If $m(E)=m_*(E_1)+m_*(E_2)$ , then $E_1$ and $E_2$ are measurable












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Suppose $E$ is measurable with $m(E) lt infty$ , and $$E=E_1 cup E_2 , E_1 cap E_2 text{is empty}$$ Show that if $m(E)=m_*(E_1)+m_*(E_2)$ , then $E_1$ and $E_2$ are measurable.




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Since $E_2=E-E_1$ , it suffice to prove $E_1$ is measurable . And for $E_1$ , since $m_*(E_1)le m(E) lt infty$ , for any $epsilon$ , we can find an open set $O$ such taht $E_1 subset O$ and $m(O)-m_*(E_1) lt epsilon$ , but how to show that $m_*(O-E_1)lt epsilon$ ?










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    Suppose $E$ is measurable with $m(E) lt infty$ , and $$E=E_1 cup E_2 , E_1 cap E_2 text{is empty}$$ Show that if $m(E)=m_*(E_1)+m_*(E_2)$ , then $E_1$ and $E_2$ are measurable.




    My attempt:

    Since $E_2=E-E_1$ , it suffice to prove $E_1$ is measurable . And for $E_1$ , since $m_*(E_1)le m(E) lt infty$ , for any $epsilon$ , we can find an open set $O$ such taht $E_1 subset O$ and $m(O)-m_*(E_1) lt epsilon$ , but how to show that $m_*(O-E_1)lt epsilon$ ?










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      Suppose $E$ is measurable with $m(E) lt infty$ , and $$E=E_1 cup E_2 , E_1 cap E_2 text{is empty}$$ Show that if $m(E)=m_*(E_1)+m_*(E_2)$ , then $E_1$ and $E_2$ are measurable.




      My attempt:

      Since $E_2=E-E_1$ , it suffice to prove $E_1$ is measurable . And for $E_1$ , since $m_*(E_1)le m(E) lt infty$ , for any $epsilon$ , we can find an open set $O$ such taht $E_1 subset O$ and $m(O)-m_*(E_1) lt epsilon$ , but how to show that $m_*(O-E_1)lt epsilon$ ?










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      Suppose $E$ is measurable with $m(E) lt infty$ , and $$E=E_1 cup E_2 , E_1 cap E_2 text{is empty}$$ Show that if $m(E)=m_*(E_1)+m_*(E_2)$ , then $E_1$ and $E_2$ are measurable.




      My attempt:

      Since $E_2=E-E_1$ , it suffice to prove $E_1$ is measurable . And for $E_1$ , since $m_*(E_1)le m(E) lt infty$ , for any $epsilon$ , we can find an open set $O$ such taht $E_1 subset O$ and $m(O)-m_*(E_1) lt epsilon$ , but how to show that $m_*(O-E_1)lt epsilon$ ?







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          Let $epsilon>0$ be arbitrarily given and $U_i$, $i=1,2$ be open sets such that $E_isubset U_i$ and $$
          m_*E_ile mU_i<m_*E_i +epsilon
          $$
          for $i=1,2$. Since $
          Esubset U_1cup U_2,
          $
          we have $$
          mE leq m(U_1cup U_2)=mU_1+mU_2-m(U_1cap U_2).
          $$
          This gives $m(U_1cap U_2)le mU_1+mU_2-mE<2epsilon$ by the assumption that $mE=m_*E_1+m_* E_2$. Now, observe that
          $$
          U_isetminus E_i subset left(U_1cap U_2right)cup left(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus Eright).
          $$
          This implies
          $$begin{eqnarray}
          m_*(U_isetminus E_i)&le& m_*left( left(U_1cap U_2right)cup left(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus Eright)right)\
          &le& m(U_1cap U_2)+m(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus E)\
          &le& 2epsilon +m(U_1cup U_2)-mE\
          &le& 2epsilon + mU_1+mU_2-mE<4epsilon.
          end{eqnarray}$$
          Since $epsilon>0$ was arbitrary, it says that $E_i$ are measurable for $i=1,2$.






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            Let $epsilon>0$ be arbitrarily given and $U_i$, $i=1,2$ be open sets such that $E_isubset U_i$ and $$
            m_*E_ile mU_i<m_*E_i +epsilon
            $$
            for $i=1,2$. Since $
            Esubset U_1cup U_2,
            $
            we have $$
            mE leq m(U_1cup U_2)=mU_1+mU_2-m(U_1cap U_2).
            $$
            This gives $m(U_1cap U_2)le mU_1+mU_2-mE<2epsilon$ by the assumption that $mE=m_*E_1+m_* E_2$. Now, observe that
            $$
            U_isetminus E_i subset left(U_1cap U_2right)cup left(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus Eright).
            $$
            This implies
            $$begin{eqnarray}
            m_*(U_isetminus E_i)&le& m_*left( left(U_1cap U_2right)cup left(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus Eright)right)\
            &le& m(U_1cap U_2)+m(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus E)\
            &le& 2epsilon +m(U_1cup U_2)-mE\
            &le& 2epsilon + mU_1+mU_2-mE<4epsilon.
            end{eqnarray}$$
            Since $epsilon>0$ was arbitrary, it says that $E_i$ are measurable for $i=1,2$.






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              Let $epsilon>0$ be arbitrarily given and $U_i$, $i=1,2$ be open sets such that $E_isubset U_i$ and $$
              m_*E_ile mU_i<m_*E_i +epsilon
              $$
              for $i=1,2$. Since $
              Esubset U_1cup U_2,
              $
              we have $$
              mE leq m(U_1cup U_2)=mU_1+mU_2-m(U_1cap U_2).
              $$
              This gives $m(U_1cap U_2)le mU_1+mU_2-mE<2epsilon$ by the assumption that $mE=m_*E_1+m_* E_2$. Now, observe that
              $$
              U_isetminus E_i subset left(U_1cap U_2right)cup left(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus Eright).
              $$
              This implies
              $$begin{eqnarray}
              m_*(U_isetminus E_i)&le& m_*left( left(U_1cap U_2right)cup left(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus Eright)right)\
              &le& m(U_1cap U_2)+m(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus E)\
              &le& 2epsilon +m(U_1cup U_2)-mE\
              &le& 2epsilon + mU_1+mU_2-mE<4epsilon.
              end{eqnarray}$$
              Since $epsilon>0$ was arbitrary, it says that $E_i$ are measurable for $i=1,2$.






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                Let $epsilon>0$ be arbitrarily given and $U_i$, $i=1,2$ be open sets such that $E_isubset U_i$ and $$
                m_*E_ile mU_i<m_*E_i +epsilon
                $$
                for $i=1,2$. Since $
                Esubset U_1cup U_2,
                $
                we have $$
                mE leq m(U_1cup U_2)=mU_1+mU_2-m(U_1cap U_2).
                $$
                This gives $m(U_1cap U_2)le mU_1+mU_2-mE<2epsilon$ by the assumption that $mE=m_*E_1+m_* E_2$. Now, observe that
                $$
                U_isetminus E_i subset left(U_1cap U_2right)cup left(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus Eright).
                $$
                This implies
                $$begin{eqnarray}
                m_*(U_isetminus E_i)&le& m_*left( left(U_1cap U_2right)cup left(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus Eright)right)\
                &le& m(U_1cap U_2)+m(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus E)\
                &le& 2epsilon +m(U_1cup U_2)-mE\
                &le& 2epsilon + mU_1+mU_2-mE<4epsilon.
                end{eqnarray}$$
                Since $epsilon>0$ was arbitrary, it says that $E_i$ are measurable for $i=1,2$.






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                Let $epsilon>0$ be arbitrarily given and $U_i$, $i=1,2$ be open sets such that $E_isubset U_i$ and $$
                m_*E_ile mU_i<m_*E_i +epsilon
                $$
                for $i=1,2$. Since $
                Esubset U_1cup U_2,
                $
                we have $$
                mE leq m(U_1cup U_2)=mU_1+mU_2-m(U_1cap U_2).
                $$
                This gives $m(U_1cap U_2)le mU_1+mU_2-mE<2epsilon$ by the assumption that $mE=m_*E_1+m_* E_2$. Now, observe that
                $$
                U_isetminus E_i subset left(U_1cap U_2right)cup left(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus Eright).
                $$
                This implies
                $$begin{eqnarray}
                m_*(U_isetminus E_i)&le& m_*left( left(U_1cap U_2right)cup left(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus Eright)right)\
                &le& m(U_1cap U_2)+m(left(U_1cup U_2right)setminus E)\
                &le& 2epsilon +m(U_1cup U_2)-mE\
                &le& 2epsilon + mU_1+mU_2-mE<4epsilon.
                end{eqnarray}$$
                Since $epsilon>0$ was arbitrary, it says that $E_i$ are measurable for $i=1,2$.







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