Choosing an integer that is most likely to be the sum of die rolls












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Choose any positive integer $n$. Then roll an unbiased six-sided die as many times as needed until the sum of the results is either exactly equal to $n$ (you win) or greater than $n$ (you lose).



If you were to play this game; what number $n$ would you select in order to maximise the chance of winning and what is the probability of it?



(For example, choose $n=7$, then you would roll a die and if you get $6$ on the 1st throw and $1$ on the 2nd throw you would stop since you reached $n$).










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    Choose any positive integer $n$. Then roll an unbiased six-sided die as many times as needed until the sum of the results is either exactly equal to $n$ (you win) or greater than $n$ (you lose).



    If you were to play this game; what number $n$ would you select in order to maximise the chance of winning and what is the probability of it?



    (For example, choose $n=7$, then you would roll a die and if you get $6$ on the 1st throw and $1$ on the 2nd throw you would stop since you reached $n$).










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      Choose any positive integer $n$. Then roll an unbiased six-sided die as many times as needed until the sum of the results is either exactly equal to $n$ (you win) or greater than $n$ (you lose).



      If you were to play this game; what number $n$ would you select in order to maximise the chance of winning and what is the probability of it?



      (For example, choose $n=7$, then you would roll a die and if you get $6$ on the 1st throw and $1$ on the 2nd throw you would stop since you reached $n$).










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      Choose any positive integer $n$. Then roll an unbiased six-sided die as many times as needed until the sum of the results is either exactly equal to $n$ (you win) or greater than $n$ (you lose).



      If you were to play this game; what number $n$ would you select in order to maximise the chance of winning and what is the probability of it?



      (For example, choose $n=7$, then you would roll a die and if you get $6$ on the 1st throw and $1$ on the 2nd throw you would stop since you reached $n$).







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          Denote by $p_{k}$ the probability that a sum of $k$ is observed. Clearly
          $$p_{1}=frac{1}{6}$$
          For $p_{2}$, there is a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $2$ and a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $1$, followed by another one. This can be written as
          $$p_{2}=frac{1}{6}+frac{p_{1}}{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1})$$



          For $p_{3}$, there is a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $3$ and winning. The only other ways to win are to roll a $1$ or $2$, each with probability $frac{1}{6}$. If we roll a $1$, then our odds of winning are $p_{2}$ and if we roll a $2$, our odds of winning are $p_{1}$. Therefore
          $$p_{3}=frac{1}{6}+frac{p_{1}}{6}+frac{p_{2}}{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2})$$
          Similarly we have
          $$p_{4}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3})$$
          $$p_{5}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3}+p_{4})$$
          $$p_{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3}+p_{4}+p_{5})$$
          Now, for $k>6$ we cannot win in one roll so we have
          $$p_{k}=frac{1}{6}(p_{k-1}+p_{k-2}+p_{k-3}+p_{k-4}+p_{k-5}+p_{k-6})$$
          Observe that for any $k>6$,
          $$p_{k}=frac{1}{6}sum_{m=1}^{6}p_{k-m}<frac{1}{6}cdot 6max_{m=1,2,3,4,5,6}p_{k-m}=max_{m=1,2,3,4,5,6}p_{k-m}$$
          This proves that the winning choice is not bigger than $6$, and in fact must be the max of $p_{1},p_{2},...p_{6}$. Clearly this is $p_{6}$, so we should choose $n=6$ to maximize the odds of winning.






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            "Observe that for any $k$, $$sum_{m=1}^{6}p_{k-m}<1".$$ The "observation" is wrong for all $k>6$.
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            Actually $p_k gt frac14$ for $k gt 6$, contrary to your statement $p_k lt frac16$
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            You are both correct. I need to slightly reword my definition of $p_{n}$.
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          In general you can reach $n$ directly from any of the six preceding numbers each with probability $frac16$ so if $p_n$ is the probability that a sum of $n$ is hit then $$p_n=frac{1}{6}left(p_{n-1}+p_{n-2}+p_{n-3}+p_{n-4}+p_{n-5}+p_{n-6}right)$$ starting with $p_0=1$ and $p_{-1}=p_{-2}=p_{-3}=p_{-4}=p_{-5}=0$



          This is increasing from $n=1$ to $n=6$ since in this range $p_n=p_{n-1}+frac16p_{n-1}=frac76p_{n-1}=frac{7^{n-1}}{6^n}$. In particular $p_6=frac{7^5}{6^n}approx 0.3602323$



          $p_6$ must then (by induction) be the highest $p_n$ for positive $n$, since $p_n$ for $n gt 6$ is the average of the preceding six values, which will be strictly less than $p_6$. The average roll is $3.5$ so about $frac{1}{3.5} =frac27$ of the values are hit, meaning $p_n to frac27 approx 0.2857143$ as $n$ increases. Actual values for smaller $n$ are:



          p_0                 1 / 1               1
          p_1 1 / 6 0.1666667
          p_2 7 / 36 0.1944444
          p_3 49 / 216 0.2268519
          p_4 343 / 1296 0.2646605
          p_5 2401 / 7776 0.3087706
          p_6 16807 / 46656 0.3602323
          p_7 70993 / 279936 0.2536044
          p_8 450295 / 1679616 0.2680940
          p_9 2825473 / 10077696 0.2803689
          p_10 17492167 / 60466176 0.2892885
          p_11 106442161 / 362797056 0.2933931
          p_12 633074071 / 2176782336 0.2908302
          p_13 3647371105 / 13060694016 0.2792632
          p_14 22219348327 / 78364164096 0.2835397
          p_15 134526474769 / 470184984576 0.2861139
          p_16 809860055095 / 2821109907456 0.2870714
          p_17 4852905842113 / 16926659444736 0.2867019





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            Denote by $p_{k}$ the probability that a sum of $k$ is observed. Clearly
            $$p_{1}=frac{1}{6}$$
            For $p_{2}$, there is a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $2$ and a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $1$, followed by another one. This can be written as
            $$p_{2}=frac{1}{6}+frac{p_{1}}{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1})$$



            For $p_{3}$, there is a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $3$ and winning. The only other ways to win are to roll a $1$ or $2$, each with probability $frac{1}{6}$. If we roll a $1$, then our odds of winning are $p_{2}$ and if we roll a $2$, our odds of winning are $p_{1}$. Therefore
            $$p_{3}=frac{1}{6}+frac{p_{1}}{6}+frac{p_{2}}{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2})$$
            Similarly we have
            $$p_{4}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3})$$
            $$p_{5}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3}+p_{4})$$
            $$p_{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3}+p_{4}+p_{5})$$
            Now, for $k>6$ we cannot win in one roll so we have
            $$p_{k}=frac{1}{6}(p_{k-1}+p_{k-2}+p_{k-3}+p_{k-4}+p_{k-5}+p_{k-6})$$
            Observe that for any $k>6$,
            $$p_{k}=frac{1}{6}sum_{m=1}^{6}p_{k-m}<frac{1}{6}cdot 6max_{m=1,2,3,4,5,6}p_{k-m}=max_{m=1,2,3,4,5,6}p_{k-m}$$
            This proves that the winning choice is not bigger than $6$, and in fact must be the max of $p_{1},p_{2},...p_{6}$. Clearly this is $p_{6}$, so we should choose $n=6$ to maximize the odds of winning.






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              "Observe that for any $k$, $$sum_{m=1}^{6}p_{k-m}<1".$$ The "observation" is wrong for all $k>6$.
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              Actually $p_k gt frac14$ for $k gt 6$, contrary to your statement $p_k lt frac16$
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              You are both correct. I need to slightly reword my definition of $p_{n}$.
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            Denote by $p_{k}$ the probability that a sum of $k$ is observed. Clearly
            $$p_{1}=frac{1}{6}$$
            For $p_{2}$, there is a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $2$ and a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $1$, followed by another one. This can be written as
            $$p_{2}=frac{1}{6}+frac{p_{1}}{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1})$$



            For $p_{3}$, there is a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $3$ and winning. The only other ways to win are to roll a $1$ or $2$, each with probability $frac{1}{6}$. If we roll a $1$, then our odds of winning are $p_{2}$ and if we roll a $2$, our odds of winning are $p_{1}$. Therefore
            $$p_{3}=frac{1}{6}+frac{p_{1}}{6}+frac{p_{2}}{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2})$$
            Similarly we have
            $$p_{4}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3})$$
            $$p_{5}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3}+p_{4})$$
            $$p_{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3}+p_{4}+p_{5})$$
            Now, for $k>6$ we cannot win in one roll so we have
            $$p_{k}=frac{1}{6}(p_{k-1}+p_{k-2}+p_{k-3}+p_{k-4}+p_{k-5}+p_{k-6})$$
            Observe that for any $k>6$,
            $$p_{k}=frac{1}{6}sum_{m=1}^{6}p_{k-m}<frac{1}{6}cdot 6max_{m=1,2,3,4,5,6}p_{k-m}=max_{m=1,2,3,4,5,6}p_{k-m}$$
            This proves that the winning choice is not bigger than $6$, and in fact must be the max of $p_{1},p_{2},...p_{6}$. Clearly this is $p_{6}$, so we should choose $n=6$ to maximize the odds of winning.






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              "Observe that for any $k$, $$sum_{m=1}^{6}p_{k-m}<1".$$ The "observation" is wrong for all $k>6$.
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              – user
              Jan 11 at 23:13












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              Actually $p_k gt frac14$ for $k gt 6$, contrary to your statement $p_k lt frac16$
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              – Henry
              Jan 11 at 23:15










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              You are both correct. I need to slightly reword my definition of $p_{n}$.
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              – pwerth
              Jan 12 at 0:53














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            $begingroup$

            Denote by $p_{k}$ the probability that a sum of $k$ is observed. Clearly
            $$p_{1}=frac{1}{6}$$
            For $p_{2}$, there is a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $2$ and a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $1$, followed by another one. This can be written as
            $$p_{2}=frac{1}{6}+frac{p_{1}}{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1})$$



            For $p_{3}$, there is a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $3$ and winning. The only other ways to win are to roll a $1$ or $2$, each with probability $frac{1}{6}$. If we roll a $1$, then our odds of winning are $p_{2}$ and if we roll a $2$, our odds of winning are $p_{1}$. Therefore
            $$p_{3}=frac{1}{6}+frac{p_{1}}{6}+frac{p_{2}}{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2})$$
            Similarly we have
            $$p_{4}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3})$$
            $$p_{5}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3}+p_{4})$$
            $$p_{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3}+p_{4}+p_{5})$$
            Now, for $k>6$ we cannot win in one roll so we have
            $$p_{k}=frac{1}{6}(p_{k-1}+p_{k-2}+p_{k-3}+p_{k-4}+p_{k-5}+p_{k-6})$$
            Observe that for any $k>6$,
            $$p_{k}=frac{1}{6}sum_{m=1}^{6}p_{k-m}<frac{1}{6}cdot 6max_{m=1,2,3,4,5,6}p_{k-m}=max_{m=1,2,3,4,5,6}p_{k-m}$$
            This proves that the winning choice is not bigger than $6$, and in fact must be the max of $p_{1},p_{2},...p_{6}$. Clearly this is $p_{6}$, so we should choose $n=6$ to maximize the odds of winning.






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            Denote by $p_{k}$ the probability that a sum of $k$ is observed. Clearly
            $$p_{1}=frac{1}{6}$$
            For $p_{2}$, there is a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $2$ and a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $1$, followed by another one. This can be written as
            $$p_{2}=frac{1}{6}+frac{p_{1}}{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1})$$



            For $p_{3}$, there is a $frac{1}{6}$ chance of rolling a $3$ and winning. The only other ways to win are to roll a $1$ or $2$, each with probability $frac{1}{6}$. If we roll a $1$, then our odds of winning are $p_{2}$ and if we roll a $2$, our odds of winning are $p_{1}$. Therefore
            $$p_{3}=frac{1}{6}+frac{p_{1}}{6}+frac{p_{2}}{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2})$$
            Similarly we have
            $$p_{4}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3})$$
            $$p_{5}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3}+p_{4})$$
            $$p_{6}=frac{1}{6}(1+p_{1}+p_{2}+p_{3}+p_{4}+p_{5})$$
            Now, for $k>6$ we cannot win in one roll so we have
            $$p_{k}=frac{1}{6}(p_{k-1}+p_{k-2}+p_{k-3}+p_{k-4}+p_{k-5}+p_{k-6})$$
            Observe that for any $k>6$,
            $$p_{k}=frac{1}{6}sum_{m=1}^{6}p_{k-m}<frac{1}{6}cdot 6max_{m=1,2,3,4,5,6}p_{k-m}=max_{m=1,2,3,4,5,6}p_{k-m}$$
            This proves that the winning choice is not bigger than $6$, and in fact must be the max of $p_{1},p_{2},...p_{6}$. Clearly this is $p_{6}$, so we should choose $n=6$ to maximize the odds of winning.







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              "Observe that for any $k$, $$sum_{m=1}^{6}p_{k-m}<1".$$ The "observation" is wrong for all $k>6$.
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              Actually $p_k gt frac14$ for $k gt 6$, contrary to your statement $p_k lt frac16$
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              – Henry
              Jan 11 at 23:15










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              You are both correct. I need to slightly reword my definition of $p_{n}$.
              $endgroup$
              – pwerth
              Jan 12 at 0:53


















            • $begingroup$
              "Observe that for any $k$, $$sum_{m=1}^{6}p_{k-m}<1".$$ The "observation" is wrong for all $k>6$.
              $endgroup$
              – user
              Jan 11 at 23:13












            • $begingroup$
              Actually $p_k gt frac14$ for $k gt 6$, contrary to your statement $p_k lt frac16$
              $endgroup$
              – Henry
              Jan 11 at 23:15










            • $begingroup$
              You are both correct. I need to slightly reword my definition of $p_{n}$.
              $endgroup$
              – pwerth
              Jan 12 at 0:53
















            $begingroup$
            "Observe that for any $k$, $$sum_{m=1}^{6}p_{k-m}<1".$$ The "observation" is wrong for all $k>6$.
            $endgroup$
            – user
            Jan 11 at 23:13






            $begingroup$
            "Observe that for any $k$, $$sum_{m=1}^{6}p_{k-m}<1".$$ The "observation" is wrong for all $k>6$.
            $endgroup$
            – user
            Jan 11 at 23:13














            $begingroup$
            Actually $p_k gt frac14$ for $k gt 6$, contrary to your statement $p_k lt frac16$
            $endgroup$
            – Henry
            Jan 11 at 23:15




            $begingroup$
            Actually $p_k gt frac14$ for $k gt 6$, contrary to your statement $p_k lt frac16$
            $endgroup$
            – Henry
            Jan 11 at 23:15












            $begingroup$
            You are both correct. I need to slightly reword my definition of $p_{n}$.
            $endgroup$
            – pwerth
            Jan 12 at 0:53




            $begingroup$
            You are both correct. I need to slightly reword my definition of $p_{n}$.
            $endgroup$
            – pwerth
            Jan 12 at 0:53











            4












            $begingroup$

            In general you can reach $n$ directly from any of the six preceding numbers each with probability $frac16$ so if $p_n$ is the probability that a sum of $n$ is hit then $$p_n=frac{1}{6}left(p_{n-1}+p_{n-2}+p_{n-3}+p_{n-4}+p_{n-5}+p_{n-6}right)$$ starting with $p_0=1$ and $p_{-1}=p_{-2}=p_{-3}=p_{-4}=p_{-5}=0$



            This is increasing from $n=1$ to $n=6$ since in this range $p_n=p_{n-1}+frac16p_{n-1}=frac76p_{n-1}=frac{7^{n-1}}{6^n}$. In particular $p_6=frac{7^5}{6^n}approx 0.3602323$



            $p_6$ must then (by induction) be the highest $p_n$ for positive $n$, since $p_n$ for $n gt 6$ is the average of the preceding six values, which will be strictly less than $p_6$. The average roll is $3.5$ so about $frac{1}{3.5} =frac27$ of the values are hit, meaning $p_n to frac27 approx 0.2857143$ as $n$ increases. Actual values for smaller $n$ are:



            p_0                 1 / 1               1
            p_1 1 / 6 0.1666667
            p_2 7 / 36 0.1944444
            p_3 49 / 216 0.2268519
            p_4 343 / 1296 0.2646605
            p_5 2401 / 7776 0.3087706
            p_6 16807 / 46656 0.3602323
            p_7 70993 / 279936 0.2536044
            p_8 450295 / 1679616 0.2680940
            p_9 2825473 / 10077696 0.2803689
            p_10 17492167 / 60466176 0.2892885
            p_11 106442161 / 362797056 0.2933931
            p_12 633074071 / 2176782336 0.2908302
            p_13 3647371105 / 13060694016 0.2792632
            p_14 22219348327 / 78364164096 0.2835397
            p_15 134526474769 / 470184984576 0.2861139
            p_16 809860055095 / 2821109907456 0.2870714
            p_17 4852905842113 / 16926659444736 0.2867019





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              $begingroup$

              In general you can reach $n$ directly from any of the six preceding numbers each with probability $frac16$ so if $p_n$ is the probability that a sum of $n$ is hit then $$p_n=frac{1}{6}left(p_{n-1}+p_{n-2}+p_{n-3}+p_{n-4}+p_{n-5}+p_{n-6}right)$$ starting with $p_0=1$ and $p_{-1}=p_{-2}=p_{-3}=p_{-4}=p_{-5}=0$



              This is increasing from $n=1$ to $n=6$ since in this range $p_n=p_{n-1}+frac16p_{n-1}=frac76p_{n-1}=frac{7^{n-1}}{6^n}$. In particular $p_6=frac{7^5}{6^n}approx 0.3602323$



              $p_6$ must then (by induction) be the highest $p_n$ for positive $n$, since $p_n$ for $n gt 6$ is the average of the preceding six values, which will be strictly less than $p_6$. The average roll is $3.5$ so about $frac{1}{3.5} =frac27$ of the values are hit, meaning $p_n to frac27 approx 0.2857143$ as $n$ increases. Actual values for smaller $n$ are:



              p_0                 1 / 1               1
              p_1 1 / 6 0.1666667
              p_2 7 / 36 0.1944444
              p_3 49 / 216 0.2268519
              p_4 343 / 1296 0.2646605
              p_5 2401 / 7776 0.3087706
              p_6 16807 / 46656 0.3602323
              p_7 70993 / 279936 0.2536044
              p_8 450295 / 1679616 0.2680940
              p_9 2825473 / 10077696 0.2803689
              p_10 17492167 / 60466176 0.2892885
              p_11 106442161 / 362797056 0.2933931
              p_12 633074071 / 2176782336 0.2908302
              p_13 3647371105 / 13060694016 0.2792632
              p_14 22219348327 / 78364164096 0.2835397
              p_15 134526474769 / 470184984576 0.2861139
              p_16 809860055095 / 2821109907456 0.2870714
              p_17 4852905842113 / 16926659444736 0.2867019





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                In general you can reach $n$ directly from any of the six preceding numbers each with probability $frac16$ so if $p_n$ is the probability that a sum of $n$ is hit then $$p_n=frac{1}{6}left(p_{n-1}+p_{n-2}+p_{n-3}+p_{n-4}+p_{n-5}+p_{n-6}right)$$ starting with $p_0=1$ and $p_{-1}=p_{-2}=p_{-3}=p_{-4}=p_{-5}=0$



                This is increasing from $n=1$ to $n=6$ since in this range $p_n=p_{n-1}+frac16p_{n-1}=frac76p_{n-1}=frac{7^{n-1}}{6^n}$. In particular $p_6=frac{7^5}{6^n}approx 0.3602323$



                $p_6$ must then (by induction) be the highest $p_n$ for positive $n$, since $p_n$ for $n gt 6$ is the average of the preceding six values, which will be strictly less than $p_6$. The average roll is $3.5$ so about $frac{1}{3.5} =frac27$ of the values are hit, meaning $p_n to frac27 approx 0.2857143$ as $n$ increases. Actual values for smaller $n$ are:



                p_0                 1 / 1               1
                p_1 1 / 6 0.1666667
                p_2 7 / 36 0.1944444
                p_3 49 / 216 0.2268519
                p_4 343 / 1296 0.2646605
                p_5 2401 / 7776 0.3087706
                p_6 16807 / 46656 0.3602323
                p_7 70993 / 279936 0.2536044
                p_8 450295 / 1679616 0.2680940
                p_9 2825473 / 10077696 0.2803689
                p_10 17492167 / 60466176 0.2892885
                p_11 106442161 / 362797056 0.2933931
                p_12 633074071 / 2176782336 0.2908302
                p_13 3647371105 / 13060694016 0.2792632
                p_14 22219348327 / 78364164096 0.2835397
                p_15 134526474769 / 470184984576 0.2861139
                p_16 809860055095 / 2821109907456 0.2870714
                p_17 4852905842113 / 16926659444736 0.2867019





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                In general you can reach $n$ directly from any of the six preceding numbers each with probability $frac16$ so if $p_n$ is the probability that a sum of $n$ is hit then $$p_n=frac{1}{6}left(p_{n-1}+p_{n-2}+p_{n-3}+p_{n-4}+p_{n-5}+p_{n-6}right)$$ starting with $p_0=1$ and $p_{-1}=p_{-2}=p_{-3}=p_{-4}=p_{-5}=0$



                This is increasing from $n=1$ to $n=6$ since in this range $p_n=p_{n-1}+frac16p_{n-1}=frac76p_{n-1}=frac{7^{n-1}}{6^n}$. In particular $p_6=frac{7^5}{6^n}approx 0.3602323$



                $p_6$ must then (by induction) be the highest $p_n$ for positive $n$, since $p_n$ for $n gt 6$ is the average of the preceding six values, which will be strictly less than $p_6$. The average roll is $3.5$ so about $frac{1}{3.5} =frac27$ of the values are hit, meaning $p_n to frac27 approx 0.2857143$ as $n$ increases. Actual values for smaller $n$ are:



                p_0                 1 / 1               1
                p_1 1 / 6 0.1666667
                p_2 7 / 36 0.1944444
                p_3 49 / 216 0.2268519
                p_4 343 / 1296 0.2646605
                p_5 2401 / 7776 0.3087706
                p_6 16807 / 46656 0.3602323
                p_7 70993 / 279936 0.2536044
                p_8 450295 / 1679616 0.2680940
                p_9 2825473 / 10077696 0.2803689
                p_10 17492167 / 60466176 0.2892885
                p_11 106442161 / 362797056 0.2933931
                p_12 633074071 / 2176782336 0.2908302
                p_13 3647371105 / 13060694016 0.2792632
                p_14 22219348327 / 78364164096 0.2835397
                p_15 134526474769 / 470184984576 0.2861139
                p_16 809860055095 / 2821109907456 0.2870714
                p_17 4852905842113 / 16926659444736 0.2867019






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