Chebyshev polynomials and trace of $A in SL_2(mathbb{C})$












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Defining $C_n(z) = frac{z^m + z^{-m}}{2}$, the Chebyshev polynomials are defined by



$$T_n(C_1(z)) = C_n(z)$$
and are given by $T_1(z) = z, T_2(z) = 2z^2-1, T_3(z) = 4z^3-3z$, etc. Since for $z=e^{itheta}$ we have $C_1(z) = costheta$, they also satisfy



$$T_n(costheta) = cos(ntheta)$$



thereby generalizing the double angle trig identity.




The notes I'm reading also claim $$T_n(text{tr } A/2) = text{tr } (A^n/2)$$ for $A in SL_2(mathbb{C})$. Why does this follow?



Attempt: if $A= begin{pmatrix} a&b \ c &d end{pmatrix}$ then choosing $z=frac12(sqrt{(a+d)^2-4}- (a+d))$ implies $C_1(z) = text{tr }A/2$, but then $T_n(C_1(z)) = frac{z^n+z^{-n}}{2}$ does not simplify as far as I see to $text{tr} A^n/2$.










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    Note that the trace of $A$ is the sum of its eigenvalues and the product of its eigenvalues is by definition $1$.
    – WimC
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  • @WimC thanks, that resolves it
    – Dwagg
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Defining $C_n(z) = frac{z^m + z^{-m}}{2}$, the Chebyshev polynomials are defined by



$$T_n(C_1(z)) = C_n(z)$$
and are given by $T_1(z) = z, T_2(z) = 2z^2-1, T_3(z) = 4z^3-3z$, etc. Since for $z=e^{itheta}$ we have $C_1(z) = costheta$, they also satisfy



$$T_n(costheta) = cos(ntheta)$$



thereby generalizing the double angle trig identity.




The notes I'm reading also claim $$T_n(text{tr } A/2) = text{tr } (A^n/2)$$ for $A in SL_2(mathbb{C})$. Why does this follow?



Attempt: if $A= begin{pmatrix} a&b \ c &d end{pmatrix}$ then choosing $z=frac12(sqrt{(a+d)^2-4}- (a+d))$ implies $C_1(z) = text{tr }A/2$, but then $T_n(C_1(z)) = frac{z^n+z^{-n}}{2}$ does not simplify as far as I see to $text{tr} A^n/2$.










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  • 1




    Note that the trace of $A$ is the sum of its eigenvalues and the product of its eigenvalues is by definition $1$.
    – WimC
    2 days ago










  • @WimC thanks, that resolves it
    – Dwagg
    2 days ago














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Defining $C_n(z) = frac{z^m + z^{-m}}{2}$, the Chebyshev polynomials are defined by



$$T_n(C_1(z)) = C_n(z)$$
and are given by $T_1(z) = z, T_2(z) = 2z^2-1, T_3(z) = 4z^3-3z$, etc. Since for $z=e^{itheta}$ we have $C_1(z) = costheta$, they also satisfy



$$T_n(costheta) = cos(ntheta)$$



thereby generalizing the double angle trig identity.




The notes I'm reading also claim $$T_n(text{tr } A/2) = text{tr } (A^n/2)$$ for $A in SL_2(mathbb{C})$. Why does this follow?



Attempt: if $A= begin{pmatrix} a&b \ c &d end{pmatrix}$ then choosing $z=frac12(sqrt{(a+d)^2-4}- (a+d))$ implies $C_1(z) = text{tr }A/2$, but then $T_n(C_1(z)) = frac{z^n+z^{-n}}{2}$ does not simplify as far as I see to $text{tr} A^n/2$.










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Defining $C_n(z) = frac{z^m + z^{-m}}{2}$, the Chebyshev polynomials are defined by



$$T_n(C_1(z)) = C_n(z)$$
and are given by $T_1(z) = z, T_2(z) = 2z^2-1, T_3(z) = 4z^3-3z$, etc. Since for $z=e^{itheta}$ we have $C_1(z) = costheta$, they also satisfy



$$T_n(costheta) = cos(ntheta)$$



thereby generalizing the double angle trig identity.




The notes I'm reading also claim $$T_n(text{tr } A/2) = text{tr } (A^n/2)$$ for $A in SL_2(mathbb{C})$. Why does this follow?



Attempt: if $A= begin{pmatrix} a&b \ c &d end{pmatrix}$ then choosing $z=frac12(sqrt{(a+d)^2-4}- (a+d))$ implies $C_1(z) = text{tr }A/2$, but then $T_n(C_1(z)) = frac{z^n+z^{-n}}{2}$ does not simplify as far as I see to $text{tr} A^n/2$.







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    Note that the trace of $A$ is the sum of its eigenvalues and the product of its eigenvalues is by definition $1$.
    – WimC
    2 days ago










  • @WimC thanks, that resolves it
    – Dwagg
    2 days ago














  • 1




    Note that the trace of $A$ is the sum of its eigenvalues and the product of its eigenvalues is by definition $1$.
    – WimC
    2 days ago










  • @WimC thanks, that resolves it
    – Dwagg
    2 days ago








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Note that the trace of $A$ is the sum of its eigenvalues and the product of its eigenvalues is by definition $1$.
– WimC
2 days ago




Note that the trace of $A$ is the sum of its eigenvalues and the product of its eigenvalues is by definition $1$.
– WimC
2 days ago












@WimC thanks, that resolves it
– Dwagg
2 days ago




@WimC thanks, that resolves it
– Dwagg
2 days ago










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I found several sources with a proof, e.g., the paper by Francis Bonahon, Lemma $8$ on page $9$, using Cayley-Hamilton. Another interesting reference is the paper by Traina on trace polynomials for $SL_2(Bbb{C})$.






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    I found several sources with a proof, e.g., the paper by Francis Bonahon, Lemma $8$ on page $9$, using Cayley-Hamilton. Another interesting reference is the paper by Traina on trace polynomials for $SL_2(Bbb{C})$.






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      I found several sources with a proof, e.g., the paper by Francis Bonahon, Lemma $8$ on page $9$, using Cayley-Hamilton. Another interesting reference is the paper by Traina on trace polynomials for $SL_2(Bbb{C})$.






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        I found several sources with a proof, e.g., the paper by Francis Bonahon, Lemma $8$ on page $9$, using Cayley-Hamilton. Another interesting reference is the paper by Traina on trace polynomials for $SL_2(Bbb{C})$.






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        I found several sources with a proof, e.g., the paper by Francis Bonahon, Lemma $8$ on page $9$, using Cayley-Hamilton. Another interesting reference is the paper by Traina on trace polynomials for $SL_2(Bbb{C})$.







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