Equivalence of defining neighborhood as an open set or as a closed set in a special case












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Let continuous $f:Xtomathbb R$. $X$ is an interval of $mathbb R$.



Are the following two statements equivalent?



1) For almost every $xin X$ $exists$ open interval (neighborhood) $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave on $I$. (i.e. only countable number of $xin X$ does not have such neighborhood).



$f$ is locally convex on $I$ if $forall x,yin I$, we have $f(lambda x+(1-lambda)y)leq f(lambda x)+f((1-lambda)y)$



(In another word, epi$f(I)$ is a convex set.)



2) $forall xin X$ $exists$ (non-singleton) closed interval $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave over $I$.



If they are equivalent, then, in general, why people tend to use open set rather than closed set to define a neighborhood?










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  • What do you mean by "locally convex"? Just that $f$ is convex on the corresponding interval?
    – 0x539
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:19










  • @0x539 Thank you very much for the note. You are right. The question is clarified.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:41










  • What do you mean by "$X$ is an interval of $mathbb{R}$"? Can $X$ be any one of $[a,b]$, $[a,b)$, $(a,b)$ or $(a,b]$?
    – user587192
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:45












  • @user587192 How about this? For simplicity let's just consider the compact case at first.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:47






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    @mathworker21 The specific case will help me understand the situation. I agree with you overall. I will edit the question to be more specific.
    – High GPA
    Dec 27 '18 at 1:14
















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Let continuous $f:Xtomathbb R$. $X$ is an interval of $mathbb R$.



Are the following two statements equivalent?



1) For almost every $xin X$ $exists$ open interval (neighborhood) $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave on $I$. (i.e. only countable number of $xin X$ does not have such neighborhood).



$f$ is locally convex on $I$ if $forall x,yin I$, we have $f(lambda x+(1-lambda)y)leq f(lambda x)+f((1-lambda)y)$



(In another word, epi$f(I)$ is a convex set.)



2) $forall xin X$ $exists$ (non-singleton) closed interval $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave over $I$.



If they are equivalent, then, in general, why people tend to use open set rather than closed set to define a neighborhood?










share|cite|improve this question
























  • What do you mean by "locally convex"? Just that $f$ is convex on the corresponding interval?
    – 0x539
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:19










  • @0x539 Thank you very much for the note. You are right. The question is clarified.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:41










  • What do you mean by "$X$ is an interval of $mathbb{R}$"? Can $X$ be any one of $[a,b]$, $[a,b)$, $(a,b)$ or $(a,b]$?
    – user587192
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:45












  • @user587192 How about this? For simplicity let's just consider the compact case at first.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:47






  • 1




    @mathworker21 The specific case will help me understand the situation. I agree with you overall. I will edit the question to be more specific.
    – High GPA
    Dec 27 '18 at 1:14














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Let continuous $f:Xtomathbb R$. $X$ is an interval of $mathbb R$.



Are the following two statements equivalent?



1) For almost every $xin X$ $exists$ open interval (neighborhood) $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave on $I$. (i.e. only countable number of $xin X$ does not have such neighborhood).



$f$ is locally convex on $I$ if $forall x,yin I$, we have $f(lambda x+(1-lambda)y)leq f(lambda x)+f((1-lambda)y)$



(In another word, epi$f(I)$ is a convex set.)



2) $forall xin X$ $exists$ (non-singleton) closed interval $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave over $I$.



If they are equivalent, then, in general, why people tend to use open set rather than closed set to define a neighborhood?










share|cite|improve this question















Let continuous $f:Xtomathbb R$. $X$ is an interval of $mathbb R$.



Are the following two statements equivalent?



1) For almost every $xin X$ $exists$ open interval (neighborhood) $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave on $I$. (i.e. only countable number of $xin X$ does not have such neighborhood).



$f$ is locally convex on $I$ if $forall x,yin I$, we have $f(lambda x+(1-lambda)y)leq f(lambda x)+f((1-lambda)y)$



(In another word, epi$f(I)$ is a convex set.)



2) $forall xin X$ $exists$ (non-singleton) closed interval $Ini x$ s.t. $f$ is either locally convex or locally concave over $I$.



If they are equivalent, then, in general, why people tend to use open set rather than closed set to define a neighborhood?







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  • What do you mean by "locally convex"? Just that $f$ is convex on the corresponding interval?
    – 0x539
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:19










  • @0x539 Thank you very much for the note. You are right. The question is clarified.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:41










  • What do you mean by "$X$ is an interval of $mathbb{R}$"? Can $X$ be any one of $[a,b]$, $[a,b)$, $(a,b)$ or $(a,b]$?
    – user587192
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:45












  • @user587192 How about this? For simplicity let's just consider the compact case at first.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:47






  • 1




    @mathworker21 The specific case will help me understand the situation. I agree with you overall. I will edit the question to be more specific.
    – High GPA
    Dec 27 '18 at 1:14


















  • What do you mean by "locally convex"? Just that $f$ is convex on the corresponding interval?
    – 0x539
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:19










  • @0x539 Thank you very much for the note. You are right. The question is clarified.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:41










  • What do you mean by "$X$ is an interval of $mathbb{R}$"? Can $X$ be any one of $[a,b]$, $[a,b)$, $(a,b)$ or $(a,b]$?
    – user587192
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:45












  • @user587192 How about this? For simplicity let's just consider the compact case at first.
    – High GPA
    Dec 26 '18 at 23:47






  • 1




    @mathworker21 The specific case will help me understand the situation. I agree with you overall. I will edit the question to be more specific.
    – High GPA
    Dec 27 '18 at 1:14
















What do you mean by "locally convex"? Just that $f$ is convex on the corresponding interval?
– 0x539
Dec 26 '18 at 23:19




What do you mean by "locally convex"? Just that $f$ is convex on the corresponding interval?
– 0x539
Dec 26 '18 at 23:19












@0x539 Thank you very much for the note. You are right. The question is clarified.
– High GPA
Dec 26 '18 at 23:41




@0x539 Thank you very much for the note. You are right. The question is clarified.
– High GPA
Dec 26 '18 at 23:41












What do you mean by "$X$ is an interval of $mathbb{R}$"? Can $X$ be any one of $[a,b]$, $[a,b)$, $(a,b)$ or $(a,b]$?
– user587192
Dec 26 '18 at 23:45






What do you mean by "$X$ is an interval of $mathbb{R}$"? Can $X$ be any one of $[a,b]$, $[a,b)$, $(a,b)$ or $(a,b]$?
– user587192
Dec 26 '18 at 23:45














@user587192 How about this? For simplicity let's just consider the compact case at first.
– High GPA
Dec 26 '18 at 23:47




@user587192 How about this? For simplicity let's just consider the compact case at first.
– High GPA
Dec 26 '18 at 23:47




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@mathworker21 The specific case will help me understand the situation. I agree with you overall. I will edit the question to be more specific.
– High GPA
Dec 27 '18 at 1:14




@mathworker21 The specific case will help me understand the situation. I agree with you overall. I will edit the question to be more specific.
– High GPA
Dec 27 '18 at 1:14















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