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I need to rationalize $displaystylefrac{1}{a+bsqrt[3]2 + c(sqrt[3]2)^2}$
I'm given what I need to rationalize it, namely $displaystylefrac{(a^2-2bc)+(-ab+2c^2)sqrt[3]2+(b^2-ac)sqrt[3]2^2}{(a^2-2bc)+(-ab+2c^2)sqrt[3]2+(b^2-ac)sqrt[3]2^2}$
But I fail to see the motivation behind this. Can someone give a more general explanation of how to come to this expression?
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I need to rationalize $displaystylefrac{1}{a+bsqrt[3]2 + c(sqrt[3]2)^2}$
I'm given what I need to rationalize it, namely $displaystylefrac{(a^2-2bc)+(-ab+2c^2)sqrt[3]2+(b^2-ac)sqrt[3]2^2}{(a^2-2bc)+(-ab+2c^2)sqrt[3]2+(b^2-ac)sqrt[3]2^2}$
But I fail to see the motivation behind this. Can someone give a more general explanation of how to come to this expression?
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I need to rationalize $displaystylefrac{1}{a+bsqrt[3]2 + c(sqrt[3]2)^2}$
I'm given what I need to rationalize it, namely $displaystylefrac{(a^2-2bc)+(-ab+2c^2)sqrt[3]2+(b^2-ac)sqrt[3]2^2}{(a^2-2bc)+(-ab+2c^2)sqrt[3]2+(b^2-ac)sqrt[3]2^2}$
But I fail to see the motivation behind this. Can someone give a more general explanation of how to come to this expression?
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I need to rationalize $displaystylefrac{1}{a+bsqrt[3]2 + c(sqrt[3]2)^2}$
I'm given what I need to rationalize it, namely $displaystylefrac{(a^2-2bc)+(-ab+2c^2)sqrt[3]2+(b^2-ac)sqrt[3]2^2}{(a^2-2bc)+(-ab+2c^2)sqrt[3]2+(b^2-ac)sqrt[3]2^2}$
But I fail to see the motivation behind this. Can someone give a more general explanation of how to come to this expression?
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You can multiply it by $1+dsqrt[3]2+esqrt[3]4$ and insist the product not have any factors of $sqrt[3]2$ or $sqrt[3]4$. So
$$(a+bsqrt[3]2+csqrt[3]4)(1+dsqrt[3]2+esqrt[3]4)=\a+ebe+2cd+sqrt[3]2(ad+b+2ce)+sqrt[3]4(ae+bd+c)$$
So we need $ad+b+2ce=0, ae+bd+c=0$, giving $$e=-frac {ad+b}{2c}\-a^2d-ab+2cbd+2c^2=0\(a^2-2bc)d=2c^2-ab\(a^2-2bc)e=b^2-ac$$ Then we make the leading term $a^2-bc$ to clear the fractions
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Heh. Beat me to the punch. +1
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– Rick Decker
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You rationalize by using Euclid's algorithm as used to prove Bézout's identity.
Let $alpha = sqrt[3]{2}$. We have obviously to assume $a+bsqrt[3]2 + c(sqrt[3]2)^2 = a+balpha + c alpha^2 ne 0$.
Consider the polynomial $0 ne a + b x + c x^2 in mathbb{Q}[x]$. Since $x^3 - 2$ is irreducible in $mathbb{Q}[x]$, for the gcd we have $(a + b x + c x^2, x^3 - 2) = 1$. Use Euclid's algorithm to find polynomials $u, v in mathbb{Q}[x]$ such that $(a + b x + c x^2) cdot u + (x^3 - 2) cdot v = 1$. Now evaluate this for $x = alpha$ to obtain $(a + b alpha+ calpha^2) cdot u(alpha) = 1$, so that
begin{equation}
frac{1}{a+bsqrt[3]2 + c(sqrt[3]2)^2}
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frac{1}{a + b alpha+ c alpha^2}
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u(alpha).
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I prefer this approach. Magic Bezout's identity. +1
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– mrs
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You can also rationalize this by making use of the algebraic identity
$$x^3 + y^3 + z^3 - 3xyz ; = ; left(x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - xy - xz - yzright)left(x+y+zright)$$
You can view this as analogous to binomial square root rationalization, in which having a denominator of the form $x+y,$ where $x^2$ and $y^2$ are free of radicals, can be freed of radicals by multiplying both numerator and denominator by $x-y.$ In your situation, $x+y+z$ is what you have in the denominator and what you do is multiply both numerator and denominator by the "conjugate" $x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - xy - xz - yz.$ This identity doesn't take care of rationalizing a general trinomial made up of cube roots, by the way. For this there is a much more complicated identity that will work. See this 16 November 2010 AP-calculus post at Math Forum for a discussion of how to obtain such an identity.
Incidentally, this algebraic identity has a lot of uses, the best known probably being one of the ways of obtaining the cubic formula for solving cubic equations. This identity makes a lot of appearances in 19th century algebra texts and more about it can be found in the following sci.math thread I started on 23 April 2009: Factorization of a^3 + b^3 + c^3 - 3abc. I've assembled over a hundred old references to it since then, and one day I might write a historical survey of its mathematical and educational appearances in 19th century literature. It's also a standard identity for those serious about mathematical olympiad problems.
A few months after those sci.math posts I discovered the following short survey paper on this algebraic identity:
Desmond MacHale, My favourite polynomial, The Mathematical Gazette 75 #472 (June 1991), 157-165.
See also Mark B. Villarino's recent (2 January 2013) paper A cubic surface of revolution.
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You rationalize by multiplying by the conjugates. The conjugates of $root3of2$ are $rho_1root3of2$ and $rho_2root3of2$ where $rho_1=e^{2pi i/3}$ and $rho_2=rho_1^2=e^{4pi i/3}$. So, you want to multiply top and bottom by $$(a+brho_1root3of2+crho_2root3of2^2)(a+brho_2root3of2+crho_1root3of2^2)$$ Multiply all that out, and simplify by using $rho_1rho_2=1$ and $rho_2^2=rho_1$ and maybe $1+rho_1+rho_2=0$, and with any luck you'll get what you're looking for.
This works in general, in that to rationalize you can always multiply by all the conjugates. The bad news is that it's not always so easy to find simple expressions for the conjugates.
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I know this is a bit of an old post and apologize, but could you explain how you came up with those two expressions you multiplied by? I understood fine the conjugates of $sqrt[3]{2}$, but I couldn't understand why those expressions were chosen.. Is it meant to "cycle through" $rho_1$ and $rho_2$?
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@Andrew, those two expressions are the conjugates of $a+broot3of2+croot3of2^2$. Note that the conjugate of a sum is the sum of the conjugates; the conjugate of a product is the product of the conjugates; and conjugation fixes the rationals.
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You can multiply it by $1+dsqrt[3]2+esqrt[3]4$ and insist the product not have any factors of $sqrt[3]2$ or $sqrt[3]4$. So
$$(a+bsqrt[3]2+csqrt[3]4)(1+dsqrt[3]2+esqrt[3]4)=\a+ebe+2cd+sqrt[3]2(ad+b+2ce)+sqrt[3]4(ae+bd+c)$$
So we need $ad+b+2ce=0, ae+bd+c=0$, giving $$e=-frac {ad+b}{2c}\-a^2d-ab+2cbd+2c^2=0\(a^2-2bc)d=2c^2-ab\(a^2-2bc)e=b^2-ac$$ Then we make the leading term $a^2-bc$ to clear the fractions
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Heh. Beat me to the punch. +1
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– Rick Decker
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You can multiply it by $1+dsqrt[3]2+esqrt[3]4$ and insist the product not have any factors of $sqrt[3]2$ or $sqrt[3]4$. So
$$(a+bsqrt[3]2+csqrt[3]4)(1+dsqrt[3]2+esqrt[3]4)=\a+ebe+2cd+sqrt[3]2(ad+b+2ce)+sqrt[3]4(ae+bd+c)$$
So we need $ad+b+2ce=0, ae+bd+c=0$, giving $$e=-frac {ad+b}{2c}\-a^2d-ab+2cbd+2c^2=0\(a^2-2bc)d=2c^2-ab\(a^2-2bc)e=b^2-ac$$ Then we make the leading term $a^2-bc$ to clear the fractions
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Heh. Beat me to the punch. +1
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– Rick Decker
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You can multiply it by $1+dsqrt[3]2+esqrt[3]4$ and insist the product not have any factors of $sqrt[3]2$ or $sqrt[3]4$. So
$$(a+bsqrt[3]2+csqrt[3]4)(1+dsqrt[3]2+esqrt[3]4)=\a+ebe+2cd+sqrt[3]2(ad+b+2ce)+sqrt[3]4(ae+bd+c)$$
So we need $ad+b+2ce=0, ae+bd+c=0$, giving $$e=-frac {ad+b}{2c}\-a^2d-ab+2cbd+2c^2=0\(a^2-2bc)d=2c^2-ab\(a^2-2bc)e=b^2-ac$$ Then we make the leading term $a^2-bc$ to clear the fractions
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You can multiply it by $1+dsqrt[3]2+esqrt[3]4$ and insist the product not have any factors of $sqrt[3]2$ or $sqrt[3]4$. So
$$(a+bsqrt[3]2+csqrt[3]4)(1+dsqrt[3]2+esqrt[3]4)=\a+ebe+2cd+sqrt[3]2(ad+b+2ce)+sqrt[3]4(ae+bd+c)$$
So we need $ad+b+2ce=0, ae+bd+c=0$, giving $$e=-frac {ad+b}{2c}\-a^2d-ab+2cbd+2c^2=0\(a^2-2bc)d=2c^2-ab\(a^2-2bc)e=b^2-ac$$ Then we make the leading term $a^2-bc$ to clear the fractions
answered Feb 5 '13 at 1:35
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Heh. Beat me to the punch. +1
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– Rick Decker
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Heh. Beat me to the punch. +1
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– Rick Decker
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Heh. Beat me to the punch. +1
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– Rick Decker
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Heh. Beat me to the punch. +1
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– Rick Decker
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You rationalize by using Euclid's algorithm as used to prove Bézout's identity.
Let $alpha = sqrt[3]{2}$. We have obviously to assume $a+bsqrt[3]2 + c(sqrt[3]2)^2 = a+balpha + c alpha^2 ne 0$.
Consider the polynomial $0 ne a + b x + c x^2 in mathbb{Q}[x]$. Since $x^3 - 2$ is irreducible in $mathbb{Q}[x]$, for the gcd we have $(a + b x + c x^2, x^3 - 2) = 1$. Use Euclid's algorithm to find polynomials $u, v in mathbb{Q}[x]$ such that $(a + b x + c x^2) cdot u + (x^3 - 2) cdot v = 1$. Now evaluate this for $x = alpha$ to obtain $(a + b alpha+ calpha^2) cdot u(alpha) = 1$, so that
begin{equation}
frac{1}{a+bsqrt[3]2 + c(sqrt[3]2)^2}
=
frac{1}{a + b alpha+ c alpha^2}
=
u(alpha).
end{equation}
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I prefer this approach. Magic Bezout's identity. +1
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– mrs
Feb 6 '13 at 2:44
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You rationalize by using Euclid's algorithm as used to prove Bézout's identity.
Let $alpha = sqrt[3]{2}$. We have obviously to assume $a+bsqrt[3]2 + c(sqrt[3]2)^2 = a+balpha + c alpha^2 ne 0$.
Consider the polynomial $0 ne a + b x + c x^2 in mathbb{Q}[x]$. Since $x^3 - 2$ is irreducible in $mathbb{Q}[x]$, for the gcd we have $(a + b x + c x^2, x^3 - 2) = 1$. Use Euclid's algorithm to find polynomials $u, v in mathbb{Q}[x]$ such that $(a + b x + c x^2) cdot u + (x^3 - 2) cdot v = 1$. Now evaluate this for $x = alpha$ to obtain $(a + b alpha+ calpha^2) cdot u(alpha) = 1$, so that
begin{equation}
frac{1}{a+bsqrt[3]2 + c(sqrt[3]2)^2}
=
frac{1}{a + b alpha+ c alpha^2}
=
u(alpha).
end{equation}
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I prefer this approach. Magic Bezout's identity. +1
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– mrs
Feb 6 '13 at 2:44
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You rationalize by using Euclid's algorithm as used to prove Bézout's identity.
Let $alpha = sqrt[3]{2}$. We have obviously to assume $a+bsqrt[3]2 + c(sqrt[3]2)^2 = a+balpha + c alpha^2 ne 0$.
Consider the polynomial $0 ne a + b x + c x^2 in mathbb{Q}[x]$. Since $x^3 - 2$ is irreducible in $mathbb{Q}[x]$, for the gcd we have $(a + b x + c x^2, x^3 - 2) = 1$. Use Euclid's algorithm to find polynomials $u, v in mathbb{Q}[x]$ such that $(a + b x + c x^2) cdot u + (x^3 - 2) cdot v = 1$. Now evaluate this for $x = alpha$ to obtain $(a + b alpha+ calpha^2) cdot u(alpha) = 1$, so that
begin{equation}
frac{1}{a+bsqrt[3]2 + c(sqrt[3]2)^2}
=
frac{1}{a + b alpha+ c alpha^2}
=
u(alpha).
end{equation}
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You rationalize by using Euclid's algorithm as used to prove Bézout's identity.
Let $alpha = sqrt[3]{2}$. We have obviously to assume $a+bsqrt[3]2 + c(sqrt[3]2)^2 = a+balpha + c alpha^2 ne 0$.
Consider the polynomial $0 ne a + b x + c x^2 in mathbb{Q}[x]$. Since $x^3 - 2$ is irreducible in $mathbb{Q}[x]$, for the gcd we have $(a + b x + c x^2, x^3 - 2) = 1$. Use Euclid's algorithm to find polynomials $u, v in mathbb{Q}[x]$ such that $(a + b x + c x^2) cdot u + (x^3 - 2) cdot v = 1$. Now evaluate this for $x = alpha$ to obtain $(a + b alpha+ calpha^2) cdot u(alpha) = 1$, so that
begin{equation}
frac{1}{a+bsqrt[3]2 + c(sqrt[3]2)^2}
=
frac{1}{a + b alpha+ c alpha^2}
=
u(alpha).
end{equation}
answered Feb 5 '13 at 20:45
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I prefer this approach. Magic Bezout's identity. +1
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I prefer this approach. Magic Bezout's identity. +1
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– mrs
Feb 6 '13 at 2:44
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I prefer this approach. Magic Bezout's identity. +1
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– mrs
Feb 6 '13 at 2:44
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I prefer this approach. Magic Bezout's identity. +1
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You can also rationalize this by making use of the algebraic identity
$$x^3 + y^3 + z^3 - 3xyz ; = ; left(x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - xy - xz - yzright)left(x+y+zright)$$
You can view this as analogous to binomial square root rationalization, in which having a denominator of the form $x+y,$ where $x^2$ and $y^2$ are free of radicals, can be freed of radicals by multiplying both numerator and denominator by $x-y.$ In your situation, $x+y+z$ is what you have in the denominator and what you do is multiply both numerator and denominator by the "conjugate" $x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - xy - xz - yz.$ This identity doesn't take care of rationalizing a general trinomial made up of cube roots, by the way. For this there is a much more complicated identity that will work. See this 16 November 2010 AP-calculus post at Math Forum for a discussion of how to obtain such an identity.
Incidentally, this algebraic identity has a lot of uses, the best known probably being one of the ways of obtaining the cubic formula for solving cubic equations. This identity makes a lot of appearances in 19th century algebra texts and more about it can be found in the following sci.math thread I started on 23 April 2009: Factorization of a^3 + b^3 + c^3 - 3abc. I've assembled over a hundred old references to it since then, and one day I might write a historical survey of its mathematical and educational appearances in 19th century literature. It's also a standard identity for those serious about mathematical olympiad problems.
A few months after those sci.math posts I discovered the following short survey paper on this algebraic identity:
Desmond MacHale, My favourite polynomial, The Mathematical Gazette 75 #472 (June 1991), 157-165.
See also Mark B. Villarino's recent (2 January 2013) paper A cubic surface of revolution.
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You can also rationalize this by making use of the algebraic identity
$$x^3 + y^3 + z^3 - 3xyz ; = ; left(x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - xy - xz - yzright)left(x+y+zright)$$
You can view this as analogous to binomial square root rationalization, in which having a denominator of the form $x+y,$ where $x^2$ and $y^2$ are free of radicals, can be freed of radicals by multiplying both numerator and denominator by $x-y.$ In your situation, $x+y+z$ is what you have in the denominator and what you do is multiply both numerator and denominator by the "conjugate" $x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - xy - xz - yz.$ This identity doesn't take care of rationalizing a general trinomial made up of cube roots, by the way. For this there is a much more complicated identity that will work. See this 16 November 2010 AP-calculus post at Math Forum for a discussion of how to obtain such an identity.
Incidentally, this algebraic identity has a lot of uses, the best known probably being one of the ways of obtaining the cubic formula for solving cubic equations. This identity makes a lot of appearances in 19th century algebra texts and more about it can be found in the following sci.math thread I started on 23 April 2009: Factorization of a^3 + b^3 + c^3 - 3abc. I've assembled over a hundred old references to it since then, and one day I might write a historical survey of its mathematical and educational appearances in 19th century literature. It's also a standard identity for those serious about mathematical olympiad problems.
A few months after those sci.math posts I discovered the following short survey paper on this algebraic identity:
Desmond MacHale, My favourite polynomial, The Mathematical Gazette 75 #472 (June 1991), 157-165.
See also Mark B. Villarino's recent (2 January 2013) paper A cubic surface of revolution.
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You can also rationalize this by making use of the algebraic identity
$$x^3 + y^3 + z^3 - 3xyz ; = ; left(x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - xy - xz - yzright)left(x+y+zright)$$
You can view this as analogous to binomial square root rationalization, in which having a denominator of the form $x+y,$ where $x^2$ and $y^2$ are free of radicals, can be freed of radicals by multiplying both numerator and denominator by $x-y.$ In your situation, $x+y+z$ is what you have in the denominator and what you do is multiply both numerator and denominator by the "conjugate" $x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - xy - xz - yz.$ This identity doesn't take care of rationalizing a general trinomial made up of cube roots, by the way. For this there is a much more complicated identity that will work. See this 16 November 2010 AP-calculus post at Math Forum for a discussion of how to obtain such an identity.
Incidentally, this algebraic identity has a lot of uses, the best known probably being one of the ways of obtaining the cubic formula for solving cubic equations. This identity makes a lot of appearances in 19th century algebra texts and more about it can be found in the following sci.math thread I started on 23 April 2009: Factorization of a^3 + b^3 + c^3 - 3abc. I've assembled over a hundred old references to it since then, and one day I might write a historical survey of its mathematical and educational appearances in 19th century literature. It's also a standard identity for those serious about mathematical olympiad problems.
A few months after those sci.math posts I discovered the following short survey paper on this algebraic identity:
Desmond MacHale, My favourite polynomial, The Mathematical Gazette 75 #472 (June 1991), 157-165.
See also Mark B. Villarino's recent (2 January 2013) paper A cubic surface of revolution.
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You can also rationalize this by making use of the algebraic identity
$$x^3 + y^3 + z^3 - 3xyz ; = ; left(x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - xy - xz - yzright)left(x+y+zright)$$
You can view this as analogous to binomial square root rationalization, in which having a denominator of the form $x+y,$ where $x^2$ and $y^2$ are free of radicals, can be freed of radicals by multiplying both numerator and denominator by $x-y.$ In your situation, $x+y+z$ is what you have in the denominator and what you do is multiply both numerator and denominator by the "conjugate" $x^2 + y^2 + z^2 - xy - xz - yz.$ This identity doesn't take care of rationalizing a general trinomial made up of cube roots, by the way. For this there is a much more complicated identity that will work. See this 16 November 2010 AP-calculus post at Math Forum for a discussion of how to obtain such an identity.
Incidentally, this algebraic identity has a lot of uses, the best known probably being one of the ways of obtaining the cubic formula for solving cubic equations. This identity makes a lot of appearances in 19th century algebra texts and more about it can be found in the following sci.math thread I started on 23 April 2009: Factorization of a^3 + b^3 + c^3 - 3abc. I've assembled over a hundred old references to it since then, and one day I might write a historical survey of its mathematical and educational appearances in 19th century literature. It's also a standard identity for those serious about mathematical olympiad problems.
A few months after those sci.math posts I discovered the following short survey paper on this algebraic identity:
Desmond MacHale, My favourite polynomial, The Mathematical Gazette 75 #472 (June 1991), 157-165.
See also Mark B. Villarino's recent (2 January 2013) paper A cubic surface of revolution.
answered Feb 5 '13 at 20:33
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You rationalize by multiplying by the conjugates. The conjugates of $root3of2$ are $rho_1root3of2$ and $rho_2root3of2$ where $rho_1=e^{2pi i/3}$ and $rho_2=rho_1^2=e^{4pi i/3}$. So, you want to multiply top and bottom by $$(a+brho_1root3of2+crho_2root3of2^2)(a+brho_2root3of2+crho_1root3of2^2)$$ Multiply all that out, and simplify by using $rho_1rho_2=1$ and $rho_2^2=rho_1$ and maybe $1+rho_1+rho_2=0$, and with any luck you'll get what you're looking for.
This works in general, in that to rationalize you can always multiply by all the conjugates. The bad news is that it's not always so easy to find simple expressions for the conjugates.
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I know this is a bit of an old post and apologize, but could you explain how you came up with those two expressions you multiplied by? I understood fine the conjugates of $sqrt[3]{2}$, but I couldn't understand why those expressions were chosen.. Is it meant to "cycle through" $rho_1$ and $rho_2$?
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@Andrew, those two expressions are the conjugates of $a+broot3of2+croot3of2^2$. Note that the conjugate of a sum is the sum of the conjugates; the conjugate of a product is the product of the conjugates; and conjugation fixes the rationals.
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– Gerry Myerson
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You rationalize by multiplying by the conjugates. The conjugates of $root3of2$ are $rho_1root3of2$ and $rho_2root3of2$ where $rho_1=e^{2pi i/3}$ and $rho_2=rho_1^2=e^{4pi i/3}$. So, you want to multiply top and bottom by $$(a+brho_1root3of2+crho_2root3of2^2)(a+brho_2root3of2+crho_1root3of2^2)$$ Multiply all that out, and simplify by using $rho_1rho_2=1$ and $rho_2^2=rho_1$ and maybe $1+rho_1+rho_2=0$, and with any luck you'll get what you're looking for.
This works in general, in that to rationalize you can always multiply by all the conjugates. The bad news is that it's not always so easy to find simple expressions for the conjugates.
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I know this is a bit of an old post and apologize, but could you explain how you came up with those two expressions you multiplied by? I understood fine the conjugates of $sqrt[3]{2}$, but I couldn't understand why those expressions were chosen.. Is it meant to "cycle through" $rho_1$ and $rho_2$?
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– Andrew Tawfeek
Nov 29 '17 at 2:47
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@Andrew, those two expressions are the conjugates of $a+broot3of2+croot3of2^2$. Note that the conjugate of a sum is the sum of the conjugates; the conjugate of a product is the product of the conjugates; and conjugation fixes the rationals.
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– Gerry Myerson
Nov 29 '17 at 2:55
add a comment |
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You rationalize by multiplying by the conjugates. The conjugates of $root3of2$ are $rho_1root3of2$ and $rho_2root3of2$ where $rho_1=e^{2pi i/3}$ and $rho_2=rho_1^2=e^{4pi i/3}$. So, you want to multiply top and bottom by $$(a+brho_1root3of2+crho_2root3of2^2)(a+brho_2root3of2+crho_1root3of2^2)$$ Multiply all that out, and simplify by using $rho_1rho_2=1$ and $rho_2^2=rho_1$ and maybe $1+rho_1+rho_2=0$, and with any luck you'll get what you're looking for.
This works in general, in that to rationalize you can always multiply by all the conjugates. The bad news is that it's not always so easy to find simple expressions for the conjugates.
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You rationalize by multiplying by the conjugates. The conjugates of $root3of2$ are $rho_1root3of2$ and $rho_2root3of2$ where $rho_1=e^{2pi i/3}$ and $rho_2=rho_1^2=e^{4pi i/3}$. So, you want to multiply top and bottom by $$(a+brho_1root3of2+crho_2root3of2^2)(a+brho_2root3of2+crho_1root3of2^2)$$ Multiply all that out, and simplify by using $rho_1rho_2=1$ and $rho_2^2=rho_1$ and maybe $1+rho_1+rho_2=0$, and with any luck you'll get what you're looking for.
This works in general, in that to rationalize you can always multiply by all the conjugates. The bad news is that it's not always so easy to find simple expressions for the conjugates.
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I know this is a bit of an old post and apologize, but could you explain how you came up with those two expressions you multiplied by? I understood fine the conjugates of $sqrt[3]{2}$, but I couldn't understand why those expressions were chosen.. Is it meant to "cycle through" $rho_1$ and $rho_2$?
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– Andrew Tawfeek
Nov 29 '17 at 2:47
1
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@Andrew, those two expressions are the conjugates of $a+broot3of2+croot3of2^2$. Note that the conjugate of a sum is the sum of the conjugates; the conjugate of a product is the product of the conjugates; and conjugation fixes the rationals.
$endgroup$
– Gerry Myerson
Nov 29 '17 at 2:55
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I know this is a bit of an old post and apologize, but could you explain how you came up with those two expressions you multiplied by? I understood fine the conjugates of $sqrt[3]{2}$, but I couldn't understand why those expressions were chosen.. Is it meant to "cycle through" $rho_1$ and $rho_2$?
$endgroup$
– Andrew Tawfeek
Nov 29 '17 at 2:47
1
$begingroup$
@Andrew, those two expressions are the conjugates of $a+broot3of2+croot3of2^2$. Note that the conjugate of a sum is the sum of the conjugates; the conjugate of a product is the product of the conjugates; and conjugation fixes the rationals.
$endgroup$
– Gerry Myerson
Nov 29 '17 at 2:55
$begingroup$
I know this is a bit of an old post and apologize, but could you explain how you came up with those two expressions you multiplied by? I understood fine the conjugates of $sqrt[3]{2}$, but I couldn't understand why those expressions were chosen.. Is it meant to "cycle through" $rho_1$ and $rho_2$?
$endgroup$
– Andrew Tawfeek
Nov 29 '17 at 2:47
$begingroup$
I know this is a bit of an old post and apologize, but could you explain how you came up with those two expressions you multiplied by? I understood fine the conjugates of $sqrt[3]{2}$, but I couldn't understand why those expressions were chosen.. Is it meant to "cycle through" $rho_1$ and $rho_2$?
$endgroup$
– Andrew Tawfeek
Nov 29 '17 at 2:47
1
1
$begingroup$
@Andrew, those two expressions are the conjugates of $a+broot3of2+croot3of2^2$. Note that the conjugate of a sum is the sum of the conjugates; the conjugate of a product is the product of the conjugates; and conjugation fixes the rationals.
$endgroup$
– Gerry Myerson
Nov 29 '17 at 2:55
$begingroup$
@Andrew, those two expressions are the conjugates of $a+broot3of2+croot3of2^2$. Note that the conjugate of a sum is the sum of the conjugates; the conjugate of a product is the product of the conjugates; and conjugation fixes the rationals.
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– Gerry Myerson
Nov 29 '17 at 2:55
add a comment |
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