Assumed existence of an intermediate set given $A subseteq B$
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If I know that there are two sets, $A$ and $B$, such that $B subseteq A$, can I assume for a proof that there is a $C$ such that $B subseteq C subseteq A$ since either $A = B = C$, $B = C subset A$, $B subset C = A$, or that there exists a $C$ such that $B subset C subset A$?
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If I know that there are two sets, $A$ and $B$, such that $B subseteq A$, can I assume for a proof that there is a $C$ such that $B subseteq C subseteq A$ since either $A = B = C$, $B = C subset A$, $B subset C = A$, or that there exists a $C$ such that $B subset C subset A$?
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If $subseteq$, obviously yes : $C=A$ or $C=B$ will do.
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– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Jan 16 at 12:37
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$C=B$ or $C=A$ always works.
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– xbh
Jan 16 at 12:38
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If $subset$, not necessarily. A set ${ a }$ with a single element (singleton) has only two subsets : $emptyset$ and ${ a }$ itself.
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– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Jan 16 at 12:39
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@MauroALLEGRANZA The thing is, while I know that $A subseteq B$, I need to apply a function to each that doesn't necessarily preserve the equality. It turned out that if I take $C = A$ it works, but I wasn't sure before and needed the possibility of an intermediate set.
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– PixelArtDragon
Jan 16 at 13:06
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If I know that there are two sets, $A$ and $B$, such that $B subseteq A$, can I assume for a proof that there is a $C$ such that $B subseteq C subseteq A$ since either $A = B = C$, $B = C subset A$, $B subset C = A$, or that there exists a $C$ such that $B subset C subset A$?
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If I know that there are two sets, $A$ and $B$, such that $B subseteq A$, can I assume for a proof that there is a $C$ such that $B subseteq C subseteq A$ since either $A = B = C$, $B = C subset A$, $B subset C = A$, or that there exists a $C$ such that $B subset C subset A$?
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If $subseteq$, obviously yes : $C=A$ or $C=B$ will do.
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– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Jan 16 at 12:37
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$C=B$ or $C=A$ always works.
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– xbh
Jan 16 at 12:38
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If $subset$, not necessarily. A set ${ a }$ with a single element (singleton) has only two subsets : $emptyset$ and ${ a }$ itself.
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– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Jan 16 at 12:39
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@MauroALLEGRANZA The thing is, while I know that $A subseteq B$, I need to apply a function to each that doesn't necessarily preserve the equality. It turned out that if I take $C = A$ it works, but I wasn't sure before and needed the possibility of an intermediate set.
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– PixelArtDragon
Jan 16 at 13:06
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If $subseteq$, obviously yes : $C=A$ or $C=B$ will do.
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– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Jan 16 at 12:37
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$C=B$ or $C=A$ always works.
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– xbh
Jan 16 at 12:38
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If $subset$, not necessarily. A set ${ a }$ with a single element (singleton) has only two subsets : $emptyset$ and ${ a }$ itself.
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– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Jan 16 at 12:39
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@MauroALLEGRANZA The thing is, while I know that $A subseteq B$, I need to apply a function to each that doesn't necessarily preserve the equality. It turned out that if I take $C = A$ it works, but I wasn't sure before and needed the possibility of an intermediate set.
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– PixelArtDragon
Jan 16 at 13:06
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If $subseteq$, obviously yes : $C=A$ or $C=B$ will do.
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– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Jan 16 at 12:37
$begingroup$
If $subseteq$, obviously yes : $C=A$ or $C=B$ will do.
$endgroup$
– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Jan 16 at 12:37
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$C=B$ or $C=A$ always works.
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– xbh
Jan 16 at 12:38
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$C=B$ or $C=A$ always works.
$endgroup$
– xbh
Jan 16 at 12:38
$begingroup$
If $subset$, not necessarily. A set ${ a }$ with a single element (singleton) has only two subsets : $emptyset$ and ${ a }$ itself.
$endgroup$
– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Jan 16 at 12:39
$begingroup$
If $subset$, not necessarily. A set ${ a }$ with a single element (singleton) has only two subsets : $emptyset$ and ${ a }$ itself.
$endgroup$
– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Jan 16 at 12:39
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@MauroALLEGRANZA The thing is, while I know that $A subseteq B$, I need to apply a function to each that doesn't necessarily preserve the equality. It turned out that if I take $C = A$ it works, but I wasn't sure before and needed the possibility of an intermediate set.
$endgroup$
– PixelArtDragon
Jan 16 at 13:06
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@MauroALLEGRANZA The thing is, while I know that $A subseteq B$, I need to apply a function to each that doesn't necessarily preserve the equality. It turned out that if I take $C = A$ it works, but I wasn't sure before and needed the possibility of an intermediate set.
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– PixelArtDragon
Jan 16 at 13:06
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If $subseteq$, obviously yes : $C=A$ or $C=B$ will do.
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– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Jan 16 at 12:37
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$C=B$ or $C=A$ always works.
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– xbh
Jan 16 at 12:38
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If $subset$, not necessarily. A set ${ a }$ with a single element (singleton) has only two subsets : $emptyset$ and ${ a }$ itself.
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– Mauro ALLEGRANZA
Jan 16 at 12:39
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@MauroALLEGRANZA The thing is, while I know that $A subseteq B$, I need to apply a function to each that doesn't necessarily preserve the equality. It turned out that if I take $C = A$ it works, but I wasn't sure before and needed the possibility of an intermediate set.
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– PixelArtDragon
Jan 16 at 13:06