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I need to solve for $n$ if $$P^n_4=60times C^n_2$$I’ve gotten up to $$n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)=30n(n-1)$$










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    simplify n(n-1) on both sides, you get (n-2)(n-3)=30, which leads to solution n=8 (or n=-3, which i suppose makes no sense because you are working with n positive)
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I need to solve for $n$ if $$P^n_4=60times C^n_2$$I’ve gotten up to $$n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)=30n(n-1)$$










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    simplify n(n-1) on both sides, you get (n-2)(n-3)=30, which leads to solution n=8 (or n=-3, which i suppose makes no sense because you are working with n positive)
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I need to solve for $n$ if $$P^n_4=60times C^n_2$$I’ve gotten up to $$n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)=30n(n-1)$$










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I need to solve for $n$ if $$P^n_4=60times C^n_2$$I’ve gotten up to $$n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)=30n(n-1)$$







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closed as off-topic by darij grinberg, Namaste, Holo, user91500, José Carlos Santos Jan 15 at 9:34


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    simplify n(n-1) on both sides, you get (n-2)(n-3)=30, which leads to solution n=8 (or n=-3, which i suppose makes no sense because you are working with n positive)
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    – tommycautero
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    simplify n(n-1) on both sides, you get (n-2)(n-3)=30, which leads to solution n=8 (or n=-3, which i suppose makes no sense because you are working with n positive)
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simplify n(n-1) on both sides, you get (n-2)(n-3)=30, which leads to solution n=8 (or n=-3, which i suppose makes no sense because you are working with n positive)
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simplify n(n-1) on both sides, you get (n-2)(n-3)=30, which leads to solution n=8 (or n=-3, which i suppose makes no sense because you are working with n positive)
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Now your equation can be simplified to



$n(n-1)[(n-2)(n-3)-30]=0$
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$n(n-1)[n^2-5n-24]=0$



From here we get following values



$n=-3,0,1,8$



Now since $ngeq4$



$n=8$ is your answer.






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    By eliminating common terms on both sides, you get $(n-2)(n-3)=30$, or $n^2-5n-24=0$. Positive solution is $n=8$.






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      You are nearly there! You got$$n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)=30n(n-1)$$Now shift all the terms to one side to get$$n(n-1)Big[(n-2)(n-3)-30Big]=0$$So $n$ could be $0,1$ or such that$$(n-2)(n-3)-30=0\implies n^2-5n-24=(n-8)(n+3)=0\therefore n=0,1,-3,8$$If you define $P^n_4=displaystylefrac{n!}{(n-4)!}$, you need $nge4$. This leaves you with the answer $n=8$.






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        Now your equation can be simplified to



        $n(n-1)[(n-2)(n-3)-30]=0$
        which can be further simplified to



        $n(n-1)[n^2-5n-24]=0$



        From here we get following values



        $n=-3,0,1,8$



        Now since $ngeq4$



        $n=8$ is your answer.






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          Now your equation can be simplified to



          $n(n-1)[(n-2)(n-3)-30]=0$
          which can be further simplified to



          $n(n-1)[n^2-5n-24]=0$



          From here we get following values



          $n=-3,0,1,8$



          Now since $ngeq4$



          $n=8$ is your answer.






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            Now your equation can be simplified to



            $n(n-1)[(n-2)(n-3)-30]=0$
            which can be further simplified to



            $n(n-1)[n^2-5n-24]=0$



            From here we get following values



            $n=-3,0,1,8$



            Now since $ngeq4$



            $n=8$ is your answer.






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            Now your equation can be simplified to



            $n(n-1)[(n-2)(n-3)-30]=0$
            which can be further simplified to



            $n(n-1)[n^2-5n-24]=0$



            From here we get following values



            $n=-3,0,1,8$



            Now since $ngeq4$



            $n=8$ is your answer.







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                By eliminating common terms on both sides, you get $(n-2)(n-3)=30$, or $n^2-5n-24=0$. Positive solution is $n=8$.






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                  By eliminating common terms on both sides, you get $(n-2)(n-3)=30$, or $n^2-5n-24=0$. Positive solution is $n=8$.






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                    By eliminating common terms on both sides, you get $(n-2)(n-3)=30$, or $n^2-5n-24=0$. Positive solution is $n=8$.






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                    By eliminating common terms on both sides, you get $(n-2)(n-3)=30$, or $n^2-5n-24=0$. Positive solution is $n=8$.







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                        You are nearly there! You got$$n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)=30n(n-1)$$Now shift all the terms to one side to get$$n(n-1)Big[(n-2)(n-3)-30Big]=0$$So $n$ could be $0,1$ or such that$$(n-2)(n-3)-30=0\implies n^2-5n-24=(n-8)(n+3)=0\therefore n=0,1,-3,8$$If you define $P^n_4=displaystylefrac{n!}{(n-4)!}$, you need $nge4$. This leaves you with the answer $n=8$.






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                          You are nearly there! You got$$n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)=30n(n-1)$$Now shift all the terms to one side to get$$n(n-1)Big[(n-2)(n-3)-30Big]=0$$So $n$ could be $0,1$ or such that$$(n-2)(n-3)-30=0\implies n^2-5n-24=(n-8)(n+3)=0\therefore n=0,1,-3,8$$If you define $P^n_4=displaystylefrac{n!}{(n-4)!}$, you need $nge4$. This leaves you with the answer $n=8$.






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                            You are nearly there! You got$$n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)=30n(n-1)$$Now shift all the terms to one side to get$$n(n-1)Big[(n-2)(n-3)-30Big]=0$$So $n$ could be $0,1$ or such that$$(n-2)(n-3)-30=0\implies n^2-5n-24=(n-8)(n+3)=0\therefore n=0,1,-3,8$$If you define $P^n_4=displaystylefrac{n!}{(n-4)!}$, you need $nge4$. This leaves you with the answer $n=8$.






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                            You are nearly there! You got$$n(n-1)(n-2)(n-3)=30n(n-1)$$Now shift all the terms to one side to get$$n(n-1)Big[(n-2)(n-3)-30Big]=0$$So $n$ could be $0,1$ or such that$$(n-2)(n-3)-30=0\implies n^2-5n-24=(n-8)(n+3)=0\therefore n=0,1,-3,8$$If you define $P^n_4=displaystylefrac{n!}{(n-4)!}$, you need $nge4$. This leaves you with the answer $n=8$.







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