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Am trying to prove the following :




Let ($X,T$) a uniquely ergodic topological system.We suppose that the uniquely $T-$invariant measure $mu$ satisfies the property :$mu(U)>0$ for every non-empty open set $Usubseteq X$.Then show under these conditions that the pair $(X,T)$ is minimal.




Let me clarify some definitions:



1)Topological System is the pair $(X,T)$ where $X $ is a compact metric space and $T:Xto X$ is a continuous transformation.



2)Minimal topological System is the pair $(X,T)$ where there does not exist a closed set $emptyset neq F subseteq X$ such that $Fneq X$ and $T(F)subseteq F$.



I tried to approach this by showing that every $x in X$ has dense orbit but i only showed that
$$mubiggl(bigl{x in X: overline{{T^n(x):n in mathbb{N}_0}}=Xbigr}biggr) =1$$



and i dont know has to use the assumption that $mu$ is uniquely determined by being $T-$invariant.



Do you have any ideas? Thanks in advance !










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    Could you recall for me what you mean by the measure being unique? Does it mean, it is really the only measure with those properties or are there some almost surely's floating around?
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    – Severin Schraven
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    It's the only probability measure defined on Borel sets of $X$ that is T-invariant , meaning that $mu(T^{-1}(A))=mu(A)$ for every Borel set $A$. Such measure must be ergodic.
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Am trying to prove the following :




Let ($X,T$) a uniquely ergodic topological system.We suppose that the uniquely $T-$invariant measure $mu$ satisfies the property :$mu(U)>0$ for every non-empty open set $Usubseteq X$.Then show under these conditions that the pair $(X,T)$ is minimal.




Let me clarify some definitions:



1)Topological System is the pair $(X,T)$ where $X $ is a compact metric space and $T:Xto X$ is a continuous transformation.



2)Minimal topological System is the pair $(X,T)$ where there does not exist a closed set $emptyset neq F subseteq X$ such that $Fneq X$ and $T(F)subseteq F$.



I tried to approach this by showing that every $x in X$ has dense orbit but i only showed that
$$mubiggl(bigl{x in X: overline{{T^n(x):n in mathbb{N}_0}}=Xbigr}biggr) =1$$



and i dont know has to use the assumption that $mu$ is uniquely determined by being $T-$invariant.



Do you have any ideas? Thanks in advance !










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  • $begingroup$
    Could you recall for me what you mean by the measure being unique? Does it mean, it is really the only measure with those properties or are there some almost surely's floating around?
    $endgroup$
    – Severin Schraven
    Jan 2 at 14:19






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It's the only probability measure defined on Borel sets of $X$ that is T-invariant , meaning that $mu(T^{-1}(A))=mu(A)$ for every Borel set $A$. Such measure must be ergodic.
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    – dem0nakos
    Jan 2 at 14:23














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Am trying to prove the following :




Let ($X,T$) a uniquely ergodic topological system.We suppose that the uniquely $T-$invariant measure $mu$ satisfies the property :$mu(U)>0$ for every non-empty open set $Usubseteq X$.Then show under these conditions that the pair $(X,T)$ is minimal.




Let me clarify some definitions:



1)Topological System is the pair $(X,T)$ where $X $ is a compact metric space and $T:Xto X$ is a continuous transformation.



2)Minimal topological System is the pair $(X,T)$ where there does not exist a closed set $emptyset neq F subseteq X$ such that $Fneq X$ and $T(F)subseteq F$.



I tried to approach this by showing that every $x in X$ has dense orbit but i only showed that
$$mubiggl(bigl{x in X: overline{{T^n(x):n in mathbb{N}_0}}=Xbigr}biggr) =1$$



and i dont know has to use the assumption that $mu$ is uniquely determined by being $T-$invariant.



Do you have any ideas? Thanks in advance !










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Am trying to prove the following :




Let ($X,T$) a uniquely ergodic topological system.We suppose that the uniquely $T-$invariant measure $mu$ satisfies the property :$mu(U)>0$ for every non-empty open set $Usubseteq X$.Then show under these conditions that the pair $(X,T)$ is minimal.




Let me clarify some definitions:



1)Topological System is the pair $(X,T)$ where $X $ is a compact metric space and $T:Xto X$ is a continuous transformation.



2)Minimal topological System is the pair $(X,T)$ where there does not exist a closed set $emptyset neq F subseteq X$ such that $Fneq X$ and $T(F)subseteq F$.



I tried to approach this by showing that every $x in X$ has dense orbit but i only showed that
$$mubiggl(bigl{x in X: overline{{T^n(x):n in mathbb{N}_0}}=Xbigr}biggr) =1$$



and i dont know has to use the assumption that $mu$ is uniquely determined by being $T-$invariant.



Do you have any ideas? Thanks in advance !







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  • $begingroup$
    Could you recall for me what you mean by the measure being unique? Does it mean, it is really the only measure with those properties or are there some almost surely's floating around?
    $endgroup$
    – Severin Schraven
    Jan 2 at 14:19






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It's the only probability measure defined on Borel sets of $X$ that is T-invariant , meaning that $mu(T^{-1}(A))=mu(A)$ for every Borel set $A$. Such measure must be ergodic.
    $endgroup$
    – dem0nakos
    Jan 2 at 14:23


















  • $begingroup$
    Could you recall for me what you mean by the measure being unique? Does it mean, it is really the only measure with those properties or are there some almost surely's floating around?
    $endgroup$
    – Severin Schraven
    Jan 2 at 14:19






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It's the only probability measure defined on Borel sets of $X$ that is T-invariant , meaning that $mu(T^{-1}(A))=mu(A)$ for every Borel set $A$. Such measure must be ergodic.
    $endgroup$
    – dem0nakos
    Jan 2 at 14:23
















$begingroup$
Could you recall for me what you mean by the measure being unique? Does it mean, it is really the only measure with those properties or are there some almost surely's floating around?
$endgroup$
– Severin Schraven
Jan 2 at 14:19




$begingroup$
Could you recall for me what you mean by the measure being unique? Does it mean, it is really the only measure with those properties or are there some almost surely's floating around?
$endgroup$
– Severin Schraven
Jan 2 at 14:19




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$begingroup$
It's the only probability measure defined on Borel sets of $X$ that is T-invariant , meaning that $mu(T^{-1}(A))=mu(A)$ for every Borel set $A$. Such measure must be ergodic.
$endgroup$
– dem0nakos
Jan 2 at 14:23




$begingroup$
It's the only probability measure defined on Borel sets of $X$ that is T-invariant , meaning that $mu(T^{-1}(A))=mu(A)$ for every Borel set $A$. Such measure must be ergodic.
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Ok guys i think proved it, i used the following preposition which is equivalent for a dynamical topological pair $(X,T)$ to be uniquely ergodic :




For every continuous function $fin C(X)$
$$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}f(T^k(x)) to int fdmu tag 1$$
for every $xin X$ where $mu$ is the uniquely determined $T-$invariant Borel probability measure.




Now i can prove the the desired result as follows:



Suppose we have a set $F$ which closed, $T-$invariant $bigl(T(F)subseteq Fbigr)$ and $F neq X$ then $Xsetminus F$ is non empty and open. Let $x_1 in Xsetminus F$, then there is an $epsilon>0$ such that
$$E=hat{B}(x_1,epsilon) = {xin X: d(x,x_1)leq epsilon} subseteq Xsetminus F$$
From our assumptions we get that $mu(E)>0 $ since $hat{B}(x_1,epsilon)$ contains the open ball $B(x_1,epsilon).$



Now we are trying to find the crucial continuous function $f$ in order to use $(1)$.Since we have two closed and disjoint sets $F,E$ we define
$$f(x) = frac{dist(x,F)}{dist(x,F)+dist(x,E)}$$
then we know that



$alpha)$ $f$ is continuous



$beta)$ $0leq f leq 1$



$gamma$) $f|F =0$ and $f|E=1$



So if we combine these facts and $(1)$ we get that
$$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}fbigl(T^k(x)bigr) to int fdmu=int_{Xsetminus F}f dmu geq int_{E}fdmu geq mu(E)>0 tag 2$$
for every $xin X$.



But now (2) tells us that $F$ must be the empty set since if we can find $x^*in F$ since $T(F) subseteq F$ we get that $T^k(x^*) in F$ for every k. In other words
$$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}fbigl(T^k(x^*)bigr) =0 $$
for every $n in mathbb{N}$ which contradicts $(2)$ since it holds for every $xin X$.



So, for every $F$ closed which is $T-$invariant $bigl(T(F)subseteq Fbigr)$ it must be either $F= emptyset$ either $F=X$.So, $(X,T)$ must be minimal.



Is this correct? thanks again !






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    Ok guys i think proved it, i used the following preposition which is equivalent for a dynamical topological pair $(X,T)$ to be uniquely ergodic :




    For every continuous function $fin C(X)$
    $$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}f(T^k(x)) to int fdmu tag 1$$
    for every $xin X$ where $mu$ is the uniquely determined $T-$invariant Borel probability measure.




    Now i can prove the the desired result as follows:



    Suppose we have a set $F$ which closed, $T-$invariant $bigl(T(F)subseteq Fbigr)$ and $F neq X$ then $Xsetminus F$ is non empty and open. Let $x_1 in Xsetminus F$, then there is an $epsilon>0$ such that
    $$E=hat{B}(x_1,epsilon) = {xin X: d(x,x_1)leq epsilon} subseteq Xsetminus F$$
    From our assumptions we get that $mu(E)>0 $ since $hat{B}(x_1,epsilon)$ contains the open ball $B(x_1,epsilon).$



    Now we are trying to find the crucial continuous function $f$ in order to use $(1)$.Since we have two closed and disjoint sets $F,E$ we define
    $$f(x) = frac{dist(x,F)}{dist(x,F)+dist(x,E)}$$
    then we know that



    $alpha)$ $f$ is continuous



    $beta)$ $0leq f leq 1$



    $gamma$) $f|F =0$ and $f|E=1$



    So if we combine these facts and $(1)$ we get that
    $$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}fbigl(T^k(x)bigr) to int fdmu=int_{Xsetminus F}f dmu geq int_{E}fdmu geq mu(E)>0 tag 2$$
    for every $xin X$.



    But now (2) tells us that $F$ must be the empty set since if we can find $x^*in F$ since $T(F) subseteq F$ we get that $T^k(x^*) in F$ for every k. In other words
    $$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}fbigl(T^k(x^*)bigr) =0 $$
    for every $n in mathbb{N}$ which contradicts $(2)$ since it holds for every $xin X$.



    So, for every $F$ closed which is $T-$invariant $bigl(T(F)subseteq Fbigr)$ it must be either $F= emptyset$ either $F=X$.So, $(X,T)$ must be minimal.



    Is this correct? thanks again !






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      Ok guys i think proved it, i used the following preposition which is equivalent for a dynamical topological pair $(X,T)$ to be uniquely ergodic :




      For every continuous function $fin C(X)$
      $$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}f(T^k(x)) to int fdmu tag 1$$
      for every $xin X$ where $mu$ is the uniquely determined $T-$invariant Borel probability measure.




      Now i can prove the the desired result as follows:



      Suppose we have a set $F$ which closed, $T-$invariant $bigl(T(F)subseteq Fbigr)$ and $F neq X$ then $Xsetminus F$ is non empty and open. Let $x_1 in Xsetminus F$, then there is an $epsilon>0$ such that
      $$E=hat{B}(x_1,epsilon) = {xin X: d(x,x_1)leq epsilon} subseteq Xsetminus F$$
      From our assumptions we get that $mu(E)>0 $ since $hat{B}(x_1,epsilon)$ contains the open ball $B(x_1,epsilon).$



      Now we are trying to find the crucial continuous function $f$ in order to use $(1)$.Since we have two closed and disjoint sets $F,E$ we define
      $$f(x) = frac{dist(x,F)}{dist(x,F)+dist(x,E)}$$
      then we know that



      $alpha)$ $f$ is continuous



      $beta)$ $0leq f leq 1$



      $gamma$) $f|F =0$ and $f|E=1$



      So if we combine these facts and $(1)$ we get that
      $$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}fbigl(T^k(x)bigr) to int fdmu=int_{Xsetminus F}f dmu geq int_{E}fdmu geq mu(E)>0 tag 2$$
      for every $xin X$.



      But now (2) tells us that $F$ must be the empty set since if we can find $x^*in F$ since $T(F) subseteq F$ we get that $T^k(x^*) in F$ for every k. In other words
      $$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}fbigl(T^k(x^*)bigr) =0 $$
      for every $n in mathbb{N}$ which contradicts $(2)$ since it holds for every $xin X$.



      So, for every $F$ closed which is $T-$invariant $bigl(T(F)subseteq Fbigr)$ it must be either $F= emptyset$ either $F=X$.So, $(X,T)$ must be minimal.



      Is this correct? thanks again !






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        Ok guys i think proved it, i used the following preposition which is equivalent for a dynamical topological pair $(X,T)$ to be uniquely ergodic :




        For every continuous function $fin C(X)$
        $$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}f(T^k(x)) to int fdmu tag 1$$
        for every $xin X$ where $mu$ is the uniquely determined $T-$invariant Borel probability measure.




        Now i can prove the the desired result as follows:



        Suppose we have a set $F$ which closed, $T-$invariant $bigl(T(F)subseteq Fbigr)$ and $F neq X$ then $Xsetminus F$ is non empty and open. Let $x_1 in Xsetminus F$, then there is an $epsilon>0$ such that
        $$E=hat{B}(x_1,epsilon) = {xin X: d(x,x_1)leq epsilon} subseteq Xsetminus F$$
        From our assumptions we get that $mu(E)>0 $ since $hat{B}(x_1,epsilon)$ contains the open ball $B(x_1,epsilon).$



        Now we are trying to find the crucial continuous function $f$ in order to use $(1)$.Since we have two closed and disjoint sets $F,E$ we define
        $$f(x) = frac{dist(x,F)}{dist(x,F)+dist(x,E)}$$
        then we know that



        $alpha)$ $f$ is continuous



        $beta)$ $0leq f leq 1$



        $gamma$) $f|F =0$ and $f|E=1$



        So if we combine these facts and $(1)$ we get that
        $$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}fbigl(T^k(x)bigr) to int fdmu=int_{Xsetminus F}f dmu geq int_{E}fdmu geq mu(E)>0 tag 2$$
        for every $xin X$.



        But now (2) tells us that $F$ must be the empty set since if we can find $x^*in F$ since $T(F) subseteq F$ we get that $T^k(x^*) in F$ for every k. In other words
        $$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}fbigl(T^k(x^*)bigr) =0 $$
        for every $n in mathbb{N}$ which contradicts $(2)$ since it holds for every $xin X$.



        So, for every $F$ closed which is $T-$invariant $bigl(T(F)subseteq Fbigr)$ it must be either $F= emptyset$ either $F=X$.So, $(X,T)$ must be minimal.



        Is this correct? thanks again !






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        Ok guys i think proved it, i used the following preposition which is equivalent for a dynamical topological pair $(X,T)$ to be uniquely ergodic :




        For every continuous function $fin C(X)$
        $$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}f(T^k(x)) to int fdmu tag 1$$
        for every $xin X$ where $mu$ is the uniquely determined $T-$invariant Borel probability measure.




        Now i can prove the the desired result as follows:



        Suppose we have a set $F$ which closed, $T-$invariant $bigl(T(F)subseteq Fbigr)$ and $F neq X$ then $Xsetminus F$ is non empty and open. Let $x_1 in Xsetminus F$, then there is an $epsilon>0$ such that
        $$E=hat{B}(x_1,epsilon) = {xin X: d(x,x_1)leq epsilon} subseteq Xsetminus F$$
        From our assumptions we get that $mu(E)>0 $ since $hat{B}(x_1,epsilon)$ contains the open ball $B(x_1,epsilon).$



        Now we are trying to find the crucial continuous function $f$ in order to use $(1)$.Since we have two closed and disjoint sets $F,E$ we define
        $$f(x) = frac{dist(x,F)}{dist(x,F)+dist(x,E)}$$
        then we know that



        $alpha)$ $f$ is continuous



        $beta)$ $0leq f leq 1$



        $gamma$) $f|F =0$ and $f|E=1$



        So if we combine these facts and $(1)$ we get that
        $$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}fbigl(T^k(x)bigr) to int fdmu=int_{Xsetminus F}f dmu geq int_{E}fdmu geq mu(E)>0 tag 2$$
        for every $xin X$.



        But now (2) tells us that $F$ must be the empty set since if we can find $x^*in F$ since $T(F) subseteq F$ we get that $T^k(x^*) in F$ for every k. In other words
        $$frac{1}{n}sum_{k=0}^{n-1}fbigl(T^k(x^*)bigr) =0 $$
        for every $n in mathbb{N}$ which contradicts $(2)$ since it holds for every $xin X$.



        So, for every $F$ closed which is $T-$invariant $bigl(T(F)subseteq Fbigr)$ it must be either $F= emptyset$ either $F=X$.So, $(X,T)$ must be minimal.



        Is this correct? thanks again !







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