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Given cyclic pentagon $ABCDE$ with the radius $3$. If $AB=BC=2$ and $CD=DE=4$, find $AE$.




I think trigonometry tricks are really useful on this problem, but I still can't get the final answer.










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    You should really add what trigonometry tricks you have used to try and solve it
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    I thought the cosine law could be applied on the ABCO, but it's not a cyclic quadrilateral
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    It's $6sinleft(2arcsinfrac{1}{3}+2arcsinfrac{2}{3}right).$
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Given cyclic pentagon $ABCDE$ with the radius $3$. If $AB=BC=2$ and $CD=DE=4$, find $AE$.




I think trigonometry tricks are really useful on this problem, but I still can't get the final answer.










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    You should really add what trigonometry tricks you have used to try and solve it
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    I thought the cosine law could be applied on the ABCO, but it's not a cyclic quadrilateral
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    It's $6sinleft(2arcsinfrac{1}{3}+2arcsinfrac{2}{3}right).$
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Given cyclic pentagon $ABCDE$ with the radius $3$. If $AB=BC=2$ and $CD=DE=4$, find $AE$.




I think trigonometry tricks are really useful on this problem, but I still can't get the final answer.










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Given cyclic pentagon $ABCDE$ with the radius $3$. If $AB=BC=2$ and $CD=DE=4$, find $AE$.




I think trigonometry tricks are really useful on this problem, but I still can't get the final answer.







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    You should really add what trigonometry tricks you have used to try and solve it
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    I thought the cosine law could be applied on the ABCO, but it's not a cyclic quadrilateral
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    It's $6sinleft(2arcsinfrac{1}{3}+2arcsinfrac{2}{3}right).$
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    – Michael Rozenberg
    Jan 2 at 10:32














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    You should really add what trigonometry tricks you have used to try and solve it
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    – Prakhar Nagpal
    Jan 2 at 8:37










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    I thought the cosine law could be applied on the ABCO, but it's not a cyclic quadrilateral
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    – Pray Oren Simanjuntak
    Jan 2 at 8:51










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    It's $6sinleft(2arcsinfrac{1}{3}+2arcsinfrac{2}{3}right).$
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    – Michael Rozenberg
    Jan 2 at 10:32








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You should really add what trigonometry tricks you have used to try and solve it
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You should really add what trigonometry tricks you have used to try and solve it
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– Prakhar Nagpal
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I thought the cosine law could be applied on the ABCO, but it's not a cyclic quadrilateral
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– Pray Oren Simanjuntak
Jan 2 at 8:51




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I thought the cosine law could be applied on the ABCO, but it's not a cyclic quadrilateral
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– Pray Oren Simanjuntak
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It's $6sinleft(2arcsinfrac{1}{3}+2arcsinfrac{2}{3}right).$
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– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 2 at 10:32




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It's $6sinleft(2arcsinfrac{1}{3}+2arcsinfrac{2}{3}right).$
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Calculate the angles at the center:



$$angle AOB = 2 sin^{-1}frac 13 = angle BOC qquad angle COD = 2sin^{-1} frac 23 = angle DOE$$



These angles sum to $4sin^{-1}frac 13 + 4 sin^{-1} frac 23$, and we can simplify this with



begin{align}
& 4sin^{-1}frac 13 + 4 sin^{-1} frac 23 \
= & 4sin^{-1}sin bigg(sin^{-1}frac 13 + sin^{-1} frac 23 bigg) \
= & 4sin^{-1}bigg[sinbigg(sin^{-1}frac 13bigg)cosbigg(sin^{-1}frac 23bigg)+sinbigg(sin^{-1}frac 23bigg)cosbigg(sin^{-1}frac 13bigg)bigg] \
= & 4sin^{-1}bigg[frac 13 cdot frac{sqrt 5}{3} + frac 23 cdot frac{sqrt 8}{3}bigg] \
= & 4sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}
end{align}



Thus, the last angle $angle EOA$ is given by



$$angle EOA = 2pi - 4sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}$$



and $EA$ can be calculated as



begin{align}
EA & = 2cdot OE cdot sin frac{angle EOA}{2} \
& = 2 cdot 3 cdot sinbigg(pi - 2sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) \
& = 6sinbigg(2sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) \
& = 12sin bigg(sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) cos bigg(sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} bigg) \
& = 12 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{9^2 - (sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2)^2}}{9} \
& = 12 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{44 - 8sqrt{10}}}{9} \
& = 24 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{10}-1}{9} \
& = frac{8sqrt 2 + 56sqrt{5}}{27}
end{align}



Indeed, this is numerically equal to $5.05dots$






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    I don't think this is the intended solution, as a calculator is necessary and it is absolutely non-elegant. I hope somebody has the time to find a nicer solution.





    If you have the radius of the circle and the length of a chord, it's easy to find the angle which defines the chord:
    $$sinleft(frac{varphi}{2}right)=frac{c/2}{r}=frac{c}{2r}$$
    Consequently you get the twice the angle
    $$sinleft(frac{varphi_1}{2}right)=frac{|AB|}{6}=frac23implies varphi_1
    cong 83.62^circ$$

    (this can be the only solution, as the solution in the second quadrant would result in an angle of size $276^circ$ which makes no sense)
    and twice the angle
    $$sinleft(frac{varphi_2}{2}right)=frac{|BC|}{6}=frac13implies varphi_2
    cong 38.94^circ$$

    Now the length of the missing chors is just
    $$|AE|=2rcdotsinleft(frac{theta}{2}right)=2rsinleft(frac{2pi-2varphi_1-2varphi_2}{2}right)=2rsinleft(pi-varphi_1-varphi_2right)=2rsinleft(varphi_1+varphi_2right),$$
    which can be easily calculated using the above. The result is $|AE|=5.05$






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      The most useful trick we can use here? We can permute the order of the sides in a cyclic polygon and still inscribe it in the same circle. After all, the central angle subtended by a side depends only on the side's length and the radius. So the, let's shuffle the sides in a way that produces some symmetry: $A'B'=2$, $B'C'=4$, $E'D'=2$, $D'C'=4$. Then $A'E'$ will be the same as $AE$.



      What does this do? We will have $A'C'=E'C'$, so that $A'C'E'$ is an isosceles triangle. Now we need the length $A'C'$, and that's trigonometry. Angles $angle B'C'A'=gamma$ and $angle C'A'B'=alpha$ are acute, with sines $frac{A'B'}{2r}=frac13$ and $frac{B'C'}{2r}=frac23$ respectively. The third angle $angle A'B'C'=beta$ is the complement of $alpha+gamma$, so $sin beta = sin alphacosgamma+cosalphasingamma = frac23cdotfrac{sqrt{8}}{3}+frac13cdotfrac{sqrt{5}}{3}=frac{4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}}{9}$. Note also that $beta$ is obtuse.



      Now, we deal with the isosceles triangle $A'C'E'$. Its angles are $180^circ-beta$, $180^circ-beta$, and $2beta-180^{circ}$. The length $A'E'$ we care about, of course, is opposite the one that's different. Its length is
      begin{align*}A'E' &= 2rsin(2beta-180^circ)\
      &= -2rsin(2beta) = -4rsinbetacosbeta\
      &= -4cdot 3cdot frac{4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}}{9}cdot frac{-sqrt{81-37-8sqrt{10}}}{9}\
      &= frac{4(4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})sqrt{44-8sqrt{10}}}{27}=frac{4(4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})(2sqrt{10}-2)}{27}\
      &= frac{8(4sqrt{20}+sqrt{50}-4sqrt{2}-sqrt{5})}{27}=frac{8}{27}(7sqrt{5}+sqrt{2})end{align*}



      Another verification of the same answer. I hope my somewhat different path is useful here.






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        Calculate the angles at the center:



        $$angle AOB = 2 sin^{-1}frac 13 = angle BOC qquad angle COD = 2sin^{-1} frac 23 = angle DOE$$



        These angles sum to $4sin^{-1}frac 13 + 4 sin^{-1} frac 23$, and we can simplify this with



        begin{align}
        & 4sin^{-1}frac 13 + 4 sin^{-1} frac 23 \
        = & 4sin^{-1}sin bigg(sin^{-1}frac 13 + sin^{-1} frac 23 bigg) \
        = & 4sin^{-1}bigg[sinbigg(sin^{-1}frac 13bigg)cosbigg(sin^{-1}frac 23bigg)+sinbigg(sin^{-1}frac 23bigg)cosbigg(sin^{-1}frac 13bigg)bigg] \
        = & 4sin^{-1}bigg[frac 13 cdot frac{sqrt 5}{3} + frac 23 cdot frac{sqrt 8}{3}bigg] \
        = & 4sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}
        end{align}



        Thus, the last angle $angle EOA$ is given by



        $$angle EOA = 2pi - 4sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}$$



        and $EA$ can be calculated as



        begin{align}
        EA & = 2cdot OE cdot sin frac{angle EOA}{2} \
        & = 2 cdot 3 cdot sinbigg(pi - 2sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) \
        & = 6sinbigg(2sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) \
        & = 12sin bigg(sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) cos bigg(sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} bigg) \
        & = 12 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{9^2 - (sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2)^2}}{9} \
        & = 12 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{44 - 8sqrt{10}}}{9} \
        & = 24 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{10}-1}{9} \
        & = frac{8sqrt 2 + 56sqrt{5}}{27}
        end{align}



        Indeed, this is numerically equal to $5.05dots$






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          Calculate the angles at the center:



          $$angle AOB = 2 sin^{-1}frac 13 = angle BOC qquad angle COD = 2sin^{-1} frac 23 = angle DOE$$



          These angles sum to $4sin^{-1}frac 13 + 4 sin^{-1} frac 23$, and we can simplify this with



          begin{align}
          & 4sin^{-1}frac 13 + 4 sin^{-1} frac 23 \
          = & 4sin^{-1}sin bigg(sin^{-1}frac 13 + sin^{-1} frac 23 bigg) \
          = & 4sin^{-1}bigg[sinbigg(sin^{-1}frac 13bigg)cosbigg(sin^{-1}frac 23bigg)+sinbigg(sin^{-1}frac 23bigg)cosbigg(sin^{-1}frac 13bigg)bigg] \
          = & 4sin^{-1}bigg[frac 13 cdot frac{sqrt 5}{3} + frac 23 cdot frac{sqrt 8}{3}bigg] \
          = & 4sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}
          end{align}



          Thus, the last angle $angle EOA$ is given by



          $$angle EOA = 2pi - 4sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}$$



          and $EA$ can be calculated as



          begin{align}
          EA & = 2cdot OE cdot sin frac{angle EOA}{2} \
          & = 2 cdot 3 cdot sinbigg(pi - 2sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) \
          & = 6sinbigg(2sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) \
          & = 12sin bigg(sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) cos bigg(sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} bigg) \
          & = 12 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{9^2 - (sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2)^2}}{9} \
          & = 12 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{44 - 8sqrt{10}}}{9} \
          & = 24 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{10}-1}{9} \
          & = frac{8sqrt 2 + 56sqrt{5}}{27}
          end{align}



          Indeed, this is numerically equal to $5.05dots$






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            Calculate the angles at the center:



            $$angle AOB = 2 sin^{-1}frac 13 = angle BOC qquad angle COD = 2sin^{-1} frac 23 = angle DOE$$



            These angles sum to $4sin^{-1}frac 13 + 4 sin^{-1} frac 23$, and we can simplify this with



            begin{align}
            & 4sin^{-1}frac 13 + 4 sin^{-1} frac 23 \
            = & 4sin^{-1}sin bigg(sin^{-1}frac 13 + sin^{-1} frac 23 bigg) \
            = & 4sin^{-1}bigg[sinbigg(sin^{-1}frac 13bigg)cosbigg(sin^{-1}frac 23bigg)+sinbigg(sin^{-1}frac 23bigg)cosbigg(sin^{-1}frac 13bigg)bigg] \
            = & 4sin^{-1}bigg[frac 13 cdot frac{sqrt 5}{3} + frac 23 cdot frac{sqrt 8}{3}bigg] \
            = & 4sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}
            end{align}



            Thus, the last angle $angle EOA$ is given by



            $$angle EOA = 2pi - 4sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}$$



            and $EA$ can be calculated as



            begin{align}
            EA & = 2cdot OE cdot sin frac{angle EOA}{2} \
            & = 2 cdot 3 cdot sinbigg(pi - 2sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) \
            & = 6sinbigg(2sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) \
            & = 12sin bigg(sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) cos bigg(sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} bigg) \
            & = 12 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{9^2 - (sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2)^2}}{9} \
            & = 12 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{44 - 8sqrt{10}}}{9} \
            & = 24 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{10}-1}{9} \
            & = frac{8sqrt 2 + 56sqrt{5}}{27}
            end{align}



            Indeed, this is numerically equal to $5.05dots$






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            Calculate the angles at the center:



            $$angle AOB = 2 sin^{-1}frac 13 = angle BOC qquad angle COD = 2sin^{-1} frac 23 = angle DOE$$



            These angles sum to $4sin^{-1}frac 13 + 4 sin^{-1} frac 23$, and we can simplify this with



            begin{align}
            & 4sin^{-1}frac 13 + 4 sin^{-1} frac 23 \
            = & 4sin^{-1}sin bigg(sin^{-1}frac 13 + sin^{-1} frac 23 bigg) \
            = & 4sin^{-1}bigg[sinbigg(sin^{-1}frac 13bigg)cosbigg(sin^{-1}frac 23bigg)+sinbigg(sin^{-1}frac 23bigg)cosbigg(sin^{-1}frac 13bigg)bigg] \
            = & 4sin^{-1}bigg[frac 13 cdot frac{sqrt 5}{3} + frac 23 cdot frac{sqrt 8}{3}bigg] \
            = & 4sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}
            end{align}



            Thus, the last angle $angle EOA$ is given by



            $$angle EOA = 2pi - 4sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}$$



            and $EA$ can be calculated as



            begin{align}
            EA & = 2cdot OE cdot sin frac{angle EOA}{2} \
            & = 2 cdot 3 cdot sinbigg(pi - 2sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) \
            & = 6sinbigg(2sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) \
            & = 12sin bigg(sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9}bigg) cos bigg(sin^{-1}frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} bigg) \
            & = 12 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{9^2 - (sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2)^2}}{9} \
            & = 12 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{44 - 8sqrt{10}}}{9} \
            & = 24 cdot frac{sqrt 5 + 4sqrt 2}{9} cdot frac{sqrt{10}-1}{9} \
            & = frac{8sqrt 2 + 56sqrt{5}}{27}
            end{align}



            Indeed, this is numerically equal to $5.05dots$







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                I don't think this is the intended solution, as a calculator is necessary and it is absolutely non-elegant. I hope somebody has the time to find a nicer solution.





                If you have the radius of the circle and the length of a chord, it's easy to find the angle which defines the chord:
                $$sinleft(frac{varphi}{2}right)=frac{c/2}{r}=frac{c}{2r}$$
                Consequently you get the twice the angle
                $$sinleft(frac{varphi_1}{2}right)=frac{|AB|}{6}=frac23implies varphi_1
                cong 83.62^circ$$

                (this can be the only solution, as the solution in the second quadrant would result in an angle of size $276^circ$ which makes no sense)
                and twice the angle
                $$sinleft(frac{varphi_2}{2}right)=frac{|BC|}{6}=frac13implies varphi_2
                cong 38.94^circ$$

                Now the length of the missing chors is just
                $$|AE|=2rcdotsinleft(frac{theta}{2}right)=2rsinleft(frac{2pi-2varphi_1-2varphi_2}{2}right)=2rsinleft(pi-varphi_1-varphi_2right)=2rsinleft(varphi_1+varphi_2right),$$
                which can be easily calculated using the above. The result is $|AE|=5.05$






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                  I don't think this is the intended solution, as a calculator is necessary and it is absolutely non-elegant. I hope somebody has the time to find a nicer solution.





                  If you have the radius of the circle and the length of a chord, it's easy to find the angle which defines the chord:
                  $$sinleft(frac{varphi}{2}right)=frac{c/2}{r}=frac{c}{2r}$$
                  Consequently you get the twice the angle
                  $$sinleft(frac{varphi_1}{2}right)=frac{|AB|}{6}=frac23implies varphi_1
                  cong 83.62^circ$$

                  (this can be the only solution, as the solution in the second quadrant would result in an angle of size $276^circ$ which makes no sense)
                  and twice the angle
                  $$sinleft(frac{varphi_2}{2}right)=frac{|BC|}{6}=frac13implies varphi_2
                  cong 38.94^circ$$

                  Now the length of the missing chors is just
                  $$|AE|=2rcdotsinleft(frac{theta}{2}right)=2rsinleft(frac{2pi-2varphi_1-2varphi_2}{2}right)=2rsinleft(pi-varphi_1-varphi_2right)=2rsinleft(varphi_1+varphi_2right),$$
                  which can be easily calculated using the above. The result is $|AE|=5.05$






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                    I don't think this is the intended solution, as a calculator is necessary and it is absolutely non-elegant. I hope somebody has the time to find a nicer solution.





                    If you have the radius of the circle and the length of a chord, it's easy to find the angle which defines the chord:
                    $$sinleft(frac{varphi}{2}right)=frac{c/2}{r}=frac{c}{2r}$$
                    Consequently you get the twice the angle
                    $$sinleft(frac{varphi_1}{2}right)=frac{|AB|}{6}=frac23implies varphi_1
                    cong 83.62^circ$$

                    (this can be the only solution, as the solution in the second quadrant would result in an angle of size $276^circ$ which makes no sense)
                    and twice the angle
                    $$sinleft(frac{varphi_2}{2}right)=frac{|BC|}{6}=frac13implies varphi_2
                    cong 38.94^circ$$

                    Now the length of the missing chors is just
                    $$|AE|=2rcdotsinleft(frac{theta}{2}right)=2rsinleft(frac{2pi-2varphi_1-2varphi_2}{2}right)=2rsinleft(pi-varphi_1-varphi_2right)=2rsinleft(varphi_1+varphi_2right),$$
                    which can be easily calculated using the above. The result is $|AE|=5.05$






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                    I don't think this is the intended solution, as a calculator is necessary and it is absolutely non-elegant. I hope somebody has the time to find a nicer solution.





                    If you have the radius of the circle and the length of a chord, it's easy to find the angle which defines the chord:
                    $$sinleft(frac{varphi}{2}right)=frac{c/2}{r}=frac{c}{2r}$$
                    Consequently you get the twice the angle
                    $$sinleft(frac{varphi_1}{2}right)=frac{|AB|}{6}=frac23implies varphi_1
                    cong 83.62^circ$$

                    (this can be the only solution, as the solution in the second quadrant would result in an angle of size $276^circ$ which makes no sense)
                    and twice the angle
                    $$sinleft(frac{varphi_2}{2}right)=frac{|BC|}{6}=frac13implies varphi_2
                    cong 38.94^circ$$

                    Now the length of the missing chors is just
                    $$|AE|=2rcdotsinleft(frac{theta}{2}right)=2rsinleft(frac{2pi-2varphi_1-2varphi_2}{2}right)=2rsinleft(pi-varphi_1-varphi_2right)=2rsinleft(varphi_1+varphi_2right),$$
                    which can be easily calculated using the above. The result is $|AE|=5.05$







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                        The most useful trick we can use here? We can permute the order of the sides in a cyclic polygon and still inscribe it in the same circle. After all, the central angle subtended by a side depends only on the side's length and the radius. So the, let's shuffle the sides in a way that produces some symmetry: $A'B'=2$, $B'C'=4$, $E'D'=2$, $D'C'=4$. Then $A'E'$ will be the same as $AE$.



                        What does this do? We will have $A'C'=E'C'$, so that $A'C'E'$ is an isosceles triangle. Now we need the length $A'C'$, and that's trigonometry. Angles $angle B'C'A'=gamma$ and $angle C'A'B'=alpha$ are acute, with sines $frac{A'B'}{2r}=frac13$ and $frac{B'C'}{2r}=frac23$ respectively. The third angle $angle A'B'C'=beta$ is the complement of $alpha+gamma$, so $sin beta = sin alphacosgamma+cosalphasingamma = frac23cdotfrac{sqrt{8}}{3}+frac13cdotfrac{sqrt{5}}{3}=frac{4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}}{9}$. Note also that $beta$ is obtuse.



                        Now, we deal with the isosceles triangle $A'C'E'$. Its angles are $180^circ-beta$, $180^circ-beta$, and $2beta-180^{circ}$. The length $A'E'$ we care about, of course, is opposite the one that's different. Its length is
                        begin{align*}A'E' &= 2rsin(2beta-180^circ)\
                        &= -2rsin(2beta) = -4rsinbetacosbeta\
                        &= -4cdot 3cdot frac{4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}}{9}cdot frac{-sqrt{81-37-8sqrt{10}}}{9}\
                        &= frac{4(4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})sqrt{44-8sqrt{10}}}{27}=frac{4(4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})(2sqrt{10}-2)}{27}\
                        &= frac{8(4sqrt{20}+sqrt{50}-4sqrt{2}-sqrt{5})}{27}=frac{8}{27}(7sqrt{5}+sqrt{2})end{align*}



                        Another verification of the same answer. I hope my somewhat different path is useful here.






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                          The most useful trick we can use here? We can permute the order of the sides in a cyclic polygon and still inscribe it in the same circle. After all, the central angle subtended by a side depends only on the side's length and the radius. So the, let's shuffle the sides in a way that produces some symmetry: $A'B'=2$, $B'C'=4$, $E'D'=2$, $D'C'=4$. Then $A'E'$ will be the same as $AE$.



                          What does this do? We will have $A'C'=E'C'$, so that $A'C'E'$ is an isosceles triangle. Now we need the length $A'C'$, and that's trigonometry. Angles $angle B'C'A'=gamma$ and $angle C'A'B'=alpha$ are acute, with sines $frac{A'B'}{2r}=frac13$ and $frac{B'C'}{2r}=frac23$ respectively. The third angle $angle A'B'C'=beta$ is the complement of $alpha+gamma$, so $sin beta = sin alphacosgamma+cosalphasingamma = frac23cdotfrac{sqrt{8}}{3}+frac13cdotfrac{sqrt{5}}{3}=frac{4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}}{9}$. Note also that $beta$ is obtuse.



                          Now, we deal with the isosceles triangle $A'C'E'$. Its angles are $180^circ-beta$, $180^circ-beta$, and $2beta-180^{circ}$. The length $A'E'$ we care about, of course, is opposite the one that's different. Its length is
                          begin{align*}A'E' &= 2rsin(2beta-180^circ)\
                          &= -2rsin(2beta) = -4rsinbetacosbeta\
                          &= -4cdot 3cdot frac{4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}}{9}cdot frac{-sqrt{81-37-8sqrt{10}}}{9}\
                          &= frac{4(4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})sqrt{44-8sqrt{10}}}{27}=frac{4(4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})(2sqrt{10}-2)}{27}\
                          &= frac{8(4sqrt{20}+sqrt{50}-4sqrt{2}-sqrt{5})}{27}=frac{8}{27}(7sqrt{5}+sqrt{2})end{align*}



                          Another verification of the same answer. I hope my somewhat different path is useful here.






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                            $begingroup$

                            The most useful trick we can use here? We can permute the order of the sides in a cyclic polygon and still inscribe it in the same circle. After all, the central angle subtended by a side depends only on the side's length and the radius. So the, let's shuffle the sides in a way that produces some symmetry: $A'B'=2$, $B'C'=4$, $E'D'=2$, $D'C'=4$. Then $A'E'$ will be the same as $AE$.



                            What does this do? We will have $A'C'=E'C'$, so that $A'C'E'$ is an isosceles triangle. Now we need the length $A'C'$, and that's trigonometry. Angles $angle B'C'A'=gamma$ and $angle C'A'B'=alpha$ are acute, with sines $frac{A'B'}{2r}=frac13$ and $frac{B'C'}{2r}=frac23$ respectively. The third angle $angle A'B'C'=beta$ is the complement of $alpha+gamma$, so $sin beta = sin alphacosgamma+cosalphasingamma = frac23cdotfrac{sqrt{8}}{3}+frac13cdotfrac{sqrt{5}}{3}=frac{4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}}{9}$. Note also that $beta$ is obtuse.



                            Now, we deal with the isosceles triangle $A'C'E'$. Its angles are $180^circ-beta$, $180^circ-beta$, and $2beta-180^{circ}$. The length $A'E'$ we care about, of course, is opposite the one that's different. Its length is
                            begin{align*}A'E' &= 2rsin(2beta-180^circ)\
                            &= -2rsin(2beta) = -4rsinbetacosbeta\
                            &= -4cdot 3cdot frac{4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}}{9}cdot frac{-sqrt{81-37-8sqrt{10}}}{9}\
                            &= frac{4(4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})sqrt{44-8sqrt{10}}}{27}=frac{4(4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})(2sqrt{10}-2)}{27}\
                            &= frac{8(4sqrt{20}+sqrt{50}-4sqrt{2}-sqrt{5})}{27}=frac{8}{27}(7sqrt{5}+sqrt{2})end{align*}



                            Another verification of the same answer. I hope my somewhat different path is useful here.






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                            The most useful trick we can use here? We can permute the order of the sides in a cyclic polygon and still inscribe it in the same circle. After all, the central angle subtended by a side depends only on the side's length and the radius. So the, let's shuffle the sides in a way that produces some symmetry: $A'B'=2$, $B'C'=4$, $E'D'=2$, $D'C'=4$. Then $A'E'$ will be the same as $AE$.



                            What does this do? We will have $A'C'=E'C'$, so that $A'C'E'$ is an isosceles triangle. Now we need the length $A'C'$, and that's trigonometry. Angles $angle B'C'A'=gamma$ and $angle C'A'B'=alpha$ are acute, with sines $frac{A'B'}{2r}=frac13$ and $frac{B'C'}{2r}=frac23$ respectively. The third angle $angle A'B'C'=beta$ is the complement of $alpha+gamma$, so $sin beta = sin alphacosgamma+cosalphasingamma = frac23cdotfrac{sqrt{8}}{3}+frac13cdotfrac{sqrt{5}}{3}=frac{4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}}{9}$. Note also that $beta$ is obtuse.



                            Now, we deal with the isosceles triangle $A'C'E'$. Its angles are $180^circ-beta$, $180^circ-beta$, and $2beta-180^{circ}$. The length $A'E'$ we care about, of course, is opposite the one that's different. Its length is
                            begin{align*}A'E' &= 2rsin(2beta-180^circ)\
                            &= -2rsin(2beta) = -4rsinbetacosbeta\
                            &= -4cdot 3cdot frac{4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5}}{9}cdot frac{-sqrt{81-37-8sqrt{10}}}{9}\
                            &= frac{4(4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})sqrt{44-8sqrt{10}}}{27}=frac{4(4sqrt{2}+sqrt{5})(2sqrt{10}-2)}{27}\
                            &= frac{8(4sqrt{20}+sqrt{50}-4sqrt{2}-sqrt{5})}{27}=frac{8}{27}(7sqrt{5}+sqrt{2})end{align*}



                            Another verification of the same answer. I hope my somewhat different path is useful here.







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