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If the quantity $P=frac{1}{a}+frac{1}{b} $ must always be the same for different combinations of the values of the two variables, then is it correct to state that the quantity $Q=a+b$ is also conserved?










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          No. For example, take the pairs $(a, b)=(1,1)$ and $(a,b)=(2,frac 2 3)$. Both pairs satisfy $P=frac{1}{a}+frac{1}{b}=2$, but for the first pair $Q=1+1=2$ while for the second pair, $Q=2+frac 2 3=frac 8 3$.






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            No, suppose that it is conserved. Then, $$ab=frac{Q}{P}$$
            is also conserved. But, in that case, $a$ and $b$ are also fixed, being the roots of $$x^2-(a+b)x+ab=0$$
            i.e. $$x^2-Qx+frac{Q}{P}=0$$



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              Let the quantity



              $$frac{1}{a}+frac{1}{b}=frac{a+b}{ab}=X$$



              Then



              $$a+b=abX$$



              If $a+b$ is to be conserved, then we must have



              $$a+b=abX:=-BRightarrow ab=frac{-B}{X}:=C$$



              And so $ab$ is also conserved.



              Thus $a$ and $b$ are roots of the quadratic equation



              $$x^2+Bx+C=0$$



              where $B$ and $C$ are fixed constants.
              Thus $a$ and $b$ are fixed numbers and not variable. We have a contradiction.






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                No. For example, take the pairs $(a, b)=(1,1)$ and $(a,b)=(2,frac 2 3)$. Both pairs satisfy $P=frac{1}{a}+frac{1}{b}=2$, but for the first pair $Q=1+1=2$ while for the second pair, $Q=2+frac 2 3=frac 8 3$.






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                  No. For example, take the pairs $(a, b)=(1,1)$ and $(a,b)=(2,frac 2 3)$. Both pairs satisfy $P=frac{1}{a}+frac{1}{b}=2$, but for the first pair $Q=1+1=2$ while for the second pair, $Q=2+frac 2 3=frac 8 3$.






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                    No. For example, take the pairs $(a, b)=(1,1)$ and $(a,b)=(2,frac 2 3)$. Both pairs satisfy $P=frac{1}{a}+frac{1}{b}=2$, but for the first pair $Q=1+1=2$ while for the second pair, $Q=2+frac 2 3=frac 8 3$.






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                    No. For example, take the pairs $(a, b)=(1,1)$ and $(a,b)=(2,frac 2 3)$. Both pairs satisfy $P=frac{1}{a}+frac{1}{b}=2$, but for the first pair $Q=1+1=2$ while for the second pair, $Q=2+frac 2 3=frac 8 3$.







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                        No, suppose that it is conserved. Then, $$ab=frac{Q}{P}$$
                        is also conserved. But, in that case, $a$ and $b$ are also fixed, being the roots of $$x^2-(a+b)x+ab=0$$
                        i.e. $$x^2-Qx+frac{Q}{P}=0$$



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                          No, suppose that it is conserved. Then, $$ab=frac{Q}{P}$$
                          is also conserved. But, in that case, $a$ and $b$ are also fixed, being the roots of $$x^2-(a+b)x+ab=0$$
                          i.e. $$x^2-Qx+frac{Q}{P}=0$$



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                            No, suppose that it is conserved. Then, $$ab=frac{Q}{P}$$
                            is also conserved. But, in that case, $a$ and $b$ are also fixed, being the roots of $$x^2-(a+b)x+ab=0$$
                            i.e. $$x^2-Qx+frac{Q}{P}=0$$



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                            No, suppose that it is conserved. Then, $$ab=frac{Q}{P}$$
                            is also conserved. But, in that case, $a$ and $b$ are also fixed, being the roots of $$x^2-(a+b)x+ab=0$$
                            i.e. $$x^2-Qx+frac{Q}{P}=0$$



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                                Let the quantity



                                $$frac{1}{a}+frac{1}{b}=frac{a+b}{ab}=X$$



                                Then



                                $$a+b=abX$$



                                If $a+b$ is to be conserved, then we must have



                                $$a+b=abX:=-BRightarrow ab=frac{-B}{X}:=C$$



                                And so $ab$ is also conserved.



                                Thus $a$ and $b$ are roots of the quadratic equation



                                $$x^2+Bx+C=0$$



                                where $B$ and $C$ are fixed constants.
                                Thus $a$ and $b$ are fixed numbers and not variable. We have a contradiction.






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                                  Let the quantity



                                  $$frac{1}{a}+frac{1}{b}=frac{a+b}{ab}=X$$



                                  Then



                                  $$a+b=abX$$



                                  If $a+b$ is to be conserved, then we must have



                                  $$a+b=abX:=-BRightarrow ab=frac{-B}{X}:=C$$



                                  And so $ab$ is also conserved.



                                  Thus $a$ and $b$ are roots of the quadratic equation



                                  $$x^2+Bx+C=0$$



                                  where $B$ and $C$ are fixed constants.
                                  Thus $a$ and $b$ are fixed numbers and not variable. We have a contradiction.






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                                    Let the quantity



                                    $$frac{1}{a}+frac{1}{b}=frac{a+b}{ab}=X$$



                                    Then



                                    $$a+b=abX$$



                                    If $a+b$ is to be conserved, then we must have



                                    $$a+b=abX:=-BRightarrow ab=frac{-B}{X}:=C$$



                                    And so $ab$ is also conserved.



                                    Thus $a$ and $b$ are roots of the quadratic equation



                                    $$x^2+Bx+C=0$$



                                    where $B$ and $C$ are fixed constants.
                                    Thus $a$ and $b$ are fixed numbers and not variable. We have a contradiction.






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                                    Let the quantity



                                    $$frac{1}{a}+frac{1}{b}=frac{a+b}{ab}=X$$



                                    Then



                                    $$a+b=abX$$



                                    If $a+b$ is to be conserved, then we must have



                                    $$a+b=abX:=-BRightarrow ab=frac{-B}{X}:=C$$



                                    And so $ab$ is also conserved.



                                    Thus $a$ and $b$ are roots of the quadratic equation



                                    $$x^2+Bx+C=0$$



                                    where $B$ and $C$ are fixed constants.
                                    Thus $a$ and $b$ are fixed numbers and not variable. We have a contradiction.







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