Global extremas of $f(x,y)=2x^2+2y^2+2xy+4x-y$ on the region $xleq 0, ygeq 0, yleq x+3$
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I have the following two variable function $f(x,y)=2x^2+2y^2+2xy+4x-y$ and I need to find its global extremas on the region $xleq 0, ygeq 0, yleq x+3$.
As in the other questions I asked in the last days, I have no solution to this old exam question so I would like your feedback on wether my results are correct or not.
In the inside of our domain, we have :
$$f_x=4x+2y+4=0$$
$$f_y=4y+2x-1=0$$
So $y=1$ and $x=frac{-3}{2}$ . This point lies in our domain so it is a candidate.
On the border, we have $$f(x, 0)=2x^2+4x, f'=4x+4 = 0 $$ so $x=-1$
We also have $$f(0,y)=2y^2-y, f'=4y-1=0$$ so $y=frac{1}{4}$
And $$f(x, x+3)=2x^2+2(x+3)^2+2x(x+3)+4x-(x+3), f'=3(4x+7)=0$$ (WolframAlpha gets the same derivative for this $f(x,x+3)$). So we get $x=-frac{7}{4}, y=x+3=frac{5}{4}$
Now, we also have our endpoints $(-3,0), (0,3), (0,0)$
Now we plug each of our candidate into our function and look for the greatest/ smallest value which will be our global maximum/ minimum.
$(-frac{3}{2},1) : -frac{7}{2}$
$(-1,0):-2$
$(0,frac{1}{4}) : - frac{1}{8}$
$(- frac{7}{4}, frac{5}{4}) : - frac{27}{8}$
$(-3,0) : 6$
$(0,0) : 0$
$(0,3) : 15$
So there seems to be a global maximum of $15$ at $(0,3)$ and a global minimum of $- frac{7}{2}$ at $(- frac{3}{2},1)$.
Are my results correct or did I miss/ forgot something ?
Also, this problem took me quite some time. Not enormously, but still. Is there a shortcut or a better way to proceed to see that the function actually reaches its global maximum at one of the endpoints and its minimum at $(- frac{3}{2}, 1)$ ?
Thanks for your feedback !
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I have the following two variable function $f(x,y)=2x^2+2y^2+2xy+4x-y$ and I need to find its global extremas on the region $xleq 0, ygeq 0, yleq x+3$.
As in the other questions I asked in the last days, I have no solution to this old exam question so I would like your feedback on wether my results are correct or not.
In the inside of our domain, we have :
$$f_x=4x+2y+4=0$$
$$f_y=4y+2x-1=0$$
So $y=1$ and $x=frac{-3}{2}$ . This point lies in our domain so it is a candidate.
On the border, we have $$f(x, 0)=2x^2+4x, f'=4x+4 = 0 $$ so $x=-1$
We also have $$f(0,y)=2y^2-y, f'=4y-1=0$$ so $y=frac{1}{4}$
And $$f(x, x+3)=2x^2+2(x+3)^2+2x(x+3)+4x-(x+3), f'=3(4x+7)=0$$ (WolframAlpha gets the same derivative for this $f(x,x+3)$). So we get $x=-frac{7}{4}, y=x+3=frac{5}{4}$
Now, we also have our endpoints $(-3,0), (0,3), (0,0)$
Now we plug each of our candidate into our function and look for the greatest/ smallest value which will be our global maximum/ minimum.
$(-frac{3}{2},1) : -frac{7}{2}$
$(-1,0):-2$
$(0,frac{1}{4}) : - frac{1}{8}$
$(- frac{7}{4}, frac{5}{4}) : - frac{27}{8}$
$(-3,0) : 6$
$(0,0) : 0$
$(0,3) : 15$
So there seems to be a global maximum of $15$ at $(0,3)$ and a global minimum of $- frac{7}{2}$ at $(- frac{3}{2},1)$.
Are my results correct or did I miss/ forgot something ?
Also, this problem took me quite some time. Not enormously, but still. Is there a shortcut or a better way to proceed to see that the function actually reaches its global maximum at one of the endpoints and its minimum at $(- frac{3}{2}, 1)$ ?
Thanks for your feedback !
real-analysis calculus analysis multivariable-calculus optimization
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It is helpful to note that $$f(x,y)= (x+y)^2+(x+2)^2+(y-1/2)^2 - frac{17}{4}$$ This shows that the function is bounded below, thus it has a minimum on the whole $Bbb R^2$.
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– Crostul
Jan 7 at 17:40
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I have only found a minimum, $$-frac{1}{8}$$ for $$x=0,y=frac{1}{4}$$
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Jan 7 at 17:41
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Yes, you are right, $-3.5leq f(x,y)leq15.$ There is solution without derivatives.
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– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 7 at 17:51
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I know this can be pedantic (sorry), but extrema is the plural form of extremum, so "extremas" should be avoided.
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– Patricio
Jan 7 at 18:00
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@Dr.SonnhardGraubner Are you sure that you didn't just check one of the border and not the other ones nor the inside ?
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– Poujh
Jan 7 at 18:26
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I have the following two variable function $f(x,y)=2x^2+2y^2+2xy+4x-y$ and I need to find its global extremas on the region $xleq 0, ygeq 0, yleq x+3$.
As in the other questions I asked in the last days, I have no solution to this old exam question so I would like your feedback on wether my results are correct or not.
In the inside of our domain, we have :
$$f_x=4x+2y+4=0$$
$$f_y=4y+2x-1=0$$
So $y=1$ and $x=frac{-3}{2}$ . This point lies in our domain so it is a candidate.
On the border, we have $$f(x, 0)=2x^2+4x, f'=4x+4 = 0 $$ so $x=-1$
We also have $$f(0,y)=2y^2-y, f'=4y-1=0$$ so $y=frac{1}{4}$
And $$f(x, x+3)=2x^2+2(x+3)^2+2x(x+3)+4x-(x+3), f'=3(4x+7)=0$$ (WolframAlpha gets the same derivative for this $f(x,x+3)$). So we get $x=-frac{7}{4}, y=x+3=frac{5}{4}$
Now, we also have our endpoints $(-3,0), (0,3), (0,0)$
Now we plug each of our candidate into our function and look for the greatest/ smallest value which will be our global maximum/ minimum.
$(-frac{3}{2},1) : -frac{7}{2}$
$(-1,0):-2$
$(0,frac{1}{4}) : - frac{1}{8}$
$(- frac{7}{4}, frac{5}{4}) : - frac{27}{8}$
$(-3,0) : 6$
$(0,0) : 0$
$(0,3) : 15$
So there seems to be a global maximum of $15$ at $(0,3)$ and a global minimum of $- frac{7}{2}$ at $(- frac{3}{2},1)$.
Are my results correct or did I miss/ forgot something ?
Also, this problem took me quite some time. Not enormously, but still. Is there a shortcut or a better way to proceed to see that the function actually reaches its global maximum at one of the endpoints and its minimum at $(- frac{3}{2}, 1)$ ?
Thanks for your feedback !
real-analysis calculus analysis multivariable-calculus optimization
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I have the following two variable function $f(x,y)=2x^2+2y^2+2xy+4x-y$ and I need to find its global extremas on the region $xleq 0, ygeq 0, yleq x+3$.
As in the other questions I asked in the last days, I have no solution to this old exam question so I would like your feedback on wether my results are correct or not.
In the inside of our domain, we have :
$$f_x=4x+2y+4=0$$
$$f_y=4y+2x-1=0$$
So $y=1$ and $x=frac{-3}{2}$ . This point lies in our domain so it is a candidate.
On the border, we have $$f(x, 0)=2x^2+4x, f'=4x+4 = 0 $$ so $x=-1$
We also have $$f(0,y)=2y^2-y, f'=4y-1=0$$ so $y=frac{1}{4}$
And $$f(x, x+3)=2x^2+2(x+3)^2+2x(x+3)+4x-(x+3), f'=3(4x+7)=0$$ (WolframAlpha gets the same derivative for this $f(x,x+3)$). So we get $x=-frac{7}{4}, y=x+3=frac{5}{4}$
Now, we also have our endpoints $(-3,0), (0,3), (0,0)$
Now we plug each of our candidate into our function and look for the greatest/ smallest value which will be our global maximum/ minimum.
$(-frac{3}{2},1) : -frac{7}{2}$
$(-1,0):-2$
$(0,frac{1}{4}) : - frac{1}{8}$
$(- frac{7}{4}, frac{5}{4}) : - frac{27}{8}$
$(-3,0) : 6$
$(0,0) : 0$
$(0,3) : 15$
So there seems to be a global maximum of $15$ at $(0,3)$ and a global minimum of $- frac{7}{2}$ at $(- frac{3}{2},1)$.
Are my results correct or did I miss/ forgot something ?
Also, this problem took me quite some time. Not enormously, but still. Is there a shortcut or a better way to proceed to see that the function actually reaches its global maximum at one of the endpoints and its minimum at $(- frac{3}{2}, 1)$ ?
Thanks for your feedback !
real-analysis calculus analysis multivariable-calculus optimization
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It is helpful to note that $$f(x,y)= (x+y)^2+(x+2)^2+(y-1/2)^2 - frac{17}{4}$$ This shows that the function is bounded below, thus it has a minimum on the whole $Bbb R^2$.
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– Crostul
Jan 7 at 17:40
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I have only found a minimum, $$-frac{1}{8}$$ for $$x=0,y=frac{1}{4}$$
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Jan 7 at 17:41
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Yes, you are right, $-3.5leq f(x,y)leq15.$ There is solution without derivatives.
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– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 7 at 17:51
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I know this can be pedantic (sorry), but extrema is the plural form of extremum, so "extremas" should be avoided.
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– Patricio
Jan 7 at 18:00
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@Dr.SonnhardGraubner Are you sure that you didn't just check one of the border and not the other ones nor the inside ?
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– Poujh
Jan 7 at 18:26
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It is helpful to note that $$f(x,y)= (x+y)^2+(x+2)^2+(y-1/2)^2 - frac{17}{4}$$ This shows that the function is bounded below, thus it has a minimum on the whole $Bbb R^2$.
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– Crostul
Jan 7 at 17:40
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I have only found a minimum, $$-frac{1}{8}$$ for $$x=0,y=frac{1}{4}$$
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Jan 7 at 17:41
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Yes, you are right, $-3.5leq f(x,y)leq15.$ There is solution without derivatives.
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– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 7 at 17:51
1
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I know this can be pedantic (sorry), but extrema is the plural form of extremum, so "extremas" should be avoided.
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– Patricio
Jan 7 at 18:00
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@Dr.SonnhardGraubner Are you sure that you didn't just check one of the border and not the other ones nor the inside ?
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– Poujh
Jan 7 at 18:26
2
2
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It is helpful to note that $$f(x,y)= (x+y)^2+(x+2)^2+(y-1/2)^2 - frac{17}{4}$$ This shows that the function is bounded below, thus it has a minimum on the whole $Bbb R^2$.
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– Crostul
Jan 7 at 17:40
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It is helpful to note that $$f(x,y)= (x+y)^2+(x+2)^2+(y-1/2)^2 - frac{17}{4}$$ This shows that the function is bounded below, thus it has a minimum on the whole $Bbb R^2$.
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– Crostul
Jan 7 at 17:40
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I have only found a minimum, $$-frac{1}{8}$$ for $$x=0,y=frac{1}{4}$$
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Jan 7 at 17:41
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I have only found a minimum, $$-frac{1}{8}$$ for $$x=0,y=frac{1}{4}$$
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Jan 7 at 17:41
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Yes, you are right, $-3.5leq f(x,y)leq15.$ There is solution without derivatives.
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– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 7 at 17:51
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Yes, you are right, $-3.5leq f(x,y)leq15.$ There is solution without derivatives.
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– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 7 at 17:51
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I know this can be pedantic (sorry), but extrema is the plural form of extremum, so "extremas" should be avoided.
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– Patricio
Jan 7 at 18:00
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I know this can be pedantic (sorry), but extrema is the plural form of extremum, so "extremas" should be avoided.
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– Patricio
Jan 7 at 18:00
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@Dr.SonnhardGraubner Are you sure that you didn't just check one of the border and not the other ones nor the inside ?
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– Poujh
Jan 7 at 18:26
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@Dr.SonnhardGraubner Are you sure that you didn't just check one of the border and not the other ones nor the inside ?
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– Poujh
Jan 7 at 18:26
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A solution without calculus.
Adopt new variables $x = u - v$, $y = u + v$. The objective function:
begin{align*}
2x^2 + 2y^2 + 2xy + 4x - y &= 2(u^2 - 2uv + v^2) + 2(u^2 + 2uv + v^2) + 2(u^2 - v^2) + 4(u-v) - (u+v) \
&= 6u^2 + 2v^2 + 3u - 5v \
&= 6 left( u + frac{1}{4} right)^2 + 2 left(v - frac{5}{4}right)^2 - frac{7}{2}.
end{align*}
The constraints:
begin{align*}
x leq 0 &Longrightarrow u leq v \
y geq 0 &Longrightarrow u geq -v \
y leq x + 3 &Longrightarrow v leq frac{3}{2}.
end{align*}
We may combine the constraints as an easier-to-visualize $|u| leq v leq frac{3}{2}$.
The objective function clearly has a global minimum over all of $mathbb{R}^2$ at $(u, v) = (-frac{1}{4}, frac{5}{4})$, i.e. $(x, y) = (-frac{3}{2}, 1)$, which is within the constraints. Furthermore, as the objective function is convex, its maximum on a convex polygon must be at a vertex, and it is easy to check all three possible vertices. The maximum is $(u, v) = (frac{3}{2}, frac{3}{2})$ or $(x, y) = (0, 3)$.
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But how am I supposed to "guess" those substitutions ?
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– Poujh
Jan 7 at 18:02
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I chose the substitutions because they would result in an expression with no $uv$ term.
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:08
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@Poujh, the main idea is to get rid of the crossed term $xy$. Since $4xy=(x+y)^2-(x-y)^2$, it is natural to think of $u=frac{x+y}{2}$ and $v=frac{x-y}{2}$ or, equivalently, $x=u-v,y=u+v$ (essentially what Connor did)
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– rmdmc89
Jan 7 at 18:10
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In general, if you have an expression of the form $Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2$, then a substitution of the form $x = u - v$, $y = u + kv$ (with the exact value of $k$ depending on $A, B, C$ in a way that you can calculate easily) will get rid of the crossed term.
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:15
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Perhaps he was just looking for a minimum on the boundary of the region?
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:23
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A solution without calculus.
Adopt new variables $x = u - v$, $y = u + v$. The objective function:
begin{align*}
2x^2 + 2y^2 + 2xy + 4x - y &= 2(u^2 - 2uv + v^2) + 2(u^2 + 2uv + v^2) + 2(u^2 - v^2) + 4(u-v) - (u+v) \
&= 6u^2 + 2v^2 + 3u - 5v \
&= 6 left( u + frac{1}{4} right)^2 + 2 left(v - frac{5}{4}right)^2 - frac{7}{2}.
end{align*}
The constraints:
begin{align*}
x leq 0 &Longrightarrow u leq v \
y geq 0 &Longrightarrow u geq -v \
y leq x + 3 &Longrightarrow v leq frac{3}{2}.
end{align*}
We may combine the constraints as an easier-to-visualize $|u| leq v leq frac{3}{2}$.
The objective function clearly has a global minimum over all of $mathbb{R}^2$ at $(u, v) = (-frac{1}{4}, frac{5}{4})$, i.e. $(x, y) = (-frac{3}{2}, 1)$, which is within the constraints. Furthermore, as the objective function is convex, its maximum on a convex polygon must be at a vertex, and it is easy to check all three possible vertices. The maximum is $(u, v) = (frac{3}{2}, frac{3}{2})$ or $(x, y) = (0, 3)$.
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But how am I supposed to "guess" those substitutions ?
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– Poujh
Jan 7 at 18:02
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I chose the substitutions because they would result in an expression with no $uv$ term.
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:08
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@Poujh, the main idea is to get rid of the crossed term $xy$. Since $4xy=(x+y)^2-(x-y)^2$, it is natural to think of $u=frac{x+y}{2}$ and $v=frac{x-y}{2}$ or, equivalently, $x=u-v,y=u+v$ (essentially what Connor did)
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– rmdmc89
Jan 7 at 18:10
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In general, if you have an expression of the form $Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2$, then a substitution of the form $x = u - v$, $y = u + kv$ (with the exact value of $k$ depending on $A, B, C$ in a way that you can calculate easily) will get rid of the crossed term.
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:15
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Perhaps he was just looking for a minimum on the boundary of the region?
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:23
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A solution without calculus.
Adopt new variables $x = u - v$, $y = u + v$. The objective function:
begin{align*}
2x^2 + 2y^2 + 2xy + 4x - y &= 2(u^2 - 2uv + v^2) + 2(u^2 + 2uv + v^2) + 2(u^2 - v^2) + 4(u-v) - (u+v) \
&= 6u^2 + 2v^2 + 3u - 5v \
&= 6 left( u + frac{1}{4} right)^2 + 2 left(v - frac{5}{4}right)^2 - frac{7}{2}.
end{align*}
The constraints:
begin{align*}
x leq 0 &Longrightarrow u leq v \
y geq 0 &Longrightarrow u geq -v \
y leq x + 3 &Longrightarrow v leq frac{3}{2}.
end{align*}
We may combine the constraints as an easier-to-visualize $|u| leq v leq frac{3}{2}$.
The objective function clearly has a global minimum over all of $mathbb{R}^2$ at $(u, v) = (-frac{1}{4}, frac{5}{4})$, i.e. $(x, y) = (-frac{3}{2}, 1)$, which is within the constraints. Furthermore, as the objective function is convex, its maximum on a convex polygon must be at a vertex, and it is easy to check all three possible vertices. The maximum is $(u, v) = (frac{3}{2}, frac{3}{2})$ or $(x, y) = (0, 3)$.
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But how am I supposed to "guess" those substitutions ?
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– Poujh
Jan 7 at 18:02
1
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I chose the substitutions because they would result in an expression with no $uv$ term.
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:08
1
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@Poujh, the main idea is to get rid of the crossed term $xy$. Since $4xy=(x+y)^2-(x-y)^2$, it is natural to think of $u=frac{x+y}{2}$ and $v=frac{x-y}{2}$ or, equivalently, $x=u-v,y=u+v$ (essentially what Connor did)
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– rmdmc89
Jan 7 at 18:10
2
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In general, if you have an expression of the form $Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2$, then a substitution of the form $x = u - v$, $y = u + kv$ (with the exact value of $k$ depending on $A, B, C$ in a way that you can calculate easily) will get rid of the crossed term.
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:15
1
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Perhaps he was just looking for a minimum on the boundary of the region?
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:23
|
show 6 more comments
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A solution without calculus.
Adopt new variables $x = u - v$, $y = u + v$. The objective function:
begin{align*}
2x^2 + 2y^2 + 2xy + 4x - y &= 2(u^2 - 2uv + v^2) + 2(u^2 + 2uv + v^2) + 2(u^2 - v^2) + 4(u-v) - (u+v) \
&= 6u^2 + 2v^2 + 3u - 5v \
&= 6 left( u + frac{1}{4} right)^2 + 2 left(v - frac{5}{4}right)^2 - frac{7}{2}.
end{align*}
The constraints:
begin{align*}
x leq 0 &Longrightarrow u leq v \
y geq 0 &Longrightarrow u geq -v \
y leq x + 3 &Longrightarrow v leq frac{3}{2}.
end{align*}
We may combine the constraints as an easier-to-visualize $|u| leq v leq frac{3}{2}$.
The objective function clearly has a global minimum over all of $mathbb{R}^2$ at $(u, v) = (-frac{1}{4}, frac{5}{4})$, i.e. $(x, y) = (-frac{3}{2}, 1)$, which is within the constraints. Furthermore, as the objective function is convex, its maximum on a convex polygon must be at a vertex, and it is easy to check all three possible vertices. The maximum is $(u, v) = (frac{3}{2}, frac{3}{2})$ or $(x, y) = (0, 3)$.
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A solution without calculus.
Adopt new variables $x = u - v$, $y = u + v$. The objective function:
begin{align*}
2x^2 + 2y^2 + 2xy + 4x - y &= 2(u^2 - 2uv + v^2) + 2(u^2 + 2uv + v^2) + 2(u^2 - v^2) + 4(u-v) - (u+v) \
&= 6u^2 + 2v^2 + 3u - 5v \
&= 6 left( u + frac{1}{4} right)^2 + 2 left(v - frac{5}{4}right)^2 - frac{7}{2}.
end{align*}
The constraints:
begin{align*}
x leq 0 &Longrightarrow u leq v \
y geq 0 &Longrightarrow u geq -v \
y leq x + 3 &Longrightarrow v leq frac{3}{2}.
end{align*}
We may combine the constraints as an easier-to-visualize $|u| leq v leq frac{3}{2}$.
The objective function clearly has a global minimum over all of $mathbb{R}^2$ at $(u, v) = (-frac{1}{4}, frac{5}{4})$, i.e. $(x, y) = (-frac{3}{2}, 1)$, which is within the constraints. Furthermore, as the objective function is convex, its maximum on a convex polygon must be at a vertex, and it is easy to check all three possible vertices. The maximum is $(u, v) = (frac{3}{2}, frac{3}{2})$ or $(x, y) = (0, 3)$.
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But how am I supposed to "guess" those substitutions ?
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– Poujh
Jan 7 at 18:02
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I chose the substitutions because they would result in an expression with no $uv$ term.
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– Connor Harris
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@Poujh, the main idea is to get rid of the crossed term $xy$. Since $4xy=(x+y)^2-(x-y)^2$, it is natural to think of $u=frac{x+y}{2}$ and $v=frac{x-y}{2}$ or, equivalently, $x=u-v,y=u+v$ (essentially what Connor did)
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– rmdmc89
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In general, if you have an expression of the form $Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2$, then a substitution of the form $x = u - v$, $y = u + kv$ (with the exact value of $k$ depending on $A, B, C$ in a way that you can calculate easily) will get rid of the crossed term.
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– Connor Harris
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Perhaps he was just looking for a minimum on the boundary of the region?
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– Connor Harris
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But how am I supposed to "guess" those substitutions ?
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– Poujh
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I chose the substitutions because they would result in an expression with no $uv$ term.
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:08
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@Poujh, the main idea is to get rid of the crossed term $xy$. Since $4xy=(x+y)^2-(x-y)^2$, it is natural to think of $u=frac{x+y}{2}$ and $v=frac{x-y}{2}$ or, equivalently, $x=u-v,y=u+v$ (essentially what Connor did)
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– rmdmc89
Jan 7 at 18:10
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In general, if you have an expression of the form $Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2$, then a substitution of the form $x = u - v$, $y = u + kv$ (with the exact value of $k$ depending on $A, B, C$ in a way that you can calculate easily) will get rid of the crossed term.
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:15
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Perhaps he was just looking for a minimum on the boundary of the region?
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:23
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But how am I supposed to "guess" those substitutions ?
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– Poujh
Jan 7 at 18:02
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But how am I supposed to "guess" those substitutions ?
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– Poujh
Jan 7 at 18:02
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I chose the substitutions because they would result in an expression with no $uv$ term.
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:08
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I chose the substitutions because they would result in an expression with no $uv$ term.
$endgroup$
– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:08
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1
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@Poujh, the main idea is to get rid of the crossed term $xy$. Since $4xy=(x+y)^2-(x-y)^2$, it is natural to think of $u=frac{x+y}{2}$ and $v=frac{x-y}{2}$ or, equivalently, $x=u-v,y=u+v$ (essentially what Connor did)
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– rmdmc89
Jan 7 at 18:10
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@Poujh, the main idea is to get rid of the crossed term $xy$. Since $4xy=(x+y)^2-(x-y)^2$, it is natural to think of $u=frac{x+y}{2}$ and $v=frac{x-y}{2}$ or, equivalently, $x=u-v,y=u+v$ (essentially what Connor did)
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– rmdmc89
Jan 7 at 18:10
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2
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In general, if you have an expression of the form $Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2$, then a substitution of the form $x = u - v$, $y = u + kv$ (with the exact value of $k$ depending on $A, B, C$ in a way that you can calculate easily) will get rid of the crossed term.
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:15
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In general, if you have an expression of the form $Ax^2 + Bxy + Cy^2$, then a substitution of the form $x = u - v$, $y = u + kv$ (with the exact value of $k$ depending on $A, B, C$ in a way that you can calculate easily) will get rid of the crossed term.
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:15
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Perhaps he was just looking for a minimum on the boundary of the region?
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:23
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Perhaps he was just looking for a minimum on the boundary of the region?
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– Connor Harris
Jan 7 at 18:23
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It is helpful to note that $$f(x,y)= (x+y)^2+(x+2)^2+(y-1/2)^2 - frac{17}{4}$$ This shows that the function is bounded below, thus it has a minimum on the whole $Bbb R^2$.
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Jan 7 at 17:40
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I have only found a minimum, $$-frac{1}{8}$$ for $$x=0,y=frac{1}{4}$$
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
Jan 7 at 17:41
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Yes, you are right, $-3.5leq f(x,y)leq15.$ There is solution without derivatives.
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– Michael Rozenberg
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I know this can be pedantic (sorry), but extrema is the plural form of extremum, so "extremas" should be avoided.
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@Dr.SonnhardGraubner Are you sure that you didn't just check one of the border and not the other ones nor the inside ?
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