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Find the relation between $a, b, c, d$ if the roots of $ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0$ are in geometric progression.



By considering $(alpha+beta)(beta+gamma)(alpha+gamma)$ show that the above cubic equation has two roots equal in size but opposite in sign if and only if $ad=bc$.




I can do the second part if I am given some hints on the first. I can use $beta$ as the middle root and make $alpha=beta/r$ and $gamma=r times beta$, but haven't got anywhere so far.










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    Find the relation between $a, b, c, d$ if the roots of $ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0$ are in geometric progression.



    By considering $(alpha+beta)(beta+gamma)(alpha+gamma)$ show that the above cubic equation has two roots equal in size but opposite in sign if and only if $ad=bc$.




    I can do the second part if I am given some hints on the first. I can use $beta$ as the middle root and make $alpha=beta/r$ and $gamma=r times beta$, but haven't got anywhere so far.










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      Find the relation between $a, b, c, d$ if the roots of $ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0$ are in geometric progression.



      By considering $(alpha+beta)(beta+gamma)(alpha+gamma)$ show that the above cubic equation has two roots equal in size but opposite in sign if and only if $ad=bc$.




      I can do the second part if I am given some hints on the first. I can use $beta$ as the middle root and make $alpha=beta/r$ and $gamma=r times beta$, but haven't got anywhere so far.










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      Find the relation between $a, b, c, d$ if the roots of $ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0$ are in geometric progression.



      By considering $(alpha+beta)(beta+gamma)(alpha+gamma)$ show that the above cubic equation has two roots equal in size but opposite in sign if and only if $ad=bc$.




      I can do the second part if I am given some hints on the first. I can use $beta$ as the middle root and make $alpha=beta/r$ and $gamma=r times beta$, but haven't got anywhere so far.







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          The monic polynomial with roots $beta/r,beta, rbeta$ is
          $$ x^3-betaleft(1+r+frac1rright) x^2+beta^2left(1+r+frac1rright)x-beta^3$$
          We find $beta=-frac cb$ and $beta^3=-frac da$, hence
          $$db^3=ac^3$$
          as necessary condition. Why is it also sufficient? What additional condition(s) would we need if we wanted the roots to be real?






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            If $alpha, beta, gamma$ are the roots of $ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0$



            Using Vieta's Formulas, $$alpha+beta+gamma=-frac ba, alphabeta+betagamma+gammaalpha=frac ca,alphabetagamma=-frac da$$



            If $alpha,beta,gamma$ are in Geometric Progression, $fracbetaalpha=fracgammabeta$ is constant $=r$(say).
            Clearly, $alpha rne 0$



            $implies beta=alpha r, gamma=beta r=alpha r^2$



            $$implies alpha+alpha r+alpha r^2=-frac baimplies alpha(1+r+r^2)=-frac ba$$



            $$alphaalpha r+alpha ralpha r^2+alpha r^2alpha=frac caimplies alpha^2 r(1+r+r^2)=frac ca$$



            $$alphaalpha ralpha r^2=-frac daimplies alpha^3 r^3=-frac da$$



            So, $$frac{alpha^2 r(1+r+r^2)}{alpha(1+r+r^2)}=frac{frac ca}{-frac ba}implies alpha r=-frac cb text{ if }1+r+r^2ne0$$



            Then, $$left(-frac cbright)^3=-frac daimplies b^3d=c^3a$$



            If $1+r+r^2=0,$



            $b=c=0$
            and $r=frac{-1pmsqrt3}2$ i.e., r is a complex cube root of $1$



            So, the equation reduces to $ax^3+d=0$ whose roots are $left(-frac daright)^frac13,left(-frac daright)^frac13r, left(-frac daright)^frac13r^2$.



            So, we don't find any relationship among $a,b,c$ and $d$ here.





            In the 2nd case, let us find the equation whose roots are $alpha+beta,beta+gamma, gamma+alpha$ using the Transformation of Equations.



            If $y=alpha+beta=alpha+beta+gamma-gamma=-frac ba-gammaimplies gamma=-left(y+frac baright)$



            As $gamma$ is a root of the given equation, $-aleft(y+frac baright)^3+bleft(y+frac baright)^2-cleft(y+frac baright)+d=0$



            On simplification, $$ay^3+(cdots)y^2+(cdots)y^2+frac{bc-ad}a=0$$ whose roots are $alpha+beta,beta+gamma, gamma+alpha$



            Using Vieta's Formulas again, $(alpha+beta)(beta+gamma)(gamma+alpha)=frac{ad-bc}{a^2}$



            If among $alpha,beta,gamma$ two have same absolute value but opposite sign, $(alpha+beta)(beta+gamma)(gamma+alpha)=0implies ad=bc$ (the condition is necessary)



            Sufficiency: Again, if $ad=bc,$ $frac ab=frac cd=t$(say,) so $a=bt,c=dt$



            Then the equation becomes $$btx^3+bx^2+dtx+d=0implies bx^2(tx+1)+d(tx+1)=0$$



            So, $$(tx+1)(bx^2+d)=0$$ One root is $-frac1t$ What about the others?






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              $x=sqrt{-d/b}$ which is not really $1/t$, the thing we need?
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              @user52187, I left it for you to find the two roots other than $-frac1t=-frac ba=-frac dc$ to prove the proposition as it is after all a 'homework'.
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              So is what I wrote incorrect?
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              @user52187, no. You are right when you say $frac1tne pmsqrt{-frac db}$. But 'homework' is not supposed to be answered fully here as my last comment has pointed out.
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            Suppose $a not = 0$ , let $p=frac{b}{a},q=frac{c}{a},r=frac{d}{a}$, then the equation is $$x^3+px^2+qx+r=0$$
            Using Vieta's Formulas,$$alpha + beta + gamma=-p \ alpha beta + beta gamma + alpha gamma =q \ alpha beta gamma = -r$$Suppose $beta^2=alpha gamma$, we get $$q^3=p^3r$$that is $$left { begin{array}{l} ac^3=b^3d \ a not = 0 \ d not = 0 end{array} right.$$
            Now we prove it is sufficient.
            $$q^3-p^3r \ =(alpha beta + beta gamma + alpha gamma)^3-alpha beta gamma(alpha + beta + gamma) \ = alpha^3beta^3+alpha^3gamma^3+beta^3gamma^3-alpha beta gamma(alpha^3+beta^3+gamma^3) \ = (alpha^2-beta gamma)(beta^2-alpha gamma)(gamma^2-alpha beta) \=0$$
            So the roots are in geometric progression.






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              The monic polynomial with roots $beta/r,beta, rbeta$ is
              $$ x^3-betaleft(1+r+frac1rright) x^2+beta^2left(1+r+frac1rright)x-beta^3$$
              We find $beta=-frac cb$ and $beta^3=-frac da$, hence
              $$db^3=ac^3$$
              as necessary condition. Why is it also sufficient? What additional condition(s) would we need if we wanted the roots to be real?






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                The monic polynomial with roots $beta/r,beta, rbeta$ is
                $$ x^3-betaleft(1+r+frac1rright) x^2+beta^2left(1+r+frac1rright)x-beta^3$$
                We find $beta=-frac cb$ and $beta^3=-frac da$, hence
                $$db^3=ac^3$$
                as necessary condition. Why is it also sufficient? What additional condition(s) would we need if we wanted the roots to be real?






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                  The monic polynomial with roots $beta/r,beta, rbeta$ is
                  $$ x^3-betaleft(1+r+frac1rright) x^2+beta^2left(1+r+frac1rright)x-beta^3$$
                  We find $beta=-frac cb$ and $beta^3=-frac da$, hence
                  $$db^3=ac^3$$
                  as necessary condition. Why is it also sufficient? What additional condition(s) would we need if we wanted the roots to be real?






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                  The monic polynomial with roots $beta/r,beta, rbeta$ is
                  $$ x^3-betaleft(1+r+frac1rright) x^2+beta^2left(1+r+frac1rright)x-beta^3$$
                  We find $beta=-frac cb$ and $beta^3=-frac da$, hence
                  $$db^3=ac^3$$
                  as necessary condition. Why is it also sufficient? What additional condition(s) would we need if we wanted the roots to be real?







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                      If $alpha, beta, gamma$ are the roots of $ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0$



                      Using Vieta's Formulas, $$alpha+beta+gamma=-frac ba, alphabeta+betagamma+gammaalpha=frac ca,alphabetagamma=-frac da$$



                      If $alpha,beta,gamma$ are in Geometric Progression, $fracbetaalpha=fracgammabeta$ is constant $=r$(say).
                      Clearly, $alpha rne 0$



                      $implies beta=alpha r, gamma=beta r=alpha r^2$



                      $$implies alpha+alpha r+alpha r^2=-frac baimplies alpha(1+r+r^2)=-frac ba$$



                      $$alphaalpha r+alpha ralpha r^2+alpha r^2alpha=frac caimplies alpha^2 r(1+r+r^2)=frac ca$$



                      $$alphaalpha ralpha r^2=-frac daimplies alpha^3 r^3=-frac da$$



                      So, $$frac{alpha^2 r(1+r+r^2)}{alpha(1+r+r^2)}=frac{frac ca}{-frac ba}implies alpha r=-frac cb text{ if }1+r+r^2ne0$$



                      Then, $$left(-frac cbright)^3=-frac daimplies b^3d=c^3a$$



                      If $1+r+r^2=0,$



                      $b=c=0$
                      and $r=frac{-1pmsqrt3}2$ i.e., r is a complex cube root of $1$



                      So, the equation reduces to $ax^3+d=0$ whose roots are $left(-frac daright)^frac13,left(-frac daright)^frac13r, left(-frac daright)^frac13r^2$.



                      So, we don't find any relationship among $a,b,c$ and $d$ here.





                      In the 2nd case, let us find the equation whose roots are $alpha+beta,beta+gamma, gamma+alpha$ using the Transformation of Equations.



                      If $y=alpha+beta=alpha+beta+gamma-gamma=-frac ba-gammaimplies gamma=-left(y+frac baright)$



                      As $gamma$ is a root of the given equation, $-aleft(y+frac baright)^3+bleft(y+frac baright)^2-cleft(y+frac baright)+d=0$



                      On simplification, $$ay^3+(cdots)y^2+(cdots)y^2+frac{bc-ad}a=0$$ whose roots are $alpha+beta,beta+gamma, gamma+alpha$



                      Using Vieta's Formulas again, $(alpha+beta)(beta+gamma)(gamma+alpha)=frac{ad-bc}{a^2}$



                      If among $alpha,beta,gamma$ two have same absolute value but opposite sign, $(alpha+beta)(beta+gamma)(gamma+alpha)=0implies ad=bc$ (the condition is necessary)



                      Sufficiency: Again, if $ad=bc,$ $frac ab=frac cd=t$(say,) so $a=bt,c=dt$



                      Then the equation becomes $$btx^3+bx^2+dtx+d=0implies bx^2(tx+1)+d(tx+1)=0$$



                      So, $$(tx+1)(bx^2+d)=0$$ One root is $-frac1t$ What about the others?






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                        $x=sqrt{-d/b}$ which is not really $1/t$, the thing we need?
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                        @user52187, I left it for you to find the two roots other than $-frac1t=-frac ba=-frac dc$ to prove the proposition as it is after all a 'homework'.
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                        So is what I wrote incorrect?
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                        @user52187, no. You are right when you say $frac1tne pmsqrt{-frac db}$. But 'homework' is not supposed to be answered fully here as my last comment has pointed out.
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                        – lab bhattacharjee
                        Feb 4 '13 at 3:29


















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                      If $alpha, beta, gamma$ are the roots of $ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0$



                      Using Vieta's Formulas, $$alpha+beta+gamma=-frac ba, alphabeta+betagamma+gammaalpha=frac ca,alphabetagamma=-frac da$$



                      If $alpha,beta,gamma$ are in Geometric Progression, $fracbetaalpha=fracgammabeta$ is constant $=r$(say).
                      Clearly, $alpha rne 0$



                      $implies beta=alpha r, gamma=beta r=alpha r^2$



                      $$implies alpha+alpha r+alpha r^2=-frac baimplies alpha(1+r+r^2)=-frac ba$$



                      $$alphaalpha r+alpha ralpha r^2+alpha r^2alpha=frac caimplies alpha^2 r(1+r+r^2)=frac ca$$



                      $$alphaalpha ralpha r^2=-frac daimplies alpha^3 r^3=-frac da$$



                      So, $$frac{alpha^2 r(1+r+r^2)}{alpha(1+r+r^2)}=frac{frac ca}{-frac ba}implies alpha r=-frac cb text{ if }1+r+r^2ne0$$



                      Then, $$left(-frac cbright)^3=-frac daimplies b^3d=c^3a$$



                      If $1+r+r^2=0,$



                      $b=c=0$
                      and $r=frac{-1pmsqrt3}2$ i.e., r is a complex cube root of $1$



                      So, the equation reduces to $ax^3+d=0$ whose roots are $left(-frac daright)^frac13,left(-frac daright)^frac13r, left(-frac daright)^frac13r^2$.



                      So, we don't find any relationship among $a,b,c$ and $d$ here.





                      In the 2nd case, let us find the equation whose roots are $alpha+beta,beta+gamma, gamma+alpha$ using the Transformation of Equations.



                      If $y=alpha+beta=alpha+beta+gamma-gamma=-frac ba-gammaimplies gamma=-left(y+frac baright)$



                      As $gamma$ is a root of the given equation, $-aleft(y+frac baright)^3+bleft(y+frac baright)^2-cleft(y+frac baright)+d=0$



                      On simplification, $$ay^3+(cdots)y^2+(cdots)y^2+frac{bc-ad}a=0$$ whose roots are $alpha+beta,beta+gamma, gamma+alpha$



                      Using Vieta's Formulas again, $(alpha+beta)(beta+gamma)(gamma+alpha)=frac{ad-bc}{a^2}$



                      If among $alpha,beta,gamma$ two have same absolute value but opposite sign, $(alpha+beta)(beta+gamma)(gamma+alpha)=0implies ad=bc$ (the condition is necessary)



                      Sufficiency: Again, if $ad=bc,$ $frac ab=frac cd=t$(say,) so $a=bt,c=dt$



                      Then the equation becomes $$btx^3+bx^2+dtx+d=0implies bx^2(tx+1)+d(tx+1)=0$$



                      So, $$(tx+1)(bx^2+d)=0$$ One root is $-frac1t$ What about the others?






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                        $x=sqrt{-d/b}$ which is not really $1/t$, the thing we need?
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                        – bbr4in
                        Feb 1 '13 at 21:59










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                        @user52187, I left it for you to find the two roots other than $-frac1t=-frac ba=-frac dc$ to prove the proposition as it is after all a 'homework'.
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                        – lab bhattacharjee
                        Feb 2 '13 at 3:27










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                        So is what I wrote incorrect?
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                        – bbr4in
                        Feb 3 '13 at 22:09










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                        @user52187, no. You are right when you say $frac1tne pmsqrt{-frac db}$. But 'homework' is not supposed to be answered fully here as my last comment has pointed out.
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                        – lab bhattacharjee
                        Feb 4 '13 at 3:29
















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                      If $alpha, beta, gamma$ are the roots of $ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0$



                      Using Vieta's Formulas, $$alpha+beta+gamma=-frac ba, alphabeta+betagamma+gammaalpha=frac ca,alphabetagamma=-frac da$$



                      If $alpha,beta,gamma$ are in Geometric Progression, $fracbetaalpha=fracgammabeta$ is constant $=r$(say).
                      Clearly, $alpha rne 0$



                      $implies beta=alpha r, gamma=beta r=alpha r^2$



                      $$implies alpha+alpha r+alpha r^2=-frac baimplies alpha(1+r+r^2)=-frac ba$$



                      $$alphaalpha r+alpha ralpha r^2+alpha r^2alpha=frac caimplies alpha^2 r(1+r+r^2)=frac ca$$



                      $$alphaalpha ralpha r^2=-frac daimplies alpha^3 r^3=-frac da$$



                      So, $$frac{alpha^2 r(1+r+r^2)}{alpha(1+r+r^2)}=frac{frac ca}{-frac ba}implies alpha r=-frac cb text{ if }1+r+r^2ne0$$



                      Then, $$left(-frac cbright)^3=-frac daimplies b^3d=c^3a$$



                      If $1+r+r^2=0,$



                      $b=c=0$
                      and $r=frac{-1pmsqrt3}2$ i.e., r is a complex cube root of $1$



                      So, the equation reduces to $ax^3+d=0$ whose roots are $left(-frac daright)^frac13,left(-frac daright)^frac13r, left(-frac daright)^frac13r^2$.



                      So, we don't find any relationship among $a,b,c$ and $d$ here.





                      In the 2nd case, let us find the equation whose roots are $alpha+beta,beta+gamma, gamma+alpha$ using the Transformation of Equations.



                      If $y=alpha+beta=alpha+beta+gamma-gamma=-frac ba-gammaimplies gamma=-left(y+frac baright)$



                      As $gamma$ is a root of the given equation, $-aleft(y+frac baright)^3+bleft(y+frac baright)^2-cleft(y+frac baright)+d=0$



                      On simplification, $$ay^3+(cdots)y^2+(cdots)y^2+frac{bc-ad}a=0$$ whose roots are $alpha+beta,beta+gamma, gamma+alpha$



                      Using Vieta's Formulas again, $(alpha+beta)(beta+gamma)(gamma+alpha)=frac{ad-bc}{a^2}$



                      If among $alpha,beta,gamma$ two have same absolute value but opposite sign, $(alpha+beta)(beta+gamma)(gamma+alpha)=0implies ad=bc$ (the condition is necessary)



                      Sufficiency: Again, if $ad=bc,$ $frac ab=frac cd=t$(say,) so $a=bt,c=dt$



                      Then the equation becomes $$btx^3+bx^2+dtx+d=0implies bx^2(tx+1)+d(tx+1)=0$$



                      So, $$(tx+1)(bx^2+d)=0$$ One root is $-frac1t$ What about the others?






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                      If $alpha, beta, gamma$ are the roots of $ax^3+bx^2+cx+d=0$



                      Using Vieta's Formulas, $$alpha+beta+gamma=-frac ba, alphabeta+betagamma+gammaalpha=frac ca,alphabetagamma=-frac da$$



                      If $alpha,beta,gamma$ are in Geometric Progression, $fracbetaalpha=fracgammabeta$ is constant $=r$(say).
                      Clearly, $alpha rne 0$



                      $implies beta=alpha r, gamma=beta r=alpha r^2$



                      $$implies alpha+alpha r+alpha r^2=-frac baimplies alpha(1+r+r^2)=-frac ba$$



                      $$alphaalpha r+alpha ralpha r^2+alpha r^2alpha=frac caimplies alpha^2 r(1+r+r^2)=frac ca$$



                      $$alphaalpha ralpha r^2=-frac daimplies alpha^3 r^3=-frac da$$



                      So, $$frac{alpha^2 r(1+r+r^2)}{alpha(1+r+r^2)}=frac{frac ca}{-frac ba}implies alpha r=-frac cb text{ if }1+r+r^2ne0$$



                      Then, $$left(-frac cbright)^3=-frac daimplies b^3d=c^3a$$



                      If $1+r+r^2=0,$



                      $b=c=0$
                      and $r=frac{-1pmsqrt3}2$ i.e., r is a complex cube root of $1$



                      So, the equation reduces to $ax^3+d=0$ whose roots are $left(-frac daright)^frac13,left(-frac daright)^frac13r, left(-frac daright)^frac13r^2$.



                      So, we don't find any relationship among $a,b,c$ and $d$ here.





                      In the 2nd case, let us find the equation whose roots are $alpha+beta,beta+gamma, gamma+alpha$ using the Transformation of Equations.



                      If $y=alpha+beta=alpha+beta+gamma-gamma=-frac ba-gammaimplies gamma=-left(y+frac baright)$



                      As $gamma$ is a root of the given equation, $-aleft(y+frac baright)^3+bleft(y+frac baright)^2-cleft(y+frac baright)+d=0$



                      On simplification, $$ay^3+(cdots)y^2+(cdots)y^2+frac{bc-ad}a=0$$ whose roots are $alpha+beta,beta+gamma, gamma+alpha$



                      Using Vieta's Formulas again, $(alpha+beta)(beta+gamma)(gamma+alpha)=frac{ad-bc}{a^2}$



                      If among $alpha,beta,gamma$ two have same absolute value but opposite sign, $(alpha+beta)(beta+gamma)(gamma+alpha)=0implies ad=bc$ (the condition is necessary)



                      Sufficiency: Again, if $ad=bc,$ $frac ab=frac cd=t$(say,) so $a=bt,c=dt$



                      Then the equation becomes $$btx^3+bx^2+dtx+d=0implies bx^2(tx+1)+d(tx+1)=0$$



                      So, $$(tx+1)(bx^2+d)=0$$ One root is $-frac1t$ What about the others?







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                        $x=sqrt{-d/b}$ which is not really $1/t$, the thing we need?
                        $endgroup$
                        – bbr4in
                        Feb 1 '13 at 21:59










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                        @user52187, I left it for you to find the two roots other than $-frac1t=-frac ba=-frac dc$ to prove the proposition as it is after all a 'homework'.
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                        – lab bhattacharjee
                        Feb 2 '13 at 3:27










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                        So is what I wrote incorrect?
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                        – bbr4in
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                        @user52187, no. You are right when you say $frac1tne pmsqrt{-frac db}$. But 'homework' is not supposed to be answered fully here as my last comment has pointed out.
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                        – lab bhattacharjee
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                        $x=sqrt{-d/b}$ which is not really $1/t$, the thing we need?
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                        – bbr4in
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                        @user52187, I left it for you to find the two roots other than $-frac1t=-frac ba=-frac dc$ to prove the proposition as it is after all a 'homework'.
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                        – lab bhattacharjee
                        Feb 2 '13 at 3:27










                      • $begingroup$
                        So is what I wrote incorrect?
                        $endgroup$
                        – bbr4in
                        Feb 3 '13 at 22:09










                      • $begingroup$
                        @user52187, no. You are right when you say $frac1tne pmsqrt{-frac db}$. But 'homework' is not supposed to be answered fully here as my last comment has pointed out.
                        $endgroup$
                        – lab bhattacharjee
                        Feb 4 '13 at 3:29


















                      $begingroup$
                      $x=sqrt{-d/b}$ which is not really $1/t$, the thing we need?
                      $endgroup$
                      – bbr4in
                      Feb 1 '13 at 21:59




                      $begingroup$
                      $x=sqrt{-d/b}$ which is not really $1/t$, the thing we need?
                      $endgroup$
                      – bbr4in
                      Feb 1 '13 at 21:59












                      $begingroup$
                      @user52187, I left it for you to find the two roots other than $-frac1t=-frac ba=-frac dc$ to prove the proposition as it is after all a 'homework'.
                      $endgroup$
                      – lab bhattacharjee
                      Feb 2 '13 at 3:27




                      $begingroup$
                      @user52187, I left it for you to find the two roots other than $-frac1t=-frac ba=-frac dc$ to prove the proposition as it is after all a 'homework'.
                      $endgroup$
                      – lab bhattacharjee
                      Feb 2 '13 at 3:27












                      $begingroup$
                      So is what I wrote incorrect?
                      $endgroup$
                      – bbr4in
                      Feb 3 '13 at 22:09




                      $begingroup$
                      So is what I wrote incorrect?
                      $endgroup$
                      – bbr4in
                      Feb 3 '13 at 22:09












                      $begingroup$
                      @user52187, no. You are right when you say $frac1tne pmsqrt{-frac db}$. But 'homework' is not supposed to be answered fully here as my last comment has pointed out.
                      $endgroup$
                      – lab bhattacharjee
                      Feb 4 '13 at 3:29






                      $begingroup$
                      @user52187, no. You are right when you say $frac1tne pmsqrt{-frac db}$. But 'homework' is not supposed to be answered fully here as my last comment has pointed out.
                      $endgroup$
                      – lab bhattacharjee
                      Feb 4 '13 at 3:29













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                      Suppose $a not = 0$ , let $p=frac{b}{a},q=frac{c}{a},r=frac{d}{a}$, then the equation is $$x^3+px^2+qx+r=0$$
                      Using Vieta's Formulas,$$alpha + beta + gamma=-p \ alpha beta + beta gamma + alpha gamma =q \ alpha beta gamma = -r$$Suppose $beta^2=alpha gamma$, we get $$q^3=p^3r$$that is $$left { begin{array}{l} ac^3=b^3d \ a not = 0 \ d not = 0 end{array} right.$$
                      Now we prove it is sufficient.
                      $$q^3-p^3r \ =(alpha beta + beta gamma + alpha gamma)^3-alpha beta gamma(alpha + beta + gamma) \ = alpha^3beta^3+alpha^3gamma^3+beta^3gamma^3-alpha beta gamma(alpha^3+beta^3+gamma^3) \ = (alpha^2-beta gamma)(beta^2-alpha gamma)(gamma^2-alpha beta) \=0$$
                      So the roots are in geometric progression.






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                        Suppose $a not = 0$ , let $p=frac{b}{a},q=frac{c}{a},r=frac{d}{a}$, then the equation is $$x^3+px^2+qx+r=0$$
                        Using Vieta's Formulas,$$alpha + beta + gamma=-p \ alpha beta + beta gamma + alpha gamma =q \ alpha beta gamma = -r$$Suppose $beta^2=alpha gamma$, we get $$q^3=p^3r$$that is $$left { begin{array}{l} ac^3=b^3d \ a not = 0 \ d not = 0 end{array} right.$$
                        Now we prove it is sufficient.
                        $$q^3-p^3r \ =(alpha beta + beta gamma + alpha gamma)^3-alpha beta gamma(alpha + beta + gamma) \ = alpha^3beta^3+alpha^3gamma^3+beta^3gamma^3-alpha beta gamma(alpha^3+beta^3+gamma^3) \ = (alpha^2-beta gamma)(beta^2-alpha gamma)(gamma^2-alpha beta) \=0$$
                        So the roots are in geometric progression.






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                          Suppose $a not = 0$ , let $p=frac{b}{a},q=frac{c}{a},r=frac{d}{a}$, then the equation is $$x^3+px^2+qx+r=0$$
                          Using Vieta's Formulas,$$alpha + beta + gamma=-p \ alpha beta + beta gamma + alpha gamma =q \ alpha beta gamma = -r$$Suppose $beta^2=alpha gamma$, we get $$q^3=p^3r$$that is $$left { begin{array}{l} ac^3=b^3d \ a not = 0 \ d not = 0 end{array} right.$$
                          Now we prove it is sufficient.
                          $$q^3-p^3r \ =(alpha beta + beta gamma + alpha gamma)^3-alpha beta gamma(alpha + beta + gamma) \ = alpha^3beta^3+alpha^3gamma^3+beta^3gamma^3-alpha beta gamma(alpha^3+beta^3+gamma^3) \ = (alpha^2-beta gamma)(beta^2-alpha gamma)(gamma^2-alpha beta) \=0$$
                          So the roots are in geometric progression.






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                          Suppose $a not = 0$ , let $p=frac{b}{a},q=frac{c}{a},r=frac{d}{a}$, then the equation is $$x^3+px^2+qx+r=0$$
                          Using Vieta's Formulas,$$alpha + beta + gamma=-p \ alpha beta + beta gamma + alpha gamma =q \ alpha beta gamma = -r$$Suppose $beta^2=alpha gamma$, we get $$q^3=p^3r$$that is $$left { begin{array}{l} ac^3=b^3d \ a not = 0 \ d not = 0 end{array} right.$$
                          Now we prove it is sufficient.
                          $$q^3-p^3r \ =(alpha beta + beta gamma + alpha gamma)^3-alpha beta gamma(alpha + beta + gamma) \ = alpha^3beta^3+alpha^3gamma^3+beta^3gamma^3-alpha beta gamma(alpha^3+beta^3+gamma^3) \ = (alpha^2-beta gamma)(beta^2-alpha gamma)(gamma^2-alpha beta) \=0$$
                          So the roots are in geometric progression.







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