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The integral is$$int_0^{2pi}frac{mathrm dθ}{2-cosθ}.$$Just to skip time, the answer of the indefinite integral is $dfrac2{sqrt{3}}tan^{-1}left(sqrt3tanleft(dfracθ2right)right)$.



Evaluating it from $0$ to $ 2 pi$ yields$$frac2{sqrt3}tan^{-1}(sqrt3 tanπ)-frac2{sqrt3}tan^{-1}(sqrt3 tan0)=0-0=0.$$But using complex analysis, the integral is transformed into$$2iint_Cfrac{mathrm dz}{z^2-4z+1}=2iint_Cfrac{mathrm dz}{(z-2+sqrt3)(z-2-sqrt3)},$$
where $C$ is the boundary of the circle $|z|=1$. Then by Cauchy's integral formula, since $z=2-sqrt3$ is inside the domain of the region bounded by $C$, then:
$$2iint_Cfrac{mathrm dz}{(z-2+sqrt3)(z-2-sqrt3)}=2πifrac{2i}{2-sqrt3-2-sqrt3}=2πifrac{2i}{-2sqrt3}=frac{2π}{sqrt3}.$$



Using real analysis I get $0$, using complex analysis I get $dfrac{2π}{sqrt3}$. What is wrong?










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    OK, so I only spotted this after I already knew what the answer was, but nonetheless: notice that the integrand is always strictly positive, so the integral can't possibly be 0.
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The integral is$$int_0^{2pi}frac{mathrm dθ}{2-cosθ}.$$Just to skip time, the answer of the indefinite integral is $dfrac2{sqrt{3}}tan^{-1}left(sqrt3tanleft(dfracθ2right)right)$.



Evaluating it from $0$ to $ 2 pi$ yields$$frac2{sqrt3}tan^{-1}(sqrt3 tanπ)-frac2{sqrt3}tan^{-1}(sqrt3 tan0)=0-0=0.$$But using complex analysis, the integral is transformed into$$2iint_Cfrac{mathrm dz}{z^2-4z+1}=2iint_Cfrac{mathrm dz}{(z-2+sqrt3)(z-2-sqrt3)},$$
where $C$ is the boundary of the circle $|z|=1$. Then by Cauchy's integral formula, since $z=2-sqrt3$ is inside the domain of the region bounded by $C$, then:
$$2iint_Cfrac{mathrm dz}{(z-2+sqrt3)(z-2-sqrt3)}=2πifrac{2i}{2-sqrt3-2-sqrt3}=2πifrac{2i}{-2sqrt3}=frac{2π}{sqrt3}.$$



Using real analysis I get $0$, using complex analysis I get $dfrac{2π}{sqrt3}$. What is wrong?










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    OK, so I only spotted this after I already knew what the answer was, but nonetheless: notice that the integrand is always strictly positive, so the integral can't possibly be 0.
    – Ben Millwood
    Jan 2 at 12:56














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The integral is$$int_0^{2pi}frac{mathrm dθ}{2-cosθ}.$$Just to skip time, the answer of the indefinite integral is $dfrac2{sqrt{3}}tan^{-1}left(sqrt3tanleft(dfracθ2right)right)$.



Evaluating it from $0$ to $ 2 pi$ yields$$frac2{sqrt3}tan^{-1}(sqrt3 tanπ)-frac2{sqrt3}tan^{-1}(sqrt3 tan0)=0-0=0.$$But using complex analysis, the integral is transformed into$$2iint_Cfrac{mathrm dz}{z^2-4z+1}=2iint_Cfrac{mathrm dz}{(z-2+sqrt3)(z-2-sqrt3)},$$
where $C$ is the boundary of the circle $|z|=1$. Then by Cauchy's integral formula, since $z=2-sqrt3$ is inside the domain of the region bounded by $C$, then:
$$2iint_Cfrac{mathrm dz}{(z-2+sqrt3)(z-2-sqrt3)}=2πifrac{2i}{2-sqrt3-2-sqrt3}=2πifrac{2i}{-2sqrt3}=frac{2π}{sqrt3}.$$



Using real analysis I get $0$, using complex analysis I get $dfrac{2π}{sqrt3}$. What is wrong?










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The integral is$$int_0^{2pi}frac{mathrm dθ}{2-cosθ}.$$Just to skip time, the answer of the indefinite integral is $dfrac2{sqrt{3}}tan^{-1}left(sqrt3tanleft(dfracθ2right)right)$.



Evaluating it from $0$ to $ 2 pi$ yields$$frac2{sqrt3}tan^{-1}(sqrt3 tanπ)-frac2{sqrt3}tan^{-1}(sqrt3 tan0)=0-0=0.$$But using complex analysis, the integral is transformed into$$2iint_Cfrac{mathrm dz}{z^2-4z+1}=2iint_Cfrac{mathrm dz}{(z-2+sqrt3)(z-2-sqrt3)},$$
where $C$ is the boundary of the circle $|z|=1$. Then by Cauchy's integral formula, since $z=2-sqrt3$ is inside the domain of the region bounded by $C$, then:
$$2iint_Cfrac{mathrm dz}{(z-2+sqrt3)(z-2-sqrt3)}=2πifrac{2i}{2-sqrt3-2-sqrt3}=2πifrac{2i}{-2sqrt3}=frac{2π}{sqrt3}.$$



Using real analysis I get $0$, using complex analysis I get $dfrac{2π}{sqrt3}$. What is wrong?







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    OK, so I only spotted this after I already knew what the answer was, but nonetheless: notice that the integrand is always strictly positive, so the integral can't possibly be 0.
    – Ben Millwood
    Jan 2 at 12:56














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    OK, so I only spotted this after I already knew what the answer was, but nonetheless: notice that the integrand is always strictly positive, so the integral can't possibly be 0.
    – Ben Millwood
    Jan 2 at 12:56








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OK, so I only spotted this after I already knew what the answer was, but nonetheless: notice that the integrand is always strictly positive, so the integral can't possibly be 0.
– Ben Millwood
Jan 2 at 12:56




OK, so I only spotted this after I already knew what the answer was, but nonetheless: notice that the integrand is always strictly positive, so the integral can't possibly be 0.
– Ben Millwood
Jan 2 at 12:56










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The problem with the real approach is that you make the change of variable $t=tanleft(dfrac{theta}{2}right)$ for $0 < theta < 2 pi$.



This is problematic since your substitution need to be defined and continuous for all $theta$, but you have a problem when $theta=pi$.



Edit: Note that if you split the integral into $int_0^pi+int_pi^{2 pi}$, you are going to get the right answer, as for one integral you are going to get $arctan(- infty)$ and for the other $arctan(+infty)$:



$$int_0^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}=int_0^pi frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}+int_pi ^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}\
= lim_{r to pi_-} int_0^r frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}+ lim_{w to pi_+} int_w^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}\= lim_{r to pi_-} left(frac{2tan^-1( sqrt{3} tan( frac{ r}{2}))}{ sqrt{3}}-0right)+ lim_{w to pi_+}left(0- frac{2tan^-1( sqrt{3} tan( frac{ r}{2}))}{ sqrt{3}}right).$$






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    @khaled014z See the edit. Let me know if you want more details.
    – N. S.
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  • Brilliant, that was kind of a tricky substitution, thank you
    – khaled014z
    Jan 2 at 0:31










  • When this is next edited, you want tan^{-1} twice in the last line.
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Note that that tangent function, $tan(x)$, is discontinuous when $x=pi/2+npi$. So, the antiderivative $frac2{sqrt{3}} arctanleft(sqrt 3 tan(theta/2)right)$ is not valid over the interval $[0,2pi]$.



Instead, we have



$$int_0^{2pi}frac{1}{2-cos(theta)},dtheta=2int_0^pifrac{1}{2-cos(theta)},dtheta=frac{4}{sqrt3}left.left(arctanleft(sqrt 3 tan(theta/2)right)right)right|_0^pi=frac{2pi}{sqrt3}$$






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  • Don't you mean $x = frac{pi}{2} + npi$?
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  • Hi Mark ! Happy New Year !
    – Claude Leibovici
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  • @DavidG Yes, of course. Thank you for the comment.
    – Mark Viola
    Jan 2 at 14:36










  • @ClaudeLeibovici Hi Claude! Happy New Year to you too!
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The problem with the real approach is that you make the change of variable $t=tanleft(dfrac{theta}{2}right)$ for $0 < theta < 2 pi$.



This is problematic since your substitution need to be defined and continuous for all $theta$, but you have a problem when $theta=pi$.



Edit: Note that if you split the integral into $int_0^pi+int_pi^{2 pi}$, you are going to get the right answer, as for one integral you are going to get $arctan(- infty)$ and for the other $arctan(+infty)$:



$$int_0^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}=int_0^pi frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}+int_pi ^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}\
= lim_{r to pi_-} int_0^r frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}+ lim_{w to pi_+} int_w^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}\= lim_{r to pi_-} left(frac{2tan^-1( sqrt{3} tan( frac{ r}{2}))}{ sqrt{3}}-0right)+ lim_{w to pi_+}left(0- frac{2tan^-1( sqrt{3} tan( frac{ r}{2}))}{ sqrt{3}}right).$$






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  • Oh I see, so I have to solve it without this substitution? Or could I keep this substitution and change something else?
    – khaled014z
    Jan 2 at 0:26






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    @khaled014z See the edit. Let me know if you want more details.
    – N. S.
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  • Brilliant, that was kind of a tricky substitution, thank you
    – khaled014z
    Jan 2 at 0:31










  • When this is next edited, you want tan^{-1} twice in the last line.
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The problem with the real approach is that you make the change of variable $t=tanleft(dfrac{theta}{2}right)$ for $0 < theta < 2 pi$.



This is problematic since your substitution need to be defined and continuous for all $theta$, but you have a problem when $theta=pi$.



Edit: Note that if you split the integral into $int_0^pi+int_pi^{2 pi}$, you are going to get the right answer, as for one integral you are going to get $arctan(- infty)$ and for the other $arctan(+infty)$:



$$int_0^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}=int_0^pi frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}+int_pi ^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}\
= lim_{r to pi_-} int_0^r frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}+ lim_{w to pi_+} int_w^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}\= lim_{r to pi_-} left(frac{2tan^-1( sqrt{3} tan( frac{ r}{2}))}{ sqrt{3}}-0right)+ lim_{w to pi_+}left(0- frac{2tan^-1( sqrt{3} tan( frac{ r}{2}))}{ sqrt{3}}right).$$






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    @khaled014z See the edit. Let me know if you want more details.
    – N. S.
    Jan 2 at 0:27












  • Brilliant, that was kind of a tricky substitution, thank you
    – khaled014z
    Jan 2 at 0:31










  • When this is next edited, you want tan^{-1} twice in the last line.
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The problem with the real approach is that you make the change of variable $t=tanleft(dfrac{theta}{2}right)$ for $0 < theta < 2 pi$.



This is problematic since your substitution need to be defined and continuous for all $theta$, but you have a problem when $theta=pi$.



Edit: Note that if you split the integral into $int_0^pi+int_pi^{2 pi}$, you are going to get the right answer, as for one integral you are going to get $arctan(- infty)$ and for the other $arctan(+infty)$:



$$int_0^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}=int_0^pi frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}+int_pi ^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}\
= lim_{r to pi_-} int_0^r frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}+ lim_{w to pi_+} int_w^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}\= lim_{r to pi_-} left(frac{2tan^-1( sqrt{3} tan( frac{ r}{2}))}{ sqrt{3}}-0right)+ lim_{w to pi_+}left(0- frac{2tan^-1( sqrt{3} tan( frac{ r}{2}))}{ sqrt{3}}right).$$






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The problem with the real approach is that you make the change of variable $t=tanleft(dfrac{theta}{2}right)$ for $0 < theta < 2 pi$.



This is problematic since your substitution need to be defined and continuous for all $theta$, but you have a problem when $theta=pi$.



Edit: Note that if you split the integral into $int_0^pi+int_pi^{2 pi}$, you are going to get the right answer, as for one integral you are going to get $arctan(- infty)$ and for the other $arctan(+infty)$:



$$int_0^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}=int_0^pi frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}+int_pi ^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}\
= lim_{r to pi_-} int_0^r frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}+ lim_{w to pi_+} int_w^{2 pi} frac{mathrm{d}θ}{2-cos theta}\= lim_{r to pi_-} left(frac{2tan^-1( sqrt{3} tan( frac{ r}{2}))}{ sqrt{3}}-0right)+ lim_{w to pi_+}left(0- frac{2tan^-1( sqrt{3} tan( frac{ r}{2}))}{ sqrt{3}}right).$$







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  • Oh I see, so I have to solve it without this substitution? Or could I keep this substitution and change something else?
    – khaled014z
    Jan 2 at 0:26






  • 1




    @khaled014z See the edit. Let me know if you want more details.
    – N. S.
    Jan 2 at 0:27












  • Brilliant, that was kind of a tricky substitution, thank you
    – khaled014z
    Jan 2 at 0:31










  • When this is next edited, you want tan^{-1} twice in the last line.
    – Teepeemm
    Jan 2 at 14:12


















  • Oh I see, so I have to solve it without this substitution? Or could I keep this substitution and change something else?
    – khaled014z
    Jan 2 at 0:26






  • 1




    @khaled014z See the edit. Let me know if you want more details.
    – N. S.
    Jan 2 at 0:27












  • Brilliant, that was kind of a tricky substitution, thank you
    – khaled014z
    Jan 2 at 0:31










  • When this is next edited, you want tan^{-1} twice in the last line.
    – Teepeemm
    Jan 2 at 14:12
















Oh I see, so I have to solve it without this substitution? Or could I keep this substitution and change something else?
– khaled014z
Jan 2 at 0:26




Oh I see, so I have to solve it without this substitution? Or could I keep this substitution and change something else?
– khaled014z
Jan 2 at 0:26




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@khaled014z See the edit. Let me know if you want more details.
– N. S.
Jan 2 at 0:27






@khaled014z See the edit. Let me know if you want more details.
– N. S.
Jan 2 at 0:27














Brilliant, that was kind of a tricky substitution, thank you
– khaled014z
Jan 2 at 0:31




Brilliant, that was kind of a tricky substitution, thank you
– khaled014z
Jan 2 at 0:31












When this is next edited, you want tan^{-1} twice in the last line.
– Teepeemm
Jan 2 at 14:12




When this is next edited, you want tan^{-1} twice in the last line.
– Teepeemm
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Note that that tangent function, $tan(x)$, is discontinuous when $x=pi/2+npi$. So, the antiderivative $frac2{sqrt{3}} arctanleft(sqrt 3 tan(theta/2)right)$ is not valid over the interval $[0,2pi]$.



Instead, we have



$$int_0^{2pi}frac{1}{2-cos(theta)},dtheta=2int_0^pifrac{1}{2-cos(theta)},dtheta=frac{4}{sqrt3}left.left(arctanleft(sqrt 3 tan(theta/2)right)right)right|_0^pi=frac{2pi}{sqrt3}$$






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  • Don't you mean $x = frac{pi}{2} + npi$?
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  • Hi Mark ! Happy New Year !
    – Claude Leibovici
    Jan 2 at 3:33










  • @DavidG Yes, of course. Thank you for the comment.
    – Mark Viola
    Jan 2 at 14:36










  • @ClaudeLeibovici Hi Claude! Happy New Year to you too!
    – Mark Viola
    Jan 2 at 14:36
















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Note that that tangent function, $tan(x)$, is discontinuous when $x=pi/2+npi$. So, the antiderivative $frac2{sqrt{3}} arctanleft(sqrt 3 tan(theta/2)right)$ is not valid over the interval $[0,2pi]$.



Instead, we have



$$int_0^{2pi}frac{1}{2-cos(theta)},dtheta=2int_0^pifrac{1}{2-cos(theta)},dtheta=frac{4}{sqrt3}left.left(arctanleft(sqrt 3 tan(theta/2)right)right)right|_0^pi=frac{2pi}{sqrt3}$$






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  • Don't you mean $x = frac{pi}{2} + npi$?
    – DavidG
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  • Hi Mark ! Happy New Year !
    – Claude Leibovici
    Jan 2 at 3:33










  • @DavidG Yes, of course. Thank you for the comment.
    – Mark Viola
    Jan 2 at 14:36










  • @ClaudeLeibovici Hi Claude! Happy New Year to you too!
    – Mark Viola
    Jan 2 at 14:36














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Note that that tangent function, $tan(x)$, is discontinuous when $x=pi/2+npi$. So, the antiderivative $frac2{sqrt{3}} arctanleft(sqrt 3 tan(theta/2)right)$ is not valid over the interval $[0,2pi]$.



Instead, we have



$$int_0^{2pi}frac{1}{2-cos(theta)},dtheta=2int_0^pifrac{1}{2-cos(theta)},dtheta=frac{4}{sqrt3}left.left(arctanleft(sqrt 3 tan(theta/2)right)right)right|_0^pi=frac{2pi}{sqrt3}$$






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Note that that tangent function, $tan(x)$, is discontinuous when $x=pi/2+npi$. So, the antiderivative $frac2{sqrt{3}} arctanleft(sqrt 3 tan(theta/2)right)$ is not valid over the interval $[0,2pi]$.



Instead, we have



$$int_0^{2pi}frac{1}{2-cos(theta)},dtheta=2int_0^pifrac{1}{2-cos(theta)},dtheta=frac{4}{sqrt3}left.left(arctanleft(sqrt 3 tan(theta/2)right)right)right|_0^pi=frac{2pi}{sqrt3}$$







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  • Don't you mean $x = frac{pi}{2} + npi$?
    – DavidG
    Jan 2 at 3:18










  • Hi Mark ! Happy New Year !
    – Claude Leibovici
    Jan 2 at 3:33










  • @DavidG Yes, of course. Thank you for the comment.
    – Mark Viola
    Jan 2 at 14:36










  • @ClaudeLeibovici Hi Claude! Happy New Year to you too!
    – Mark Viola
    Jan 2 at 14:36


















  • Don't you mean $x = frac{pi}{2} + npi$?
    – DavidG
    Jan 2 at 3:18










  • Hi Mark ! Happy New Year !
    – Claude Leibovici
    Jan 2 at 3:33










  • @DavidG Yes, of course. Thank you for the comment.
    – Mark Viola
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  • @ClaudeLeibovici Hi Claude! Happy New Year to you too!
    – Mark Viola
    Jan 2 at 14:36
















Don't you mean $x = frac{pi}{2} + npi$?
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Don't you mean $x = frac{pi}{2} + npi$?
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Hi Mark ! Happy New Year !
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Hi Mark ! Happy New Year !
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@DavidG Yes, of course. Thank you for the comment.
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@DavidG Yes, of course. Thank you for the comment.
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@ClaudeLeibovici Hi Claude! Happy New Year to you too!
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@ClaudeLeibovici Hi Claude! Happy New Year to you too!
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