Maximum number of linearly independent elements in a module












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The rank of an $R$-module is the maximum number of $R$-linearly independent elements in the module.




If $R$ (commutative with identity) is an integral domain and $M$ is a finitely generated $R$-module then $operatorname{rank}(M)=operatorname{rank}(N)+operatorname{rank}(M/N)$, where $N$ is an $R$-submodule of $M$.




If it was given $M/N$ is a free $R$-module then we can write $M$ as a direct sum of $N$ and $M/N$. Here we can only say that $M/N$ is finitely generated as $M$ is finitely generated. How do I go further?










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  • @Student7 submodule need not be finitely generated even when the module is finitely generated
    – user362405
    Dec 29 '18 at 12:38










  • Ah sorry, thought of a noetherian ring.
    – Student7
    Dec 29 '18 at 12:43










  • Reduce the problem to when $R$ is a field, by going to the fraction field.
    – Mohan
    Dec 29 '18 at 14:16










  • @Mohan can you elaborate. I am not well versed with the techniques
    – user362405
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The rank of an $R$-module is the maximum number of $R$-linearly independent elements in the module.




If $R$ (commutative with identity) is an integral domain and $M$ is a finitely generated $R$-module then $operatorname{rank}(M)=operatorname{rank}(N)+operatorname{rank}(M/N)$, where $N$ is an $R$-submodule of $M$.




If it was given $M/N$ is a free $R$-module then we can write $M$ as a direct sum of $N$ and $M/N$. Here we can only say that $M/N$ is finitely generated as $M$ is finitely generated. How do I go further?










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  • @Student7 submodule need not be finitely generated even when the module is finitely generated
    – user362405
    Dec 29 '18 at 12:38










  • Ah sorry, thought of a noetherian ring.
    – Student7
    Dec 29 '18 at 12:43










  • Reduce the problem to when $R$ is a field, by going to the fraction field.
    – Mohan
    Dec 29 '18 at 14:16










  • @Mohan can you elaborate. I am not well versed with the techniques
    – user362405
    Dec 29 '18 at 14:23














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The rank of an $R$-module is the maximum number of $R$-linearly independent elements in the module.




If $R$ (commutative with identity) is an integral domain and $M$ is a finitely generated $R$-module then $operatorname{rank}(M)=operatorname{rank}(N)+operatorname{rank}(M/N)$, where $N$ is an $R$-submodule of $M$.




If it was given $M/N$ is a free $R$-module then we can write $M$ as a direct sum of $N$ and $M/N$. Here we can only say that $M/N$ is finitely generated as $M$ is finitely generated. How do I go further?










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The rank of an $R$-module is the maximum number of $R$-linearly independent elements in the module.




If $R$ (commutative with identity) is an integral domain and $M$ is a finitely generated $R$-module then $operatorname{rank}(M)=operatorname{rank}(N)+operatorname{rank}(M/N)$, where $N$ is an $R$-submodule of $M$.




If it was given $M/N$ is a free $R$-module then we can write $M$ as a direct sum of $N$ and $M/N$. Here we can only say that $M/N$ is finitely generated as $M$ is finitely generated. How do I go further?







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  • @Student7 submodule need not be finitely generated even when the module is finitely generated
    – user362405
    Dec 29 '18 at 12:38










  • Ah sorry, thought of a noetherian ring.
    – Student7
    Dec 29 '18 at 12:43










  • Reduce the problem to when $R$ is a field, by going to the fraction field.
    – Mohan
    Dec 29 '18 at 14:16










  • @Mohan can you elaborate. I am not well versed with the techniques
    – user362405
    Dec 29 '18 at 14:23


















  • @Student7 submodule need not be finitely generated even when the module is finitely generated
    – user362405
    Dec 29 '18 at 12:38










  • Ah sorry, thought of a noetherian ring.
    – Student7
    Dec 29 '18 at 12:43










  • Reduce the problem to when $R$ is a field, by going to the fraction field.
    – Mohan
    Dec 29 '18 at 14:16










  • @Mohan can you elaborate. I am not well versed with the techniques
    – user362405
    Dec 29 '18 at 14:23
















@Student7 submodule need not be finitely generated even when the module is finitely generated
– user362405
Dec 29 '18 at 12:38




@Student7 submodule need not be finitely generated even when the module is finitely generated
– user362405
Dec 29 '18 at 12:38












Ah sorry, thought of a noetherian ring.
– Student7
Dec 29 '18 at 12:43




Ah sorry, thought of a noetherian ring.
– Student7
Dec 29 '18 at 12:43












Reduce the problem to when $R$ is a field, by going to the fraction field.
– Mohan
Dec 29 '18 at 14:16




Reduce the problem to when $R$ is a field, by going to the fraction field.
– Mohan
Dec 29 '18 at 14:16












@Mohan can you elaborate. I am not well versed with the techniques
– user362405
Dec 29 '18 at 14:23




@Mohan can you elaborate. I am not well versed with the techniques
– user362405
Dec 29 '18 at 14:23










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Just an elaboration. Let $R$ be a domain and $M$ any module. Then rank of $M$ is equal to the dimension of the vector space over $K$, the fraction field of $R$ of $Motimes_R K$ (if you are unfamiliar with tensor products, you can also use localization). So, rank of $M$ is rank of $Motimes K$ which is clearly the sum of the ranks of $Notimes K$ and $M/Notimes K$ and the rest should be clear.






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    Just an elaboration. Let $R$ be a domain and $M$ any module. Then rank of $M$ is equal to the dimension of the vector space over $K$, the fraction field of $R$ of $Motimes_R K$ (if you are unfamiliar with tensor products, you can also use localization). So, rank of $M$ is rank of $Motimes K$ which is clearly the sum of the ranks of $Notimes K$ and $M/Notimes K$ and the rest should be clear.






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      Just an elaboration. Let $R$ be a domain and $M$ any module. Then rank of $M$ is equal to the dimension of the vector space over $K$, the fraction field of $R$ of $Motimes_R K$ (if you are unfamiliar with tensor products, you can also use localization). So, rank of $M$ is rank of $Motimes K$ which is clearly the sum of the ranks of $Notimes K$ and $M/Notimes K$ and the rest should be clear.






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        Just an elaboration. Let $R$ be a domain and $M$ any module. Then rank of $M$ is equal to the dimension of the vector space over $K$, the fraction field of $R$ of $Motimes_R K$ (if you are unfamiliar with tensor products, you can also use localization). So, rank of $M$ is rank of $Motimes K$ which is clearly the sum of the ranks of $Notimes K$ and $M/Notimes K$ and the rest should be clear.






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