apr 26 '17 at 2:34
4
@Christian on a more fundamental note: finding a scheme to represent Rubik manipulations with matrices is called finding a representation of the Rubik's cube group
– Omnomnomnom
Apr 26 '17 at 2:34
|
show 8 more comments
6
Do you know about rings?
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:22
1
I see, I don't have the time to write an answer right now, but generally "prime numbers" are with respect to the number system you are working in - so prime numbers make sense in the integers, but prime numbers in the rationals don't make sense, even though the integers are contained in the rationals. These number systems are called rings, and usually matrices form a ring, called a matrix ring. So what you want are the prime elements of a matrix ring.
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:29
1
However, I should note that prime elements really only make sense in the case that your ring has commutative multiplication. Most matrix rings don't have commutative multiplication, though.
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:31
8
I suspect that the abstract mathematics you are trying to invent is an application of group theory, not ring theory. Search group theory rubik cube and you'll find several links. Here's one: math.harvard.edu/~jjchen/docs/…
– Ethan Bolker
Apr 26 '17 at 2:34
4
@Christian on a more fundamental note: finding a scheme to represent Rubik manipulations with matrices is called finding a representation of the Rubik's cube group
– Omnomnomnom
Apr 26 '17 at 2:34
6
6
Do you know about rings?
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:22
Do you know about rings?
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:22
1
1
I see, I don't have the time to write an answer right now, but generally "prime numbers" are with respect to the number system you are working in - so prime numbers make sense in the integers, but prime numbers in the rationals don't make sense, even though the integers are contained in the rationals. These number systems are called rings, and usually matrices form a ring, called a matrix ring. So what you want are the prime elements of a matrix ring.
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:29
I see, I don't have the time to write an answer right now, but generally "prime numbers" are with respect to the number system you are working in - so prime numbers make sense in the integers, but prime numbers in the rationals don't make sense, even though the integers are contained in the rationals. These number systems are called rings, and usually matrices form a ring, called a matrix ring. So what you want are the prime elements of a matrix ring.
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:29
1
1
However, I should note that prime elements really only make sense in the case that your ring has commutative multiplication. Most matrix rings don't have commutative multiplication, though.
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:31
However, I should note that prime elements really only make sense in the case that your ring has commutative multiplication. Most matrix rings don't have commutative multiplication, though.
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:31
8
8
I suspect that the abstract mathematics you are trying to invent is an application of group theory, not ring theory. Search group theory rubik cube and you'll find several links. Here's one: math.harvard.edu/~jjchen/docs/…
– Ethan Bolker
Apr 26 '17 at 2:34
I suspect that the abstract mathematics you are trying to invent is an application of group theory, not ring theory. Search group theory rubik cube and you'll find several links. Here's one: math.harvard.edu/~jjchen/docs/…
– Ethan Bolker
Apr 26 '17 at 2:34
4
4
@Christian on a more fundamental note: finding a scheme to represent Rubik manipulations with matrices is called finding a representation of the Rubik's cube group
– Omnomnomnom
Apr 26 '17 at 2:34
@Christian on a more fundamental note: finding a scheme to represent Rubik manipulations with matrices is called finding a representation of the Rubik's cube group
– Omnomnomnom
Apr 26 '17 at 2:34
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One peculiar connection between primes and matrix products is through the definition of a so called dynamical zeta function . I am not sure this is what you are looking for, but it may give you some ideas. Here is an explicit application to products of matrices https://arxiv.org/abs/chao-dyn/9301001
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One peculiar connection between primes and matrix products is through the definition of a so called dynamical zeta function . I am not sure this is what you are looking for, but it may give you some ideas. Here is an explicit application to products of matrices https://arxiv.org/abs/chao-dyn/9301001
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One peculiar connection between primes and matrix products is through the definition of a so called dynamical zeta function . I am not sure this is what you are looking for, but it may give you some ideas. Here is an explicit application to products of matrices https://arxiv.org/abs/chao-dyn/9301001
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One peculiar connection between primes and matrix products is through the definition of a so called dynamical zeta function . I am not sure this is what you are looking for, but it may give you some ideas. Here is an explicit application to products of matrices https://arxiv.org/abs/chao-dyn/9301001
answered Dec 27 '18 at 14:31
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One peculiar connection between primes and matrix products is through the definition of a so called dynamical zeta function . I am not sure this is what you are looking for, but it may give you some ideas. Here is an explicit application to products of matrices https://arxiv.org/abs/chao-dyn/9301001
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Do you know about rings?
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:22
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I see, I don't have the time to write an answer right now, but generally "prime numbers" are with respect to the number system you are working in - so prime numbers make sense in the integers, but prime numbers in the rationals don't make sense, even though the integers are contained in the rationals. These number systems are called rings, and usually matrices form a ring, called a matrix ring. So what you want are the prime elements of a matrix ring.
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:29
1
However, I should note that prime elements really only make sense in the case that your ring has commutative multiplication. Most matrix rings don't have commutative multiplication, though.
– Juan Sebastian Lozano
Apr 26 '17 at 2:31
8
I suspect that the abstract mathematics you are trying to invent is an application of group theory, not ring theory. Search group theory rubik cube and you'll find several links. Here's one: math.harvard.edu/~jjchen/docs/…
– Ethan Bolker
Apr 26 '17 at 2:34
4
@Christian on a more fundamental note: finding a scheme to represent Rubik manipulations with matrices is called finding a representation of the Rubik's cube group
– Omnomnomnom
Apr 26 '17 at 2:34