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Consider the following Sturm–Liouville (SL) eigenvalue problem $$(x^2y')'-[(x/2+a)^2+a]y=-lambda^2y(x),$$ defined in $(-infty,0]$ or $[0,infty)$ or $(-infty,+infty)$ and parameter $a>0$. Therefore, the SL coefficient functions $p(x)=x^2$, $w(x)=1$, and $q(x)=-[(x/2+a)^2+a]$. It has a regular singularity $x=0$. We basically hope for homogeneous Dirichlet b.c.



It is solved by making the substitution $y(x)=e^{x/2}x^{-frac{1}{2}+sqrt{(a+frac{1}{2})^2-lambda^2}}u(x)$, leading directly to the Kummer's equation $$xu''(x)+(gamma-x)u'(x)-alpha u(x)=0,$$ in which $alpha=sqrt{(a+frac{1}{2})^2-lambda^2}-a+frac{1}{2}$ and $gamma=1+2sqrt{(a+frac{1}{2})^2-lambda^2}$. It has two (1st kind & 2nd kind) independent solutions.
Let's then follow the standard argument.



Requiring nondivergence at $x=0$, the 2nd kind is dropped. Requiring nondivergence at infinity, the 1st kind is reduced to a polynomial when $-alpha$ is a non-negative integer and eigenvalue $lambda^2$ is attained.
Seen from this condition for $alpha$, we only have a bounded and finite sequence of eigenvalues. Therefore, one probably also expects an additional continuous spectrum as suggested in the comments.



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Is it possible to know the limit circle/point classification of this ODE near $0,pminfty$? Is the above solution useful for this purpose? How should one proceed? I also found page 13 of this paper has a limit point/circle classification of the Kummer equation I used. Not sure if relevant.










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    Note that the standard Sturm–Liouville eigenvalue problem is linear in the eigenvalue. In your case that would be equivalent to also allowing imaginary $λ$.
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    – LutzL
    Jan 5 at 8:25










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    @LutzL But actually assuming imaginary $lambda$ doesn't really give any extra solution to the condition of $alpha$. In any case, I can just use $lambda$ instead and the question remains.
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    – xiaohuamao
    Jan 5 at 8:35












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    If there are only a finite number of eigenfunctions in $L^2$, then there must be continuous spectrum for the operator, provided you have properly defined endpoint conditions that lead to a well-posed selfadjoint problem.
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    – DisintegratingByParts
    Jan 6 at 7:02










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    @DisintegratingByParts Thanks. Yes, I think it is self-adjoint for homogeneous Dirichlet b.c. But a confusing thing is what if we consider this equation on (−∞,+∞) with homogeneous Dirichlet b.c.? The solution shown with $e^{x/2}$ doesn't seem to allow this at +∞. I'm not sure if this is normal. Did I do anything wrong?
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    – xiaohuamao
    Jan 6 at 7:09










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    $x=0$ is a singular point of your equation, which complicates any examination of the equation on $(-infty,infty)$.
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    – DisintegratingByParts
    Jan 6 at 7:17
















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Consider the following Sturm–Liouville (SL) eigenvalue problem $$(x^2y')'-[(x/2+a)^2+a]y=-lambda^2y(x),$$ defined in $(-infty,0]$ or $[0,infty)$ or $(-infty,+infty)$ and parameter $a>0$. Therefore, the SL coefficient functions $p(x)=x^2$, $w(x)=1$, and $q(x)=-[(x/2+a)^2+a]$. It has a regular singularity $x=0$. We basically hope for homogeneous Dirichlet b.c.



It is solved by making the substitution $y(x)=e^{x/2}x^{-frac{1}{2}+sqrt{(a+frac{1}{2})^2-lambda^2}}u(x)$, leading directly to the Kummer's equation $$xu''(x)+(gamma-x)u'(x)-alpha u(x)=0,$$ in which $alpha=sqrt{(a+frac{1}{2})^2-lambda^2}-a+frac{1}{2}$ and $gamma=1+2sqrt{(a+frac{1}{2})^2-lambda^2}$. It has two (1st kind & 2nd kind) independent solutions.
Let's then follow the standard argument.



Requiring nondivergence at $x=0$, the 2nd kind is dropped. Requiring nondivergence at infinity, the 1st kind is reduced to a polynomial when $-alpha$ is a non-negative integer and eigenvalue $lambda^2$ is attained.
Seen from this condition for $alpha$, we only have a bounded and finite sequence of eigenvalues. Therefore, one probably also expects an additional continuous spectrum as suggested in the comments.



Question



Is it possible to know the limit circle/point classification of this ODE near $0,pminfty$? Is the above solution useful for this purpose? How should one proceed? I also found page 13 of this paper has a limit point/circle classification of the Kummer equation I used. Not sure if relevant.










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  • $begingroup$
    Note that the standard Sturm–Liouville eigenvalue problem is linear in the eigenvalue. In your case that would be equivalent to also allowing imaginary $λ$.
    $endgroup$
    – LutzL
    Jan 5 at 8:25










  • $begingroup$
    @LutzL But actually assuming imaginary $lambda$ doesn't really give any extra solution to the condition of $alpha$. In any case, I can just use $lambda$ instead and the question remains.
    $endgroup$
    – xiaohuamao
    Jan 5 at 8:35












  • $begingroup$
    If there are only a finite number of eigenfunctions in $L^2$, then there must be continuous spectrum for the operator, provided you have properly defined endpoint conditions that lead to a well-posed selfadjoint problem.
    $endgroup$
    – DisintegratingByParts
    Jan 6 at 7:02










  • $begingroup$
    @DisintegratingByParts Thanks. Yes, I think it is self-adjoint for homogeneous Dirichlet b.c. But a confusing thing is what if we consider this equation on (−∞,+∞) with homogeneous Dirichlet b.c.? The solution shown with $e^{x/2}$ doesn't seem to allow this at +∞. I'm not sure if this is normal. Did I do anything wrong?
    $endgroup$
    – xiaohuamao
    Jan 6 at 7:09










  • $begingroup$
    $x=0$ is a singular point of your equation, which complicates any examination of the equation on $(-infty,infty)$.
    $endgroup$
    – DisintegratingByParts
    Jan 6 at 7:17














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Consider the following Sturm–Liouville (SL) eigenvalue problem $$(x^2y')'-[(x/2+a)^2+a]y=-lambda^2y(x),$$ defined in $(-infty,0]$ or $[0,infty)$ or $(-infty,+infty)$ and parameter $a>0$. Therefore, the SL coefficient functions $p(x)=x^2$, $w(x)=1$, and $q(x)=-[(x/2+a)^2+a]$. It has a regular singularity $x=0$. We basically hope for homogeneous Dirichlet b.c.



It is solved by making the substitution $y(x)=e^{x/2}x^{-frac{1}{2}+sqrt{(a+frac{1}{2})^2-lambda^2}}u(x)$, leading directly to the Kummer's equation $$xu''(x)+(gamma-x)u'(x)-alpha u(x)=0,$$ in which $alpha=sqrt{(a+frac{1}{2})^2-lambda^2}-a+frac{1}{2}$ and $gamma=1+2sqrt{(a+frac{1}{2})^2-lambda^2}$. It has two (1st kind & 2nd kind) independent solutions.
Let's then follow the standard argument.



Requiring nondivergence at $x=0$, the 2nd kind is dropped. Requiring nondivergence at infinity, the 1st kind is reduced to a polynomial when $-alpha$ is a non-negative integer and eigenvalue $lambda^2$ is attained.
Seen from this condition for $alpha$, we only have a bounded and finite sequence of eigenvalues. Therefore, one probably also expects an additional continuous spectrum as suggested in the comments.



Question



Is it possible to know the limit circle/point classification of this ODE near $0,pminfty$? Is the above solution useful for this purpose? How should one proceed? I also found page 13 of this paper has a limit point/circle classification of the Kummer equation I used. Not sure if relevant.










share|cite|improve this question











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Consider the following Sturm–Liouville (SL) eigenvalue problem $$(x^2y')'-[(x/2+a)^2+a]y=-lambda^2y(x),$$ defined in $(-infty,0]$ or $[0,infty)$ or $(-infty,+infty)$ and parameter $a>0$. Therefore, the SL coefficient functions $p(x)=x^2$, $w(x)=1$, and $q(x)=-[(x/2+a)^2+a]$. It has a regular singularity $x=0$. We basically hope for homogeneous Dirichlet b.c.



It is solved by making the substitution $y(x)=e^{x/2}x^{-frac{1}{2}+sqrt{(a+frac{1}{2})^2-lambda^2}}u(x)$, leading directly to the Kummer's equation $$xu''(x)+(gamma-x)u'(x)-alpha u(x)=0,$$ in which $alpha=sqrt{(a+frac{1}{2})^2-lambda^2}-a+frac{1}{2}$ and $gamma=1+2sqrt{(a+frac{1}{2})^2-lambda^2}$. It has two (1st kind & 2nd kind) independent solutions.
Let's then follow the standard argument.



Requiring nondivergence at $x=0$, the 2nd kind is dropped. Requiring nondivergence at infinity, the 1st kind is reduced to a polynomial when $-alpha$ is a non-negative integer and eigenvalue $lambda^2$ is attained.
Seen from this condition for $alpha$, we only have a bounded and finite sequence of eigenvalues. Therefore, one probably also expects an additional continuous spectrum as suggested in the comments.



Question



Is it possible to know the limit circle/point classification of this ODE near $0,pminfty$? Is the above solution useful for this purpose? How should one proceed? I also found page 13 of this paper has a limit point/circle classification of the Kummer equation I used. Not sure if relevant.







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  • $begingroup$
    Note that the standard Sturm–Liouville eigenvalue problem is linear in the eigenvalue. In your case that would be equivalent to also allowing imaginary $λ$.
    $endgroup$
    – LutzL
    Jan 5 at 8:25










  • $begingroup$
    @LutzL But actually assuming imaginary $lambda$ doesn't really give any extra solution to the condition of $alpha$. In any case, I can just use $lambda$ instead and the question remains.
    $endgroup$
    – xiaohuamao
    Jan 5 at 8:35












  • $begingroup$
    If there are only a finite number of eigenfunctions in $L^2$, then there must be continuous spectrum for the operator, provided you have properly defined endpoint conditions that lead to a well-posed selfadjoint problem.
    $endgroup$
    – DisintegratingByParts
    Jan 6 at 7:02










  • $begingroup$
    @DisintegratingByParts Thanks. Yes, I think it is self-adjoint for homogeneous Dirichlet b.c. But a confusing thing is what if we consider this equation on (−∞,+∞) with homogeneous Dirichlet b.c.? The solution shown with $e^{x/2}$ doesn't seem to allow this at +∞. I'm not sure if this is normal. Did I do anything wrong?
    $endgroup$
    – xiaohuamao
    Jan 6 at 7:09










  • $begingroup$
    $x=0$ is a singular point of your equation, which complicates any examination of the equation on $(-infty,infty)$.
    $endgroup$
    – DisintegratingByParts
    Jan 6 at 7:17


















  • $begingroup$
    Note that the standard Sturm–Liouville eigenvalue problem is linear in the eigenvalue. In your case that would be equivalent to also allowing imaginary $λ$.
    $endgroup$
    – LutzL
    Jan 5 at 8:25










  • $begingroup$
    @LutzL But actually assuming imaginary $lambda$ doesn't really give any extra solution to the condition of $alpha$. In any case, I can just use $lambda$ instead and the question remains.
    $endgroup$
    – xiaohuamao
    Jan 5 at 8:35












  • $begingroup$
    If there are only a finite number of eigenfunctions in $L^2$, then there must be continuous spectrum for the operator, provided you have properly defined endpoint conditions that lead to a well-posed selfadjoint problem.
    $endgroup$
    – DisintegratingByParts
    Jan 6 at 7:02










  • $begingroup$
    @DisintegratingByParts Thanks. Yes, I think it is self-adjoint for homogeneous Dirichlet b.c. But a confusing thing is what if we consider this equation on (−∞,+∞) with homogeneous Dirichlet b.c.? The solution shown with $e^{x/2}$ doesn't seem to allow this at +∞. I'm not sure if this is normal. Did I do anything wrong?
    $endgroup$
    – xiaohuamao
    Jan 6 at 7:09










  • $begingroup$
    $x=0$ is a singular point of your equation, which complicates any examination of the equation on $(-infty,infty)$.
    $endgroup$
    – DisintegratingByParts
    Jan 6 at 7:17
















$begingroup$
Note that the standard Sturm–Liouville eigenvalue problem is linear in the eigenvalue. In your case that would be equivalent to also allowing imaginary $λ$.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 5 at 8:25




$begingroup$
Note that the standard Sturm–Liouville eigenvalue problem is linear in the eigenvalue. In your case that would be equivalent to also allowing imaginary $λ$.
$endgroup$
– LutzL
Jan 5 at 8:25












$begingroup$
@LutzL But actually assuming imaginary $lambda$ doesn't really give any extra solution to the condition of $alpha$. In any case, I can just use $lambda$ instead and the question remains.
$endgroup$
– xiaohuamao
Jan 5 at 8:35






$begingroup$
@LutzL But actually assuming imaginary $lambda$ doesn't really give any extra solution to the condition of $alpha$. In any case, I can just use $lambda$ instead and the question remains.
$endgroup$
– xiaohuamao
Jan 5 at 8:35














$begingroup$
If there are only a finite number of eigenfunctions in $L^2$, then there must be continuous spectrum for the operator, provided you have properly defined endpoint conditions that lead to a well-posed selfadjoint problem.
$endgroup$
– DisintegratingByParts
Jan 6 at 7:02




$begingroup$
If there are only a finite number of eigenfunctions in $L^2$, then there must be continuous spectrum for the operator, provided you have properly defined endpoint conditions that lead to a well-posed selfadjoint problem.
$endgroup$
– DisintegratingByParts
Jan 6 at 7:02












$begingroup$
@DisintegratingByParts Thanks. Yes, I think it is self-adjoint for homogeneous Dirichlet b.c. But a confusing thing is what if we consider this equation on (−∞,+∞) with homogeneous Dirichlet b.c.? The solution shown with $e^{x/2}$ doesn't seem to allow this at +∞. I'm not sure if this is normal. Did I do anything wrong?
$endgroup$
– xiaohuamao
Jan 6 at 7:09




$begingroup$
@DisintegratingByParts Thanks. Yes, I think it is self-adjoint for homogeneous Dirichlet b.c. But a confusing thing is what if we consider this equation on (−∞,+∞) with homogeneous Dirichlet b.c.? The solution shown with $e^{x/2}$ doesn't seem to allow this at +∞. I'm not sure if this is normal. Did I do anything wrong?
$endgroup$
– xiaohuamao
Jan 6 at 7:09












$begingroup$
$x=0$ is a singular point of your equation, which complicates any examination of the equation on $(-infty,infty)$.
$endgroup$
– DisintegratingByParts
Jan 6 at 7:17




$begingroup$
$x=0$ is a singular point of your equation, which complicates any examination of the equation on $(-infty,infty)$.
$endgroup$
– DisintegratingByParts
Jan 6 at 7:17










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