Equivalence of defining neighborhood as an open set or as a closed set in a special case












0














Let continuous $f:Xtomathbb R$. $X$ is an interval of $mathbb R$.



Are the following two statements equivalent?



1) For almost every $xin X$ $exists$ open interval (neighborhood) $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave on $I$. (i.e. only countable number of $xin X$ does not have such neighborhood).



$f$ is locally convex on $I$ if $forall x,yin I$, we have $f(lambda x+(1-lambda)y)leq f(lambda x)+f((1-lambda)y)$



(In another word, epi$f(I)$ is a convex set.)



2) $forall xin X$ $exists$ (non-singleton) closed interval $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave over $I$.



If they are equivalent, then, in general, why people tend to use open set rather than closed set to define a neighborhood?










share|cite|improve this question
























  • What do you mean by "locally convex"? Just that $f$ is convex on the corresponding interval?
    – 0x539
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:19










  • @0x539 Thank you very much for the note. You are right. The question is clarified.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:41










  • What do you mean by "$X$ is an interval of $mathbb{R}$"? Can $X$ be any one of $[a,b]$, $[a,b)$, $(a,b)$ or $(a,b]$?
    – user587192
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:45












  • @user587192 How about this? For simplicity let's just consider the compact case at first.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:47






  • 1




    @mathworker21 The specific case will help me understand the situation. I agree with you overall. I will edit the question to be more specific.
    – High GPA
    Dec 27 '18 at 1:14
















0














Let continuous $f:Xtomathbb R$. $X$ is an interval of $mathbb R$.



Are the following two statements equivalent?



1) For almost every $xin X$ $exists$ open interval (neighborhood) $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave on $I$. (i.e. only countable number of $xin X$ does not have such neighborhood).



$f$ is locally convex on $I$ if $forall x,yin I$, we have $f(lambda x+(1-lambda)y)leq f(lambda x)+f((1-lambda)y)$



(In another word, epi$f(I)$ is a convex set.)



2) $forall xin X$ $exists$ (non-singleton) closed interval $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave over $I$.



If they are equivalent, then, in general, why people tend to use open set rather than closed set to define a neighborhood?










share|cite|improve this question
























  • What do you mean by "locally convex"? Just that $f$ is convex on the corresponding interval?
    – 0x539
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:19










  • @0x539 Thank you very much for the note. You are right. The question is clarified.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:41










  • What do you mean by "$X$ is an interval of $mathbb{R}$"? Can $X$ be any one of $[a,b]$, $[a,b)$, $(a,b)$ or $(a,b]$?
    – user587192
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:45












  • @user587192 How about this? For simplicity let's just consider the compact case at first.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:47






  • 1




    @mathworker21 The specific case will help me understand the situation. I agree with you overall. I will edit the question to be more specific.
    – High GPA
    Dec 27 '18 at 1:14














0












0








0







Let continuous $f:Xtomathbb R$. $X$ is an interval of $mathbb R$.



Are the following two statements equivalent?



1) For almost every $xin X$ $exists$ open interval (neighborhood) $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave on $I$. (i.e. only countable number of $xin X$ does not have such neighborhood).



$f$ is locally convex on $I$ if $forall x,yin I$, we have $f(lambda x+(1-lambda)y)leq f(lambda x)+f((1-lambda)y)$



(In another word, epi$f(I)$ is a convex set.)



2) $forall xin X$ $exists$ (non-singleton) closed interval $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave over $I$.



If they are equivalent, then, in general, why people tend to use open set rather than closed set to define a neighborhood?










share|cite|improve this question















Let continuous $f:Xtomathbb R$. $X$ is an interval of $mathbb R$.



Are the following two statements equivalent?



1) For almost every $xin X$ $exists$ open interval (neighborhood) $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave on $I$. (i.e. only countable number of $xin X$ does not have such neighborhood).



$f$ is locally convex on $I$ if $forall x,yin I$, we have $f(lambda x+(1-lambda)y)leq f(lambda x)+f((1-lambda)y)$



(In another word, epi$f(I)$ is a convex set.)



2) $forall xin X$ $exists$ (non-singleton) closed interval $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave over $I$.



If they are equivalent, then, in general, why people tend to use open set rather than closed set to define a neighborhood?







real-analysis general-topology analysis continuity convex-analysis






share|cite|improve this question















share|cite|improve this question













share|cite|improve this question




share|cite|improve this question








edited Dec 27 '18 at 1:14

























asked Dec 26 '18 at 23:00









High GPA

889419




889419












  • What do you mean by "locally convex"? Just that $f$ is convex on the corresponding interval?
    – 0x539
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:19










  • @0x539 Thank you very much for the note. You are right. The question is clarified.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:41










  • What do you mean by "$X$ is an interval of $mathbb{R}$"? Can $X$ be any one of $[a,b]$, $[a,b)$, $(a,b)$ or $(a,b]$?
    – user587192
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:45












  • @user587192 How about this? For simplicity let's just consider the compact case at first.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:47






  • 1




    @mathworker21 The specific case will help me understand the situation. I agree with you overall. I will edit the question to be more specific.
    – High GPA
    Dec 27 '18 at 1:14


















  • What do you mean by "locally convex"? Just that $f$ is convex on the corresponding interval?
    – 0x539
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:19










  • @0x539 Thank you very much for the note. You are right. The question is clarified.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:41










  • What do you mean by "$X$ is an interval of $mathbb{R}$"? Can $X$ be any one of $[a,b]$, $[a,b)$, $(a,b)$ or $(a,b]$?
    – user587192
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:45












  • @user587192 How about this? For simplicity let's just consider the compact case at first.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:47






  • 1




    @mathworker21 The specific case will help me understand the situation. I agree with you overall. I will edit the question to be more specific.
    – High GPA
    Dec 27 '18 at 1:14
















What do you mean by "locally convex"? Just that $f$ is convex on the corresponding interval?
– 0x539
Dec 26 '18 at 23:19




What do you mean by "locally convex"? Just that $f$ is convex on the corresponding interval?
– 0x539
Dec 26 '18 at 23:19












@0x539 Thank you very much for the note. You are right. The question is clarified.
– High GPA
Dec 26 '18 at 23:41




@0x539 Thank you very much for the note. You are right. The question is clarified.
– High GPA
Dec 26 '18 at 23:41












What do you mean by "$X$ is an interval of $mathbb{R}$"? Can $X$ be any one of $[a,b]$, $[a,b)$, $(a,b)$ or $(a,b]$?
– user587192
Dec 26 '18 at 23:45






What do you mean by "$X$ is an interval of $mathbb{R}$"? Can $X$ be any one of $[a,b]$, $[a,b)$, $(a,b)$ or $(a,b]$?
– user587192
Dec 26 '18 at 23:45














@user587192 How about this? For simplicity let's just consider the compact case at first.
– High GPA
Dec 26 '18 at 23:47




@user587192 How about this? For simplicity let's just consider the compact case at first.
– High GPA
Dec 26 '18 at 23:47




1




1




@mathworker21 The specific case will help me understand the situation. I agree with you overall. I will edit the question to be more specific.
– High GPA
Dec 27 '18 at 1:14




@mathworker21 The specific case will help me understand the situation. I agree with you overall. I will edit the question to be more specific.
– High GPA
Dec 27 '18 at 1:14















active

oldest

votes











Your Answer





StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function () {
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function () {
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix) {
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
});
});
}, "mathjax-editing");

StackExchange.ready(function() {
var channelOptions = {
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
};
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);

StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function() {
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled) {
StackExchange.using("snippets", function() {
createEditor();
});
}
else {
createEditor();
}
});

function createEditor() {
StackExchange.prepareEditor({
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader: {
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
},
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
});


}
});














draft saved

draft discarded


















StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3053407%2fequivalence-of-defining-neighborhood-as-an-open-set-or-as-a-closed-set-in-a-spec%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown






























active

oldest

votes













active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes
















draft saved

draft discarded




















































Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.





Some of your past answers have not been well-received, and you're in danger of being blocked from answering.


Please pay close attention to the following guidance:


  • Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!

But avoid



  • Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.

  • Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.


To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.




draft saved


draft discarded














StackExchange.ready(
function () {
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f3053407%2fequivalence-of-defining-neighborhood-as-an-open-set-or-as-a-closed-set-in-a-spec%23new-answer', 'question_page');
}
);

Post as a guest















Required, but never shown





















































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown

































Required, but never shown














Required, but never shown












Required, but never shown







Required, but never shown







Popular posts from this blog

Human spaceflight

Can not write log (Is /dev/pts mounted?) - openpty in Ubuntu-on-Windows?

張江高科駅