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Denote by $lambda$ the standard Lebesgue measure.



Let $E$ be a Lebesgue-measurable subset of $mathbb{R}$ with $lambda(E)<infty$.



By an initial segment of $E$ we mean a set $E'subseteq E$ satisfying $E'<Esetminus E'$ (in the sense that $x<y$ for all $xin E'$ and $yin Esetminus E'$). Note that initial segments of $E$ must always have the form $Ecap(-infty,y)$ or $Ecap(-infty,y]$ for some $yin[-infty,infty]$.



It can be shown that for each $tin[0,lambda(E)]$, there exists an initial segment $E_t$ of $E$ with $lambda(E_t)=t$.



Let us define the function $m:Eto[0,lambda(E)]$ by the rule
$$m(x)=inf{tin[0,lambda(E)]:xin E_t}.$$



Conjecture 1. The image $m(E)$ is a Lebesgue-measurable set.



Discussion.



(i) Clearly, $m$ is order-preserving (i.e., nondecreasing) in the sense that $xleq y$ if and only if $m(x)leq m(y)$.



(ii) It can be shown that $m$ is measure-preserving in the following sense: If $Asubseteq[0,lambda(E)]$ is Lebesgue-measurable then $m^{-1}(A)$ is also Lebesgue-measurable with $lambda(A)=lambda[m^{-1}(A)]$.



(iii) If $Fsubseteq E$ and $m(F)$ is measurable then $lambda[m(F)]=lambda(F)$.



(iv) There are definite counter-examples showing that $m$ need not be surjective. In fact, $[0,lambda(E)]setminus m(E)$ may even be uncountable.



Sorry to keep asking so many similar questions. I keep running into these technical, seemingly obvious facts which are resistant to a simple proof (that I can find, anyway).










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  • It seems from that definition that $E$ and $emptyset$ are initial segments of $E$, but they are not necessarily of the form $Ecap(-infty,y)$ or $Ecap(-infty,y]$ for some $yinmathbb R$.
    – bof
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:09










  • How is $E_t$ defined if $E$ has more than one initial segment of measure $t$?
    – bof
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:10










  • @bof Oops! I meant for $yin[-infty,infty]$. Fixed. As for $E_t$, it is not necessarily unique. But its existence is secured by applying the intermediate value theorem to the function $f:[-infty,infty]to[0,lambda(E)]$ defined by the rule $f(s)=lambda{xin E:xleq s}$.
    – Ben W
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:14










  • I don't understand $E'subseteq E$ satisfying $E'<Esetminus E'$.
    – zhw.
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:37










  • @zhw I added a definition in the OP. It just means $x<y$ for all $xin E'$ and $yin Esetminus E'$.
    – Ben W
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:39
















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Denote by $lambda$ the standard Lebesgue measure.



Let $E$ be a Lebesgue-measurable subset of $mathbb{R}$ with $lambda(E)<infty$.



By an initial segment of $E$ we mean a set $E'subseteq E$ satisfying $E'<Esetminus E'$ (in the sense that $x<y$ for all $xin E'$ and $yin Esetminus E'$). Note that initial segments of $E$ must always have the form $Ecap(-infty,y)$ or $Ecap(-infty,y]$ for some $yin[-infty,infty]$.



It can be shown that for each $tin[0,lambda(E)]$, there exists an initial segment $E_t$ of $E$ with $lambda(E_t)=t$.



Let us define the function $m:Eto[0,lambda(E)]$ by the rule
$$m(x)=inf{tin[0,lambda(E)]:xin E_t}.$$



Conjecture 1. The image $m(E)$ is a Lebesgue-measurable set.



Discussion.



(i) Clearly, $m$ is order-preserving (i.e., nondecreasing) in the sense that $xleq y$ if and only if $m(x)leq m(y)$.



(ii) It can be shown that $m$ is measure-preserving in the following sense: If $Asubseteq[0,lambda(E)]$ is Lebesgue-measurable then $m^{-1}(A)$ is also Lebesgue-measurable with $lambda(A)=lambda[m^{-1}(A)]$.



(iii) If $Fsubseteq E$ and $m(F)$ is measurable then $lambda[m(F)]=lambda(F)$.



(iv) There are definite counter-examples showing that $m$ need not be surjective. In fact, $[0,lambda(E)]setminus m(E)$ may even be uncountable.



Sorry to keep asking so many similar questions. I keep running into these technical, seemingly obvious facts which are resistant to a simple proof (that I can find, anyway).










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  • It seems from that definition that $E$ and $emptyset$ are initial segments of $E$, but they are not necessarily of the form $Ecap(-infty,y)$ or $Ecap(-infty,y]$ for some $yinmathbb R$.
    – bof
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:09










  • How is $E_t$ defined if $E$ has more than one initial segment of measure $t$?
    – bof
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:10










  • @bof Oops! I meant for $yin[-infty,infty]$. Fixed. As for $E_t$, it is not necessarily unique. But its existence is secured by applying the intermediate value theorem to the function $f:[-infty,infty]to[0,lambda(E)]$ defined by the rule $f(s)=lambda{xin E:xleq s}$.
    – Ben W
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:14










  • I don't understand $E'subseteq E$ satisfying $E'<Esetminus E'$.
    – zhw.
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:37










  • @zhw I added a definition in the OP. It just means $x<y$ for all $xin E'$ and $yin Esetminus E'$.
    – Ben W
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:39














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Denote by $lambda$ the standard Lebesgue measure.



Let $E$ be a Lebesgue-measurable subset of $mathbb{R}$ with $lambda(E)<infty$.



By an initial segment of $E$ we mean a set $E'subseteq E$ satisfying $E'<Esetminus E'$ (in the sense that $x<y$ for all $xin E'$ and $yin Esetminus E'$). Note that initial segments of $E$ must always have the form $Ecap(-infty,y)$ or $Ecap(-infty,y]$ for some $yin[-infty,infty]$.



It can be shown that for each $tin[0,lambda(E)]$, there exists an initial segment $E_t$ of $E$ with $lambda(E_t)=t$.



Let us define the function $m:Eto[0,lambda(E)]$ by the rule
$$m(x)=inf{tin[0,lambda(E)]:xin E_t}.$$



Conjecture 1. The image $m(E)$ is a Lebesgue-measurable set.



Discussion.



(i) Clearly, $m$ is order-preserving (i.e., nondecreasing) in the sense that $xleq y$ if and only if $m(x)leq m(y)$.



(ii) It can be shown that $m$ is measure-preserving in the following sense: If $Asubseteq[0,lambda(E)]$ is Lebesgue-measurable then $m^{-1}(A)$ is also Lebesgue-measurable with $lambda(A)=lambda[m^{-1}(A)]$.



(iii) If $Fsubseteq E$ and $m(F)$ is measurable then $lambda[m(F)]=lambda(F)$.



(iv) There are definite counter-examples showing that $m$ need not be surjective. In fact, $[0,lambda(E)]setminus m(E)$ may even be uncountable.



Sorry to keep asking so many similar questions. I keep running into these technical, seemingly obvious facts which are resistant to a simple proof (that I can find, anyway).










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Denote by $lambda$ the standard Lebesgue measure.



Let $E$ be a Lebesgue-measurable subset of $mathbb{R}$ with $lambda(E)<infty$.



By an initial segment of $E$ we mean a set $E'subseteq E$ satisfying $E'<Esetminus E'$ (in the sense that $x<y$ for all $xin E'$ and $yin Esetminus E'$). Note that initial segments of $E$ must always have the form $Ecap(-infty,y)$ or $Ecap(-infty,y]$ for some $yin[-infty,infty]$.



It can be shown that for each $tin[0,lambda(E)]$, there exists an initial segment $E_t$ of $E$ with $lambda(E_t)=t$.



Let us define the function $m:Eto[0,lambda(E)]$ by the rule
$$m(x)=inf{tin[0,lambda(E)]:xin E_t}.$$



Conjecture 1. The image $m(E)$ is a Lebesgue-measurable set.



Discussion.



(i) Clearly, $m$ is order-preserving (i.e., nondecreasing) in the sense that $xleq y$ if and only if $m(x)leq m(y)$.



(ii) It can be shown that $m$ is measure-preserving in the following sense: If $Asubseteq[0,lambda(E)]$ is Lebesgue-measurable then $m^{-1}(A)$ is also Lebesgue-measurable with $lambda(A)=lambda[m^{-1}(A)]$.



(iii) If $Fsubseteq E$ and $m(F)$ is measurable then $lambda[m(F)]=lambda(F)$.



(iv) There are definite counter-examples showing that $m$ need not be surjective. In fact, $[0,lambda(E)]setminus m(E)$ may even be uncountable.



Sorry to keep asking so many similar questions. I keep running into these technical, seemingly obvious facts which are resistant to a simple proof (that I can find, anyway).







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  • It seems from that definition that $E$ and $emptyset$ are initial segments of $E$, but they are not necessarily of the form $Ecap(-infty,y)$ or $Ecap(-infty,y]$ for some $yinmathbb R$.
    – bof
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:09










  • How is $E_t$ defined if $E$ has more than one initial segment of measure $t$?
    – bof
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:10










  • @bof Oops! I meant for $yin[-infty,infty]$. Fixed. As for $E_t$, it is not necessarily unique. But its existence is secured by applying the intermediate value theorem to the function $f:[-infty,infty]to[0,lambda(E)]$ defined by the rule $f(s)=lambda{xin E:xleq s}$.
    – Ben W
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:14










  • I don't understand $E'subseteq E$ satisfying $E'<Esetminus E'$.
    – zhw.
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:37










  • @zhw I added a definition in the OP. It just means $x<y$ for all $xin E'$ and $yin Esetminus E'$.
    – Ben W
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:39


















  • It seems from that definition that $E$ and $emptyset$ are initial segments of $E$, but they are not necessarily of the form $Ecap(-infty,y)$ or $Ecap(-infty,y]$ for some $yinmathbb R$.
    – bof
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:09










  • How is $E_t$ defined if $E$ has more than one initial segment of measure $t$?
    – bof
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:10










  • @bof Oops! I meant for $yin[-infty,infty]$. Fixed. As for $E_t$, it is not necessarily unique. But its existence is secured by applying the intermediate value theorem to the function $f:[-infty,infty]to[0,lambda(E)]$ defined by the rule $f(s)=lambda{xin E:xleq s}$.
    – Ben W
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:14










  • I don't understand $E'subseteq E$ satisfying $E'<Esetminus E'$.
    – zhw.
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:37










  • @zhw I added a definition in the OP. It just means $x<y$ for all $xin E'$ and $yin Esetminus E'$.
    – Ben W
    Dec 28 '18 at 18:39
















It seems from that definition that $E$ and $emptyset$ are initial segments of $E$, but they are not necessarily of the form $Ecap(-infty,y)$ or $Ecap(-infty,y]$ for some $yinmathbb R$.
– bof
Dec 28 '18 at 18:09




It seems from that definition that $E$ and $emptyset$ are initial segments of $E$, but they are not necessarily of the form $Ecap(-infty,y)$ or $Ecap(-infty,y]$ for some $yinmathbb R$.
– bof
Dec 28 '18 at 18:09












How is $E_t$ defined if $E$ has more than one initial segment of measure $t$?
– bof
Dec 28 '18 at 18:10




How is $E_t$ defined if $E$ has more than one initial segment of measure $t$?
– bof
Dec 28 '18 at 18:10












@bof Oops! I meant for $yin[-infty,infty]$. Fixed. As for $E_t$, it is not necessarily unique. But its existence is secured by applying the intermediate value theorem to the function $f:[-infty,infty]to[0,lambda(E)]$ defined by the rule $f(s)=lambda{xin E:xleq s}$.
– Ben W
Dec 28 '18 at 18:14




@bof Oops! I meant for $yin[-infty,infty]$. Fixed. As for $E_t$, it is not necessarily unique. But its existence is secured by applying the intermediate value theorem to the function $f:[-infty,infty]to[0,lambda(E)]$ defined by the rule $f(s)=lambda{xin E:xleq s}$.
– Ben W
Dec 28 '18 at 18:14












I don't understand $E'subseteq E$ satisfying $E'<Esetminus E'$.
– zhw.
Dec 28 '18 at 18:37




I don't understand $E'subseteq E$ satisfying $E'<Esetminus E'$.
– zhw.
Dec 28 '18 at 18:37












@zhw I added a definition in the OP. It just means $x<y$ for all $xin E'$ and $yin Esetminus E'$.
– Ben W
Dec 28 '18 at 18:39




@zhw I added a definition in the OP. It just means $x<y$ for all $xin E'$ and $yin Esetminus E'$.
– Ben W
Dec 28 '18 at 18:39










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We can prove that, for any $x in E$, $m(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$. Proof:
For any $x in E$ and any initial segment $E_t$ such that $x in E_t$, we have that $(-infty,x] cap E subseteq E_t$. Since $(-infty,x] cap E$ is an initial segment, it follows that $m(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$.



Now, define for all $x in mathbb{R}$, $M(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$. It is clear that $M$ extends $m$ and that $M(E)=m(E)$. So we must prove that $M(E)$ is Lebesgue measurable.



Note that, given any $x, y in mathbb{R}$, suppose without loss of generality that $ygeqslant x$, so we have:
$$ |M(y)-M(x)| = M(y)-M(x) = lambda((x,y] cap E))leqslant y-x=|y-x|$$



So $M$ is a Lipschitz function. So the image by $M$ of any Lebesgue measurable set is Lebesgue measurable. So $M(E)$ is Lebesgue measurable.



In more detail:
Since Lebesgue measure is inner regular, there exist a set $N$ of measure zero and a sequence of compact sets ${K_n}_{nge 1}$, such that
$$E=Ncup(cup_{n=1}^infty K_n)$$ Since Lebesgue measure is outer regular and $M$ is a Lipschitz function, $M(N)$ has measure zero. Since $M$ is continuous, $M(K_n)$ is compact for every $nge 1$. Therefore,
$$M(E)=M(N)cupbig(cup_{n=1}^infty M(K_n)big)$$
is Lebesgue measurable.






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  • @BenW Thanks. My full name is Ramiro Affonso de Tadeu Guerreiro. Please, let me know when you read this comment.
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  • Thanks! I'll let you know when I get it on the arxiv.
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We can prove that, for any $x in E$, $m(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$. Proof:
For any $x in E$ and any initial segment $E_t$ such that $x in E_t$, we have that $(-infty,x] cap E subseteq E_t$. Since $(-infty,x] cap E$ is an initial segment, it follows that $m(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$.



Now, define for all $x in mathbb{R}$, $M(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$. It is clear that $M$ extends $m$ and that $M(E)=m(E)$. So we must prove that $M(E)$ is Lebesgue measurable.



Note that, given any $x, y in mathbb{R}$, suppose without loss of generality that $ygeqslant x$, so we have:
$$ |M(y)-M(x)| = M(y)-M(x) = lambda((x,y] cap E))leqslant y-x=|y-x|$$



So $M$ is a Lipschitz function. So the image by $M$ of any Lebesgue measurable set is Lebesgue measurable. So $M(E)$ is Lebesgue measurable.



In more detail:
Since Lebesgue measure is inner regular, there exist a set $N$ of measure zero and a sequence of compact sets ${K_n}_{nge 1}$, such that
$$E=Ncup(cup_{n=1}^infty K_n)$$ Since Lebesgue measure is outer regular and $M$ is a Lipschitz function, $M(N)$ has measure zero. Since $M$ is continuous, $M(K_n)$ is compact for every $nge 1$. Therefore,
$$M(E)=M(N)cupbig(cup_{n=1}^infty M(K_n)big)$$
is Lebesgue measurable.






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  • It says I can't award the bounty for another 10 hours. Also, I would like to credit you in the paper I am writing. Do you have a full name?
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  • @BenW Thanks. My full name is Ramiro Affonso de Tadeu Guerreiro. Please, let me know when you read this comment.
    – Ramiro
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  • Thanks! I'll let you know when I get it on the arxiv.
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We can prove that, for any $x in E$, $m(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$. Proof:
For any $x in E$ and any initial segment $E_t$ such that $x in E_t$, we have that $(-infty,x] cap E subseteq E_t$. Since $(-infty,x] cap E$ is an initial segment, it follows that $m(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$.



Now, define for all $x in mathbb{R}$, $M(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$. It is clear that $M$ extends $m$ and that $M(E)=m(E)$. So we must prove that $M(E)$ is Lebesgue measurable.



Note that, given any $x, y in mathbb{R}$, suppose without loss of generality that $ygeqslant x$, so we have:
$$ |M(y)-M(x)| = M(y)-M(x) = lambda((x,y] cap E))leqslant y-x=|y-x|$$



So $M$ is a Lipschitz function. So the image by $M$ of any Lebesgue measurable set is Lebesgue measurable. So $M(E)$ is Lebesgue measurable.



In more detail:
Since Lebesgue measure is inner regular, there exist a set $N$ of measure zero and a sequence of compact sets ${K_n}_{nge 1}$, such that
$$E=Ncup(cup_{n=1}^infty K_n)$$ Since Lebesgue measure is outer regular and $M$ is a Lipschitz function, $M(N)$ has measure zero. Since $M$ is continuous, $M(K_n)$ is compact for every $nge 1$. Therefore,
$$M(E)=M(N)cupbig(cup_{n=1}^infty M(K_n)big)$$
is Lebesgue measurable.






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  • It says I can't award the bounty for another 10 hours. Also, I would like to credit you in the paper I am writing. Do you have a full name?
    – Ben W
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  • @BenW Thanks. My full name is Ramiro Affonso de Tadeu Guerreiro. Please, let me know when you read this comment.
    – Ramiro
    2 days ago










  • Thanks! I'll let you know when I get it on the arxiv.
    – Ben W
    2 days ago














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We can prove that, for any $x in E$, $m(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$. Proof:
For any $x in E$ and any initial segment $E_t$ such that $x in E_t$, we have that $(-infty,x] cap E subseteq E_t$. Since $(-infty,x] cap E$ is an initial segment, it follows that $m(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$.



Now, define for all $x in mathbb{R}$, $M(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$. It is clear that $M$ extends $m$ and that $M(E)=m(E)$. So we must prove that $M(E)$ is Lebesgue measurable.



Note that, given any $x, y in mathbb{R}$, suppose without loss of generality that $ygeqslant x$, so we have:
$$ |M(y)-M(x)| = M(y)-M(x) = lambda((x,y] cap E))leqslant y-x=|y-x|$$



So $M$ is a Lipschitz function. So the image by $M$ of any Lebesgue measurable set is Lebesgue measurable. So $M(E)$ is Lebesgue measurable.



In more detail:
Since Lebesgue measure is inner regular, there exist a set $N$ of measure zero and a sequence of compact sets ${K_n}_{nge 1}$, such that
$$E=Ncup(cup_{n=1}^infty K_n)$$ Since Lebesgue measure is outer regular and $M$ is a Lipschitz function, $M(N)$ has measure zero. Since $M$ is continuous, $M(K_n)$ is compact for every $nge 1$. Therefore,
$$M(E)=M(N)cupbig(cup_{n=1}^infty M(K_n)big)$$
is Lebesgue measurable.






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We can prove that, for any $x in E$, $m(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$. Proof:
For any $x in E$ and any initial segment $E_t$ such that $x in E_t$, we have that $(-infty,x] cap E subseteq E_t$. Since $(-infty,x] cap E$ is an initial segment, it follows that $m(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$.



Now, define for all $x in mathbb{R}$, $M(x) = lambda((-infty,x] cap E))$. It is clear that $M$ extends $m$ and that $M(E)=m(E)$. So we must prove that $M(E)$ is Lebesgue measurable.



Note that, given any $x, y in mathbb{R}$, suppose without loss of generality that $ygeqslant x$, so we have:
$$ |M(y)-M(x)| = M(y)-M(x) = lambda((x,y] cap E))leqslant y-x=|y-x|$$



So $M$ is a Lipschitz function. So the image by $M$ of any Lebesgue measurable set is Lebesgue measurable. So $M(E)$ is Lebesgue measurable.



In more detail:
Since Lebesgue measure is inner regular, there exist a set $N$ of measure zero and a sequence of compact sets ${K_n}_{nge 1}$, such that
$$E=Ncup(cup_{n=1}^infty K_n)$$ Since Lebesgue measure is outer regular and $M$ is a Lipschitz function, $M(N)$ has measure zero. Since $M$ is continuous, $M(K_n)$ is compact for every $nge 1$. Therefore,
$$M(E)=M(N)cupbig(cup_{n=1}^infty M(K_n)big)$$
is Lebesgue measurable.







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  • It says I can't award the bounty for another 10 hours. Also, I would like to credit you in the paper I am writing. Do you have a full name?
    – Ben W
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  • @BenW Thanks. My full name is Ramiro Affonso de Tadeu Guerreiro. Please, let me know when you read this comment.
    – Ramiro
    2 days ago










  • Thanks! I'll let you know when I get it on the arxiv.
    – Ben W
    2 days ago


















  • It says I can't award the bounty for another 10 hours. Also, I would like to credit you in the paper I am writing. Do you have a full name?
    – Ben W
    2 days ago












  • @BenW Thanks. My full name is Ramiro Affonso de Tadeu Guerreiro. Please, let me know when you read this comment.
    – Ramiro
    2 days ago










  • Thanks! I'll let you know when I get it on the arxiv.
    – Ben W
    2 days ago
















It says I can't award the bounty for another 10 hours. Also, I would like to credit you in the paper I am writing. Do you have a full name?
– Ben W
2 days ago






It says I can't award the bounty for another 10 hours. Also, I would like to credit you in the paper I am writing. Do you have a full name?
– Ben W
2 days ago














@BenW Thanks. My full name is Ramiro Affonso de Tadeu Guerreiro. Please, let me know when you read this comment.
– Ramiro
2 days ago




@BenW Thanks. My full name is Ramiro Affonso de Tadeu Guerreiro. Please, let me know when you read this comment.
– Ramiro
2 days ago












Thanks! I'll let you know when I get it on the arxiv.
– Ben W
2 days ago




Thanks! I'll let you know when I get it on the arxiv.
– Ben W
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