What angular resolution is expected during New Horizon's flyby of Ultima Thule?
Ultima Thule is thought to be about 20 miles (30 km) across. However, I can't seem to find any information about approach distance or typical image resolution of New Horizons in regards to this second target.
What I am interested in is that, since Pluto is a good deal larger than Ultima Thule, we knew a lot more about it before we got there. There are several technical details known about Pluto but not about Ultima Thule due to its dimness (it is a million times dimmer than Pluto), distance, and the fact that it was only discovered 4 years ago. Presumably knowing these details in respect to Ultima Thule would aid the technical aspects of imaging it.
What meter/pixel resolution could we expect to get from such a small target?
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Ultima Thule is thought to be about 20 miles (30 km) across. However, I can't seem to find any information about approach distance or typical image resolution of New Horizons in regards to this second target.
What I am interested in is that, since Pluto is a good deal larger than Ultima Thule, we knew a lot more about it before we got there. There are several technical details known about Pluto but not about Ultima Thule due to its dimness (it is a million times dimmer than Pluto), distance, and the fact that it was only discovered 4 years ago. Presumably knowing these details in respect to Ultima Thule would aid the technical aspects of imaging it.
What meter/pixel resolution could we expect to get from such a small target?
probe imaging new-horizons flyby 2014-mu69
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slightly related: How good are Lucy's cameras? Improvements since New Horizons?
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Ultima Thule is thought to be about 20 miles (30 km) across. However, I can't seem to find any information about approach distance or typical image resolution of New Horizons in regards to this second target.
What I am interested in is that, since Pluto is a good deal larger than Ultima Thule, we knew a lot more about it before we got there. There are several technical details known about Pluto but not about Ultima Thule due to its dimness (it is a million times dimmer than Pluto), distance, and the fact that it was only discovered 4 years ago. Presumably knowing these details in respect to Ultima Thule would aid the technical aspects of imaging it.
What meter/pixel resolution could we expect to get from such a small target?
probe imaging new-horizons flyby 2014-mu69
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Ultima Thule is thought to be about 20 miles (30 km) across. However, I can't seem to find any information about approach distance or typical image resolution of New Horizons in regards to this second target.
What I am interested in is that, since Pluto is a good deal larger than Ultima Thule, we knew a lot more about it before we got there. There are several technical details known about Pluto but not about Ultima Thule due to its dimness (it is a million times dimmer than Pluto), distance, and the fact that it was only discovered 4 years ago. Presumably knowing these details in respect to Ultima Thule would aid the technical aspects of imaging it.
What meter/pixel resolution could we expect to get from such a small target?
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slightly related: How good are Lucy's cameras? Improvements since New Horizons?
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slightly related: How good are Lucy's cameras? Improvements since New Horizons?
– uhoh
Dec 28 '18 at 4:54
slightly related: How good are Lucy's cameras? Improvements since New Horizons?
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I was gathering data to do the math and came across this:
New Horizons is planned to come within 3,500 km (2,200 mi) of 2014 MU69, three times closer than the spacecraft's earlier encounter with Pluto. Images with a resolution as fine as 30 m (98 ft) to 70 m (230 ft) are expected. [1] [2]
Source: (486958) 2014 MU69, Wikipedia
Various estimates of 2014 MU69's diameter have been made:
25–45 km 3 (2014)
30–45 km 4 (2014)
30 km or binary pair of 15 to 20 km each 5 (2017)
Source: ibid, as cited
The resolution of the imagery to be collected is discussed in detail in another answer
Note that "Ultima Thule" is currently just a nickname for 2014 MU69. As partially quoted on the above-linked Wikipedia page:
[W]e’re going to give 2014 MU69 [sic] a real name, rather than just the “license plate” designator it has now. The details of how we’ll name it are still being worked out, but NASA announced a few weeks back that it will involve a public naming contest. [6]
Another source7 adds:
After the flyby, NASA and the New Horizons team will choose a formal name to submit to the International Astronomical Union, based in part on whether MU69 [sic] is found to be a single body, a binary pair, or perhaps a system of multiple objects.
Citations:
1 Green, Jim (12 December 2017), New Horizons Explores the Kuiper Belt, 2017 American Geophysical Union (AGU) Fall Meeting in New Orleans: 12–15.
(PDF)
2 Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (2017), New Horizons Files Flight Plan for 2019 Flyby, 6 September 2017, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.
3 Buie, Marc (15 October 2014), New Horizons HST KBO Search Results: Status Report, Space Telescope Science Institute, 23.
(PDF)
4 Lakdawalla, Emily (15 October 2014), Finally! New Horizons has a second target, Planetary Society blog, Planetary Society, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
5 Bill Keeter (3 August 2017), New Horizons' Next Target Just Got a Lot More Interesting, NASA, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.
6 Stern, Alan (28 April 2017), No Sleeping Back on Earth!, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
7 Tricia Talbert (13 March 2018), New Horizons Chooses Nickname for 'Ultimate' Flyby Target, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
Thanks for that info, exactly what i was looking for!
– TheGeneral
Dec 28 '18 at 3:53
1
Remarkable citation style.
– Boosted Nub
Dec 28 '18 at 4:08
2
@BoostedNub How so? You mean mixing inline and numbered citations? I don't consider Wikipedia authoritative so I typically don't provide full, formal citations when I reference it (just links and acknowledgement).
– Alex Hajnal
Dec 28 '18 at 4:09
1
If I were writing a formal research paper it would be different though; everything would get a proper citation, Wikipedia included. Note that given its non-authoritative nature, Wikipedia should never be used as a primary source in any serious paper. (It can be useful for tracking down primary sources though.)
– Alex Hajnal
Dec 28 '18 at 4:35
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Most of us on Space.SE just place a hyperlink to the source on an appropriate word in the answer, instead of providing a Wikipedia-style footnote.
– Hobbes
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I was gathering data to do the math and came across this:
New Horizons is planned to come within 3,500 km (2,200 mi) of 2014 MU69, three times closer than the spacecraft's earlier encounter with Pluto. Images with a resolution as fine as 30 m (98 ft) to 70 m (230 ft) are expected. [1] [2]
Source: (486958) 2014 MU69, Wikipedia
Various estimates of 2014 MU69's diameter have been made:
25–45 km 3 (2014)
30–45 km 4 (2014)
30 km or binary pair of 15 to 20 km each 5 (2017)
Source: ibid, as cited
The resolution of the imagery to be collected is discussed in detail in another answer
Note that "Ultima Thule" is currently just a nickname for 2014 MU69. As partially quoted on the above-linked Wikipedia page:
[W]e’re going to give 2014 MU69 [sic] a real name, rather than just the “license plate” designator it has now. The details of how we’ll name it are still being worked out, but NASA announced a few weeks back that it will involve a public naming contest. [6]
Another source7 adds:
After the flyby, NASA and the New Horizons team will choose a formal name to submit to the International Astronomical Union, based in part on whether MU69 [sic] is found to be a single body, a binary pair, or perhaps a system of multiple objects.
Citations:
1 Green, Jim (12 December 2017), New Horizons Explores the Kuiper Belt, 2017 American Geophysical Union (AGU) Fall Meeting in New Orleans: 12–15.
(PDF)
2 Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (2017), New Horizons Files Flight Plan for 2019 Flyby, 6 September 2017, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.
3 Buie, Marc (15 October 2014), New Horizons HST KBO Search Results: Status Report, Space Telescope Science Institute, 23.
(PDF)
4 Lakdawalla, Emily (15 October 2014), Finally! New Horizons has a second target, Planetary Society blog, Planetary Society, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
5 Bill Keeter (3 August 2017), New Horizons' Next Target Just Got a Lot More Interesting, NASA, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.
6 Stern, Alan (28 April 2017), No Sleeping Back on Earth!, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
7 Tricia Talbert (13 March 2018), New Horizons Chooses Nickname for 'Ultimate' Flyby Target, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
Thanks for that info, exactly what i was looking for!
– TheGeneral
Dec 28 '18 at 3:53
1
Remarkable citation style.
– Boosted Nub
Dec 28 '18 at 4:08
2
@BoostedNub How so? You mean mixing inline and numbered citations? I don't consider Wikipedia authoritative so I typically don't provide full, formal citations when I reference it (just links and acknowledgement).
– Alex Hajnal
Dec 28 '18 at 4:09
1
If I were writing a formal research paper it would be different though; everything would get a proper citation, Wikipedia included. Note that given its non-authoritative nature, Wikipedia should never be used as a primary source in any serious paper. (It can be useful for tracking down primary sources though.)
– Alex Hajnal
Dec 28 '18 at 4:35
2
Most of us on Space.SE just place a hyperlink to the source on an appropriate word in the answer, instead of providing a Wikipedia-style footnote.
– Hobbes
Dec 28 '18 at 15:52
|
show 3 more comments
I was gathering data to do the math and came across this:
New Horizons is planned to come within 3,500 km (2,200 mi) of 2014 MU69, three times closer than the spacecraft's earlier encounter with Pluto. Images with a resolution as fine as 30 m (98 ft) to 70 m (230 ft) are expected. [1] [2]
Source: (486958) 2014 MU69, Wikipedia
Various estimates of 2014 MU69's diameter have been made:
25–45 km 3 (2014)
30–45 km 4 (2014)
30 km or binary pair of 15 to 20 km each 5 (2017)
Source: ibid, as cited
The resolution of the imagery to be collected is discussed in detail in another answer
Note that "Ultima Thule" is currently just a nickname for 2014 MU69. As partially quoted on the above-linked Wikipedia page:
[W]e’re going to give 2014 MU69 [sic] a real name, rather than just the “license plate” designator it has now. The details of how we’ll name it are still being worked out, but NASA announced a few weeks back that it will involve a public naming contest. [6]
Another source7 adds:
After the flyby, NASA and the New Horizons team will choose a formal name to submit to the International Astronomical Union, based in part on whether MU69 [sic] is found to be a single body, a binary pair, or perhaps a system of multiple objects.
Citations:
1 Green, Jim (12 December 2017), New Horizons Explores the Kuiper Belt, 2017 American Geophysical Union (AGU) Fall Meeting in New Orleans: 12–15.
(PDF)
2 Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (2017), New Horizons Files Flight Plan for 2019 Flyby, 6 September 2017, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.
3 Buie, Marc (15 October 2014), New Horizons HST KBO Search Results: Status Report, Space Telescope Science Institute, 23.
(PDF)
4 Lakdawalla, Emily (15 October 2014), Finally! New Horizons has a second target, Planetary Society blog, Planetary Society, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
5 Bill Keeter (3 August 2017), New Horizons' Next Target Just Got a Lot More Interesting, NASA, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.
6 Stern, Alan (28 April 2017), No Sleeping Back on Earth!, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
7 Tricia Talbert (13 March 2018), New Horizons Chooses Nickname for 'Ultimate' Flyby Target, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
Thanks for that info, exactly what i was looking for!
– TheGeneral
Dec 28 '18 at 3:53
1
Remarkable citation style.
– Boosted Nub
Dec 28 '18 at 4:08
2
@BoostedNub How so? You mean mixing inline and numbered citations? I don't consider Wikipedia authoritative so I typically don't provide full, formal citations when I reference it (just links and acknowledgement).
– Alex Hajnal
Dec 28 '18 at 4:09
1
If I were writing a formal research paper it would be different though; everything would get a proper citation, Wikipedia included. Note that given its non-authoritative nature, Wikipedia should never be used as a primary source in any serious paper. (It can be useful for tracking down primary sources though.)
– Alex Hajnal
Dec 28 '18 at 4:35
2
Most of us on Space.SE just place a hyperlink to the source on an appropriate word in the answer, instead of providing a Wikipedia-style footnote.
– Hobbes
Dec 28 '18 at 15:52
|
show 3 more comments
I was gathering data to do the math and came across this:
New Horizons is planned to come within 3,500 km (2,200 mi) of 2014 MU69, three times closer than the spacecraft's earlier encounter with Pluto. Images with a resolution as fine as 30 m (98 ft) to 70 m (230 ft) are expected. [1] [2]
Source: (486958) 2014 MU69, Wikipedia
Various estimates of 2014 MU69's diameter have been made:
25–45 km 3 (2014)
30–45 km 4 (2014)
30 km or binary pair of 15 to 20 km each 5 (2017)
Source: ibid, as cited
The resolution of the imagery to be collected is discussed in detail in another answer
Note that "Ultima Thule" is currently just a nickname for 2014 MU69. As partially quoted on the above-linked Wikipedia page:
[W]e’re going to give 2014 MU69 [sic] a real name, rather than just the “license plate” designator it has now. The details of how we’ll name it are still being worked out, but NASA announced a few weeks back that it will involve a public naming contest. [6]
Another source7 adds:
After the flyby, NASA and the New Horizons team will choose a formal name to submit to the International Astronomical Union, based in part on whether MU69 [sic] is found to be a single body, a binary pair, or perhaps a system of multiple objects.
Citations:
1 Green, Jim (12 December 2017), New Horizons Explores the Kuiper Belt, 2017 American Geophysical Union (AGU) Fall Meeting in New Orleans: 12–15.
(PDF)
2 Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (2017), New Horizons Files Flight Plan for 2019 Flyby, 6 September 2017, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.
3 Buie, Marc (15 October 2014), New Horizons HST KBO Search Results: Status Report, Space Telescope Science Institute, 23.
(PDF)
4 Lakdawalla, Emily (15 October 2014), Finally! New Horizons has a second target, Planetary Society blog, Planetary Society, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
5 Bill Keeter (3 August 2017), New Horizons' Next Target Just Got a Lot More Interesting, NASA, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.
6 Stern, Alan (28 April 2017), No Sleeping Back on Earth!, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
7 Tricia Talbert (13 March 2018), New Horizons Chooses Nickname for 'Ultimate' Flyby Target, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
I was gathering data to do the math and came across this:
New Horizons is planned to come within 3,500 km (2,200 mi) of 2014 MU69, three times closer than the spacecraft's earlier encounter with Pluto. Images with a resolution as fine as 30 m (98 ft) to 70 m (230 ft) are expected. [1] [2]
Source: (486958) 2014 MU69, Wikipedia
Various estimates of 2014 MU69's diameter have been made:
25–45 km 3 (2014)
30–45 km 4 (2014)
30 km or binary pair of 15 to 20 km each 5 (2017)
Source: ibid, as cited
The resolution of the imagery to be collected is discussed in detail in another answer
Note that "Ultima Thule" is currently just a nickname for 2014 MU69. As partially quoted on the above-linked Wikipedia page:
[W]e’re going to give 2014 MU69 [sic] a real name, rather than just the “license plate” designator it has now. The details of how we’ll name it are still being worked out, but NASA announced a few weeks back that it will involve a public naming contest. [6]
Another source7 adds:
After the flyby, NASA and the New Horizons team will choose a formal name to submit to the International Astronomical Union, based in part on whether MU69 [sic] is found to be a single body, a binary pair, or perhaps a system of multiple objects.
Citations:
1 Green, Jim (12 December 2017), New Horizons Explores the Kuiper Belt, 2017 American Geophysical Union (AGU) Fall Meeting in New Orleans: 12–15.
(PDF)
2 Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory (2017), New Horizons Files Flight Plan for 2019 Flyby, 6 September 2017, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.
3 Buie, Marc (15 October 2014), New Horizons HST KBO Search Results: Status Report, Space Telescope Science Institute, 23.
(PDF)
4 Lakdawalla, Emily (15 October 2014), Finally! New Horizons has a second target, Planetary Society blog, Planetary Society, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
5 Bill Keeter (3 August 2017), New Horizons' Next Target Just Got a Lot More Interesting, NASA, web page, retrieved 2018-12-27.
6 Stern, Alan (28 April 2017), No Sleeping Back on Earth!, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
7 Tricia Talbert (13 March 2018), New Horizons Chooses Nickname for 'Ultimate' Flyby Target, NASA, web page, retrieved 2017-12-27.
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Thanks for that info, exactly what i was looking for!
– TheGeneral
Dec 28 '18 at 3:53
1
Remarkable citation style.
– Boosted Nub
Dec 28 '18 at 4:08
2
@BoostedNub How so? You mean mixing inline and numbered citations? I don't consider Wikipedia authoritative so I typically don't provide full, formal citations when I reference it (just links and acknowledgement).
– Alex Hajnal
Dec 28 '18 at 4:09
1
If I were writing a formal research paper it would be different though; everything would get a proper citation, Wikipedia included. Note that given its non-authoritative nature, Wikipedia should never be used as a primary source in any serious paper. (It can be useful for tracking down primary sources though.)
– Alex Hajnal
Dec 28 '18 at 4:35
2
Most of us on Space.SE just place a hyperlink to the source on an appropriate word in the answer, instead of providing a Wikipedia-style footnote.
– Hobbes
Dec 28 '18 at 15:52
|
show 3 more comments
Thanks for that info, exactly what i was looking for!
– TheGeneral
Dec 28 '18 at 3:53
1
Remarkable citation style.
– Boosted Nub
Dec 28 '18 at 4:08
2
@BoostedNub How so? You mean mixing inline and numbered citations? I don't consider Wikipedia authoritative so I typically don't provide full, formal citations when I reference it (just links and acknowledgement).
– Alex Hajnal
Dec 28 '18 at 4:09
1
If I were writing a formal research paper it would be different though; everything would get a proper citation, Wikipedia included. Note that given its non-authoritative nature, Wikipedia should never be used as a primary source in any serious paper. (It can be useful for tracking down primary sources though.)
– Alex Hajnal
Dec 28 '18 at 4:35
2
Most of us on Space.SE just place a hyperlink to the source on an appropriate word in the answer, instead of providing a Wikipedia-style footnote.
– Hobbes
Dec 28 '18 at 15:52
Thanks for that info, exactly what i was looking for!
– TheGeneral
Dec 28 '18 at 3:53
Thanks for that info, exactly what i was looking for!
– TheGeneral
Dec 28 '18 at 3:53
1
1
Remarkable citation style.
– Boosted Nub
Dec 28 '18 at 4:08
Remarkable citation style.
– Boosted Nub
Dec 28 '18 at 4:08
2
2
@BoostedNub How so? You mean mixing inline and numbered citations? I don't consider Wikipedia authoritative so I typically don't provide full, formal citations when I reference it (just links and acknowledgement).
– Alex Hajnal
Dec 28 '18 at 4:09
@BoostedNub How so? You mean mixing inline and numbered citations? I don't consider Wikipedia authoritative so I typically don't provide full, formal citations when I reference it (just links and acknowledgement).
– Alex Hajnal
Dec 28 '18 at 4:09
1
1
If I were writing a formal research paper it would be different though; everything would get a proper citation, Wikipedia included. Note that given its non-authoritative nature, Wikipedia should never be used as a primary source in any serious paper. (It can be useful for tracking down primary sources though.)
– Alex Hajnal
Dec 28 '18 at 4:35
If I were writing a formal research paper it would be different though; everything would get a proper citation, Wikipedia included. Note that given its non-authoritative nature, Wikipedia should never be used as a primary source in any serious paper. (It can be useful for tracking down primary sources though.)
– Alex Hajnal
Dec 28 '18 at 4:35
2
2
Most of us on Space.SE just place a hyperlink to the source on an appropriate word in the answer, instead of providing a Wikipedia-style footnote.
– Hobbes
Dec 28 '18 at 15:52
Most of us on Space.SE just place a hyperlink to the source on an appropriate word in the answer, instead of providing a Wikipedia-style footnote.
– Hobbes
Dec 28 '18 at 15:52
|
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slightly related: How good are Lucy's cameras? Improvements since New Horizons?
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Dec 28 '18 at 4:54