Besides the $3x + 1$ problem, for which similar problems are still unresolved regarding trayectory?












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Generalize the $3x + 1$ problem as $cx pm 1$, where $c$ is a positive odd integer and $x$ is a positive integer iterated through the function as far as possible to discover a cycle. If $x$ is even, then you halve it. But if $x$ is odd, you do either $cx + 1$ or $cx - 1$ as the case may be. (If you prefer, $c$ may be negative and you disallow $cx - 1$ for the odd branch; then $|-3x + 1|$ and $3x - 1$ are kind of the same).



With $3x - 1$ and $5x + 1$ it is somewhat well-known that many $x$ don't lead to 1, while with $3x + 1$ the question is unresolved despite intense scrutiny by many professionals and amateurs. For which other $cx pm 1$ is the question of ultimate arrival at 1 still undetermined despite study by more than a few people? I would appreciate journal articles that look at several different $cx pm 1$.










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    This answer links to a few relevant papers which I've seen the results from, showing the undecidability of a generalization. (Though, it should be noted that the generalization of the Collatz conjecture studied in the first two papers is very broad, including cases that already make me suspicious - in the Collatz conjecture we, in a loose sense, expect "evenness" and "oddness" to be random and independent of the previous trajectory, whereas the examples used in those papers explicitly violate such arguments)
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    I recall a comment of Gerry Myerson, saying that no nontrivial variant of the 3x+1-problem has a solution so far.(Unfortunately I didn't find that comment at the moment. Might be in mathoverflow or here in MSE in some questions tagged with "collatz")
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    I don't know where I wrote it, either, but I'm happy to write it here again. To the best of my knowledge, no nontrivial variant of $3x+1$ has been solved. In particular, while it is widely believed that $5x+1$ generally goes off to infinity, I don't think there is any starting value of $x$ for which it has been proved to go off to infinity.
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    I'm not sure if this is exactly what you are looking for. However, there is a similar problem: the 7x±1 problem. As in the case of Collatz problem, it is conjectured that the orbit of arbitrary positive integer always reaches the cycle passing through 1.
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    @DaBler So that would be $c = 7$ then? Thank you very much for that ArXiv link.
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Generalize the $3x + 1$ problem as $cx pm 1$, where $c$ is a positive odd integer and $x$ is a positive integer iterated through the function as far as possible to discover a cycle. If $x$ is even, then you halve it. But if $x$ is odd, you do either $cx + 1$ or $cx - 1$ as the case may be. (If you prefer, $c$ may be negative and you disallow $cx - 1$ for the odd branch; then $|-3x + 1|$ and $3x - 1$ are kind of the same).



With $3x - 1$ and $5x + 1$ it is somewhat well-known that many $x$ don't lead to 1, while with $3x + 1$ the question is unresolved despite intense scrutiny by many professionals and amateurs. For which other $cx pm 1$ is the question of ultimate arrival at 1 still undetermined despite study by more than a few people? I would appreciate journal articles that look at several different $cx pm 1$.










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    This answer links to a few relevant papers which I've seen the results from, showing the undecidability of a generalization. (Though, it should be noted that the generalization of the Collatz conjecture studied in the first two papers is very broad, including cases that already make me suspicious - in the Collatz conjecture we, in a loose sense, expect "evenness" and "oddness" to be random and independent of the previous trajectory, whereas the examples used in those papers explicitly violate such arguments)
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    I recall a comment of Gerry Myerson, saying that no nontrivial variant of the 3x+1-problem has a solution so far.(Unfortunately I didn't find that comment at the moment. Might be in mathoverflow or here in MSE in some questions tagged with "collatz")
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    I don't know where I wrote it, either, but I'm happy to write it here again. To the best of my knowledge, no nontrivial variant of $3x+1$ has been solved. In particular, while it is widely believed that $5x+1$ generally goes off to infinity, I don't think there is any starting value of $x$ for which it has been proved to go off to infinity.
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    I'm not sure if this is exactly what you are looking for. However, there is a similar problem: the 7x±1 problem. As in the case of Collatz problem, it is conjectured that the orbit of arbitrary positive integer always reaches the cycle passing through 1.
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    @DaBler So that would be $c = 7$ then? Thank you very much for that ArXiv link.
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Generalize the $3x + 1$ problem as $cx pm 1$, where $c$ is a positive odd integer and $x$ is a positive integer iterated through the function as far as possible to discover a cycle. If $x$ is even, then you halve it. But if $x$ is odd, you do either $cx + 1$ or $cx - 1$ as the case may be. (If you prefer, $c$ may be negative and you disallow $cx - 1$ for the odd branch; then $|-3x + 1|$ and $3x - 1$ are kind of the same).



With $3x - 1$ and $5x + 1$ it is somewhat well-known that many $x$ don't lead to 1, while with $3x + 1$ the question is unresolved despite intense scrutiny by many professionals and amateurs. For which other $cx pm 1$ is the question of ultimate arrival at 1 still undetermined despite study by more than a few people? I would appreciate journal articles that look at several different $cx pm 1$.










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Generalize the $3x + 1$ problem as $cx pm 1$, where $c$ is a positive odd integer and $x$ is a positive integer iterated through the function as far as possible to discover a cycle. If $x$ is even, then you halve it. But if $x$ is odd, you do either $cx + 1$ or $cx - 1$ as the case may be. (If you prefer, $c$ may be negative and you disallow $cx - 1$ for the odd branch; then $|-3x + 1|$ and $3x - 1$ are kind of the same).



With $3x - 1$ and $5x + 1$ it is somewhat well-known that many $x$ don't lead to 1, while with $3x + 1$ the question is unresolved despite intense scrutiny by many professionals and amateurs. For which other $cx pm 1$ is the question of ultimate arrival at 1 still undetermined despite study by more than a few people? I would appreciate journal articles that look at several different $cx pm 1$.







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    This answer links to a few relevant papers which I've seen the results from, showing the undecidability of a generalization. (Though, it should be noted that the generalization of the Collatz conjecture studied in the first two papers is very broad, including cases that already make me suspicious - in the Collatz conjecture we, in a loose sense, expect "evenness" and "oddness" to be random and independent of the previous trajectory, whereas the examples used in those papers explicitly violate such arguments)
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    I recall a comment of Gerry Myerson, saying that no nontrivial variant of the 3x+1-problem has a solution so far.(Unfortunately I didn't find that comment at the moment. Might be in mathoverflow or here in MSE in some questions tagged with "collatz")
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    I don't know where I wrote it, either, but I'm happy to write it here again. To the best of my knowledge, no nontrivial variant of $3x+1$ has been solved. In particular, while it is widely believed that $5x+1$ generally goes off to infinity, I don't think there is any starting value of $x$ for which it has been proved to go off to infinity.
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    – Gerry Myerson
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    I'm not sure if this is exactly what you are looking for. However, there is a similar problem: the 7x±1 problem. As in the case of Collatz problem, it is conjectured that the orbit of arbitrary positive integer always reaches the cycle passing through 1.
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    @DaBler So that would be $c = 7$ then? Thank you very much for that ArXiv link.
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    This answer links to a few relevant papers which I've seen the results from, showing the undecidability of a generalization. (Though, it should be noted that the generalization of the Collatz conjecture studied in the first two papers is very broad, including cases that already make me suspicious - in the Collatz conjecture we, in a loose sense, expect "evenness" and "oddness" to be random and independent of the previous trajectory, whereas the examples used in those papers explicitly violate such arguments)
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    I recall a comment of Gerry Myerson, saying that no nontrivial variant of the 3x+1-problem has a solution so far.(Unfortunately I didn't find that comment at the moment. Might be in mathoverflow or here in MSE in some questions tagged with "collatz")
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    I don't know where I wrote it, either, but I'm happy to write it here again. To the best of my knowledge, no nontrivial variant of $3x+1$ has been solved. In particular, while it is widely believed that $5x+1$ generally goes off to infinity, I don't think there is any starting value of $x$ for which it has been proved to go off to infinity.
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    I'm not sure if this is exactly what you are looking for. However, there is a similar problem: the 7x±1 problem. As in the case of Collatz problem, it is conjectured that the orbit of arbitrary positive integer always reaches the cycle passing through 1.
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    @DaBler So that would be $c = 7$ then? Thank you very much for that ArXiv link.
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This answer links to a few relevant papers which I've seen the results from, showing the undecidability of a generalization. (Though, it should be noted that the generalization of the Collatz conjecture studied in the first two papers is very broad, including cases that already make me suspicious - in the Collatz conjecture we, in a loose sense, expect "evenness" and "oddness" to be random and independent of the previous trajectory, whereas the examples used in those papers explicitly violate such arguments)
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This answer links to a few relevant papers which I've seen the results from, showing the undecidability of a generalization. (Though, it should be noted that the generalization of the Collatz conjecture studied in the first two papers is very broad, including cases that already make me suspicious - in the Collatz conjecture we, in a loose sense, expect "evenness" and "oddness" to be random and independent of the previous trajectory, whereas the examples used in those papers explicitly violate such arguments)
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I recall a comment of Gerry Myerson, saying that no nontrivial variant of the 3x+1-problem has a solution so far.(Unfortunately I didn't find that comment at the moment. Might be in mathoverflow or here in MSE in some questions tagged with "collatz")
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I recall a comment of Gerry Myerson, saying that no nontrivial variant of the 3x+1-problem has a solution so far.(Unfortunately I didn't find that comment at the moment. Might be in mathoverflow or here in MSE in some questions tagged with "collatz")
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I don't know where I wrote it, either, but I'm happy to write it here again. To the best of my knowledge, no nontrivial variant of $3x+1$ has been solved. In particular, while it is widely believed that $5x+1$ generally goes off to infinity, I don't think there is any starting value of $x$ for which it has been proved to go off to infinity.
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I don't know where I wrote it, either, but I'm happy to write it here again. To the best of my knowledge, no nontrivial variant of $3x+1$ has been solved. In particular, while it is widely believed that $5x+1$ generally goes off to infinity, I don't think there is any starting value of $x$ for which it has been proved to go off to infinity.
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I'm not sure if this is exactly what you are looking for. However, there is a similar problem: the 7x±1 problem. As in the case of Collatz problem, it is conjectured that the orbit of arbitrary positive integer always reaches the cycle passing through 1.
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I'm not sure if this is exactly what you are looking for. However, there is a similar problem: the 7x±1 problem. As in the case of Collatz problem, it is conjectured that the orbit of arbitrary positive integer always reaches the cycle passing through 1.
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@DaBler So that would be $c = 7$ then? Thank you very much for that ArXiv link.
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I've done some search for this question and arrived at the following (listing only the odd numbers in an orbit):


  • All $c$ of the form $c=2^C-1= {3,7,15,31,63,....}$ have a "trivial cycle" at $1 to 1$.

  • All $c$ of the form $c=2^C+1= {3,5,9,17,33,....}$ have a "trivial cycle" at $-1 to -1$.

  • $c=3$ has some extra cycles in the negative numbers, I've found none other than that known for instance in wikipedia

  • $c=5$ has some extra cycles in the positive numbers, I've found only the two well known ones ($17 to 43 to 27 to 17 $ and $13 to 33 to 83 to 13 $ )

  • $c=181$ ( $=lceil 2^{15/2} rceil-1$ ) has two cycles $27to 611to 27$ and $35 to 99 to 35$


I've searched in two modes : all odd numbers up to 9999 for $c$ checking possible cycle-lengthes up to 100 ; possible cycle lengthes up to 1000 (I think, have it not at hand at the moment) and optimal $c$ using the convergents of continued fractions excluding even extremely high $c$ requiring elements of a possible cycle $a_k$ below some upper bound taken by some formula depending on $c$ and projected cyclelength.



I've even taken negative values for $c$ and found some more cycles on small numbers but have it not at hand at the moment (but see some recent MSE-answer of mine)






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    Here are some references to the problem $qx+1$, for example:




    • R.Steiner. On the "$QX+1$ problem", $Q$ odd.. Fibonacci Quarterly, 19(3), (1981), 285-288

    • R.Steiner. On the "$QX+1$ problem", $Q$ odd. II. Fibonacci Quarterly, 19(4), (1981), 293-296


    Author shows that for $q=5$ there is only one non-trivial cycle ($13to 208 to 13$), while for $q=7$ there are no non-trivial cycles.




    • R. E. Crandall. On the "$3x+1$" Problem. Mathematics of Computation, 32, (1978), 1281-1292.


    Here Crandall conjectured that for all $q geq 5$, there always exist some $n$ that never iterate to $1$.




    • Z. Franco and C. Pomerance. On a Conjecture of Crandall concerning the $px+1$ Problem. Mathematics of Computation, 64(211), (1995), 1333-1336.


    Here they show that Crandall conjecture is true if $q$ is a Wieferich number.



    For exhaustive references on the problem I recommend to check The Ultimate Challenge: The $3x+1$ Problem by Jeffrey C. Lagarias. Point of the book is to summarize all results and references to the problem, so it seems a good place to start (the references for $qx+1$ are taken from there).






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      This is not correct: Steiner demonstrates the nonexistence of circuits--cycles of a special form.
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    Here is one:



    Consider the following operation on an arbitrary positive integer:



    If the number is divisible by 12, divide it by 12.



    If the number is divisible by 10, divide it by 10.



    If the number is divisible by 8, divide it by 8.



    If the number is divisible by 6, divide it by 6.



    If the number is divisible by 4, divide it by 4.



    If the number is divisible by 2, divide it by 2.



    If the number is odd, multiply it by 5 and add 1.



    The tests should be performed in this order.



    The conjecture is: This process will eventually reach the number 1, regardless of which positive integer is chosen initially.



    This can be tested by running this simple python script:



    #!/usr/bin/python

    for i in range(2,1000):
    x = i
    while x != 1:
    print "{0}, ".format(x),
    if x % 12 == 0:
    x = x / 12
    elif x % 10 == 0:
    x = x / 10
    elif x % 8 == 0:
    x = x / 8
    elif x % 6 == 0:
    x = x / 6
    elif x % 4 == 0:
    x = x / 4
    elif x % 2 == 0:
    x = x / 2
    else:
    x = 5 * x + 1
    print "n"





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      upps:[update] I've just recently given the same answer in this question, maybe I'd delete this or the other one




      I've done some search for this question and arrived at the following (listing only the odd numbers in an orbit):


      • All $c$ of the form $c=2^C-1= {3,7,15,31,63,....}$ have a "trivial cycle" at $1 to 1$.

      • All $c$ of the form $c=2^C+1= {3,5,9,17,33,....}$ have a "trivial cycle" at $-1 to -1$.

      • $c=3$ has some extra cycles in the negative numbers, I've found none other than that known for instance in wikipedia

      • $c=5$ has some extra cycles in the positive numbers, I've found only the two well known ones ($17 to 43 to 27 to 17 $ and $13 to 33 to 83 to 13 $ )

      • $c=181$ ( $=lceil 2^{15/2} rceil-1$ ) has two cycles $27to 611to 27$ and $35 to 99 to 35$


      I've searched in two modes : all odd numbers up to 9999 for $c$ checking possible cycle-lengthes up to 100 ; possible cycle lengthes up to 1000 (I think, have it not at hand at the moment) and optimal $c$ using the convergents of continued fractions excluding even extremely high $c$ requiring elements of a possible cycle $a_k$ below some upper bound taken by some formula depending on $c$ and projected cyclelength.



      I've even taken negative values for $c$ and found some more cycles on small numbers but have it not at hand at the moment (but see some recent MSE-answer of mine)






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        upps:[update] I've just recently given the same answer in this question, maybe I'd delete this or the other one




        I've done some search for this question and arrived at the following (listing only the odd numbers in an orbit):


        • All $c$ of the form $c=2^C-1= {3,7,15,31,63,....}$ have a "trivial cycle" at $1 to 1$.

        • All $c$ of the form $c=2^C+1= {3,5,9,17,33,....}$ have a "trivial cycle" at $-1 to -1$.

        • $c=3$ has some extra cycles in the negative numbers, I've found none other than that known for instance in wikipedia

        • $c=5$ has some extra cycles in the positive numbers, I've found only the two well known ones ($17 to 43 to 27 to 17 $ and $13 to 33 to 83 to 13 $ )

        • $c=181$ ( $=lceil 2^{15/2} rceil-1$ ) has two cycles $27to 611to 27$ and $35 to 99 to 35$


        I've searched in two modes : all odd numbers up to 9999 for $c$ checking possible cycle-lengthes up to 100 ; possible cycle lengthes up to 1000 (I think, have it not at hand at the moment) and optimal $c$ using the convergents of continued fractions excluding even extremely high $c$ requiring elements of a possible cycle $a_k$ below some upper bound taken by some formula depending on $c$ and projected cyclelength.



        I've even taken negative values for $c$ and found some more cycles on small numbers but have it not at hand at the moment (but see some recent MSE-answer of mine)






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          upps:[update] I've just recently given the same answer in this question, maybe I'd delete this or the other one




          I've done some search for this question and arrived at the following (listing only the odd numbers in an orbit):


          • All $c$ of the form $c=2^C-1= {3,7,15,31,63,....}$ have a "trivial cycle" at $1 to 1$.

          • All $c$ of the form $c=2^C+1= {3,5,9,17,33,....}$ have a "trivial cycle" at $-1 to -1$.

          • $c=3$ has some extra cycles in the negative numbers, I've found none other than that known for instance in wikipedia

          • $c=5$ has some extra cycles in the positive numbers, I've found only the two well known ones ($17 to 43 to 27 to 17 $ and $13 to 33 to 83 to 13 $ )

          • $c=181$ ( $=lceil 2^{15/2} rceil-1$ ) has two cycles $27to 611to 27$ and $35 to 99 to 35$


          I've searched in two modes : all odd numbers up to 9999 for $c$ checking possible cycle-lengthes up to 100 ; possible cycle lengthes up to 1000 (I think, have it not at hand at the moment) and optimal $c$ using the convergents of continued fractions excluding even extremely high $c$ requiring elements of a possible cycle $a_k$ below some upper bound taken by some formula depending on $c$ and projected cyclelength.



          I've even taken negative values for $c$ and found some more cycles on small numbers but have it not at hand at the moment (but see some recent MSE-answer of mine)






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          upps:[update] I've just recently given the same answer in this question, maybe I'd delete this or the other one




          I've done some search for this question and arrived at the following (listing only the odd numbers in an orbit):


          • All $c$ of the form $c=2^C-1= {3,7,15,31,63,....}$ have a "trivial cycle" at $1 to 1$.

          • All $c$ of the form $c=2^C+1= {3,5,9,17,33,....}$ have a "trivial cycle" at $-1 to -1$.

          • $c=3$ has some extra cycles in the negative numbers, I've found none other than that known for instance in wikipedia

          • $c=5$ has some extra cycles in the positive numbers, I've found only the two well known ones ($17 to 43 to 27 to 17 $ and $13 to 33 to 83 to 13 $ )

          • $c=181$ ( $=lceil 2^{15/2} rceil-1$ ) has two cycles $27to 611to 27$ and $35 to 99 to 35$


          I've searched in two modes : all odd numbers up to 9999 for $c$ checking possible cycle-lengthes up to 100 ; possible cycle lengthes up to 1000 (I think, have it not at hand at the moment) and optimal $c$ using the convergents of continued fractions excluding even extremely high $c$ requiring elements of a possible cycle $a_k$ below some upper bound taken by some formula depending on $c$ and projected cyclelength.



          I've even taken negative values for $c$ and found some more cycles on small numbers but have it not at hand at the moment (but see some recent MSE-answer of mine)







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          Gottfried HelmsGottfried Helms

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              $begingroup$

              Here are some references to the problem $qx+1$, for example:




              • R.Steiner. On the "$QX+1$ problem", $Q$ odd.. Fibonacci Quarterly, 19(3), (1981), 285-288

              • R.Steiner. On the "$QX+1$ problem", $Q$ odd. II. Fibonacci Quarterly, 19(4), (1981), 293-296


              Author shows that for $q=5$ there is only one non-trivial cycle ($13to 208 to 13$), while for $q=7$ there are no non-trivial cycles.




              • R. E. Crandall. On the "$3x+1$" Problem. Mathematics of Computation, 32, (1978), 1281-1292.


              Here Crandall conjectured that for all $q geq 5$, there always exist some $n$ that never iterate to $1$.




              • Z. Franco and C. Pomerance. On a Conjecture of Crandall concerning the $px+1$ Problem. Mathematics of Computation, 64(211), (1995), 1333-1336.


              Here they show that Crandall conjecture is true if $q$ is a Wieferich number.



              For exhaustive references on the problem I recommend to check The Ultimate Challenge: The $3x+1$ Problem by Jeffrey C. Lagarias. Point of the book is to summarize all results and references to the problem, so it seems a good place to start (the references for $qx+1$ are taken from there).






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              • $begingroup$
                This is not correct: Steiner demonstrates the nonexistence of circuits--cycles of a special form.
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                – rukhin
                Jan 21 at 1:28
















              2





              +250







              $begingroup$

              Here are some references to the problem $qx+1$, for example:




              • R.Steiner. On the "$QX+1$ problem", $Q$ odd.. Fibonacci Quarterly, 19(3), (1981), 285-288

              • R.Steiner. On the "$QX+1$ problem", $Q$ odd. II. Fibonacci Quarterly, 19(4), (1981), 293-296


              Author shows that for $q=5$ there is only one non-trivial cycle ($13to 208 to 13$), while for $q=7$ there are no non-trivial cycles.




              • R. E. Crandall. On the "$3x+1$" Problem. Mathematics of Computation, 32, (1978), 1281-1292.


              Here Crandall conjectured that for all $q geq 5$, there always exist some $n$ that never iterate to $1$.




              • Z. Franco and C. Pomerance. On a Conjecture of Crandall concerning the $px+1$ Problem. Mathematics of Computation, 64(211), (1995), 1333-1336.


              Here they show that Crandall conjecture is true if $q$ is a Wieferich number.



              For exhaustive references on the problem I recommend to check The Ultimate Challenge: The $3x+1$ Problem by Jeffrey C. Lagarias. Point of the book is to summarize all results and references to the problem, so it seems a good place to start (the references for $qx+1$ are taken from there).






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              • $begingroup$
                This is not correct: Steiner demonstrates the nonexistence of circuits--cycles of a special form.
                $endgroup$
                – rukhin
                Jan 21 at 1:28














              2





              +250







              2





              +250



              2




              +250



              $begingroup$

              Here are some references to the problem $qx+1$, for example:




              • R.Steiner. On the "$QX+1$ problem", $Q$ odd.. Fibonacci Quarterly, 19(3), (1981), 285-288

              • R.Steiner. On the "$QX+1$ problem", $Q$ odd. II. Fibonacci Quarterly, 19(4), (1981), 293-296


              Author shows that for $q=5$ there is only one non-trivial cycle ($13to 208 to 13$), while for $q=7$ there are no non-trivial cycles.




              • R. E. Crandall. On the "$3x+1$" Problem. Mathematics of Computation, 32, (1978), 1281-1292.


              Here Crandall conjectured that for all $q geq 5$, there always exist some $n$ that never iterate to $1$.




              • Z. Franco and C. Pomerance. On a Conjecture of Crandall concerning the $px+1$ Problem. Mathematics of Computation, 64(211), (1995), 1333-1336.


              Here they show that Crandall conjecture is true if $q$ is a Wieferich number.



              For exhaustive references on the problem I recommend to check The Ultimate Challenge: The $3x+1$ Problem by Jeffrey C. Lagarias. Point of the book is to summarize all results and references to the problem, so it seems a good place to start (the references for $qx+1$ are taken from there).






              share|cite|improve this answer









              $endgroup$



              Here are some references to the problem $qx+1$, for example:




              • R.Steiner. On the "$QX+1$ problem", $Q$ odd.. Fibonacci Quarterly, 19(3), (1981), 285-288

              • R.Steiner. On the "$QX+1$ problem", $Q$ odd. II. Fibonacci Quarterly, 19(4), (1981), 293-296


              Author shows that for $q=5$ there is only one non-trivial cycle ($13to 208 to 13$), while for $q=7$ there are no non-trivial cycles.




              • R. E. Crandall. On the "$3x+1$" Problem. Mathematics of Computation, 32, (1978), 1281-1292.


              Here Crandall conjectured that for all $q geq 5$, there always exist some $n$ that never iterate to $1$.




              • Z. Franco and C. Pomerance. On a Conjecture of Crandall concerning the $px+1$ Problem. Mathematics of Computation, 64(211), (1995), 1333-1336.


              Here they show that Crandall conjecture is true if $q$ is a Wieferich number.



              For exhaustive references on the problem I recommend to check The Ultimate Challenge: The $3x+1$ Problem by Jeffrey C. Lagarias. Point of the book is to summarize all results and references to the problem, so it seems a good place to start (the references for $qx+1$ are taken from there).







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              answered Jul 8 '18 at 16:25









              SilSil

              5,15121643




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              • $begingroup$
                This is not correct: Steiner demonstrates the nonexistence of circuits--cycles of a special form.
                $endgroup$
                – rukhin
                Jan 21 at 1:28


















              • $begingroup$
                This is not correct: Steiner demonstrates the nonexistence of circuits--cycles of a special form.
                $endgroup$
                – rukhin
                Jan 21 at 1:28
















              $begingroup$
              This is not correct: Steiner demonstrates the nonexistence of circuits--cycles of a special form.
              $endgroup$
              – rukhin
              Jan 21 at 1:28




              $begingroup$
              This is not correct: Steiner demonstrates the nonexistence of circuits--cycles of a special form.
              $endgroup$
              – rukhin
              Jan 21 at 1:28











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              Here is one:



              Consider the following operation on an arbitrary positive integer:



              If the number is divisible by 12, divide it by 12.



              If the number is divisible by 10, divide it by 10.



              If the number is divisible by 8, divide it by 8.



              If the number is divisible by 6, divide it by 6.



              If the number is divisible by 4, divide it by 4.



              If the number is divisible by 2, divide it by 2.



              If the number is odd, multiply it by 5 and add 1.



              The tests should be performed in this order.



              The conjecture is: This process will eventually reach the number 1, regardless of which positive integer is chosen initially.



              This can be tested by running this simple python script:



              #!/usr/bin/python

              for i in range(2,1000):
              x = i
              while x != 1:
              print "{0}, ".format(x),
              if x % 12 == 0:
              x = x / 12
              elif x % 10 == 0:
              x = x / 10
              elif x % 8 == 0:
              x = x / 8
              elif x % 6 == 0:
              x = x / 6
              elif x % 4 == 0:
              x = x / 4
              elif x % 2 == 0:
              x = x / 2
              else:
              x = 5 * x + 1
              print "n"





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                $begingroup$

                Here is one:



                Consider the following operation on an arbitrary positive integer:



                If the number is divisible by 12, divide it by 12.



                If the number is divisible by 10, divide it by 10.



                If the number is divisible by 8, divide it by 8.



                If the number is divisible by 6, divide it by 6.



                If the number is divisible by 4, divide it by 4.



                If the number is divisible by 2, divide it by 2.



                If the number is odd, multiply it by 5 and add 1.



                The tests should be performed in this order.



                The conjecture is: This process will eventually reach the number 1, regardless of which positive integer is chosen initially.



                This can be tested by running this simple python script:



                #!/usr/bin/python

                for i in range(2,1000):
                x = i
                while x != 1:
                print "{0}, ".format(x),
                if x % 12 == 0:
                x = x / 12
                elif x % 10 == 0:
                x = x / 10
                elif x % 8 == 0:
                x = x / 8
                elif x % 6 == 0:
                x = x / 6
                elif x % 4 == 0:
                x = x / 4
                elif x % 2 == 0:
                x = x / 2
                else:
                x = 5 * x + 1
                print "n"





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                  0












                  0








                  0





                  $begingroup$

                  Here is one:



                  Consider the following operation on an arbitrary positive integer:



                  If the number is divisible by 12, divide it by 12.



                  If the number is divisible by 10, divide it by 10.



                  If the number is divisible by 8, divide it by 8.



                  If the number is divisible by 6, divide it by 6.



                  If the number is divisible by 4, divide it by 4.



                  If the number is divisible by 2, divide it by 2.



                  If the number is odd, multiply it by 5 and add 1.



                  The tests should be performed in this order.



                  The conjecture is: This process will eventually reach the number 1, regardless of which positive integer is chosen initially.



                  This can be tested by running this simple python script:



                  #!/usr/bin/python

                  for i in range(2,1000):
                  x = i
                  while x != 1:
                  print "{0}, ".format(x),
                  if x % 12 == 0:
                  x = x / 12
                  elif x % 10 == 0:
                  x = x / 10
                  elif x % 8 == 0:
                  x = x / 8
                  elif x % 6 == 0:
                  x = x / 6
                  elif x % 4 == 0:
                  x = x / 4
                  elif x % 2 == 0:
                  x = x / 2
                  else:
                  x = 5 * x + 1
                  print "n"





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                  $endgroup$



                  Here is one:



                  Consider the following operation on an arbitrary positive integer:



                  If the number is divisible by 12, divide it by 12.



                  If the number is divisible by 10, divide it by 10.



                  If the number is divisible by 8, divide it by 8.



                  If the number is divisible by 6, divide it by 6.



                  If the number is divisible by 4, divide it by 4.



                  If the number is divisible by 2, divide it by 2.



                  If the number is odd, multiply it by 5 and add 1.



                  The tests should be performed in this order.



                  The conjecture is: This process will eventually reach the number 1, regardless of which positive integer is chosen initially.



                  This can be tested by running this simple python script:



                  #!/usr/bin/python

                  for i in range(2,1000):
                  x = i
                  while x != 1:
                  print "{0}, ".format(x),
                  if x % 12 == 0:
                  x = x / 12
                  elif x % 10 == 0:
                  x = x / 10
                  elif x % 8 == 0:
                  x = x / 8
                  elif x % 6 == 0:
                  x = x / 6
                  elif x % 4 == 0:
                  x = x / 4
                  elif x % 2 == 0:
                  x = x / 2
                  else:
                  x = 5 * x + 1
                  print "n"






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