Can't run ntpdate on EC2












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I have had some serious issues with time accuracy on my Ubuntu EC2 machines, with drifts of more than 60 seconds.



A possible solution is running ntpdate or ntp, but I can't get them to work on EC2:



$ sudo ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov time-b.nist.gov
23 Jun 07:17:23 ntpdate[3878]: no server suitable for synchronization found


What have I tried:




  • The ports on the specific machine I am testing are open for TCP and UDP, inbound and outbound (see below).

  • I have tested this behaviour in more than one machine.

  • I have tried different time servers.

  • I have tried both ntpdate and ntp.


Any idea how to sync the time on my machines?



Security groups



enter image description hereenter image description here



Detailed logs



$ sudo ntpdate -vd ntp.nasa.gov time-b.nist.gov
23 Jun 07:24:08 ntpdate[3890]: ntpdate 4.2.6p5@1.2349-o Wed Oct 9 19:08:07 UTC 2013 (1)
Looking for host ntp.nasa.gov and service ntp
host found : ntp-nasa.arc.nasa.gov
Looking for host time-b.nist.gov and service ntp
host found : time-b.nist.gov
transmit(198.123.30.132)
transmit(129.6.15.29)
transmit(198.123.30.132)
transmit(129.6.15.29)
transmit(198.123.30.132)
transmit(129.6.15.29)
transmit(198.123.30.132)
transmit(129.6.15.29)
transmit(198.123.30.132)
transmit(129.6.15.29)
198.123.30.132: Server dropped: no data
129.6.15.29: Server dropped: no data
server 198.123.30.132, port 123
stratum 0, precision 0, leap 00, trust 000
refid [198.123.30.132], delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
transmitted 4, in filter 4
reference time: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
originate timestamp: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
transmit timestamp: d752549e.e0fc7517 Mon, Jun 23 2014 7:24:14.878
filter delay: 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
filter offset: 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
offset 0.000000

server 129.6.15.29, port 123
stratum 0, precision 0, leap 00, trust 000
refid [129.6.15.29], delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
transmitted 4, in filter 4
reference time: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
originate timestamp: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
transmit timestamp: d752549f.142f86b3 Mon, Jun 23 2014 7:24:15.078
filter delay: 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
filter offset: 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
offset 0.000000

23 Jun 07:24:17 ntpdate[3890]: no server suitable for synchronization found









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    I have had some serious issues with time accuracy on my Ubuntu EC2 machines, with drifts of more than 60 seconds.



    A possible solution is running ntpdate or ntp, but I can't get them to work on EC2:



    $ sudo ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov time-b.nist.gov
    23 Jun 07:17:23 ntpdate[3878]: no server suitable for synchronization found


    What have I tried:




    • The ports on the specific machine I am testing are open for TCP and UDP, inbound and outbound (see below).

    • I have tested this behaviour in more than one machine.

    • I have tried different time servers.

    • I have tried both ntpdate and ntp.


    Any idea how to sync the time on my machines?



    Security groups



    enter image description hereenter image description here



    Detailed logs



    $ sudo ntpdate -vd ntp.nasa.gov time-b.nist.gov
    23 Jun 07:24:08 ntpdate[3890]: ntpdate 4.2.6p5@1.2349-o Wed Oct 9 19:08:07 UTC 2013 (1)
    Looking for host ntp.nasa.gov and service ntp
    host found : ntp-nasa.arc.nasa.gov
    Looking for host time-b.nist.gov and service ntp
    host found : time-b.nist.gov
    transmit(198.123.30.132)
    transmit(129.6.15.29)
    transmit(198.123.30.132)
    transmit(129.6.15.29)
    transmit(198.123.30.132)
    transmit(129.6.15.29)
    transmit(198.123.30.132)
    transmit(129.6.15.29)
    transmit(198.123.30.132)
    transmit(129.6.15.29)
    198.123.30.132: Server dropped: no data
    129.6.15.29: Server dropped: no data
    server 198.123.30.132, port 123
    stratum 0, precision 0, leap 00, trust 000
    refid [198.123.30.132], delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
    transmitted 4, in filter 4
    reference time: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
    originate timestamp: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
    transmit timestamp: d752549e.e0fc7517 Mon, Jun 23 2014 7:24:14.878
    filter delay: 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
    0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
    filter offset: 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
    0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
    delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
    offset 0.000000

    server 129.6.15.29, port 123
    stratum 0, precision 0, leap 00, trust 000
    refid [129.6.15.29], delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
    transmitted 4, in filter 4
    reference time: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
    originate timestamp: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
    transmit timestamp: d752549f.142f86b3 Mon, Jun 23 2014 7:24:15.078
    filter delay: 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
    0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
    filter offset: 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
    0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
    delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
    offset 0.000000

    23 Jun 07:24:17 ntpdate[3890]: no server suitable for synchronization found









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      I have had some serious issues with time accuracy on my Ubuntu EC2 machines, with drifts of more than 60 seconds.



      A possible solution is running ntpdate or ntp, but I can't get them to work on EC2:



      $ sudo ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov time-b.nist.gov
      23 Jun 07:17:23 ntpdate[3878]: no server suitable for synchronization found


      What have I tried:




      • The ports on the specific machine I am testing are open for TCP and UDP, inbound and outbound (see below).

      • I have tested this behaviour in more than one machine.

      • I have tried different time servers.

      • I have tried both ntpdate and ntp.


      Any idea how to sync the time on my machines?



      Security groups



      enter image description hereenter image description here



      Detailed logs



      $ sudo ntpdate -vd ntp.nasa.gov time-b.nist.gov
      23 Jun 07:24:08 ntpdate[3890]: ntpdate 4.2.6p5@1.2349-o Wed Oct 9 19:08:07 UTC 2013 (1)
      Looking for host ntp.nasa.gov and service ntp
      host found : ntp-nasa.arc.nasa.gov
      Looking for host time-b.nist.gov and service ntp
      host found : time-b.nist.gov
      transmit(198.123.30.132)
      transmit(129.6.15.29)
      transmit(198.123.30.132)
      transmit(129.6.15.29)
      transmit(198.123.30.132)
      transmit(129.6.15.29)
      transmit(198.123.30.132)
      transmit(129.6.15.29)
      transmit(198.123.30.132)
      transmit(129.6.15.29)
      198.123.30.132: Server dropped: no data
      129.6.15.29: Server dropped: no data
      server 198.123.30.132, port 123
      stratum 0, precision 0, leap 00, trust 000
      refid [198.123.30.132], delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
      transmitted 4, in filter 4
      reference time: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
      originate timestamp: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
      transmit timestamp: d752549e.e0fc7517 Mon, Jun 23 2014 7:24:14.878
      filter delay: 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
      0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
      filter offset: 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
      0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
      delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
      offset 0.000000

      server 129.6.15.29, port 123
      stratum 0, precision 0, leap 00, trust 000
      refid [129.6.15.29], delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
      transmitted 4, in filter 4
      reference time: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
      originate timestamp: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
      transmit timestamp: d752549f.142f86b3 Mon, Jun 23 2014 7:24:15.078
      filter delay: 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
      0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
      filter offset: 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
      0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
      delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
      offset 0.000000

      23 Jun 07:24:17 ntpdate[3890]: no server suitable for synchronization found









      share|improve this question
















      I have had some serious issues with time accuracy on my Ubuntu EC2 machines, with drifts of more than 60 seconds.



      A possible solution is running ntpdate or ntp, but I can't get them to work on EC2:



      $ sudo ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov time-b.nist.gov
      23 Jun 07:17:23 ntpdate[3878]: no server suitable for synchronization found


      What have I tried:




      • The ports on the specific machine I am testing are open for TCP and UDP, inbound and outbound (see below).

      • I have tested this behaviour in more than one machine.

      • I have tried different time servers.

      • I have tried both ntpdate and ntp.


      Any idea how to sync the time on my machines?



      Security groups



      enter image description hereenter image description here



      Detailed logs



      $ sudo ntpdate -vd ntp.nasa.gov time-b.nist.gov
      23 Jun 07:24:08 ntpdate[3890]: ntpdate 4.2.6p5@1.2349-o Wed Oct 9 19:08:07 UTC 2013 (1)
      Looking for host ntp.nasa.gov and service ntp
      host found : ntp-nasa.arc.nasa.gov
      Looking for host time-b.nist.gov and service ntp
      host found : time-b.nist.gov
      transmit(198.123.30.132)
      transmit(129.6.15.29)
      transmit(198.123.30.132)
      transmit(129.6.15.29)
      transmit(198.123.30.132)
      transmit(129.6.15.29)
      transmit(198.123.30.132)
      transmit(129.6.15.29)
      transmit(198.123.30.132)
      transmit(129.6.15.29)
      198.123.30.132: Server dropped: no data
      129.6.15.29: Server dropped: no data
      server 198.123.30.132, port 123
      stratum 0, precision 0, leap 00, trust 000
      refid [198.123.30.132], delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
      transmitted 4, in filter 4
      reference time: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
      originate timestamp: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
      transmit timestamp: d752549e.e0fc7517 Mon, Jun 23 2014 7:24:14.878
      filter delay: 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
      0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
      filter offset: 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
      0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
      delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
      offset 0.000000

      server 129.6.15.29, port 123
      stratum 0, precision 0, leap 00, trust 000
      refid [129.6.15.29], delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
      transmitted 4, in filter 4
      reference time: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
      originate timestamp: 00000000.00000000 Mon, Jan 1 1900 0:00:00.000
      transmit timestamp: d752549f.142f86b3 Mon, Jun 23 2014 7:24:15.078
      filter delay: 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
      0.00000 0.00000 0.00000 0.00000
      filter offset: 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
      0.000000 0.000000 0.000000 0.000000
      delay 0.00000, dispersion 64.00000
      offset 0.000000

      23 Jun 07:24:17 ntpdate[3890]: no server suitable for synchronization found






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          Your security groups look like the VPC version, if that's the case I had to open UDP123/UDP* on my Network ACLs in order for it to work. VPCs have two layers of packet filtering, the Network ACL followed by the Security Groups. The SGs are STATEFUL (do not require inbound rules when connecting out first) but the NACLs are STATELESS (require rules to receive packets). Once I added the appropriate configuration line NTP worked perfectly.



          I only added the line to my external NACL which run my service instances so they can access the outside NTP, they then run an NTP proxy for the rest of my network.



          Good luck!






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            In EC2 the -u flag is required:



            $ sudo ntpdate -u ntp.nasa.gov time-b.nist.gov
            24 Jun 11:16:33 ntpdate[27714]: adjust time server 129.6.15.29 offset 0.047272 sec


            From the manual:



               -u     Direct ntpdate to use an unprivileged port for outgoing packets.  This is most useful when behind a firewall that blocks incoming traffic to
            privileged ports, and you want to synchronise with hosts beyond the firewall. Note that the -d option always uses unprivileged ports.





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              Amazon provides Amazon Time Sync Service which eliminates the time drift you are experiencing. The overall steps to take on each EC2 instance are:




              1. Remove NTP using sudo apt-get remove ntp

              2. Install Chrony using sudo apt install chrony

              3. use sudo vim /etc/chrony/chrony.conf to edit the file to include server 169.254.169.123 prefer iburst

              4. Restart Chrony using sudo /etc/init.d/chrony restart

              5. Verify Chrony is using the correct IP using chronyc sources -v and verifying that the output includes '^* 169.254.169.123'

              6. Identify the best city to use by browsing the directories in ls /usr/share/zoneinfo/

              7. Update the timezone from UTC using the path from the previous step, such as sudo timedatectl set-timezone /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago






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                Your security groups look like the VPC version, if that's the case I had to open UDP123/UDP* on my Network ACLs in order for it to work. VPCs have two layers of packet filtering, the Network ACL followed by the Security Groups. The SGs are STATEFUL (do not require inbound rules when connecting out first) but the NACLs are STATELESS (require rules to receive packets). Once I added the appropriate configuration line NTP worked perfectly.



                I only added the line to my external NACL which run my service instances so they can access the outside NTP, they then run an NTP proxy for the rest of my network.



                Good luck!






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                  Your security groups look like the VPC version, if that's the case I had to open UDP123/UDP* on my Network ACLs in order for it to work. VPCs have two layers of packet filtering, the Network ACL followed by the Security Groups. The SGs are STATEFUL (do not require inbound rules when connecting out first) but the NACLs are STATELESS (require rules to receive packets). Once I added the appropriate configuration line NTP worked perfectly.



                  I only added the line to my external NACL which run my service instances so they can access the outside NTP, they then run an NTP proxy for the rest of my network.



                  Good luck!






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                    Your security groups look like the VPC version, if that's the case I had to open UDP123/UDP* on my Network ACLs in order for it to work. VPCs have two layers of packet filtering, the Network ACL followed by the Security Groups. The SGs are STATEFUL (do not require inbound rules when connecting out first) but the NACLs are STATELESS (require rules to receive packets). Once I added the appropriate configuration line NTP worked perfectly.



                    I only added the line to my external NACL which run my service instances so they can access the outside NTP, they then run an NTP proxy for the rest of my network.



                    Good luck!






                    share|improve this answer













                    Your security groups look like the VPC version, if that's the case I had to open UDP123/UDP* on my Network ACLs in order for it to work. VPCs have two layers of packet filtering, the Network ACL followed by the Security Groups. The SGs are STATEFUL (do not require inbound rules when connecting out first) but the NACLs are STATELESS (require rules to receive packets). Once I added the appropriate configuration line NTP worked perfectly.



                    I only added the line to my external NACL which run my service instances so they can access the outside NTP, they then run an NTP proxy for the rest of my network.



                    Good luck!







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                        In EC2 the -u flag is required:



                        $ sudo ntpdate -u ntp.nasa.gov time-b.nist.gov
                        24 Jun 11:16:33 ntpdate[27714]: adjust time server 129.6.15.29 offset 0.047272 sec


                        From the manual:



                           -u     Direct ntpdate to use an unprivileged port for outgoing packets.  This is most useful when behind a firewall that blocks incoming traffic to
                        privileged ports, and you want to synchronise with hosts beyond the firewall. Note that the -d option always uses unprivileged ports.





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                          In EC2 the -u flag is required:



                          $ sudo ntpdate -u ntp.nasa.gov time-b.nist.gov
                          24 Jun 11:16:33 ntpdate[27714]: adjust time server 129.6.15.29 offset 0.047272 sec


                          From the manual:



                             -u     Direct ntpdate to use an unprivileged port for outgoing packets.  This is most useful when behind a firewall that blocks incoming traffic to
                          privileged ports, and you want to synchronise with hosts beyond the firewall. Note that the -d option always uses unprivileged ports.





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                            In EC2 the -u flag is required:



                            $ sudo ntpdate -u ntp.nasa.gov time-b.nist.gov
                            24 Jun 11:16:33 ntpdate[27714]: adjust time server 129.6.15.29 offset 0.047272 sec


                            From the manual:



                               -u     Direct ntpdate to use an unprivileged port for outgoing packets.  This is most useful when behind a firewall that blocks incoming traffic to
                            privileged ports, and you want to synchronise with hosts beyond the firewall. Note that the -d option always uses unprivileged ports.





                            share|improve this answer













                            In EC2 the -u flag is required:



                            $ sudo ntpdate -u ntp.nasa.gov time-b.nist.gov
                            24 Jun 11:16:33 ntpdate[27714]: adjust time server 129.6.15.29 offset 0.047272 sec


                            From the manual:



                               -u     Direct ntpdate to use an unprivileged port for outgoing packets.  This is most useful when behind a firewall that blocks incoming traffic to
                            privileged ports, and you want to synchronise with hosts beyond the firewall. Note that the -d option always uses unprivileged ports.






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                                Amazon provides Amazon Time Sync Service which eliminates the time drift you are experiencing. The overall steps to take on each EC2 instance are:




                                1. Remove NTP using sudo apt-get remove ntp

                                2. Install Chrony using sudo apt install chrony

                                3. use sudo vim /etc/chrony/chrony.conf to edit the file to include server 169.254.169.123 prefer iburst

                                4. Restart Chrony using sudo /etc/init.d/chrony restart

                                5. Verify Chrony is using the correct IP using chronyc sources -v and verifying that the output includes '^* 169.254.169.123'

                                6. Identify the best city to use by browsing the directories in ls /usr/share/zoneinfo/

                                7. Update the timezone from UTC using the path from the previous step, such as sudo timedatectl set-timezone /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago






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                                  Amazon provides Amazon Time Sync Service which eliminates the time drift you are experiencing. The overall steps to take on each EC2 instance are:




                                  1. Remove NTP using sudo apt-get remove ntp

                                  2. Install Chrony using sudo apt install chrony

                                  3. use sudo vim /etc/chrony/chrony.conf to edit the file to include server 169.254.169.123 prefer iburst

                                  4. Restart Chrony using sudo /etc/init.d/chrony restart

                                  5. Verify Chrony is using the correct IP using chronyc sources -v and verifying that the output includes '^* 169.254.169.123'

                                  6. Identify the best city to use by browsing the directories in ls /usr/share/zoneinfo/

                                  7. Update the timezone from UTC using the path from the previous step, such as sudo timedatectl set-timezone /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago






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                                    Amazon provides Amazon Time Sync Service which eliminates the time drift you are experiencing. The overall steps to take on each EC2 instance are:




                                    1. Remove NTP using sudo apt-get remove ntp

                                    2. Install Chrony using sudo apt install chrony

                                    3. use sudo vim /etc/chrony/chrony.conf to edit the file to include server 169.254.169.123 prefer iburst

                                    4. Restart Chrony using sudo /etc/init.d/chrony restart

                                    5. Verify Chrony is using the correct IP using chronyc sources -v and verifying that the output includes '^* 169.254.169.123'

                                    6. Identify the best city to use by browsing the directories in ls /usr/share/zoneinfo/

                                    7. Update the timezone from UTC using the path from the previous step, such as sudo timedatectl set-timezone /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago






                                    share|improve this answer















                                    Amazon provides Amazon Time Sync Service which eliminates the time drift you are experiencing. The overall steps to take on each EC2 instance are:




                                    1. Remove NTP using sudo apt-get remove ntp

                                    2. Install Chrony using sudo apt install chrony

                                    3. use sudo vim /etc/chrony/chrony.conf to edit the file to include server 169.254.169.123 prefer iburst

                                    4. Restart Chrony using sudo /etc/init.d/chrony restart

                                    5. Verify Chrony is using the correct IP using chronyc sources -v and verifying that the output includes '^* 169.254.169.123'

                                    6. Identify the best city to use by browsing the directories in ls /usr/share/zoneinfo/

                                    7. Update the timezone from UTC using the path from the previous step, such as sudo timedatectl set-timezone /usr/share/zoneinfo/America/Chicago







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