Proving that for $sigmain S_n$ one has $left|prod_{i<j} frac{sigma(j)-sigma(i)}{j-i}right|=1$












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Could someone please demonstrate why this property is valid?




Given $sigmain S_n$



$$left|prod_{i<j} frac{sigma(j)-sigma(i)}{j-i}right|=1$$











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    Hint: Given $i,j$, find $k,l$ such that $sigma(k) = i$ and $sigma(l) = j$. Use this to show that the set of possible numerators and denominators are the same up to a sign.
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Could someone please demonstrate why this property is valid?




Given $sigmain S_n$



$$left|prod_{i<j} frac{sigma(j)-sigma(i)}{j-i}right|=1$$











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Could someone please demonstrate why this property is valid?




Given $sigmain S_n$



$$left|prod_{i<j} frac{sigma(j)-sigma(i)}{j-i}right|=1$$











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Could someone please demonstrate why this property is valid?




Given $sigmain S_n$



$$left|prod_{i<j} frac{sigma(j)-sigma(i)}{j-i}right|=1$$








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    Hint: Given $i,j$, find $k,l$ such that $sigma(k) = i$ and $sigma(l) = j$. Use this to show that the set of possible numerators and denominators are the same up to a sign.
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    Hint: Given $i,j$, find $k,l$ such that $sigma(k) = i$ and $sigma(l) = j$. Use this to show that the set of possible numerators and denominators are the same up to a sign.
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Hint: Given $i,j$, find $k,l$ such that $sigma(k) = i$ and $sigma(l) = j$. Use this to show that the set of possible numerators and denominators are the same up to a sign.
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Hint: Given $i,j$, find $k,l$ such that $sigma(k) = i$ and $sigma(l) = j$. Use this to show that the set of possible numerators and denominators are the same up to a sign.
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This is because $sigma$ is a permutation, and therefore a one-to-one correspondence.



You can rewrite the product in terms of numerators and denominators by way of
$$
begin{align*}
leftlvertprod_{i<j}frac{sigma(j)-sigma(i)}{j-i}rightrvert&=frac{prodlimits_{i<j}leftlvertsigma(j)-sigma(i)rightrvert}{prodlimits_{i<j}(j-i)}.
end{align*}
$$

Re-index the product in the numerator by letting $h=sigma^{-1}(i)$ and $k=sigma^{-1}(j)$. Note that we can't assume $h<k$; however, we can still index the product in the numerator over all sets ${h,k}$ of two distinct integers in $[1,n]$.



This reindexing yields
$$
prod_{i<j}lvertsigma(j)-sigma(i)rvert=prod_{{h,k}}lvert k-hrvert=prod_{h<k}(k-h).
$$






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    The middle is the product over all unordered pairs of distinct integers. All that we do to get to the right side is say "without loss of generality, assume that $k$ is the larger of the two and $h$ is the smaller."
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Detailed proof: See Exercise 5.13 (a) in my Notes on the combinatorial fundamentals of algebra, 10th of January 2019. The claim I prove there is more general: I show that if $x_1, x_2, ldots, x_n$ are any $n$ complex numbers, and if $sigma$ is any permutation of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$, then
begin{equation}
prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)
= left(-1right)^{sigma} cdot prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright) ,
label{darij1.eq.1}
tag{1}
end{equation}

where $left(-1right)^{sigma}$ denotes the sign of the permutation $sigma$.
In order to obtain your equation from eqref{darij1.eq.1}, you have to set $x_i = i$ and take absolute values (so that the sign $left(-1right)^{sigma}$ disappears, since its absolute value is $1$).



Let me sketch how to quickly prove the weaker equality
begin{equation}
left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
= left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|
label{darij1.eq.2}
tag{2}
end{equation}

(which is still sufficient for your purposes). This is what @NickPeterson has already suggested, but my more rigorous notations shall hopefully close the cracks which let confusion slip through.



First of all, the absolute value of a product equals the product of the absolute values of the factors; thus,
begin{align}
left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
= prod_{i < j} left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right| .
end{align}



Next, let $P$ be the set of all pairs $left(i, jright)$ of integers $i, j in left{1,2,ldots,nright}$ satisfying $i < j$; also, let $G$ be the set of all $2$-element subsets of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$. Note that the product sign "$prodlimits_{i < j}$" is equivalent to "$prodlimits_{left(i, jright) in P}$".



The two sets $P$ and $G$ have the same size (namely, $dbinom{n}{2} = nleft(n-1right) / 2$), and this is no coincidence: There is a bijection from $P$ to $G$. This bijection simply maps each pair $left(i, jright)$ to the two-element set $left{i, jright}$. The inverse of this bijection maps each two-element set to the pair consisting of its smaller element and its larger element (in this order).



The permutation $sigma$ of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$ gives rise to a permutation $sigma_*$ of the set $G$, which sends each two-element subset $I$ to $sigmaleft(Iright)$ (in other words, it sends each two-element subset $left{i,jright}$ to $left{sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright)right}$). Why is this a permutation of $G$? Well, again, its inverse is easy to find (it does the same thing, just with $sigma^{-1}$ instead of $sigma$). So $sigma_*$ is a permutation of $G$, i.e., a bijection from $G$ to $G$.



Now the crucial insight: If $left(i, jright) in P$, then the absolute value $left| x_i - x_j right|$ depends only on the set $left{i, jright} in G$ (not on the pair $left(i, jright) in P$). In other words, if $I in G$ is any two-element subset, then we can define a real number $f_I$ by setting
begin{align}
f_I = left| x_i - x_j right|,
qquad text{ where $I$ is written as $I = left{i, jright}$}.
end{align}

In order to formally prove this, you should recall that there are exactly two ways of writing $I$ as $I = left{i, jright}$, and check that these two ways lead to the same value of $left| x_i - x_j right|$ (easy: these two ways only differ in the order of elements, and we have $left| x_a - x_b right| = left| x_b - x_a right|$).



Note that every $left(i, jright) in P$ satisfies $sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right) = left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}$ and thus
begin{align}
f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)}
= f_{left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}}
= left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right|
label{darij1.eq.3}
tag{3}
end{align}

(by the definition of $f_{left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}}$).



Now,
begin{align}
left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
& = prod_{i < j} left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right| \
& = prod_{left(i, jright) in P} underbrace{left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right|}_{substack{ = f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)} \ left(text{by eqref{darij1.eq.3}}right)}} \
& qquad left(text{since "$prodlimits_{i < j}$" is equivalent to "$prodlimits_{left(i, jright) in P}$"}right) \
& = prod_{left(i, jright) in P} f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)} \
& = prod_{I in G} f_{sigma_* left(Iright)}
end{align}

(here, we have substituted $I$ for $left{ i, j right}$ in the product, since the map $G to P, left(i, jright) mapsto left{ i, j right}$ is a bijection).
Thus,
begin{align}
left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
= prod_{I in G} f_{sigma_* left(Iright)} = prod_{I in G} f_I
label{darij1.eq.4}
tag{4}
end{align}

(here, we have substituted $I$ for $sigma_* left(Iright)$ in the product, since $sigma_*$ is a bijection).



Note that the right hand side of eqref{darij1.eq.4} does not depend on $sigma$. Applying the same reasoning to the permutation $operatorname{id}$ instead of $sigma$, we thus obtain
begin{align}
left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{operatorname{id}left(iright)} - x_{operatorname{id}left(jright)}right)right|
= prod_{I in G} f_I .
end{align}

In other words,
begin{align}
left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|
= prod_{I in G} f_I .
end{align}

Comparing this equality with eqref{darij1.eq.4}, we obtain
$left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
= left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|$
.
Thus, eqref{darij1.eq.2} is proven.






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    This is because $sigma$ is a permutation, and therefore a one-to-one correspondence.



    You can rewrite the product in terms of numerators and denominators by way of
    $$
    begin{align*}
    leftlvertprod_{i<j}frac{sigma(j)-sigma(i)}{j-i}rightrvert&=frac{prodlimits_{i<j}leftlvertsigma(j)-sigma(i)rightrvert}{prodlimits_{i<j}(j-i)}.
    end{align*}
    $$

    Re-index the product in the numerator by letting $h=sigma^{-1}(i)$ and $k=sigma^{-1}(j)$. Note that we can't assume $h<k$; however, we can still index the product in the numerator over all sets ${h,k}$ of two distinct integers in $[1,n]$.



    This reindexing yields
    $$
    prod_{i<j}lvertsigma(j)-sigma(i)rvert=prod_{{h,k}}lvert k-hrvert=prod_{h<k}(k-h).
    $$






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      Good evening Mr Peterson, thank you so much for replying. I can't understand the last passage of the row below 'reindexing the yields'. I'm at the first year, I apologyse for asking something that maybe is obvious.
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      The middle is the product over all unordered pairs of distinct integers. All that we do to get to the right side is say "without loss of generality, assume that $k$ is the larger of the two and $h$ is the smaller."
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    This is because $sigma$ is a permutation, and therefore a one-to-one correspondence.



    You can rewrite the product in terms of numerators and denominators by way of
    $$
    begin{align*}
    leftlvertprod_{i<j}frac{sigma(j)-sigma(i)}{j-i}rightrvert&=frac{prodlimits_{i<j}leftlvertsigma(j)-sigma(i)rightrvert}{prodlimits_{i<j}(j-i)}.
    end{align*}
    $$

    Re-index the product in the numerator by letting $h=sigma^{-1}(i)$ and $k=sigma^{-1}(j)$. Note that we can't assume $h<k$; however, we can still index the product in the numerator over all sets ${h,k}$ of two distinct integers in $[1,n]$.



    This reindexing yields
    $$
    prod_{i<j}lvertsigma(j)-sigma(i)rvert=prod_{{h,k}}lvert k-hrvert=prod_{h<k}(k-h).
    $$






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      Good evening Mr Peterson, thank you so much for replying. I can't understand the last passage of the row below 'reindexing the yields'. I'm at the first year, I apologyse for asking something that maybe is obvious.
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      – Milena Carlini
      Jan 15 at 19:05










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      The middle is the product over all unordered pairs of distinct integers. All that we do to get to the right side is say "without loss of generality, assume that $k$ is the larger of the two and $h$ is the smaller."
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      – Nick Peterson
      Jan 15 at 19:27














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    This is because $sigma$ is a permutation, and therefore a one-to-one correspondence.



    You can rewrite the product in terms of numerators and denominators by way of
    $$
    begin{align*}
    leftlvertprod_{i<j}frac{sigma(j)-sigma(i)}{j-i}rightrvert&=frac{prodlimits_{i<j}leftlvertsigma(j)-sigma(i)rightrvert}{prodlimits_{i<j}(j-i)}.
    end{align*}
    $$

    Re-index the product in the numerator by letting $h=sigma^{-1}(i)$ and $k=sigma^{-1}(j)$. Note that we can't assume $h<k$; however, we can still index the product in the numerator over all sets ${h,k}$ of two distinct integers in $[1,n]$.



    This reindexing yields
    $$
    prod_{i<j}lvertsigma(j)-sigma(i)rvert=prod_{{h,k}}lvert k-hrvert=prod_{h<k}(k-h).
    $$






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    This is because $sigma$ is a permutation, and therefore a one-to-one correspondence.



    You can rewrite the product in terms of numerators and denominators by way of
    $$
    begin{align*}
    leftlvertprod_{i<j}frac{sigma(j)-sigma(i)}{j-i}rightrvert&=frac{prodlimits_{i<j}leftlvertsigma(j)-sigma(i)rightrvert}{prodlimits_{i<j}(j-i)}.
    end{align*}
    $$

    Re-index the product in the numerator by letting $h=sigma^{-1}(i)$ and $k=sigma^{-1}(j)$. Note that we can't assume $h<k$; however, we can still index the product in the numerator over all sets ${h,k}$ of two distinct integers in $[1,n]$.



    This reindexing yields
    $$
    prod_{i<j}lvertsigma(j)-sigma(i)rvert=prod_{{h,k}}lvert k-hrvert=prod_{h<k}(k-h).
    $$







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      Good evening Mr Peterson, thank you so much for replying. I can't understand the last passage of the row below 'reindexing the yields'. I'm at the first year, I apologyse for asking something that maybe is obvious.
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      – Milena Carlini
      Jan 15 at 19:05










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      The middle is the product over all unordered pairs of distinct integers. All that we do to get to the right side is say "without loss of generality, assume that $k$ is the larger of the two and $h$ is the smaller."
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      – Nick Peterson
      Jan 15 at 19:27


















    • $begingroup$
      Good evening Mr Peterson, thank you so much for replying. I can't understand the last passage of the row below 'reindexing the yields'. I'm at the first year, I apologyse for asking something that maybe is obvious.
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      – Milena Carlini
      Jan 15 at 19:05










    • $begingroup$
      The middle is the product over all unordered pairs of distinct integers. All that we do to get to the right side is say "without loss of generality, assume that $k$ is the larger of the two and $h$ is the smaller."
      $endgroup$
      – Nick Peterson
      Jan 15 at 19:27
















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    Good evening Mr Peterson, thank you so much for replying. I can't understand the last passage of the row below 'reindexing the yields'. I'm at the first year, I apologyse for asking something that maybe is obvious.
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    – Milena Carlini
    Jan 15 at 19:05




    $begingroup$
    Good evening Mr Peterson, thank you so much for replying. I can't understand the last passage of the row below 'reindexing the yields'. I'm at the first year, I apologyse for asking something that maybe is obvious.
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    – Milena Carlini
    Jan 15 at 19:05












    $begingroup$
    The middle is the product over all unordered pairs of distinct integers. All that we do to get to the right side is say "without loss of generality, assume that $k$ is the larger of the two and $h$ is the smaller."
    $endgroup$
    – Nick Peterson
    Jan 15 at 19:27




    $begingroup$
    The middle is the product over all unordered pairs of distinct integers. All that we do to get to the right side is say "without loss of generality, assume that $k$ is the larger of the two and $h$ is the smaller."
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    – Nick Peterson
    Jan 15 at 19:27











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    Detailed proof: See Exercise 5.13 (a) in my Notes on the combinatorial fundamentals of algebra, 10th of January 2019. The claim I prove there is more general: I show that if $x_1, x_2, ldots, x_n$ are any $n$ complex numbers, and if $sigma$ is any permutation of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$, then
    begin{equation}
    prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)
    = left(-1right)^{sigma} cdot prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright) ,
    label{darij1.eq.1}
    tag{1}
    end{equation}

    where $left(-1right)^{sigma}$ denotes the sign of the permutation $sigma$.
    In order to obtain your equation from eqref{darij1.eq.1}, you have to set $x_i = i$ and take absolute values (so that the sign $left(-1right)^{sigma}$ disappears, since its absolute value is $1$).



    Let me sketch how to quickly prove the weaker equality
    begin{equation}
    left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
    = left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|
    label{darij1.eq.2}
    tag{2}
    end{equation}

    (which is still sufficient for your purposes). This is what @NickPeterson has already suggested, but my more rigorous notations shall hopefully close the cracks which let confusion slip through.



    First of all, the absolute value of a product equals the product of the absolute values of the factors; thus,
    begin{align}
    left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
    = prod_{i < j} left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right| .
    end{align}



    Next, let $P$ be the set of all pairs $left(i, jright)$ of integers $i, j in left{1,2,ldots,nright}$ satisfying $i < j$; also, let $G$ be the set of all $2$-element subsets of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$. Note that the product sign "$prodlimits_{i < j}$" is equivalent to "$prodlimits_{left(i, jright) in P}$".



    The two sets $P$ and $G$ have the same size (namely, $dbinom{n}{2} = nleft(n-1right) / 2$), and this is no coincidence: There is a bijection from $P$ to $G$. This bijection simply maps each pair $left(i, jright)$ to the two-element set $left{i, jright}$. The inverse of this bijection maps each two-element set to the pair consisting of its smaller element and its larger element (in this order).



    The permutation $sigma$ of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$ gives rise to a permutation $sigma_*$ of the set $G$, which sends each two-element subset $I$ to $sigmaleft(Iright)$ (in other words, it sends each two-element subset $left{i,jright}$ to $left{sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright)right}$). Why is this a permutation of $G$? Well, again, its inverse is easy to find (it does the same thing, just with $sigma^{-1}$ instead of $sigma$). So $sigma_*$ is a permutation of $G$, i.e., a bijection from $G$ to $G$.



    Now the crucial insight: If $left(i, jright) in P$, then the absolute value $left| x_i - x_j right|$ depends only on the set $left{i, jright} in G$ (not on the pair $left(i, jright) in P$). In other words, if $I in G$ is any two-element subset, then we can define a real number $f_I$ by setting
    begin{align}
    f_I = left| x_i - x_j right|,
    qquad text{ where $I$ is written as $I = left{i, jright}$}.
    end{align}

    In order to formally prove this, you should recall that there are exactly two ways of writing $I$ as $I = left{i, jright}$, and check that these two ways lead to the same value of $left| x_i - x_j right|$ (easy: these two ways only differ in the order of elements, and we have $left| x_a - x_b right| = left| x_b - x_a right|$).



    Note that every $left(i, jright) in P$ satisfies $sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right) = left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}$ and thus
    begin{align}
    f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)}
    = f_{left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}}
    = left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right|
    label{darij1.eq.3}
    tag{3}
    end{align}

    (by the definition of $f_{left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}}$).



    Now,
    begin{align}
    left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
    & = prod_{i < j} left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right| \
    & = prod_{left(i, jright) in P} underbrace{left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right|}_{substack{ = f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)} \ left(text{by eqref{darij1.eq.3}}right)}} \
    & qquad left(text{since "$prodlimits_{i < j}$" is equivalent to "$prodlimits_{left(i, jright) in P}$"}right) \
    & = prod_{left(i, jright) in P} f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)} \
    & = prod_{I in G} f_{sigma_* left(Iright)}
    end{align}

    (here, we have substituted $I$ for $left{ i, j right}$ in the product, since the map $G to P, left(i, jright) mapsto left{ i, j right}$ is a bijection).
    Thus,
    begin{align}
    left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
    = prod_{I in G} f_{sigma_* left(Iright)} = prod_{I in G} f_I
    label{darij1.eq.4}
    tag{4}
    end{align}

    (here, we have substituted $I$ for $sigma_* left(Iright)$ in the product, since $sigma_*$ is a bijection).



    Note that the right hand side of eqref{darij1.eq.4} does not depend on $sigma$. Applying the same reasoning to the permutation $operatorname{id}$ instead of $sigma$, we thus obtain
    begin{align}
    left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{operatorname{id}left(iright)} - x_{operatorname{id}left(jright)}right)right|
    = prod_{I in G} f_I .
    end{align}

    In other words,
    begin{align}
    left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|
    = prod_{I in G} f_I .
    end{align}

    Comparing this equality with eqref{darij1.eq.4}, we obtain
    $left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
    = left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|$
    .
    Thus, eqref{darij1.eq.2} is proven.






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      Detailed proof: See Exercise 5.13 (a) in my Notes on the combinatorial fundamentals of algebra, 10th of January 2019. The claim I prove there is more general: I show that if $x_1, x_2, ldots, x_n$ are any $n$ complex numbers, and if $sigma$ is any permutation of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$, then
      begin{equation}
      prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)
      = left(-1right)^{sigma} cdot prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright) ,
      label{darij1.eq.1}
      tag{1}
      end{equation}

      where $left(-1right)^{sigma}$ denotes the sign of the permutation $sigma$.
      In order to obtain your equation from eqref{darij1.eq.1}, you have to set $x_i = i$ and take absolute values (so that the sign $left(-1right)^{sigma}$ disappears, since its absolute value is $1$).



      Let me sketch how to quickly prove the weaker equality
      begin{equation}
      left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
      = left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|
      label{darij1.eq.2}
      tag{2}
      end{equation}

      (which is still sufficient for your purposes). This is what @NickPeterson has already suggested, but my more rigorous notations shall hopefully close the cracks which let confusion slip through.



      First of all, the absolute value of a product equals the product of the absolute values of the factors; thus,
      begin{align}
      left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
      = prod_{i < j} left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right| .
      end{align}



      Next, let $P$ be the set of all pairs $left(i, jright)$ of integers $i, j in left{1,2,ldots,nright}$ satisfying $i < j$; also, let $G$ be the set of all $2$-element subsets of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$. Note that the product sign "$prodlimits_{i < j}$" is equivalent to "$prodlimits_{left(i, jright) in P}$".



      The two sets $P$ and $G$ have the same size (namely, $dbinom{n}{2} = nleft(n-1right) / 2$), and this is no coincidence: There is a bijection from $P$ to $G$. This bijection simply maps each pair $left(i, jright)$ to the two-element set $left{i, jright}$. The inverse of this bijection maps each two-element set to the pair consisting of its smaller element and its larger element (in this order).



      The permutation $sigma$ of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$ gives rise to a permutation $sigma_*$ of the set $G$, which sends each two-element subset $I$ to $sigmaleft(Iright)$ (in other words, it sends each two-element subset $left{i,jright}$ to $left{sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright)right}$). Why is this a permutation of $G$? Well, again, its inverse is easy to find (it does the same thing, just with $sigma^{-1}$ instead of $sigma$). So $sigma_*$ is a permutation of $G$, i.e., a bijection from $G$ to $G$.



      Now the crucial insight: If $left(i, jright) in P$, then the absolute value $left| x_i - x_j right|$ depends only on the set $left{i, jright} in G$ (not on the pair $left(i, jright) in P$). In other words, if $I in G$ is any two-element subset, then we can define a real number $f_I$ by setting
      begin{align}
      f_I = left| x_i - x_j right|,
      qquad text{ where $I$ is written as $I = left{i, jright}$}.
      end{align}

      In order to formally prove this, you should recall that there are exactly two ways of writing $I$ as $I = left{i, jright}$, and check that these two ways lead to the same value of $left| x_i - x_j right|$ (easy: these two ways only differ in the order of elements, and we have $left| x_a - x_b right| = left| x_b - x_a right|$).



      Note that every $left(i, jright) in P$ satisfies $sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right) = left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}$ and thus
      begin{align}
      f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)}
      = f_{left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}}
      = left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right|
      label{darij1.eq.3}
      tag{3}
      end{align}

      (by the definition of $f_{left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}}$).



      Now,
      begin{align}
      left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
      & = prod_{i < j} left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right| \
      & = prod_{left(i, jright) in P} underbrace{left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right|}_{substack{ = f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)} \ left(text{by eqref{darij1.eq.3}}right)}} \
      & qquad left(text{since "$prodlimits_{i < j}$" is equivalent to "$prodlimits_{left(i, jright) in P}$"}right) \
      & = prod_{left(i, jright) in P} f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)} \
      & = prod_{I in G} f_{sigma_* left(Iright)}
      end{align}

      (here, we have substituted $I$ for $left{ i, j right}$ in the product, since the map $G to P, left(i, jright) mapsto left{ i, j right}$ is a bijection).
      Thus,
      begin{align}
      left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
      = prod_{I in G} f_{sigma_* left(Iright)} = prod_{I in G} f_I
      label{darij1.eq.4}
      tag{4}
      end{align}

      (here, we have substituted $I$ for $sigma_* left(Iright)$ in the product, since $sigma_*$ is a bijection).



      Note that the right hand side of eqref{darij1.eq.4} does not depend on $sigma$. Applying the same reasoning to the permutation $operatorname{id}$ instead of $sigma$, we thus obtain
      begin{align}
      left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{operatorname{id}left(iright)} - x_{operatorname{id}left(jright)}right)right|
      = prod_{I in G} f_I .
      end{align}

      In other words,
      begin{align}
      left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|
      = prod_{I in G} f_I .
      end{align}

      Comparing this equality with eqref{darij1.eq.4}, we obtain
      $left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
      = left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|$
      .
      Thus, eqref{darij1.eq.2} is proven.






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        Detailed proof: See Exercise 5.13 (a) in my Notes on the combinatorial fundamentals of algebra, 10th of January 2019. The claim I prove there is more general: I show that if $x_1, x_2, ldots, x_n$ are any $n$ complex numbers, and if $sigma$ is any permutation of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$, then
        begin{equation}
        prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)
        = left(-1right)^{sigma} cdot prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright) ,
        label{darij1.eq.1}
        tag{1}
        end{equation}

        where $left(-1right)^{sigma}$ denotes the sign of the permutation $sigma$.
        In order to obtain your equation from eqref{darij1.eq.1}, you have to set $x_i = i$ and take absolute values (so that the sign $left(-1right)^{sigma}$ disappears, since its absolute value is $1$).



        Let me sketch how to quickly prove the weaker equality
        begin{equation}
        left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
        = left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|
        label{darij1.eq.2}
        tag{2}
        end{equation}

        (which is still sufficient for your purposes). This is what @NickPeterson has already suggested, but my more rigorous notations shall hopefully close the cracks which let confusion slip through.



        First of all, the absolute value of a product equals the product of the absolute values of the factors; thus,
        begin{align}
        left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
        = prod_{i < j} left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right| .
        end{align}



        Next, let $P$ be the set of all pairs $left(i, jright)$ of integers $i, j in left{1,2,ldots,nright}$ satisfying $i < j$; also, let $G$ be the set of all $2$-element subsets of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$. Note that the product sign "$prodlimits_{i < j}$" is equivalent to "$prodlimits_{left(i, jright) in P}$".



        The two sets $P$ and $G$ have the same size (namely, $dbinom{n}{2} = nleft(n-1right) / 2$), and this is no coincidence: There is a bijection from $P$ to $G$. This bijection simply maps each pair $left(i, jright)$ to the two-element set $left{i, jright}$. The inverse of this bijection maps each two-element set to the pair consisting of its smaller element and its larger element (in this order).



        The permutation $sigma$ of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$ gives rise to a permutation $sigma_*$ of the set $G$, which sends each two-element subset $I$ to $sigmaleft(Iright)$ (in other words, it sends each two-element subset $left{i,jright}$ to $left{sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright)right}$). Why is this a permutation of $G$? Well, again, its inverse is easy to find (it does the same thing, just with $sigma^{-1}$ instead of $sigma$). So $sigma_*$ is a permutation of $G$, i.e., a bijection from $G$ to $G$.



        Now the crucial insight: If $left(i, jright) in P$, then the absolute value $left| x_i - x_j right|$ depends only on the set $left{i, jright} in G$ (not on the pair $left(i, jright) in P$). In other words, if $I in G$ is any two-element subset, then we can define a real number $f_I$ by setting
        begin{align}
        f_I = left| x_i - x_j right|,
        qquad text{ where $I$ is written as $I = left{i, jright}$}.
        end{align}

        In order to formally prove this, you should recall that there are exactly two ways of writing $I$ as $I = left{i, jright}$, and check that these two ways lead to the same value of $left| x_i - x_j right|$ (easy: these two ways only differ in the order of elements, and we have $left| x_a - x_b right| = left| x_b - x_a right|$).



        Note that every $left(i, jright) in P$ satisfies $sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right) = left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}$ and thus
        begin{align}
        f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)}
        = f_{left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}}
        = left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right|
        label{darij1.eq.3}
        tag{3}
        end{align}

        (by the definition of $f_{left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}}$).



        Now,
        begin{align}
        left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
        & = prod_{i < j} left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right| \
        & = prod_{left(i, jright) in P} underbrace{left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right|}_{substack{ = f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)} \ left(text{by eqref{darij1.eq.3}}right)}} \
        & qquad left(text{since "$prodlimits_{i < j}$" is equivalent to "$prodlimits_{left(i, jright) in P}$"}right) \
        & = prod_{left(i, jright) in P} f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)} \
        & = prod_{I in G} f_{sigma_* left(Iright)}
        end{align}

        (here, we have substituted $I$ for $left{ i, j right}$ in the product, since the map $G to P, left(i, jright) mapsto left{ i, j right}$ is a bijection).
        Thus,
        begin{align}
        left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
        = prod_{I in G} f_{sigma_* left(Iright)} = prod_{I in G} f_I
        label{darij1.eq.4}
        tag{4}
        end{align}

        (here, we have substituted $I$ for $sigma_* left(Iright)$ in the product, since $sigma_*$ is a bijection).



        Note that the right hand side of eqref{darij1.eq.4} does not depend on $sigma$. Applying the same reasoning to the permutation $operatorname{id}$ instead of $sigma$, we thus obtain
        begin{align}
        left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{operatorname{id}left(iright)} - x_{operatorname{id}left(jright)}right)right|
        = prod_{I in G} f_I .
        end{align}

        In other words,
        begin{align}
        left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|
        = prod_{I in G} f_I .
        end{align}

        Comparing this equality with eqref{darij1.eq.4}, we obtain
        $left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
        = left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|$
        .
        Thus, eqref{darij1.eq.2} is proven.






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        Detailed proof: See Exercise 5.13 (a) in my Notes on the combinatorial fundamentals of algebra, 10th of January 2019. The claim I prove there is more general: I show that if $x_1, x_2, ldots, x_n$ are any $n$ complex numbers, and if $sigma$ is any permutation of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$, then
        begin{equation}
        prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)
        = left(-1right)^{sigma} cdot prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright) ,
        label{darij1.eq.1}
        tag{1}
        end{equation}

        where $left(-1right)^{sigma}$ denotes the sign of the permutation $sigma$.
        In order to obtain your equation from eqref{darij1.eq.1}, you have to set $x_i = i$ and take absolute values (so that the sign $left(-1right)^{sigma}$ disappears, since its absolute value is $1$).



        Let me sketch how to quickly prove the weaker equality
        begin{equation}
        left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
        = left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|
        label{darij1.eq.2}
        tag{2}
        end{equation}

        (which is still sufficient for your purposes). This is what @NickPeterson has already suggested, but my more rigorous notations shall hopefully close the cracks which let confusion slip through.



        First of all, the absolute value of a product equals the product of the absolute values of the factors; thus,
        begin{align}
        left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
        = prod_{i < j} left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right| .
        end{align}



        Next, let $P$ be the set of all pairs $left(i, jright)$ of integers $i, j in left{1,2,ldots,nright}$ satisfying $i < j$; also, let $G$ be the set of all $2$-element subsets of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$. Note that the product sign "$prodlimits_{i < j}$" is equivalent to "$prodlimits_{left(i, jright) in P}$".



        The two sets $P$ and $G$ have the same size (namely, $dbinom{n}{2} = nleft(n-1right) / 2$), and this is no coincidence: There is a bijection from $P$ to $G$. This bijection simply maps each pair $left(i, jright)$ to the two-element set $left{i, jright}$. The inverse of this bijection maps each two-element set to the pair consisting of its smaller element and its larger element (in this order).



        The permutation $sigma$ of $left{1,2,ldots,nright}$ gives rise to a permutation $sigma_*$ of the set $G$, which sends each two-element subset $I$ to $sigmaleft(Iright)$ (in other words, it sends each two-element subset $left{i,jright}$ to $left{sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright)right}$). Why is this a permutation of $G$? Well, again, its inverse is easy to find (it does the same thing, just with $sigma^{-1}$ instead of $sigma$). So $sigma_*$ is a permutation of $G$, i.e., a bijection from $G$ to $G$.



        Now the crucial insight: If $left(i, jright) in P$, then the absolute value $left| x_i - x_j right|$ depends only on the set $left{i, jright} in G$ (not on the pair $left(i, jright) in P$). In other words, if $I in G$ is any two-element subset, then we can define a real number $f_I$ by setting
        begin{align}
        f_I = left| x_i - x_j right|,
        qquad text{ where $I$ is written as $I = left{i, jright}$}.
        end{align}

        In order to formally prove this, you should recall that there are exactly two ways of writing $I$ as $I = left{i, jright}$, and check that these two ways lead to the same value of $left| x_i - x_j right|$ (easy: these two ways only differ in the order of elements, and we have $left| x_a - x_b right| = left| x_b - x_a right|$).



        Note that every $left(i, jright) in P$ satisfies $sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right) = left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}$ and thus
        begin{align}
        f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)}
        = f_{left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}}
        = left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right|
        label{darij1.eq.3}
        tag{3}
        end{align}

        (by the definition of $f_{left{ sigmaleft(iright), sigmaleft(jright) right}}$).



        Now,
        begin{align}
        left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
        & = prod_{i < j} left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right| \
        & = prod_{left(i, jright) in P} underbrace{left| x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)} right|}_{substack{ = f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)} \ left(text{by eqref{darij1.eq.3}}right)}} \
        & qquad left(text{since "$prodlimits_{i < j}$" is equivalent to "$prodlimits_{left(i, jright) in P}$"}right) \
        & = prod_{left(i, jright) in P} f_{sigma_* left( left{ i, j right} right)} \
        & = prod_{I in G} f_{sigma_* left(Iright)}
        end{align}

        (here, we have substituted $I$ for $left{ i, j right}$ in the product, since the map $G to P, left(i, jright) mapsto left{ i, j right}$ is a bijection).
        Thus,
        begin{align}
        left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
        = prod_{I in G} f_{sigma_* left(Iright)} = prod_{I in G} f_I
        label{darij1.eq.4}
        tag{4}
        end{align}

        (here, we have substituted $I$ for $sigma_* left(Iright)$ in the product, since $sigma_*$ is a bijection).



        Note that the right hand side of eqref{darij1.eq.4} does not depend on $sigma$. Applying the same reasoning to the permutation $operatorname{id}$ instead of $sigma$, we thus obtain
        begin{align}
        left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{operatorname{id}left(iright)} - x_{operatorname{id}left(jright)}right)right|
        = prod_{I in G} f_I .
        end{align}

        In other words,
        begin{align}
        left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|
        = prod_{I in G} f_I .
        end{align}

        Comparing this equality with eqref{darij1.eq.4}, we obtain
        $left|prod_{i < j} left(x_{sigmaleft(iright)} - x_{sigmaleft(jright)}right)right|
        = left|prod_{i < j} left(x_i - x_jright)right|$
        .
        Thus, eqref{darij1.eq.2} is proven.







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