Calculate gradient of the spectral norm analytically












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Given a matrix $F in mathbb{C}^{m times n}$ such that a $m>n$ and other matrix $A$ (non-symmetric matrix) of size $n times n$ and spectral norm as:



$$|A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F|_2 = sigma_{max}(A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F) = sqrt{lambda_{max} left( (A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F)^* (A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F right)),}$$



How do I compute analytically $nabla_b |A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F|_2$, where $b in mathbb{C}^{m times 1}$ is some vector and {$*$} is a sign for conjugate transpose?



I need gradient because I want to find $b$ by minimizing $|A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F|_2$ as I would like to find the optimum by using gradient descent. Is it possible?










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    If you only care about result and your problem is not too large, use a monte-carlo based method. They don't converge as fast, but they don't require you to know the gradient. See, for example the metropolis-hastings algorithm. The logic is to compute the value at a random point not too far from the current point, and move to it with a certain probability, that is larger if your result is better than the one before
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    – Aleksejs Fomins
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    @AleksejsFomins Is there an analytic way to do this?
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    – abina shr
    Jan 17 at 14:13










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    To do what? Metropolis-Hastings - no, it is a numerical technique: you plug in a metric you want to minimize, you get back a vector that minimizes it. Gradient Descent that you have expressed the intent of using also is not analytical - it is a numeric technique for finding minimum or maximum. It is a little faster than MH, but it only works if your problem has only 1 maximum/minimum. Perhaps you are asking if it is possible to find the gradient you seek analytically - I don't know. What I try to say is that maybe you don't even need it
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    – Aleksejs Fomins
    Jan 17 at 14:53


















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$begingroup$


Given a matrix $F in mathbb{C}^{m times n}$ such that a $m>n$ and other matrix $A$ (non-symmetric matrix) of size $n times n$ and spectral norm as:



$$|A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F|_2 = sigma_{max}(A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F) = sqrt{lambda_{max} left( (A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F)^* (A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F right)),}$$



How do I compute analytically $nabla_b |A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F|_2$, where $b in mathbb{C}^{m times 1}$ is some vector and {$*$} is a sign for conjugate transpose?



I need gradient because I want to find $b$ by minimizing $|A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F|_2$ as I would like to find the optimum by using gradient descent. Is it possible?










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  • $begingroup$
    If you only care about result and your problem is not too large, use a monte-carlo based method. They don't converge as fast, but they don't require you to know the gradient. See, for example the metropolis-hastings algorithm. The logic is to compute the value at a random point not too far from the current point, and move to it with a certain probability, that is larger if your result is better than the one before
    $endgroup$
    – Aleksejs Fomins
    Jan 17 at 14:08












  • $begingroup$
    @AleksejsFomins Is there an analytic way to do this?
    $endgroup$
    – abina shr
    Jan 17 at 14:13










  • $begingroup$
    To do what? Metropolis-Hastings - no, it is a numerical technique: you plug in a metric you want to minimize, you get back a vector that minimizes it. Gradient Descent that you have expressed the intent of using also is not analytical - it is a numeric technique for finding minimum or maximum. It is a little faster than MH, but it only works if your problem has only 1 maximum/minimum. Perhaps you are asking if it is possible to find the gradient you seek analytically - I don't know. What I try to say is that maybe you don't even need it
    $endgroup$
    – Aleksejs Fomins
    Jan 17 at 14:53
















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$begingroup$


Given a matrix $F in mathbb{C}^{m times n}$ such that a $m>n$ and other matrix $A$ (non-symmetric matrix) of size $n times n$ and spectral norm as:



$$|A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F|_2 = sigma_{max}(A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F) = sqrt{lambda_{max} left( (A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F)^* (A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F right)),}$$



How do I compute analytically $nabla_b |A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F|_2$, where $b in mathbb{C}^{m times 1}$ is some vector and {$*$} is a sign for conjugate transpose?



I need gradient because I want to find $b$ by minimizing $|A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F|_2$ as I would like to find the optimum by using gradient descent. Is it possible?










share|cite|improve this question











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Given a matrix $F in mathbb{C}^{m times n}$ such that a $m>n$ and other matrix $A$ (non-symmetric matrix) of size $n times n$ and spectral norm as:



$$|A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F|_2 = sigma_{max}(A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F) = sqrt{lambda_{max} left( (A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F)^* (A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F right)),}$$



How do I compute analytically $nabla_b |A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F|_2$, where $b in mathbb{C}^{m times 1}$ is some vector and {$*$} is a sign for conjugate transpose?



I need gradient because I want to find $b$ by minimizing $|A-F^*operatorname{diag}(b)F|_2$ as I would like to find the optimum by using gradient descent. Is it possible?







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  • $begingroup$
    If you only care about result and your problem is not too large, use a monte-carlo based method. They don't converge as fast, but they don't require you to know the gradient. See, for example the metropolis-hastings algorithm. The logic is to compute the value at a random point not too far from the current point, and move to it with a certain probability, that is larger if your result is better than the one before
    $endgroup$
    – Aleksejs Fomins
    Jan 17 at 14:08












  • $begingroup$
    @AleksejsFomins Is there an analytic way to do this?
    $endgroup$
    – abina shr
    Jan 17 at 14:13










  • $begingroup$
    To do what? Metropolis-Hastings - no, it is a numerical technique: you plug in a metric you want to minimize, you get back a vector that minimizes it. Gradient Descent that you have expressed the intent of using also is not analytical - it is a numeric technique for finding minimum or maximum. It is a little faster than MH, but it only works if your problem has only 1 maximum/minimum. Perhaps you are asking if it is possible to find the gradient you seek analytically - I don't know. What I try to say is that maybe you don't even need it
    $endgroup$
    – Aleksejs Fomins
    Jan 17 at 14:53




















  • $begingroup$
    If you only care about result and your problem is not too large, use a monte-carlo based method. They don't converge as fast, but they don't require you to know the gradient. See, for example the metropolis-hastings algorithm. The logic is to compute the value at a random point not too far from the current point, and move to it with a certain probability, that is larger if your result is better than the one before
    $endgroup$
    – Aleksejs Fomins
    Jan 17 at 14:08












  • $begingroup$
    @AleksejsFomins Is there an analytic way to do this?
    $endgroup$
    – abina shr
    Jan 17 at 14:13










  • $begingroup$
    To do what? Metropolis-Hastings - no, it is a numerical technique: you plug in a metric you want to minimize, you get back a vector that minimizes it. Gradient Descent that you have expressed the intent of using also is not analytical - it is a numeric technique for finding minimum or maximum. It is a little faster than MH, but it only works if your problem has only 1 maximum/minimum. Perhaps you are asking if it is possible to find the gradient you seek analytically - I don't know. What I try to say is that maybe you don't even need it
    $endgroup$
    – Aleksejs Fomins
    Jan 17 at 14:53


















$begingroup$
If you only care about result and your problem is not too large, use a monte-carlo based method. They don't converge as fast, but they don't require you to know the gradient. See, for example the metropolis-hastings algorithm. The logic is to compute the value at a random point not too far from the current point, and move to it with a certain probability, that is larger if your result is better than the one before
$endgroup$
– Aleksejs Fomins
Jan 17 at 14:08






$begingroup$
If you only care about result and your problem is not too large, use a monte-carlo based method. They don't converge as fast, but they don't require you to know the gradient. See, for example the metropolis-hastings algorithm. The logic is to compute the value at a random point not too far from the current point, and move to it with a certain probability, that is larger if your result is better than the one before
$endgroup$
– Aleksejs Fomins
Jan 17 at 14:08














$begingroup$
@AleksejsFomins Is there an analytic way to do this?
$endgroup$
– abina shr
Jan 17 at 14:13




$begingroup$
@AleksejsFomins Is there an analytic way to do this?
$endgroup$
– abina shr
Jan 17 at 14:13












$begingroup$
To do what? Metropolis-Hastings - no, it is a numerical technique: you plug in a metric you want to minimize, you get back a vector that minimizes it. Gradient Descent that you have expressed the intent of using also is not analytical - it is a numeric technique for finding minimum or maximum. It is a little faster than MH, but it only works if your problem has only 1 maximum/minimum. Perhaps you are asking if it is possible to find the gradient you seek analytically - I don't know. What I try to say is that maybe you don't even need it
$endgroup$
– Aleksejs Fomins
Jan 17 at 14:53






$begingroup$
To do what? Metropolis-Hastings - no, it is a numerical technique: you plug in a metric you want to minimize, you get back a vector that minimizes it. Gradient Descent that you have expressed the intent of using also is not analytical - it is a numeric technique for finding minimum or maximum. It is a little faster than MH, but it only works if your problem has only 1 maximum/minimum. Perhaps you are asking if it is possible to find the gradient you seek analytically - I don't know. What I try to say is that maybe you don't even need it
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Let's use $big{F^T,,F^C,,F^H=(F^C)^Tbig},$ to denote the $big{$Transpose, Complex, Hermitian$big}$ conjugates of $F$, respectively.



Let's also use the Frobenius product (:) notation instead of the Trace function, i.e.
$$A:B = {rm Tr}(A^TB)$$
[NB:  The use of $A^T$ (rather than $A^H$) on the RHS is deliberate.]



Define the variables
$$eqalign{
B &= {rm Diag}(b) cr
X &= F^HBF-A cr
}$$

Given the SVD of $X$
$$eqalign{
X &= USV^H cr
U &= big[,u_1,u_2 ldots u_n,big],,&u_k&in{mathbb C}^{mtimes 1} cr
S &= {rm Diag}(sigma_k),&S&in{mathbb R}^{ntimes n} cr
V &= big[,v_1,v_2 ldots v_n,big],&v_k&in{mathbb C}^{ntimes 1} cr
}$$

where the $sigma_k$ are ordered such that $,,sigma_1>sigma_2geldotsgesigma_nge 0$



The gradient of the spectral norm $phi = |X|_2$ can be written as
$$G = frac{partialphi}{partial X} = (u_1v_1^H)^C = u_1^Cv_1^T$$
To find the gradient wrt the vector $b$, write the differential and perform a change of variables.
$$eqalign{
dphi &= G:dX cr
&= G:F^H,dB,F cr
&= F^C GF^T:dB cr
&= F^C GF^T:{rm Diag}(db) cr
&= {rm diag}big(F^CGF^Tbig):db cr
frac{partialphi}{partial b}
&= {rm diag}big(F^CGF^Tbig) cr
&= {rm diag}big((Fu_1)^C(Fv_1)^Tbig) cr
}$$






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    Nice proof. I found this post useful in understanding one of the steps better
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    @AleksejsFomins Looking at that post (especially python_enthusiast's answer) made me realize that I had mistakenly calculated the complex conjugate of $G$, which I have now corrected. Thanks.
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$begingroup$

Let's use $big{F^T,,F^C,,F^H=(F^C)^Tbig},$ to denote the $big{$Transpose, Complex, Hermitian$big}$ conjugates of $F$, respectively.



Let's also use the Frobenius product (:) notation instead of the Trace function, i.e.
$$A:B = {rm Tr}(A^TB)$$
[NB:  The use of $A^T$ (rather than $A^H$) on the RHS is deliberate.]



Define the variables
$$eqalign{
B &= {rm Diag}(b) cr
X &= F^HBF-A cr
}$$

Given the SVD of $X$
$$eqalign{
X &= USV^H cr
U &= big[,u_1,u_2 ldots u_n,big],,&u_k&in{mathbb C}^{mtimes 1} cr
S &= {rm Diag}(sigma_k),&S&in{mathbb R}^{ntimes n} cr
V &= big[,v_1,v_2 ldots v_n,big],&v_k&in{mathbb C}^{ntimes 1} cr
}$$

where the $sigma_k$ are ordered such that $,,sigma_1>sigma_2geldotsgesigma_nge 0$



The gradient of the spectral norm $phi = |X|_2$ can be written as
$$G = frac{partialphi}{partial X} = (u_1v_1^H)^C = u_1^Cv_1^T$$
To find the gradient wrt the vector $b$, write the differential and perform a change of variables.
$$eqalign{
dphi &= G:dX cr
&= G:F^H,dB,F cr
&= F^C GF^T:dB cr
&= F^C GF^T:{rm Diag}(db) cr
&= {rm diag}big(F^CGF^Tbig):db cr
frac{partialphi}{partial b}
&= {rm diag}big(F^CGF^Tbig) cr
&= {rm diag}big((Fu_1)^C(Fv_1)^Tbig) cr
}$$






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    Nice proof. I found this post useful in understanding one of the steps better
    $endgroup$
    – Aleksejs Fomins
    Jan 18 at 17:12






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @AleksejsFomins Looking at that post (especially python_enthusiast's answer) made me realize that I had mistakenly calculated the complex conjugate of $G$, which I have now corrected. Thanks.
    $endgroup$
    – greg
    Jan 18 at 22:26


















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$begingroup$

Let's use $big{F^T,,F^C,,F^H=(F^C)^Tbig},$ to denote the $big{$Transpose, Complex, Hermitian$big}$ conjugates of $F$, respectively.



Let's also use the Frobenius product (:) notation instead of the Trace function, i.e.
$$A:B = {rm Tr}(A^TB)$$
[NB:  The use of $A^T$ (rather than $A^H$) on the RHS is deliberate.]



Define the variables
$$eqalign{
B &= {rm Diag}(b) cr
X &= F^HBF-A cr
}$$

Given the SVD of $X$
$$eqalign{
X &= USV^H cr
U &= big[,u_1,u_2 ldots u_n,big],,&u_k&in{mathbb C}^{mtimes 1} cr
S &= {rm Diag}(sigma_k),&S&in{mathbb R}^{ntimes n} cr
V &= big[,v_1,v_2 ldots v_n,big],&v_k&in{mathbb C}^{ntimes 1} cr
}$$

where the $sigma_k$ are ordered such that $,,sigma_1>sigma_2geldotsgesigma_nge 0$



The gradient of the spectral norm $phi = |X|_2$ can be written as
$$G = frac{partialphi}{partial X} = (u_1v_1^H)^C = u_1^Cv_1^T$$
To find the gradient wrt the vector $b$, write the differential and perform a change of variables.
$$eqalign{
dphi &= G:dX cr
&= G:F^H,dB,F cr
&= F^C GF^T:dB cr
&= F^C GF^T:{rm Diag}(db) cr
&= {rm diag}big(F^CGF^Tbig):db cr
frac{partialphi}{partial b}
&= {rm diag}big(F^CGF^Tbig) cr
&= {rm diag}big((Fu_1)^C(Fv_1)^Tbig) cr
}$$






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  • $begingroup$
    Nice proof. I found this post useful in understanding one of the steps better
    $endgroup$
    – Aleksejs Fomins
    Jan 18 at 17:12






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @AleksejsFomins Looking at that post (especially python_enthusiast's answer) made me realize that I had mistakenly calculated the complex conjugate of $G$, which I have now corrected. Thanks.
    $endgroup$
    – greg
    Jan 18 at 22:26
















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2








2





$begingroup$

Let's use $big{F^T,,F^C,,F^H=(F^C)^Tbig},$ to denote the $big{$Transpose, Complex, Hermitian$big}$ conjugates of $F$, respectively.



Let's also use the Frobenius product (:) notation instead of the Trace function, i.e.
$$A:B = {rm Tr}(A^TB)$$
[NB:  The use of $A^T$ (rather than $A^H$) on the RHS is deliberate.]



Define the variables
$$eqalign{
B &= {rm Diag}(b) cr
X &= F^HBF-A cr
}$$

Given the SVD of $X$
$$eqalign{
X &= USV^H cr
U &= big[,u_1,u_2 ldots u_n,big],,&u_k&in{mathbb C}^{mtimes 1} cr
S &= {rm Diag}(sigma_k),&S&in{mathbb R}^{ntimes n} cr
V &= big[,v_1,v_2 ldots v_n,big],&v_k&in{mathbb C}^{ntimes 1} cr
}$$

where the $sigma_k$ are ordered such that $,,sigma_1>sigma_2geldotsgesigma_nge 0$



The gradient of the spectral norm $phi = |X|_2$ can be written as
$$G = frac{partialphi}{partial X} = (u_1v_1^H)^C = u_1^Cv_1^T$$
To find the gradient wrt the vector $b$, write the differential and perform a change of variables.
$$eqalign{
dphi &= G:dX cr
&= G:F^H,dB,F cr
&= F^C GF^T:dB cr
&= F^C GF^T:{rm Diag}(db) cr
&= {rm diag}big(F^CGF^Tbig):db cr
frac{partialphi}{partial b}
&= {rm diag}big(F^CGF^Tbig) cr
&= {rm diag}big((Fu_1)^C(Fv_1)^Tbig) cr
}$$






share|cite|improve this answer











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Let's use $big{F^T,,F^C,,F^H=(F^C)^Tbig},$ to denote the $big{$Transpose, Complex, Hermitian$big}$ conjugates of $F$, respectively.



Let's also use the Frobenius product (:) notation instead of the Trace function, i.e.
$$A:B = {rm Tr}(A^TB)$$
[NB:  The use of $A^T$ (rather than $A^H$) on the RHS is deliberate.]



Define the variables
$$eqalign{
B &= {rm Diag}(b) cr
X &= F^HBF-A cr
}$$

Given the SVD of $X$
$$eqalign{
X &= USV^H cr
U &= big[,u_1,u_2 ldots u_n,big],,&u_k&in{mathbb C}^{mtimes 1} cr
S &= {rm Diag}(sigma_k),&S&in{mathbb R}^{ntimes n} cr
V &= big[,v_1,v_2 ldots v_n,big],&v_k&in{mathbb C}^{ntimes 1} cr
}$$

where the $sigma_k$ are ordered such that $,,sigma_1>sigma_2geldotsgesigma_nge 0$



The gradient of the spectral norm $phi = |X|_2$ can be written as
$$G = frac{partialphi}{partial X} = (u_1v_1^H)^C = u_1^Cv_1^T$$
To find the gradient wrt the vector $b$, write the differential and perform a change of variables.
$$eqalign{
dphi &= G:dX cr
&= G:F^H,dB,F cr
&= F^C GF^T:dB cr
&= F^C GF^T:{rm Diag}(db) cr
&= {rm diag}big(F^CGF^Tbig):db cr
frac{partialphi}{partial b}
&= {rm diag}big(F^CGF^Tbig) cr
&= {rm diag}big((Fu_1)^C(Fv_1)^Tbig) cr
}$$







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  • $begingroup$
    Nice proof. I found this post useful in understanding one of the steps better
    $endgroup$
    – Aleksejs Fomins
    Jan 18 at 17:12






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @AleksejsFomins Looking at that post (especially python_enthusiast's answer) made me realize that I had mistakenly calculated the complex conjugate of $G$, which I have now corrected. Thanks.
    $endgroup$
    – greg
    Jan 18 at 22:26




















  • $begingroup$
    Nice proof. I found this post useful in understanding one of the steps better
    $endgroup$
    – Aleksejs Fomins
    Jan 18 at 17:12






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @AleksejsFomins Looking at that post (especially python_enthusiast's answer) made me realize that I had mistakenly calculated the complex conjugate of $G$, which I have now corrected. Thanks.
    $endgroup$
    – greg
    Jan 18 at 22:26


















$begingroup$
Nice proof. I found this post useful in understanding one of the steps better
$endgroup$
– Aleksejs Fomins
Jan 18 at 17:12




$begingroup$
Nice proof. I found this post useful in understanding one of the steps better
$endgroup$
– Aleksejs Fomins
Jan 18 at 17:12




1




1




$begingroup$
@AleksejsFomins Looking at that post (especially python_enthusiast's answer) made me realize that I had mistakenly calculated the complex conjugate of $G$, which I have now corrected. Thanks.
$endgroup$
– greg
Jan 18 at 22:26






$begingroup$
@AleksejsFomins Looking at that post (especially python_enthusiast's answer) made me realize that I had mistakenly calculated the complex conjugate of $G$, which I have now corrected. Thanks.
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– greg
Jan 18 at 22:26




















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