Convergence in the topology of $L^2_text{loc}$ implies convergence in $B^2$?
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Let $f_n$ be a sequence of functions in $L^2_text{loc}(mathbb{R})$ which converge to a function $fin L^2_text{loc}(mathbb{R})$ in the topology of $L^2_text{loc}(mathbb{R})$, i.e., $f_nto f$ in $L^2(K)$ for all compact subsets $Ksubsetmathbb{R}$.
A function is said to be Besicovitch almost periodic if it is the limit of trigonometrical polynomials in the seminorm $|f|_2=left(lim_{Ttoinfty}frac{1}{2T}int_{-T}^T|f(x)|^2dyright)^{1/2}$. Clearly, all Besicovitch almost periodic functions are locally square integrable.
Assuming that $f_n,f$ are Besicovitch almost periodic, can we also conclude that $f_nto f$ in the seminorm of almost periodic functions, i.e, $|f_n-f|_2to 0$?
functional-analysis lebesgue-integral almost-periodic-functions
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Let $f_n$ be a sequence of functions in $L^2_text{loc}(mathbb{R})$ which converge to a function $fin L^2_text{loc}(mathbb{R})$ in the topology of $L^2_text{loc}(mathbb{R})$, i.e., $f_nto f$ in $L^2(K)$ for all compact subsets $Ksubsetmathbb{R}$.
A function is said to be Besicovitch almost periodic if it is the limit of trigonometrical polynomials in the seminorm $|f|_2=left(lim_{Ttoinfty}frac{1}{2T}int_{-T}^T|f(x)|^2dyright)^{1/2}$. Clearly, all Besicovitch almost periodic functions are locally square integrable.
Assuming that $f_n,f$ are Besicovitch almost periodic, can we also conclude that $f_nto f$ in the seminorm of almost periodic functions, i.e, $|f_n-f|_2to 0$?
functional-analysis lebesgue-integral almost-periodic-functions
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Let $f_n$ be a sequence of functions in $L^2_text{loc}(mathbb{R})$ which converge to a function $fin L^2_text{loc}(mathbb{R})$ in the topology of $L^2_text{loc}(mathbb{R})$, i.e., $f_nto f$ in $L^2(K)$ for all compact subsets $Ksubsetmathbb{R}$.
A function is said to be Besicovitch almost periodic if it is the limit of trigonometrical polynomials in the seminorm $|f|_2=left(lim_{Ttoinfty}frac{1}{2T}int_{-T}^T|f(x)|^2dyright)^{1/2}$. Clearly, all Besicovitch almost periodic functions are locally square integrable.
Assuming that $f_n,f$ are Besicovitch almost periodic, can we also conclude that $f_nto f$ in the seminorm of almost periodic functions, i.e, $|f_n-f|_2to 0$?
functional-analysis lebesgue-integral almost-periodic-functions
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Let $f_n$ be a sequence of functions in $L^2_text{loc}(mathbb{R})$ which converge to a function $fin L^2_text{loc}(mathbb{R})$ in the topology of $L^2_text{loc}(mathbb{R})$, i.e., $f_nto f$ in $L^2(K)$ for all compact subsets $Ksubsetmathbb{R}$.
A function is said to be Besicovitch almost periodic if it is the limit of trigonometrical polynomials in the seminorm $|f|_2=left(lim_{Ttoinfty}frac{1}{2T}int_{-T}^T|f(x)|^2dyright)^{1/2}$. Clearly, all Besicovitch almost periodic functions are locally square integrable.
Assuming that $f_n,f$ are Besicovitch almost periodic, can we also conclude that $f_nto f$ in the seminorm of almost periodic functions, i.e, $|f_n-f|_2to 0$?
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functional-analysis lebesgue-integral almost-periodic-functions
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No, convergence in $L_{loc}^2(mathbb{R})$ does not imply convergence in the seminorm. Consider
$$ f_n(x) = sinleft( frac{2pi x}{n} right) $$
Clearly $f_n$ is Besicovitch almost periodic. Furthermore, it converges locally uniformly to the zero function and hence it converges in $L_{loc}^2(mathbb{R})$ to the zero function (which of course is Besicovitch almost periodic itself). However, we do not have convergence in the seminorm as (now we use that $f_n$ is $n$-periodic)
$$ vert f_n - 0 vert_2^2 = frac{1}{2n} int_{-n}^{n} vert f_n(x) vert^2 dx = frac{1}{2} int_{-1}^{1} vert sin(2pi y) vert^2 dy =1. $$
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$sin(x frac{n+1}{n})$ is another example. To repair it we can try replacing $|f_n-f|_2$ by things like $| (f_n-f) ast phi_m|_2$ where $phi_m(x) = m e^{-pi m^2 x^2}$
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– reuns
Mar 10 at 20:19
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@reuns I would guess that fixing a common frequency module which has finite rank would allow us to conclude as well (however, I am not completely sure).
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– Severin Schraven
Mar 10 at 20:31
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I meant replacing $ frac{1}{2m} int_{-m}^m |f_n(x)-f(x)|^2dx$ by $int_{-infty}^infty (f_n-f)astphi_m(x) e^{-pi x^2/m^2} dx$. The convolution by $phi_m$ is to repair your example, the multiplication by $e^{-pi x^2/m^2}$ is to repair mine.
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– reuns
Mar 10 at 20:45
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@reuns I meant that if we assumed in addition that all the function in the sequence are quasiperiodic with the same frequency module, then the result might be true.
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– Severin Schraven
Mar 10 at 21:08
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No, convergence in $L_{loc}^2(mathbb{R})$ does not imply convergence in the seminorm. Consider
$$ f_n(x) = sinleft( frac{2pi x}{n} right) $$
Clearly $f_n$ is Besicovitch almost periodic. Furthermore, it converges locally uniformly to the zero function and hence it converges in $L_{loc}^2(mathbb{R})$ to the zero function (which of course is Besicovitch almost periodic itself). However, we do not have convergence in the seminorm as (now we use that $f_n$ is $n$-periodic)
$$ vert f_n - 0 vert_2^2 = frac{1}{2n} int_{-n}^{n} vert f_n(x) vert^2 dx = frac{1}{2} int_{-1}^{1} vert sin(2pi y) vert^2 dy =1. $$
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$sin(x frac{n+1}{n})$ is another example. To repair it we can try replacing $|f_n-f|_2$ by things like $| (f_n-f) ast phi_m|_2$ where $phi_m(x) = m e^{-pi m^2 x^2}$
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– reuns
Mar 10 at 20:19
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@reuns I would guess that fixing a common frequency module which has finite rank would allow us to conclude as well (however, I am not completely sure).
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– Severin Schraven
Mar 10 at 20:31
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I meant replacing $ frac{1}{2m} int_{-m}^m |f_n(x)-f(x)|^2dx$ by $int_{-infty}^infty (f_n-f)astphi_m(x) e^{-pi x^2/m^2} dx$. The convolution by $phi_m$ is to repair your example, the multiplication by $e^{-pi x^2/m^2}$ is to repair mine.
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– reuns
Mar 10 at 20:45
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@reuns I meant that if we assumed in addition that all the function in the sequence are quasiperiodic with the same frequency module, then the result might be true.
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– Severin Schraven
Mar 10 at 21:08
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No, convergence in $L_{loc}^2(mathbb{R})$ does not imply convergence in the seminorm. Consider
$$ f_n(x) = sinleft( frac{2pi x}{n} right) $$
Clearly $f_n$ is Besicovitch almost periodic. Furthermore, it converges locally uniformly to the zero function and hence it converges in $L_{loc}^2(mathbb{R})$ to the zero function (which of course is Besicovitch almost periodic itself). However, we do not have convergence in the seminorm as (now we use that $f_n$ is $n$-periodic)
$$ vert f_n - 0 vert_2^2 = frac{1}{2n} int_{-n}^{n} vert f_n(x) vert^2 dx = frac{1}{2} int_{-1}^{1} vert sin(2pi y) vert^2 dy =1. $$
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$sin(x frac{n+1}{n})$ is another example. To repair it we can try replacing $|f_n-f|_2$ by things like $| (f_n-f) ast phi_m|_2$ where $phi_m(x) = m e^{-pi m^2 x^2}$
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– reuns
Mar 10 at 20:19
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@reuns I would guess that fixing a common frequency module which has finite rank would allow us to conclude as well (however, I am not completely sure).
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– Severin Schraven
Mar 10 at 20:31
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I meant replacing $ frac{1}{2m} int_{-m}^m |f_n(x)-f(x)|^2dx$ by $int_{-infty}^infty (f_n-f)astphi_m(x) e^{-pi x^2/m^2} dx$. The convolution by $phi_m$ is to repair your example, the multiplication by $e^{-pi x^2/m^2}$ is to repair mine.
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– reuns
Mar 10 at 20:45
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@reuns I meant that if we assumed in addition that all the function in the sequence are quasiperiodic with the same frequency module, then the result might be true.
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– Severin Schraven
Mar 10 at 21:08
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No, convergence in $L_{loc}^2(mathbb{R})$ does not imply convergence in the seminorm. Consider
$$ f_n(x) = sinleft( frac{2pi x}{n} right) $$
Clearly $f_n$ is Besicovitch almost periodic. Furthermore, it converges locally uniformly to the zero function and hence it converges in $L_{loc}^2(mathbb{R})$ to the zero function (which of course is Besicovitch almost periodic itself). However, we do not have convergence in the seminorm as (now we use that $f_n$ is $n$-periodic)
$$ vert f_n - 0 vert_2^2 = frac{1}{2n} int_{-n}^{n} vert f_n(x) vert^2 dx = frac{1}{2} int_{-1}^{1} vert sin(2pi y) vert^2 dy =1. $$
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No, convergence in $L_{loc}^2(mathbb{R})$ does not imply convergence in the seminorm. Consider
$$ f_n(x) = sinleft( frac{2pi x}{n} right) $$
Clearly $f_n$ is Besicovitch almost periodic. Furthermore, it converges locally uniformly to the zero function and hence it converges in $L_{loc}^2(mathbb{R})$ to the zero function (which of course is Besicovitch almost periodic itself). However, we do not have convergence in the seminorm as (now we use that $f_n$ is $n$-periodic)
$$ vert f_n - 0 vert_2^2 = frac{1}{2n} int_{-n}^{n} vert f_n(x) vert^2 dx = frac{1}{2} int_{-1}^{1} vert sin(2pi y) vert^2 dy =1. $$
answered Mar 10 at 19:55
Severin SchravenSeverin Schraven
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$sin(x frac{n+1}{n})$ is another example. To repair it we can try replacing $|f_n-f|_2$ by things like $| (f_n-f) ast phi_m|_2$ where $phi_m(x) = m e^{-pi m^2 x^2}$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 10 at 20:19
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@reuns I would guess that fixing a common frequency module which has finite rank would allow us to conclude as well (however, I am not completely sure).
$endgroup$
– Severin Schraven
Mar 10 at 20:31
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I meant replacing $ frac{1}{2m} int_{-m}^m |f_n(x)-f(x)|^2dx$ by $int_{-infty}^infty (f_n-f)astphi_m(x) e^{-pi x^2/m^2} dx$. The convolution by $phi_m$ is to repair your example, the multiplication by $e^{-pi x^2/m^2}$ is to repair mine.
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– reuns
Mar 10 at 20:45
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@reuns I meant that if we assumed in addition that all the function in the sequence are quasiperiodic with the same frequency module, then the result might be true.
$endgroup$
– Severin Schraven
Mar 10 at 21:08
add a comment |
$begingroup$
$sin(x frac{n+1}{n})$ is another example. To repair it we can try replacing $|f_n-f|_2$ by things like $| (f_n-f) ast phi_m|_2$ where $phi_m(x) = m e^{-pi m^2 x^2}$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 10 at 20:19
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@reuns I would guess that fixing a common frequency module which has finite rank would allow us to conclude as well (however, I am not completely sure).
$endgroup$
– Severin Schraven
Mar 10 at 20:31
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I meant replacing $ frac{1}{2m} int_{-m}^m |f_n(x)-f(x)|^2dx$ by $int_{-infty}^infty (f_n-f)astphi_m(x) e^{-pi x^2/m^2} dx$. The convolution by $phi_m$ is to repair your example, the multiplication by $e^{-pi x^2/m^2}$ is to repair mine.
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 10 at 20:45
$begingroup$
@reuns I meant that if we assumed in addition that all the function in the sequence are quasiperiodic with the same frequency module, then the result might be true.
$endgroup$
– Severin Schraven
Mar 10 at 21:08
$begingroup$
$sin(x frac{n+1}{n})$ is another example. To repair it we can try replacing $|f_n-f|_2$ by things like $| (f_n-f) ast phi_m|_2$ where $phi_m(x) = m e^{-pi m^2 x^2}$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 10 at 20:19
$begingroup$
$sin(x frac{n+1}{n})$ is another example. To repair it we can try replacing $|f_n-f|_2$ by things like $| (f_n-f) ast phi_m|_2$ where $phi_m(x) = m e^{-pi m^2 x^2}$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 10 at 20:19
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@reuns I would guess that fixing a common frequency module which has finite rank would allow us to conclude as well (however, I am not completely sure).
$endgroup$
– Severin Schraven
Mar 10 at 20:31
$begingroup$
@reuns I would guess that fixing a common frequency module which has finite rank would allow us to conclude as well (however, I am not completely sure).
$endgroup$
– Severin Schraven
Mar 10 at 20:31
$begingroup$
I meant replacing $ frac{1}{2m} int_{-m}^m |f_n(x)-f(x)|^2dx$ by $int_{-infty}^infty (f_n-f)astphi_m(x) e^{-pi x^2/m^2} dx$. The convolution by $phi_m$ is to repair your example, the multiplication by $e^{-pi x^2/m^2}$ is to repair mine.
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 10 at 20:45
$begingroup$
I meant replacing $ frac{1}{2m} int_{-m}^m |f_n(x)-f(x)|^2dx$ by $int_{-infty}^infty (f_n-f)astphi_m(x) e^{-pi x^2/m^2} dx$. The convolution by $phi_m$ is to repair your example, the multiplication by $e^{-pi x^2/m^2}$ is to repair mine.
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– reuns
Mar 10 at 20:45
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@reuns I meant that if we assumed in addition that all the function in the sequence are quasiperiodic with the same frequency module, then the result might be true.
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– Severin Schraven
Mar 10 at 21:08
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@reuns I meant that if we assumed in addition that all the function in the sequence are quasiperiodic with the same frequency module, then the result might be true.
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– Severin Schraven
Mar 10 at 21:08
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