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as following a proof from a book it state as(please see pic if still confusing):



since lim ->∞ (f(n)/g(n)) = c >0, it follows from the definition of a limit that there is some n0 beyond which the ration is always between 1/2 c and 2c. Thus, f(n) <2cg(n) for all n >= n0, which implies that f(n) = O(g(n));



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    as following a proof from a book it state as(please see pic if still confusing):



    since lim ->∞ (f(n)/g(n)) = c >0, it follows from the definition of a limit that there is some n0 beyond which the ration is always between 1/2 c and 2c. Thus, f(n) <2cg(n) for all n >= n0, which implies that f(n) = O(g(n));



    Can someone please explain a bit why there is some n0 beyond which the ratio is always between 1/2c and 2c ? enter image description here










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      as following a proof from a book it state as(please see pic if still confusing):



      since lim ->∞ (f(n)/g(n)) = c >0, it follows from the definition of a limit that there is some n0 beyond which the ration is always between 1/2 c and 2c. Thus, f(n) <2cg(n) for all n >= n0, which implies that f(n) = O(g(n));



      Can someone please explain a bit why there is some n0 beyond which the ratio is always between 1/2c and 2c ? enter image description here










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      as following a proof from a book it state as(please see pic if still confusing):



      since lim ->∞ (f(n)/g(n)) = c >0, it follows from the definition of a limit that there is some n0 beyond which the ration is always between 1/2 c and 2c. Thus, f(n) <2cg(n) for all n >= n0, which implies that f(n) = O(g(n));



      Can someone please explain a bit why there is some n0 beyond which the ratio is always between 1/2c and 2c ? enter image description here







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          That's the very definition of $lim_{nto infty} h(n) = c$.



          That means for any value $epsilon > 0$ we can find some value $n_0$ so that for all $n > n_0$ ir will always be then case that $c-epsilon < h(n) < c +epsilon$.



          There's nothing to explain why, because that is what $lim_{nto infty} h(n) = c$ means.



          So $lim_{nto infty} frac {f(n)}{g(n)} = c$ then we can find for ANY $epsilon > 0$, in particular for $epsilon = frac 12 c$, there is some $n_0$ so that for all $n > n_0$ we will always have:



          $c - epsilon < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < c + epsilon$ so



          $c - frac 12 c < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < c + frac 12c $ so



          $frac 12 c < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < frac 32c < 2c$






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          This is just a quick and dirty version of an $epsilontext{-}delta$ argument; the fact that $c>0$ means that $epsilon_1=c/2>0$ and $epsilon_2=c>0$ are both valid "choices" for the limit definition, and then the rest falls into place.






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            That's the very definition of $lim_{nto infty} h(n) = c$.



            That means for any value $epsilon > 0$ we can find some value $n_0$ so that for all $n > n_0$ ir will always be then case that $c-epsilon < h(n) < c +epsilon$.



            There's nothing to explain why, because that is what $lim_{nto infty} h(n) = c$ means.



            So $lim_{nto infty} frac {f(n)}{g(n)} = c$ then we can find for ANY $epsilon > 0$, in particular for $epsilon = frac 12 c$, there is some $n_0$ so that for all $n > n_0$ we will always have:



            $c - epsilon < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < c + epsilon$ so



            $c - frac 12 c < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < c + frac 12c $ so



            $frac 12 c < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < frac 32c < 2c$






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            • typo ? it will instead of ir will ?
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            That's the very definition of $lim_{nto infty} h(n) = c$.



            That means for any value $epsilon > 0$ we can find some value $n_0$ so that for all $n > n_0$ ir will always be then case that $c-epsilon < h(n) < c +epsilon$.



            There's nothing to explain why, because that is what $lim_{nto infty} h(n) = c$ means.



            So $lim_{nto infty} frac {f(n)}{g(n)} = c$ then we can find for ANY $epsilon > 0$, in particular for $epsilon = frac 12 c$, there is some $n_0$ so that for all $n > n_0$ we will always have:



            $c - epsilon < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < c + epsilon$ so



            $c - frac 12 c < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < c + frac 12c $ so



            $frac 12 c < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < frac 32c < 2c$






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            That's the very definition of $lim_{nto infty} h(n) = c$.



            That means for any value $epsilon > 0$ we can find some value $n_0$ so that for all $n > n_0$ ir will always be then case that $c-epsilon < h(n) < c +epsilon$.



            There's nothing to explain why, because that is what $lim_{nto infty} h(n) = c$ means.



            So $lim_{nto infty} frac {f(n)}{g(n)} = c$ then we can find for ANY $epsilon > 0$, in particular for $epsilon = frac 12 c$, there is some $n_0$ so that for all $n > n_0$ we will always have:



            $c - epsilon < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < c + epsilon$ so



            $c - frac 12 c < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < c + frac 12c $ so



            $frac 12 c < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < frac 32c < 2c$






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            That's the very definition of $lim_{nto infty} h(n) = c$.



            That means for any value $epsilon > 0$ we can find some value $n_0$ so that for all $n > n_0$ ir will always be then case that $c-epsilon < h(n) < c +epsilon$.



            There's nothing to explain why, because that is what $lim_{nto infty} h(n) = c$ means.



            So $lim_{nto infty} frac {f(n)}{g(n)} = c$ then we can find for ANY $epsilon > 0$, in particular for $epsilon = frac 12 c$, there is some $n_0$ so that for all $n > n_0$ we will always have:



            $c - epsilon < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < c + epsilon$ so



            $c - frac 12 c < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < c + frac 12c $ so



            $frac 12 c < frac {f(n)}{g(n)} < frac 32c < 2c$







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            • typo ? it will instead of ir will ?
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            • typo ? it will instead of ir will ?
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            typo ? it will instead of ir will ?
            – Maxfield
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            typo ? it will instead of ir will ?
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            Dec 26 '18 at 20:24











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            This is just a quick and dirty version of an $epsilontext{-}delta$ argument; the fact that $c>0$ means that $epsilon_1=c/2>0$ and $epsilon_2=c>0$ are both valid "choices" for the limit definition, and then the rest falls into place.






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              This is just a quick and dirty version of an $epsilontext{-}delta$ argument; the fact that $c>0$ means that $epsilon_1=c/2>0$ and $epsilon_2=c>0$ are both valid "choices" for the limit definition, and then the rest falls into place.






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                This is just a quick and dirty version of an $epsilontext{-}delta$ argument; the fact that $c>0$ means that $epsilon_1=c/2>0$ and $epsilon_2=c>0$ are both valid "choices" for the limit definition, and then the rest falls into place.






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                This is just a quick and dirty version of an $epsilontext{-}delta$ argument; the fact that $c>0$ means that $epsilon_1=c/2>0$ and $epsilon_2=c>0$ are both valid "choices" for the limit definition, and then the rest falls into place.







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