For which abelian groups $G$ is there a short exact sequence $0 rightarrow mathbb{Z}/p^2 rightarrow G...
I am trying to find for which abelian groups $G$ is there a short exact sequence.
$0 rightarrow mathbb{Z}/p^2 rightarrow G rightarrow mathbb{Z}/p^2 rightarrow 0$?
I have reasoned as follows: consider the sequence with the maps as follows $$0 xrightarrow{phi} mathbb{Z}/p^2 xrightarrow{f} G xrightarrow{g} mathbb{Z}/p^2 xrightarrow{psi} 0$$
Since we want the sequence to be exact, we need that $ker f= im(phi) = 0$ (so $f$ is injective) and we need that $im(g) = ker (psi) = mathbb{Z}/p^2$ (so $g$ is surjective). On top of that, we know that $im( f) = ker g$. Then, by the first isomorphism theorem, we know that $mathbb{Z}/p^2 / ker f = mathbb{Z}/p^2 cong im(f) = ker g$. So we know $ker g = mathbb{Z}/p^2$ and $im(g) = mathbb{Z}/p^2$. This leads me to think that one possibility for $G$ is $mathbb{Z}/p^2 oplus mathbb{Z}/p^2$. However, the answers say that other possibilities could be $mathbb{Z}/p^4$ and $mathbb{Z}/p^3 oplus mathbb{Z}/p$ and I don't see how they came with this possibility, can anyone explain this solution? Also, is my argument for why $G$ can be $mathbb{Z}/p^2 oplus mathbb{Z}/p^2$ correct? Thanks for your help!
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I am trying to find for which abelian groups $G$ is there a short exact sequence.
$0 rightarrow mathbb{Z}/p^2 rightarrow G rightarrow mathbb{Z}/p^2 rightarrow 0$?
I have reasoned as follows: consider the sequence with the maps as follows $$0 xrightarrow{phi} mathbb{Z}/p^2 xrightarrow{f} G xrightarrow{g} mathbb{Z}/p^2 xrightarrow{psi} 0$$
Since we want the sequence to be exact, we need that $ker f= im(phi) = 0$ (so $f$ is injective) and we need that $im(g) = ker (psi) = mathbb{Z}/p^2$ (so $g$ is surjective). On top of that, we know that $im( f) = ker g$. Then, by the first isomorphism theorem, we know that $mathbb{Z}/p^2 / ker f = mathbb{Z}/p^2 cong im(f) = ker g$. So we know $ker g = mathbb{Z}/p^2$ and $im(g) = mathbb{Z}/p^2$. This leads me to think that one possibility for $G$ is $mathbb{Z}/p^2 oplus mathbb{Z}/p^2$. However, the answers say that other possibilities could be $mathbb{Z}/p^4$ and $mathbb{Z}/p^3 oplus mathbb{Z}/p$ and I don't see how they came with this possibility, can anyone explain this solution? Also, is my argument for why $G$ can be $mathbb{Z}/p^2 oplus mathbb{Z}/p^2$ correct? Thanks for your help!
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Use the classification of f.g. abelian groups.
– anomaly
Dec 27 '18 at 1:51
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I am trying to find for which abelian groups $G$ is there a short exact sequence.
$0 rightarrow mathbb{Z}/p^2 rightarrow G rightarrow mathbb{Z}/p^2 rightarrow 0$?
I have reasoned as follows: consider the sequence with the maps as follows $$0 xrightarrow{phi} mathbb{Z}/p^2 xrightarrow{f} G xrightarrow{g} mathbb{Z}/p^2 xrightarrow{psi} 0$$
Since we want the sequence to be exact, we need that $ker f= im(phi) = 0$ (so $f$ is injective) and we need that $im(g) = ker (psi) = mathbb{Z}/p^2$ (so $g$ is surjective). On top of that, we know that $im( f) = ker g$. Then, by the first isomorphism theorem, we know that $mathbb{Z}/p^2 / ker f = mathbb{Z}/p^2 cong im(f) = ker g$. So we know $ker g = mathbb{Z}/p^2$ and $im(g) = mathbb{Z}/p^2$. This leads me to think that one possibility for $G$ is $mathbb{Z}/p^2 oplus mathbb{Z}/p^2$. However, the answers say that other possibilities could be $mathbb{Z}/p^4$ and $mathbb{Z}/p^3 oplus mathbb{Z}/p$ and I don't see how they came with this possibility, can anyone explain this solution? Also, is my argument for why $G$ can be $mathbb{Z}/p^2 oplus mathbb{Z}/p^2$ correct? Thanks for your help!
abstract-algebra abelian-groups exact-sequence
I am trying to find for which abelian groups $G$ is there a short exact sequence.
$0 rightarrow mathbb{Z}/p^2 rightarrow G rightarrow mathbb{Z}/p^2 rightarrow 0$?
I have reasoned as follows: consider the sequence with the maps as follows $$0 xrightarrow{phi} mathbb{Z}/p^2 xrightarrow{f} G xrightarrow{g} mathbb{Z}/p^2 xrightarrow{psi} 0$$
Since we want the sequence to be exact, we need that $ker f= im(phi) = 0$ (so $f$ is injective) and we need that $im(g) = ker (psi) = mathbb{Z}/p^2$ (so $g$ is surjective). On top of that, we know that $im( f) = ker g$. Then, by the first isomorphism theorem, we know that $mathbb{Z}/p^2 / ker f = mathbb{Z}/p^2 cong im(f) = ker g$. So we know $ker g = mathbb{Z}/p^2$ and $im(g) = mathbb{Z}/p^2$. This leads me to think that one possibility for $G$ is $mathbb{Z}/p^2 oplus mathbb{Z}/p^2$. However, the answers say that other possibilities could be $mathbb{Z}/p^4$ and $mathbb{Z}/p^3 oplus mathbb{Z}/p$ and I don't see how they came with this possibility, can anyone explain this solution? Also, is my argument for why $G$ can be $mathbb{Z}/p^2 oplus mathbb{Z}/p^2$ correct? Thanks for your help!
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Use the classification of f.g. abelian groups.
– anomaly
Dec 27 '18 at 1:51
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Use the classification of f.g. abelian groups.
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Use the classification of f.g. abelian groups.
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Use the classification of f.g. abelian groups.
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This short exact sequence is a fancy way of saying that $G$ has a subgroup $H$ such that $H$ and $G / H$ are both isomorphic to $mathbb Z / p^2$.
[Think of $f$ as the embedding of $H$ into $G$, and think of $g$ as the projection of $G$ onto $G/H$. It's clear that $f$ is injective, and $g$ is surjective, and ${rm im}(f) = {rm ker}(g)$, which is what your short exact sequence says.]
For example:
$G = mathbb Z / p^2 oplus mathbb Z / p^2$, with $H$ generated by $(1, 0)$.
$G = mathbb Z / p^4$, with $H$ generated by $p^2$.
$G = mathbb Z / p^3 oplus mathbb Z / p$, with $H$ generated by $(p, 1)$.
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This short exact sequence is a fancy way of saying that $G$ has a subgroup $H$ such that $H$ and $G / H$ are both isomorphic to $mathbb Z / p^2$.
[Think of $f$ as the embedding of $H$ into $G$, and think of $g$ as the projection of $G$ onto $G/H$. It's clear that $f$ is injective, and $g$ is surjective, and ${rm im}(f) = {rm ker}(g)$, which is what your short exact sequence says.]
For example:
$G = mathbb Z / p^2 oplus mathbb Z / p^2$, with $H$ generated by $(1, 0)$.
$G = mathbb Z / p^4$, with $H$ generated by $p^2$.
$G = mathbb Z / p^3 oplus mathbb Z / p$, with $H$ generated by $(p, 1)$.
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This short exact sequence is a fancy way of saying that $G$ has a subgroup $H$ such that $H$ and $G / H$ are both isomorphic to $mathbb Z / p^2$.
[Think of $f$ as the embedding of $H$ into $G$, and think of $g$ as the projection of $G$ onto $G/H$. It's clear that $f$ is injective, and $g$ is surjective, and ${rm im}(f) = {rm ker}(g)$, which is what your short exact sequence says.]
For example:
$G = mathbb Z / p^2 oplus mathbb Z / p^2$, with $H$ generated by $(1, 0)$.
$G = mathbb Z / p^4$, with $H$ generated by $p^2$.
$G = mathbb Z / p^3 oplus mathbb Z / p$, with $H$ generated by $(p, 1)$.
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This short exact sequence is a fancy way of saying that $G$ has a subgroup $H$ such that $H$ and $G / H$ are both isomorphic to $mathbb Z / p^2$.
[Think of $f$ as the embedding of $H$ into $G$, and think of $g$ as the projection of $G$ onto $G/H$. It's clear that $f$ is injective, and $g$ is surjective, and ${rm im}(f) = {rm ker}(g)$, which is what your short exact sequence says.]
For example:
$G = mathbb Z / p^2 oplus mathbb Z / p^2$, with $H$ generated by $(1, 0)$.
$G = mathbb Z / p^4$, with $H$ generated by $p^2$.
$G = mathbb Z / p^3 oplus mathbb Z / p$, with $H$ generated by $(p, 1)$.
This short exact sequence is a fancy way of saying that $G$ has a subgroup $H$ such that $H$ and $G / H$ are both isomorphic to $mathbb Z / p^2$.
[Think of $f$ as the embedding of $H$ into $G$, and think of $g$ as the projection of $G$ onto $G/H$. It's clear that $f$ is injective, and $g$ is surjective, and ${rm im}(f) = {rm ker}(g)$, which is what your short exact sequence says.]
For example:
$G = mathbb Z / p^2 oplus mathbb Z / p^2$, with $H$ generated by $(1, 0)$.
$G = mathbb Z / p^4$, with $H$ generated by $p^2$.
$G = mathbb Z / p^3 oplus mathbb Z / p$, with $H$ generated by $(p, 1)$.
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Use the classification of f.g. abelian groups.
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