What is the operator norm of $Tf(x) = x^2f(x)$?
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Let $H = L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})$ and $T : H to H,, Tf(x) = x^2f(x) $.
$T$ is linear.
$$|Tf|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} = sqrt{int_0^1x^4f^2(x)dx} leqsqrt{int_0^1f^2(x)dx} = |f|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} $$
$T$ is linear and bounded therefore it's continuous. Also
$|T|| leq 1$.
I tried finding solution to $|Tf|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} = |f|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} $
I found $$f(x) = sqrt{frac{2x-1}{x^4-1}}$$
but it's not in $L^2$ so it doesn't work.
anyone knows an $f$ to reach $1$, I'm not even sure it's $1$.
any help will be greatly appreciated !
functional-analysis operator-theory hilbert-spaces norm lp-spaces
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Let $H = L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})$ and $T : H to H,, Tf(x) = x^2f(x) $.
$T$ is linear.
$$|Tf|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} = sqrt{int_0^1x^4f^2(x)dx} leqsqrt{int_0^1f^2(x)dx} = |f|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} $$
$T$ is linear and bounded therefore it's continuous. Also
$|T|| leq 1$.
I tried finding solution to $|Tf|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} = |f|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} $
I found $$f(x) = sqrt{frac{2x-1}{x^4-1}}$$
but it's not in $L^2$ so it doesn't work.
anyone knows an $f$ to reach $1$, I'm not even sure it's $1$.
any help will be greatly appreciated !
functional-analysis operator-theory hilbert-spaces norm lp-spaces
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Hint: take $f=1_{[a,1]}$ where $a < 1$ is a positive real number close to $1$.
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– Mindlack
Jan 7 at 18:16
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The answers below are fine, but one may add, that the approach by the OP can't work since there is no $L^2$ function for which the norm is attained.
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– Dirk
Jan 7 at 18:31
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Let $H = L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})$ and $T : H to H,, Tf(x) = x^2f(x) $.
$T$ is linear.
$$|Tf|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} = sqrt{int_0^1x^4f^2(x)dx} leqsqrt{int_0^1f^2(x)dx} = |f|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} $$
$T$ is linear and bounded therefore it's continuous. Also
$|T|| leq 1$.
I tried finding solution to $|Tf|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} = |f|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} $
I found $$f(x) = sqrt{frac{2x-1}{x^4-1}}$$
but it's not in $L^2$ so it doesn't work.
anyone knows an $f$ to reach $1$, I'm not even sure it's $1$.
any help will be greatly appreciated !
functional-analysis operator-theory hilbert-spaces norm lp-spaces
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Let $H = L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})$ and $T : H to H,, Tf(x) = x^2f(x) $.
$T$ is linear.
$$|Tf|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} = sqrt{int_0^1x^4f^2(x)dx} leqsqrt{int_0^1f^2(x)dx} = |f|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} $$
$T$ is linear and bounded therefore it's continuous. Also
$|T|| leq 1$.
I tried finding solution to $|Tf|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} = |f|_{L^2([0,1],mathbb{R})} $
I found $$f(x) = sqrt{frac{2x-1}{x^4-1}}$$
but it's not in $L^2$ so it doesn't work.
anyone knows an $f$ to reach $1$, I'm not even sure it's $1$.
any help will be greatly appreciated !
functional-analysis operator-theory hilbert-spaces norm lp-spaces
functional-analysis operator-theory hilbert-spaces norm lp-spaces
edited Jan 8 at 9:30
Davide Giraudo
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asked Jan 7 at 18:09
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Hint: take $f=1_{[a,1]}$ where $a < 1$ is a positive real number close to $1$.
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– Mindlack
Jan 7 at 18:16
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The answers below are fine, but one may add, that the approach by the OP can't work since there is no $L^2$ function for which the norm is attained.
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– Dirk
Jan 7 at 18:31
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1
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Hint: take $f=1_{[a,1]}$ where $a < 1$ is a positive real number close to $1$.
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– Mindlack
Jan 7 at 18:16
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The answers below are fine, but one may add, that the approach by the OP can't work since there is no $L^2$ function for which the norm is attained.
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– Dirk
Jan 7 at 18:31
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Hint: take $f=1_{[a,1]}$ where $a < 1$ is a positive real number close to $1$.
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– Mindlack
Jan 7 at 18:16
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Hint: take $f=1_{[a,1]}$ where $a < 1$ is a positive real number close to $1$.
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– Mindlack
Jan 7 at 18:16
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The answers below are fine, but one may add, that the approach by the OP can't work since there is no $L^2$ function for which the norm is attained.
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– Dirk
Jan 7 at 18:31
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The answers below are fine, but one may add, that the approach by the OP can't work since there is no $L^2$ function for which the norm is attained.
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– Dirk
Jan 7 at 18:31
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Consider $f_n(x)=x^n$ for $ninBbb N$.
Then $$|f_n|_2=sqrt{frac1{2n+1}}$$
and
$$|Tf_n|_2=sqrt{frac1{2n+5}}$$
Since
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{|Tf_n|_2}{|f_n|_2}=1$$
we have that $|T|ge1$.
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Multiplication by $x^2$ on $[0,1]$. $T$ is a self-adjoint operator. The essential range of the multiplier $x^2$ is $[0,1]$, so the spectrum of $T$ is $[0,1]$. The spectral radius of $T$ is $1$, and (since $T$ is self-adjoint), the norm of $T$ is $1$.
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As Dirk notes, there is no $f$ where the norm is attained. Here, we can see: $1$ is in the spectrum of $T$, but is not an eigenvalue of $T$.
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– GEdgar
Jan 8 at 14:24
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Consider $f_n(x)=x^n$ for $ninBbb N$.
Then $$|f_n|_2=sqrt{frac1{2n+1}}$$
and
$$|Tf_n|_2=sqrt{frac1{2n+5}}$$
Since
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{|Tf_n|_2}{|f_n|_2}=1$$
we have that $|T|ge1$.
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Consider $f_n(x)=x^n$ for $ninBbb N$.
Then $$|f_n|_2=sqrt{frac1{2n+1}}$$
and
$$|Tf_n|_2=sqrt{frac1{2n+5}}$$
Since
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{|Tf_n|_2}{|f_n|_2}=1$$
we have that $|T|ge1$.
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add a comment |
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Consider $f_n(x)=x^n$ for $ninBbb N$.
Then $$|f_n|_2=sqrt{frac1{2n+1}}$$
and
$$|Tf_n|_2=sqrt{frac1{2n+5}}$$
Since
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{|Tf_n|_2}{|f_n|_2}=1$$
we have that $|T|ge1$.
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Consider $f_n(x)=x^n$ for $ninBbb N$.
Then $$|f_n|_2=sqrt{frac1{2n+1}}$$
and
$$|Tf_n|_2=sqrt{frac1{2n+5}}$$
Since
$$lim_{ntoinfty}frac{|Tf_n|_2}{|f_n|_2}=1$$
we have that $|T|ge1$.
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answered Jan 7 at 18:16
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Multiplication by $x^2$ on $[0,1]$. $T$ is a self-adjoint operator. The essential range of the multiplier $x^2$ is $[0,1]$, so the spectrum of $T$ is $[0,1]$. The spectral radius of $T$ is $1$, and (since $T$ is self-adjoint), the norm of $T$ is $1$.
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As Dirk notes, there is no $f$ where the norm is attained. Here, we can see: $1$ is in the spectrum of $T$, but is not an eigenvalue of $T$.
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– GEdgar
Jan 8 at 14:24
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Multiplication by $x^2$ on $[0,1]$. $T$ is a self-adjoint operator. The essential range of the multiplier $x^2$ is $[0,1]$, so the spectrum of $T$ is $[0,1]$. The spectral radius of $T$ is $1$, and (since $T$ is self-adjoint), the norm of $T$ is $1$.
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As Dirk notes, there is no $f$ where the norm is attained. Here, we can see: $1$ is in the spectrum of $T$, but is not an eigenvalue of $T$.
$endgroup$
– GEdgar
Jan 8 at 14:24
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Multiplication by $x^2$ on $[0,1]$. $T$ is a self-adjoint operator. The essential range of the multiplier $x^2$ is $[0,1]$, so the spectrum of $T$ is $[0,1]$. The spectral radius of $T$ is $1$, and (since $T$ is self-adjoint), the norm of $T$ is $1$.
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Multiplication by $x^2$ on $[0,1]$. $T$ is a self-adjoint operator. The essential range of the multiplier $x^2$ is $[0,1]$, so the spectrum of $T$ is $[0,1]$. The spectral radius of $T$ is $1$, and (since $T$ is self-adjoint), the norm of $T$ is $1$.
answered Jan 7 at 18:17
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As Dirk notes, there is no $f$ where the norm is attained. Here, we can see: $1$ is in the spectrum of $T$, but is not an eigenvalue of $T$.
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– GEdgar
Jan 8 at 14:24
add a comment |
$begingroup$
As Dirk notes, there is no $f$ where the norm is attained. Here, we can see: $1$ is in the spectrum of $T$, but is not an eigenvalue of $T$.
$endgroup$
– GEdgar
Jan 8 at 14:24
$begingroup$
As Dirk notes, there is no $f$ where the norm is attained. Here, we can see: $1$ is in the spectrum of $T$, but is not an eigenvalue of $T$.
$endgroup$
– GEdgar
Jan 8 at 14:24
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As Dirk notes, there is no $f$ where the norm is attained. Here, we can see: $1$ is in the spectrum of $T$, but is not an eigenvalue of $T$.
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– GEdgar
Jan 8 at 14:24
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Hint: take $f=1_{[a,1]}$ where $a < 1$ is a positive real number close to $1$.
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The answers below are fine, but one may add, that the approach by the OP can't work since there is no $L^2$ function for which the norm is attained.
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– Dirk
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