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Let be $(G,circ )$ a finite group and



$ pi : G rightarrow U(H) $ a group homomorphism .



Set



$V:= { xin H: pi(g)x=x, forall g in G } $



Then the orthogonal projection on $V$ is given as :



$$ frac{1}{|G|} sum_{ g in G} pi(g) $$



How can I verify that? Or how can start?
any help very appreciated ,as I am very stuck










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    Let $p$ be that linear combination. What do you need to check for it to be the orthogonal projection? You may have (should have?) seen a list of requirements in an earlier course (linear algebra, if Hermitian inner products were covered, a later course if not).
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Let be $(G,circ )$ a finite group and



$ pi : G rightarrow U(H) $ a group homomorphism .



Set



$V:= { xin H: pi(g)x=x, forall g in G } $



Then the orthogonal projection on $V$ is given as :



$$ frac{1}{|G|} sum_{ g in G} pi(g) $$



How can I verify that? Or how can start?
any help very appreciated ,as I am very stuck










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    $begingroup$
    What does $H$ and $U(H)$ stand for?
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    Let $p$ be that linear combination. What do you need to check for it to be the orthogonal projection? You may have (should have?) seen a list of requirements in an earlier course (linear algebra, if Hermitian inner products were covered, a later course if not).
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$begingroup$


Let be $(G,circ )$ a finite group and



$ pi : G rightarrow U(H) $ a group homomorphism .



Set



$V:= { xin H: pi(g)x=x, forall g in G } $



Then the orthogonal projection on $V$ is given as :



$$ frac{1}{|G|} sum_{ g in G} pi(g) $$



How can I verify that? Or how can start?
any help very appreciated ,as I am very stuck










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Let be $(G,circ )$ a finite group and



$ pi : G rightarrow U(H) $ a group homomorphism .



Set



$V:= { xin H: pi(g)x=x, forall g in G } $



Then the orthogonal projection on $V$ is given as :



$$ frac{1}{|G|} sum_{ g in G} pi(g) $$



How can I verify that? Or how can start?
any help very appreciated ,as I am very stuck







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    $begingroup$
    What does $H$ and $U(H)$ stand for?
    $endgroup$
    – Lev Ban
    Jan 6 at 22:52












  • $begingroup$
    Let $p$ be that linear combination. What do you need to check for it to be the orthogonal projection? You may have (should have?) seen a list of requirements in an earlier course (linear algebra, if Hermitian inner products were covered, a later course if not).
    $endgroup$
    – Jyrki Lahtonen
    Jan 6 at 23:01














  • 1




    $begingroup$
    What does $H$ and $U(H)$ stand for?
    $endgroup$
    – Lev Ban
    Jan 6 at 22:52












  • $begingroup$
    Let $p$ be that linear combination. What do you need to check for it to be the orthogonal projection? You may have (should have?) seen a list of requirements in an earlier course (linear algebra, if Hermitian inner products were covered, a later course if not).
    $endgroup$
    – Jyrki Lahtonen
    Jan 6 at 23:01








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$begingroup$
What does $H$ and $U(H)$ stand for?
$endgroup$
– Lev Ban
Jan 6 at 22:52






$begingroup$
What does $H$ and $U(H)$ stand for?
$endgroup$
– Lev Ban
Jan 6 at 22:52














$begingroup$
Let $p$ be that linear combination. What do you need to check for it to be the orthogonal projection? You may have (should have?) seen a list of requirements in an earlier course (linear algebra, if Hermitian inner products were covered, a later course if not).
$endgroup$
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Jan 6 at 23:01




$begingroup$
Let $p$ be that linear combination. What do you need to check for it to be the orthogonal projection? You may have (should have?) seen a list of requirements in an earlier course (linear algebra, if Hermitian inner products were covered, a later course if not).
$endgroup$
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Set



$P = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g); tag 1$



for



$y in H, tag 2$



we have



$P^2y = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{h in G} pi(h) left ( displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g) y right )$
$= dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} displaystyle sum_{h in G} sum_{g in G} pi(h) pi(g)y = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} sum_{h in G} sum_{g in G} pi(hg)y; tag 3$



now for any fixed $h$ in the rightmost sum of (3),



$displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(hg)y = sum_{g in G} pi(g)y, tag 4$



since left multiplication by $h$ merely permutes the elements of $G$ amongst themselves; it follows that this rightmost sum of (3) is comprised of $vert G vert$ copies of $sum_{g in G} pi(g)y$; hence



$P^2y = dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} vert G vert displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)y = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)y = Py tag 5$



which shows that $P$ is a projection. $P$ is orthogonal if



$P^dagger = P; tag 6$



we have



$P^dagger = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)^dagger; tag 7$



since



$pi(g) in U(H), tag 8$



that is, $pi(g)$ is unitary,



$pi(g)^dagger = pi(g)^{-1} = pi(g^{-1}); tag 9$



thus



$P^dagger = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g^{-1}) = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g) = P, tag{10}$



and $P$ is an orthogonal projection.






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    $begingroup$

    Set



    $P = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g); tag 1$



    for



    $y in H, tag 2$



    we have



    $P^2y = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{h in G} pi(h) left ( displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g) y right )$
    $= dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} displaystyle sum_{h in G} sum_{g in G} pi(h) pi(g)y = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} sum_{h in G} sum_{g in G} pi(hg)y; tag 3$



    now for any fixed $h$ in the rightmost sum of (3),



    $displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(hg)y = sum_{g in G} pi(g)y, tag 4$



    since left multiplication by $h$ merely permutes the elements of $G$ amongst themselves; it follows that this rightmost sum of (3) is comprised of $vert G vert$ copies of $sum_{g in G} pi(g)y$; hence



    $P^2y = dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} vert G vert displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)y = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)y = Py tag 5$



    which shows that $P$ is a projection. $P$ is orthogonal if



    $P^dagger = P; tag 6$



    we have



    $P^dagger = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)^dagger; tag 7$



    since



    $pi(g) in U(H), tag 8$



    that is, $pi(g)$ is unitary,



    $pi(g)^dagger = pi(g)^{-1} = pi(g^{-1}); tag 9$



    thus



    $P^dagger = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g^{-1}) = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g) = P, tag{10}$



    and $P$ is an orthogonal projection.






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      $begingroup$

      Set



      $P = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g); tag 1$



      for



      $y in H, tag 2$



      we have



      $P^2y = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{h in G} pi(h) left ( displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g) y right )$
      $= dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} displaystyle sum_{h in G} sum_{g in G} pi(h) pi(g)y = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} sum_{h in G} sum_{g in G} pi(hg)y; tag 3$



      now for any fixed $h$ in the rightmost sum of (3),



      $displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(hg)y = sum_{g in G} pi(g)y, tag 4$



      since left multiplication by $h$ merely permutes the elements of $G$ amongst themselves; it follows that this rightmost sum of (3) is comprised of $vert G vert$ copies of $sum_{g in G} pi(g)y$; hence



      $P^2y = dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} vert G vert displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)y = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)y = Py tag 5$



      which shows that $P$ is a projection. $P$ is orthogonal if



      $P^dagger = P; tag 6$



      we have



      $P^dagger = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)^dagger; tag 7$



      since



      $pi(g) in U(H), tag 8$



      that is, $pi(g)$ is unitary,



      $pi(g)^dagger = pi(g)^{-1} = pi(g^{-1}); tag 9$



      thus



      $P^dagger = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g^{-1}) = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g) = P, tag{10}$



      and $P$ is an orthogonal projection.






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        $begingroup$

        Set



        $P = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g); tag 1$



        for



        $y in H, tag 2$



        we have



        $P^2y = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{h in G} pi(h) left ( displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g) y right )$
        $= dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} displaystyle sum_{h in G} sum_{g in G} pi(h) pi(g)y = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} sum_{h in G} sum_{g in G} pi(hg)y; tag 3$



        now for any fixed $h$ in the rightmost sum of (3),



        $displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(hg)y = sum_{g in G} pi(g)y, tag 4$



        since left multiplication by $h$ merely permutes the elements of $G$ amongst themselves; it follows that this rightmost sum of (3) is comprised of $vert G vert$ copies of $sum_{g in G} pi(g)y$; hence



        $P^2y = dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} vert G vert displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)y = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)y = Py tag 5$



        which shows that $P$ is a projection. $P$ is orthogonal if



        $P^dagger = P; tag 6$



        we have



        $P^dagger = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)^dagger; tag 7$



        since



        $pi(g) in U(H), tag 8$



        that is, $pi(g)$ is unitary,



        $pi(g)^dagger = pi(g)^{-1} = pi(g^{-1}); tag 9$



        thus



        $P^dagger = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g^{-1}) = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g) = P, tag{10}$



        and $P$ is an orthogonal projection.






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        Set



        $P = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g); tag 1$



        for



        $y in H, tag 2$



        we have



        $P^2y = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{h in G} pi(h) left ( displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g) y right )$
        $= dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} displaystyle sum_{h in G} sum_{g in G} pi(h) pi(g)y = displaystyle dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} sum_{h in G} sum_{g in G} pi(hg)y; tag 3$



        now for any fixed $h$ in the rightmost sum of (3),



        $displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(hg)y = sum_{g in G} pi(g)y, tag 4$



        since left multiplication by $h$ merely permutes the elements of $G$ amongst themselves; it follows that this rightmost sum of (3) is comprised of $vert G vert$ copies of $sum_{g in G} pi(g)y$; hence



        $P^2y = dfrac{1}{vert G vert^2} vert G vert displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)y = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)y = Py tag 5$



        which shows that $P$ is a projection. $P$ is orthogonal if



        $P^dagger = P; tag 6$



        we have



        $P^dagger = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g)^dagger; tag 7$



        since



        $pi(g) in U(H), tag 8$



        that is, $pi(g)$ is unitary,



        $pi(g)^dagger = pi(g)^{-1} = pi(g^{-1}); tag 9$



        thus



        $P^dagger = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} displaystyle sum_{g in G} pi(g^{-1}) = dfrac{1}{vert G vert} sum_{g in G} pi(g) = P, tag{10}$



        and $P$ is an orthogonal projection.







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