Epsilon-delta proof that $lim limits_{x to a} sqrt{|x|}$ exists
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I'm having some trouble with the logic of delta-epsilon arguments. Consider the following:
Prove that $lim limits_{x to a} sqrt{|x|}$ exists
$$begin{equation}
begin{split}
|x - a| < delta &Rightarrow left | sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|} right | \[10pt]
&Rightarrow left | frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|x|} + sqrt{|a|}} right |
end{split}
end{equation} $$
Suppose $delta = epsilon sqrt{|a|} $
$$begin{equation}
begin{split}
&|x - a| < epsilon sqrt{|a|} \[10pt]
&Rightarrow |x| - |a| < epsilon sqrt{a} \[10pt]
&Rightarrow frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon \[10pt]
&Rightarrow frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{x} + sqrt{|a|}} < frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon \[10pt]
&Rightarrow frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{x} + sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon
end{split}
end{equation}$$
The problem is
$$ frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{x} + sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon not Rightarrow left | frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|x|} + sqrt{|a|}} right | < epsilon $$
Edit: I have a separate proof for when a = 0
real-analysis limits epsilon-delta
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I'm having some trouble with the logic of delta-epsilon arguments. Consider the following:
Prove that $lim limits_{x to a} sqrt{|x|}$ exists
$$begin{equation}
begin{split}
|x - a| < delta &Rightarrow left | sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|} right | \[10pt]
&Rightarrow left | frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|x|} + sqrt{|a|}} right |
end{split}
end{equation} $$
Suppose $delta = epsilon sqrt{|a|} $
$$begin{equation}
begin{split}
&|x - a| < epsilon sqrt{|a|} \[10pt]
&Rightarrow |x| - |a| < epsilon sqrt{a} \[10pt]
&Rightarrow frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon \[10pt]
&Rightarrow frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{x} + sqrt{|a|}} < frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon \[10pt]
&Rightarrow frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{x} + sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon
end{split}
end{equation}$$
The problem is
$$ frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{x} + sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon not Rightarrow left | frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|x|} + sqrt{|a|}} right | < epsilon $$
Edit: I have a separate proof for when a = 0
real-analysis limits epsilon-delta
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Do you already know that composition of continuous functions is continuous?
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– user251257
Jan 8 at 15:56
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Yes, I assumed a is not equal to zero
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– Michael_111111
Jan 8 at 16:01
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@user251257 I didn't consider that. Thanks. But I still would like to know if it is possible to answer the question without resorting to that theorem.
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– Michael_111111
Jan 8 at 16:04
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Your question is confusing. First you mention the rationale behind this sort of proof, but then you seem to be asking about how to prove this specifically, (and it's not just an example). What exactly do you want?
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– Git Gud
Jan 8 at 16:08
2
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As the previous comment implies, all you missed was the opportunity to take the absolute value of $|x| - |a|$ when you could. You wrote $|x| - |a|$ instead of $leftvert|x| - |a|rightvert,$ which gave you a statement that was true but not as strong as you needed.
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– David K
Jan 8 at 16:51
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show 3 more comments
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I'm having some trouble with the logic of delta-epsilon arguments. Consider the following:
Prove that $lim limits_{x to a} sqrt{|x|}$ exists
$$begin{equation}
begin{split}
|x - a| < delta &Rightarrow left | sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|} right | \[10pt]
&Rightarrow left | frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|x|} + sqrt{|a|}} right |
end{split}
end{equation} $$
Suppose $delta = epsilon sqrt{|a|} $
$$begin{equation}
begin{split}
&|x - a| < epsilon sqrt{|a|} \[10pt]
&Rightarrow |x| - |a| < epsilon sqrt{a} \[10pt]
&Rightarrow frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon \[10pt]
&Rightarrow frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{x} + sqrt{|a|}} < frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon \[10pt]
&Rightarrow frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{x} + sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon
end{split}
end{equation}$$
The problem is
$$ frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{x} + sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon not Rightarrow left | frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|x|} + sqrt{|a|}} right | < epsilon $$
Edit: I have a separate proof for when a = 0
real-analysis limits epsilon-delta
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I'm having some trouble with the logic of delta-epsilon arguments. Consider the following:
Prove that $lim limits_{x to a} sqrt{|x|}$ exists
$$begin{equation}
begin{split}
|x - a| < delta &Rightarrow left | sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|} right | \[10pt]
&Rightarrow left | frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|x|} + sqrt{|a|}} right |
end{split}
end{equation} $$
Suppose $delta = epsilon sqrt{|a|} $
$$begin{equation}
begin{split}
&|x - a| < epsilon sqrt{|a|} \[10pt]
&Rightarrow |x| - |a| < epsilon sqrt{a} \[10pt]
&Rightarrow frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon \[10pt]
&Rightarrow frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{x} + sqrt{|a|}} < frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon \[10pt]
&Rightarrow frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{x} + sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon
end{split}
end{equation}$$
The problem is
$$ frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{x} + sqrt{|a|}} < epsilon not Rightarrow left | frac{|x| - |a|}{sqrt{|x|} + sqrt{|a|}} right | < epsilon $$
Edit: I have a separate proof for when a = 0
real-analysis limits epsilon-delta
real-analysis limits epsilon-delta
edited Jan 8 at 16:13
Git Gud
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Do you already know that composition of continuous functions is continuous?
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– user251257
Jan 8 at 15:56
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Yes, I assumed a is not equal to zero
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– Michael_111111
Jan 8 at 16:01
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@user251257 I didn't consider that. Thanks. But I still would like to know if it is possible to answer the question without resorting to that theorem.
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– Michael_111111
Jan 8 at 16:04
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Your question is confusing. First you mention the rationale behind this sort of proof, but then you seem to be asking about how to prove this specifically, (and it's not just an example). What exactly do you want?
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– Git Gud
Jan 8 at 16:08
2
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As the previous comment implies, all you missed was the opportunity to take the absolute value of $|x| - |a|$ when you could. You wrote $|x| - |a|$ instead of $leftvert|x| - |a|rightvert,$ which gave you a statement that was true but not as strong as you needed.
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– David K
Jan 8 at 16:51
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show 3 more comments
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Do you already know that composition of continuous functions is continuous?
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– user251257
Jan 8 at 15:56
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Yes, I assumed a is not equal to zero
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– Michael_111111
Jan 8 at 16:01
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@user251257 I didn't consider that. Thanks. But I still would like to know if it is possible to answer the question without resorting to that theorem.
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– Michael_111111
Jan 8 at 16:04
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Your question is confusing. First you mention the rationale behind this sort of proof, but then you seem to be asking about how to prove this specifically, (and it's not just an example). What exactly do you want?
$endgroup$
– Git Gud
Jan 8 at 16:08
2
$begingroup$
As the previous comment implies, all you missed was the opportunity to take the absolute value of $|x| - |a|$ when you could. You wrote $|x| - |a|$ instead of $leftvert|x| - |a|rightvert,$ which gave you a statement that was true but not as strong as you needed.
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– David K
Jan 8 at 16:51
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Do you already know that composition of continuous functions is continuous?
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– user251257
Jan 8 at 15:56
$begingroup$
Do you already know that composition of continuous functions is continuous?
$endgroup$
– user251257
Jan 8 at 15:56
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Yes, I assumed a is not equal to zero
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– Michael_111111
Jan 8 at 16:01
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Yes, I assumed a is not equal to zero
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– Michael_111111
Jan 8 at 16:01
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@user251257 I didn't consider that. Thanks. But I still would like to know if it is possible to answer the question without resorting to that theorem.
$endgroup$
– Michael_111111
Jan 8 at 16:04
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@user251257 I didn't consider that. Thanks. But I still would like to know if it is possible to answer the question without resorting to that theorem.
$endgroup$
– Michael_111111
Jan 8 at 16:04
$begingroup$
Your question is confusing. First you mention the rationale behind this sort of proof, but then you seem to be asking about how to prove this specifically, (and it's not just an example). What exactly do you want?
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– Git Gud
Jan 8 at 16:08
$begingroup$
Your question is confusing. First you mention the rationale behind this sort of proof, but then you seem to be asking about how to prove this specifically, (and it's not just an example). What exactly do you want?
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– Git Gud
Jan 8 at 16:08
2
2
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As the previous comment implies, all you missed was the opportunity to take the absolute value of $|x| - |a|$ when you could. You wrote $|x| - |a|$ instead of $leftvert|x| - |a|rightvert,$ which gave you a statement that was true but not as strong as you needed.
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– David K
Jan 8 at 16:51
$begingroup$
As the previous comment implies, all you missed was the opportunity to take the absolute value of $|x| - |a|$ when you could. You wrote $|x| - |a|$ instead of $leftvert|x| - |a|rightvert,$ which gave you a statement that was true but not as strong as you needed.
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– David K
Jan 8 at 16:51
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In this particular case, you just need to do the lower inequality as well. However, I'm going to give an overview of how to answer these sorts of questions in a way that makes sense, always works, and doesn't give people a headache when they're trying to mark it. I'll write out the proof as I'd write it in
Then
quotes
and write my commentary outside of them.
So, first, we notice that it's pretty obvious that the limit is going to be $sqrt{|a|}$. Now, we'll write down some boilerplate that's identical for any such proof:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := $
We don't know what $delta$ needs to be, yet, but we'll figure it out as we go, and just leave a space. Now, on with the boilerplate:
Then for any $x in mathbb{R}$ such that $|x - a| < delta$, we have
And now we'll start with the actual work, and try to fiddle with $|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}|$ to get something that looks like $|x - a|$, so we can get a $delta$ out, then use whatever conditions we're going to put on $delta$ to turn that into an $varepsilon$. First off, we'll try to use a difference of two squares to neaten things up a bit.
begin{align*}left|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}right| &= frac{left|sqrt{|x|}-sqrt{|a|}right|left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&=frac{||x|-|a||}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}end{align*}
Now, that thing on the top looks almost like $|x-a|$, but not quite. The reverse triangle inequality can fix that, though, and then we can get our $delta$ in there:
begin{align*}&leqfrac{|x-a|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}mbox{ by the reverse triangle inequality}\&<frac{delta}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}end{align*}
Now, we're nearly done: just need to get rid of the $x$ at the bottom, but that's easy: $sqrt{|x|} geq 0$, so $left|sqrt{|x|} + sqrt{|a|}right| geq sqrt{|a|}$. Since it's in the denominator, we'll flip that around:
$$< frac{delta}{sqrt{|a|}}$$
So, if we just chose $delta = sqrt{|a|}varepsilon$, we'll be done:
$$ = varepsilon.$$
Now, we'll go back and fill in our definition of $delta$ at the top:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := sqrt{|a|}varepsilon > 0. $
and add some more boilerplate at the end:
Thus, $lim_{xto a}sqrt{|x|} = sqrt{|a|}$.
Putting that all together, the proof ends up as:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := sqrt{|a|}varepsilon > 0.$
Then for any $x in mathbb{R}$ such that $|x - a| < delta$, we have
begin{align*}left|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}right| &= frac{left|sqrt{|x|}-sqrt{|a|}right|left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&=frac{||x|-|a||}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&leqfrac{|x-a|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}mbox{ by the reverse triangle inequality}\&<frac{delta}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&leqfrac{delta}{sqrt{|a|}}\&=varepsilon.end{align*}
Thus, $lim_{xto a}sqrt{|x|} = sqrt{|a|}$.
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The reverse triangle equality gives $leq$ rather than $=,$ because you haven't ensured that $x$ and $a$ have the same sign. You could produce a more complicated formula for $delta$ to fix that, or you could just write $leq,$ which works fine.
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– David K
Jan 8 at 16:47
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In this particular case, you just need to do the lower inequality as well. However, I'm going to give an overview of how to answer these sorts of questions in a way that makes sense, always works, and doesn't give people a headache when they're trying to mark it. I'll write out the proof as I'd write it in
Then
quotes
and write my commentary outside of them.
So, first, we notice that it's pretty obvious that the limit is going to be $sqrt{|a|}$. Now, we'll write down some boilerplate that's identical for any such proof:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := $
We don't know what $delta$ needs to be, yet, but we'll figure it out as we go, and just leave a space. Now, on with the boilerplate:
Then for any $x in mathbb{R}$ such that $|x - a| < delta$, we have
And now we'll start with the actual work, and try to fiddle with $|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}|$ to get something that looks like $|x - a|$, so we can get a $delta$ out, then use whatever conditions we're going to put on $delta$ to turn that into an $varepsilon$. First off, we'll try to use a difference of two squares to neaten things up a bit.
begin{align*}left|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}right| &= frac{left|sqrt{|x|}-sqrt{|a|}right|left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&=frac{||x|-|a||}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}end{align*}
Now, that thing on the top looks almost like $|x-a|$, but not quite. The reverse triangle inequality can fix that, though, and then we can get our $delta$ in there:
begin{align*}&leqfrac{|x-a|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}mbox{ by the reverse triangle inequality}\&<frac{delta}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}end{align*}
Now, we're nearly done: just need to get rid of the $x$ at the bottom, but that's easy: $sqrt{|x|} geq 0$, so $left|sqrt{|x|} + sqrt{|a|}right| geq sqrt{|a|}$. Since it's in the denominator, we'll flip that around:
$$< frac{delta}{sqrt{|a|}}$$
So, if we just chose $delta = sqrt{|a|}varepsilon$, we'll be done:
$$ = varepsilon.$$
Now, we'll go back and fill in our definition of $delta$ at the top:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := sqrt{|a|}varepsilon > 0. $
and add some more boilerplate at the end:
Thus, $lim_{xto a}sqrt{|x|} = sqrt{|a|}$.
Putting that all together, the proof ends up as:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := sqrt{|a|}varepsilon > 0.$
Then for any $x in mathbb{R}$ such that $|x - a| < delta$, we have
begin{align*}left|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}right| &= frac{left|sqrt{|x|}-sqrt{|a|}right|left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&=frac{||x|-|a||}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&leqfrac{|x-a|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}mbox{ by the reverse triangle inequality}\&<frac{delta}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&leqfrac{delta}{sqrt{|a|}}\&=varepsilon.end{align*}
Thus, $lim_{xto a}sqrt{|x|} = sqrt{|a|}$.
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The reverse triangle equality gives $leq$ rather than $=,$ because you haven't ensured that $x$ and $a$ have the same sign. You could produce a more complicated formula for $delta$ to fix that, or you could just write $leq,$ which works fine.
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– David K
Jan 8 at 16:47
add a comment |
$begingroup$
In this particular case, you just need to do the lower inequality as well. However, I'm going to give an overview of how to answer these sorts of questions in a way that makes sense, always works, and doesn't give people a headache when they're trying to mark it. I'll write out the proof as I'd write it in
Then
quotes
and write my commentary outside of them.
So, first, we notice that it's pretty obvious that the limit is going to be $sqrt{|a|}$. Now, we'll write down some boilerplate that's identical for any such proof:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := $
We don't know what $delta$ needs to be, yet, but we'll figure it out as we go, and just leave a space. Now, on with the boilerplate:
Then for any $x in mathbb{R}$ such that $|x - a| < delta$, we have
And now we'll start with the actual work, and try to fiddle with $|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}|$ to get something that looks like $|x - a|$, so we can get a $delta$ out, then use whatever conditions we're going to put on $delta$ to turn that into an $varepsilon$. First off, we'll try to use a difference of two squares to neaten things up a bit.
begin{align*}left|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}right| &= frac{left|sqrt{|x|}-sqrt{|a|}right|left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&=frac{||x|-|a||}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}end{align*}
Now, that thing on the top looks almost like $|x-a|$, but not quite. The reverse triangle inequality can fix that, though, and then we can get our $delta$ in there:
begin{align*}&leqfrac{|x-a|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}mbox{ by the reverse triangle inequality}\&<frac{delta}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}end{align*}
Now, we're nearly done: just need to get rid of the $x$ at the bottom, but that's easy: $sqrt{|x|} geq 0$, so $left|sqrt{|x|} + sqrt{|a|}right| geq sqrt{|a|}$. Since it's in the denominator, we'll flip that around:
$$< frac{delta}{sqrt{|a|}}$$
So, if we just chose $delta = sqrt{|a|}varepsilon$, we'll be done:
$$ = varepsilon.$$
Now, we'll go back and fill in our definition of $delta$ at the top:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := sqrt{|a|}varepsilon > 0. $
and add some more boilerplate at the end:
Thus, $lim_{xto a}sqrt{|x|} = sqrt{|a|}$.
Putting that all together, the proof ends up as:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := sqrt{|a|}varepsilon > 0.$
Then for any $x in mathbb{R}$ such that $|x - a| < delta$, we have
begin{align*}left|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}right| &= frac{left|sqrt{|x|}-sqrt{|a|}right|left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&=frac{||x|-|a||}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&leqfrac{|x-a|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}mbox{ by the reverse triangle inequality}\&<frac{delta}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&leqfrac{delta}{sqrt{|a|}}\&=varepsilon.end{align*}
Thus, $lim_{xto a}sqrt{|x|} = sqrt{|a|}$.
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$begingroup$
The reverse triangle equality gives $leq$ rather than $=,$ because you haven't ensured that $x$ and $a$ have the same sign. You could produce a more complicated formula for $delta$ to fix that, or you could just write $leq,$ which works fine.
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– David K
Jan 8 at 16:47
add a comment |
$begingroup$
In this particular case, you just need to do the lower inequality as well. However, I'm going to give an overview of how to answer these sorts of questions in a way that makes sense, always works, and doesn't give people a headache when they're trying to mark it. I'll write out the proof as I'd write it in
Then
quotes
and write my commentary outside of them.
So, first, we notice that it's pretty obvious that the limit is going to be $sqrt{|a|}$. Now, we'll write down some boilerplate that's identical for any such proof:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := $
We don't know what $delta$ needs to be, yet, but we'll figure it out as we go, and just leave a space. Now, on with the boilerplate:
Then for any $x in mathbb{R}$ such that $|x - a| < delta$, we have
And now we'll start with the actual work, and try to fiddle with $|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}|$ to get something that looks like $|x - a|$, so we can get a $delta$ out, then use whatever conditions we're going to put on $delta$ to turn that into an $varepsilon$. First off, we'll try to use a difference of two squares to neaten things up a bit.
begin{align*}left|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}right| &= frac{left|sqrt{|x|}-sqrt{|a|}right|left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&=frac{||x|-|a||}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}end{align*}
Now, that thing on the top looks almost like $|x-a|$, but not quite. The reverse triangle inequality can fix that, though, and then we can get our $delta$ in there:
begin{align*}&leqfrac{|x-a|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}mbox{ by the reverse triangle inequality}\&<frac{delta}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}end{align*}
Now, we're nearly done: just need to get rid of the $x$ at the bottom, but that's easy: $sqrt{|x|} geq 0$, so $left|sqrt{|x|} + sqrt{|a|}right| geq sqrt{|a|}$. Since it's in the denominator, we'll flip that around:
$$< frac{delta}{sqrt{|a|}}$$
So, if we just chose $delta = sqrt{|a|}varepsilon$, we'll be done:
$$ = varepsilon.$$
Now, we'll go back and fill in our definition of $delta$ at the top:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := sqrt{|a|}varepsilon > 0. $
and add some more boilerplate at the end:
Thus, $lim_{xto a}sqrt{|x|} = sqrt{|a|}$.
Putting that all together, the proof ends up as:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := sqrt{|a|}varepsilon > 0.$
Then for any $x in mathbb{R}$ such that $|x - a| < delta$, we have
begin{align*}left|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}right| &= frac{left|sqrt{|x|}-sqrt{|a|}right|left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&=frac{||x|-|a||}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&leqfrac{|x-a|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}mbox{ by the reverse triangle inequality}\&<frac{delta}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&leqfrac{delta}{sqrt{|a|}}\&=varepsilon.end{align*}
Thus, $lim_{xto a}sqrt{|x|} = sqrt{|a|}$.
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In this particular case, you just need to do the lower inequality as well. However, I'm going to give an overview of how to answer these sorts of questions in a way that makes sense, always works, and doesn't give people a headache when they're trying to mark it. I'll write out the proof as I'd write it in
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and write my commentary outside of them.
So, first, we notice that it's pretty obvious that the limit is going to be $sqrt{|a|}$. Now, we'll write down some boilerplate that's identical for any such proof:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := $
We don't know what $delta$ needs to be, yet, but we'll figure it out as we go, and just leave a space. Now, on with the boilerplate:
Then for any $x in mathbb{R}$ such that $|x - a| < delta$, we have
And now we'll start with the actual work, and try to fiddle with $|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}|$ to get something that looks like $|x - a|$, so we can get a $delta$ out, then use whatever conditions we're going to put on $delta$ to turn that into an $varepsilon$. First off, we'll try to use a difference of two squares to neaten things up a bit.
begin{align*}left|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}right| &= frac{left|sqrt{|x|}-sqrt{|a|}right|left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&=frac{||x|-|a||}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}end{align*}
Now, that thing on the top looks almost like $|x-a|$, but not quite. The reverse triangle inequality can fix that, though, and then we can get our $delta$ in there:
begin{align*}&leqfrac{|x-a|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}mbox{ by the reverse triangle inequality}\&<frac{delta}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}end{align*}
Now, we're nearly done: just need to get rid of the $x$ at the bottom, but that's easy: $sqrt{|x|} geq 0$, so $left|sqrt{|x|} + sqrt{|a|}right| geq sqrt{|a|}$. Since it's in the denominator, we'll flip that around:
$$< frac{delta}{sqrt{|a|}}$$
So, if we just chose $delta = sqrt{|a|}varepsilon$, we'll be done:
$$ = varepsilon.$$
Now, we'll go back and fill in our definition of $delta$ at the top:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := sqrt{|a|}varepsilon > 0. $
and add some more boilerplate at the end:
Thus, $lim_{xto a}sqrt{|x|} = sqrt{|a|}$.
Putting that all together, the proof ends up as:
Given any $varepsilon > 0$, let $delta := sqrt{|a|}varepsilon > 0.$
Then for any $x in mathbb{R}$ such that $|x - a| < delta$, we have
begin{align*}left|sqrt{|x|} - sqrt{|a|}right| &= frac{left|sqrt{|x|}-sqrt{|a|}right|left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&=frac{||x|-|a||}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&leqfrac{|x-a|}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}mbox{ by the reverse triangle inequality}\&<frac{delta}{left|sqrt{|x|}+sqrt{|a|}right|}\&leqfrac{delta}{sqrt{|a|}}\&=varepsilon.end{align*}
Thus, $lim_{xto a}sqrt{|x|} = sqrt{|a|}$.
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The reverse triangle equality gives $leq$ rather than $=,$ because you haven't ensured that $x$ and $a$ have the same sign. You could produce a more complicated formula for $delta$ to fix that, or you could just write $leq,$ which works fine.
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– David K
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The reverse triangle equality gives $leq$ rather than $=,$ because you haven't ensured that $x$ and $a$ have the same sign. You could produce a more complicated formula for $delta$ to fix that, or you could just write $leq,$ which works fine.
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– David K
Jan 8 at 16:47
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The reverse triangle equality gives $leq$ rather than $=,$ because you haven't ensured that $x$ and $a$ have the same sign. You could produce a more complicated formula for $delta$ to fix that, or you could just write $leq,$ which works fine.
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– David K
Jan 8 at 16:47
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The reverse triangle equality gives $leq$ rather than $=,$ because you haven't ensured that $x$ and $a$ have the same sign. You could produce a more complicated formula for $delta$ to fix that, or you could just write $leq,$ which works fine.
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– David K
Jan 8 at 16:47
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Do you already know that composition of continuous functions is continuous?
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– user251257
Jan 8 at 15:56
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Yes, I assumed a is not equal to zero
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– Michael_111111
Jan 8 at 16:01
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@user251257 I didn't consider that. Thanks. But I still would like to know if it is possible to answer the question without resorting to that theorem.
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– Michael_111111
Jan 8 at 16:04
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Your question is confusing. First you mention the rationale behind this sort of proof, but then you seem to be asking about how to prove this specifically, (and it's not just an example). What exactly do you want?
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– Git Gud
Jan 8 at 16:08
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As the previous comment implies, all you missed was the opportunity to take the absolute value of $|x| - |a|$ when you could. You wrote $|x| - |a|$ instead of $leftvert|x| - |a|rightvert,$ which gave you a statement that was true but not as strong as you needed.
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– David K
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