Prove that $frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}$ is an integer. [duplicate]
$begingroup$
This question already has an answer here:
Prove $frac{k^7}7+frac{k^5}5+frac{2k^3}3-frac k{105}$ is a integer by mathematical induction [duplicate]
2 answers
Prove that $$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}$$ is an integer using mathematical induction.
I tried using mathematical induction but using binomial formula also it becomes little bit complicated.
Please show me your proof.
Sorry if this question was already asked. Actually i did not found it. In that case only sharing the link will be enough.
algebra-precalculus proof-writing induction
$endgroup$
marked as duplicate by Bill Dubuque
StackExchange.ready(function() {
if (StackExchange.options.isMobile) return;
$('.dupe-hammer-message-hover:not(.hover-bound)').each(function() {
var $hover = $(this).addClass('hover-bound'),
$msg = $hover.siblings('.dupe-hammer-message');
$hover.hover(
function() {
$hover.showInfoMessage('', {
messageElement: $msg.clone().show(),
transient: false,
position: { my: 'bottom left', at: 'top center', offsetTop: -7 },
dismissable: false,
relativeToBody: true
});
},
function() {
StackExchange.helpers.removeMessages();
}
);
});
});
Jan 16 at 20:41
This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.
|
show 2 more comments
$begingroup$
This question already has an answer here:
Prove $frac{k^7}7+frac{k^5}5+frac{2k^3}3-frac k{105}$ is a integer by mathematical induction [duplicate]
2 answers
Prove that $$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}$$ is an integer using mathematical induction.
I tried using mathematical induction but using binomial formula also it becomes little bit complicated.
Please show me your proof.
Sorry if this question was already asked. Actually i did not found it. In that case only sharing the link will be enough.
algebra-precalculus proof-writing induction
$endgroup$
marked as duplicate by Bill Dubuque
StackExchange.ready(function() {
if (StackExchange.options.isMobile) return;
$('.dupe-hammer-message-hover:not(.hover-bound)').each(function() {
var $hover = $(this).addClass('hover-bound'),
$msg = $hover.siblings('.dupe-hammer-message');
$hover.hover(
function() {
$hover.showInfoMessage('', {
messageElement: $msg.clone().show(),
transient: false,
position: { my: 'bottom left', at: 'top center', offsetTop: -7 },
dismissable: false,
relativeToBody: true
});
},
function() {
StackExchange.helpers.removeMessages();
}
);
});
});
Jan 16 at 20:41
This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.
2
$begingroup$
Put all terms on common denominator and prime factor the denominator and if possible numerator.
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:00
$begingroup$
It is $15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k$
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:01
$begingroup$
You now need everything to be divisible by $105 = 3cdot 5cdot 7$
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:05
$begingroup$
Sorry ! I did not get what you want to point out. If you are saying about proving divisibility it is still a task : how to prove it by induction ? The p:k+1 will contain nearly 20 terms
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:10
1
$begingroup$
Read this marvelous answer on how to make an induction proof work
$endgroup$
– Ross Millikan
Jan 16 at 17:11
|
show 2 more comments
$begingroup$
This question already has an answer here:
Prove $frac{k^7}7+frac{k^5}5+frac{2k^3}3-frac k{105}$ is a integer by mathematical induction [duplicate]
2 answers
Prove that $$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}$$ is an integer using mathematical induction.
I tried using mathematical induction but using binomial formula also it becomes little bit complicated.
Please show me your proof.
Sorry if this question was already asked. Actually i did not found it. In that case only sharing the link will be enough.
algebra-precalculus proof-writing induction
$endgroup$
This question already has an answer here:
Prove $frac{k^7}7+frac{k^5}5+frac{2k^3}3-frac k{105}$ is a integer by mathematical induction [duplicate]
2 answers
Prove that $$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}$$ is an integer using mathematical induction.
I tried using mathematical induction but using binomial formula also it becomes little bit complicated.
Please show me your proof.
Sorry if this question was already asked. Actually i did not found it. In that case only sharing the link will be enough.
This question already has an answer here:
Prove $frac{k^7}7+frac{k^5}5+frac{2k^3}3-frac k{105}$ is a integer by mathematical induction [duplicate]
2 answers
algebra-precalculus proof-writing induction
algebra-precalculus proof-writing induction
edited Jan 16 at 17:00
M Desmond
asked Jan 16 at 16:59
M DesmondM Desmond
1877
1877
marked as duplicate by Bill Dubuque
StackExchange.ready(function() {
if (StackExchange.options.isMobile) return;
$('.dupe-hammer-message-hover:not(.hover-bound)').each(function() {
var $hover = $(this).addClass('hover-bound'),
$msg = $hover.siblings('.dupe-hammer-message');
$hover.hover(
function() {
$hover.showInfoMessage('', {
messageElement: $msg.clone().show(),
transient: false,
position: { my: 'bottom left', at: 'top center', offsetTop: -7 },
dismissable: false,
relativeToBody: true
});
},
function() {
StackExchange.helpers.removeMessages();
}
);
});
});
Jan 16 at 20:41
This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.
marked as duplicate by Bill Dubuque
StackExchange.ready(function() {
if (StackExchange.options.isMobile) return;
$('.dupe-hammer-message-hover:not(.hover-bound)').each(function() {
var $hover = $(this).addClass('hover-bound'),
$msg = $hover.siblings('.dupe-hammer-message');
$hover.hover(
function() {
$hover.showInfoMessage('', {
messageElement: $msg.clone().show(),
transient: false,
position: { my: 'bottom left', at: 'top center', offsetTop: -7 },
dismissable: false,
relativeToBody: true
});
},
function() {
StackExchange.helpers.removeMessages();
}
);
});
});
Jan 16 at 20:41
This question has been asked before and already has an answer. If those answers do not fully address your question, please ask a new question.
2
$begingroup$
Put all terms on common denominator and prime factor the denominator and if possible numerator.
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:00
$begingroup$
It is $15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k$
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:01
$begingroup$
You now need everything to be divisible by $105 = 3cdot 5cdot 7$
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:05
$begingroup$
Sorry ! I did not get what you want to point out. If you are saying about proving divisibility it is still a task : how to prove it by induction ? The p:k+1 will contain nearly 20 terms
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:10
1
$begingroup$
Read this marvelous answer on how to make an induction proof work
$endgroup$
– Ross Millikan
Jan 16 at 17:11
|
show 2 more comments
2
$begingroup$
Put all terms on common denominator and prime factor the denominator and if possible numerator.
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:00
$begingroup$
It is $15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k$
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:01
$begingroup$
You now need everything to be divisible by $105 = 3cdot 5cdot 7$
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:05
$begingroup$
Sorry ! I did not get what you want to point out. If you are saying about proving divisibility it is still a task : how to prove it by induction ? The p:k+1 will contain nearly 20 terms
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:10
1
$begingroup$
Read this marvelous answer on how to make an induction proof work
$endgroup$
– Ross Millikan
Jan 16 at 17:11
2
2
$begingroup$
Put all terms on common denominator and prime factor the denominator and if possible numerator.
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:00
$begingroup$
Put all terms on common denominator and prime factor the denominator and if possible numerator.
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:00
$begingroup$
It is $15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k$
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:01
$begingroup$
It is $15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k$
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:01
$begingroup$
You now need everything to be divisible by $105 = 3cdot 5cdot 7$
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:05
$begingroup$
You now need everything to be divisible by $105 = 3cdot 5cdot 7$
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:05
$begingroup$
Sorry ! I did not get what you want to point out. If you are saying about proving divisibility it is still a task : how to prove it by induction ? The p:k+1 will contain nearly 20 terms
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:10
$begingroup$
Sorry ! I did not get what you want to point out. If you are saying about proving divisibility it is still a task : how to prove it by induction ? The p:k+1 will contain nearly 20 terms
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:10
1
1
$begingroup$
Read this marvelous answer on how to make an induction proof work
$endgroup$
– Ross Millikan
Jan 16 at 17:11
$begingroup$
Read this marvelous answer on how to make an induction proof work
$endgroup$
– Ross Millikan
Jan 16 at 17:11
|
show 2 more comments
8 Answers
8
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
@I like Serena has a great answer but since the OP asked for a proof by induction, I'll show what that would look like. Define
$$f(k)=frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}=frac{15k^7 + 21k^5+70k^3-k}{105}$$
For our base case, let $k=1$. Then we have
$$f(1)=frac{15+21+70-1}{105}=1$$
which is an integer. Now suppose $f(k)$ is an integer for some $kgeq 1$. We want to prove that $f(k+1)$ is also an integer. To that end, observe that
begin{align}
f(k+1)&=frac{15(k+1)^7 + 21(k+1)^5+70(k+1)^3-(k+1)}{105}\
&=frac{15k^7 + 105k^6+336k^5+630k^4 + 805k^3+735k^2+419k+105}{105}
end{align}
Therefore
begin{align}
f(k+1)-f(k)&=frac{105k^6+315k^5+630k^4+735k^3+735k^2+420k+105}{105}\
&=frac{105(k^6+3k^5+6k^4+7k^3+7k^2+4k+1)}{105}\
&= k^6+3k^5+6k^4+7k^3+7k^2+4k+1
end{align}
Which is an integer, say $N$. Rearranging this gives $f(k+1)=f(k)+N$ and since $f(k)$ is assumed to be an integer from the induction hypothesis, $f(k+1)$ is the sum of two integers, hence an integer.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Thanks 4 your effort
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:41
add a comment |
$begingroup$
We have:
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}
=frac{15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k}{3cdot 5cdot 7}
$$
To prove this is an integer we need that:
$$15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3cdot 5cdot 7}$$
According to the Chinese Remainder Theorem, this is the case iff
$$begin{cases}15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3} \
15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{5}\
15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{7}end{cases} iff
begin{cases}k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3} \
k^5-kequiv 0 pmod{5}\
k^7-kequiv 0 pmod{7}end{cases}$$
Fermat's Little Theorem says that $k^pequiv k pmod{p}$ for any prime $p$ and integer $k$.
Therefore the original expression is an integer.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
Nice. You are a fast writer!
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:12
1
$begingroup$
Excellent answer!
$endgroup$
– manooooh
Jan 16 at 17:15
$begingroup$
Fermat's Little Theorem says that if $p$ is prime and $k$ is an integer, then we have $k^p=k$ (mod $p$). How does it follow from $k^p=k$ (mod $p$) that $k$ is an integer?
$endgroup$
– EuxhenH
Jan 16 at 17:19
$begingroup$
It doesn't @EuxhenH. I just stated the result first and the conditions afterwards. It's exactly how you say it is.
$endgroup$
– Klaas van Aarsen
Jan 16 at 17:22
$begingroup$
@EuxhenH an integer raised to an integer is always an integer because integers are closed under multiplication and addition.
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:22
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
Call the expression $f(k)$. As it's a degree $7$ polynomial, it obeys the recurrence
$$sum_{j=0}^8(-1)^jbinom8jf(k-j)=0.$$
Thus
$$f(k)=8f(k-1)-28f(k-2)+56f(k-3)-70f(k-4)+56f(k-5)-28f(k-6)+8f(k-7)-f(k-8)$$
so that if $f$ takes eight consecutive integer values, by induction, all subsequent
values are integers too.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Very interesting. What causes the recurrence equation?
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:20
$begingroup$
@mathreadler iterated differences.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jan 16 at 17:21
$begingroup$
Does it work only with 7 degree ? Please give a reference where i can find this relations !
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:31
1
$begingroup$
@MDesmond $Delta f(k) := f(k+1)-f(k), $ reduces the degree of the polynomial $,f(k),$ since leading terms cancel. So if $f$ has degree $n$ then $,Delta^{n+1} f(k) = 0,$ yields a recurrence for $f(k).,$ Above is the binomial expansion using $,Delta = S-1,$ where $,S,f(k) = f(k+1),$ is the shift operator. See any textbook that treats recurrences or finite differences.
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 20:01
add a comment |
$begingroup$
hint...if you only want to use induction, let $$f(k)=15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k$$
and consider $$f(k+1)-f(k)=$$
For the induction step you have to show this is divisible by $105$
So, for example, $$(k+1)^7-k^7=7N+1$$ where $N$ is an integer, etc...
Can you finish?
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
You can use the binomial transform to prove that
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}
\={kchoose1}+28{kchoose2}+292{kchoose3}+1248{kchoose4}+2424{kchoose5}+2160{kchoose6}+720{kchoose7}$$
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Base case for $k=1$: $$frac{1^7}{7}+frac{1^5}{5}+frac{2*1^3}{3}-frac{1}{105}=1$$
Now, assume for some k that $frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}$ is indeed in integer.
Then $$frac{(k+1)^7}{7}+frac{(k+1)^5}{5}+frac{2(k+1)^3}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}=\frac{sum_{i=0}^7binom{7}{i}k^i}{7}+frac{sum_{i=0}^5binom{5}{i}k^i}{5}+2frac{sum_{i=0}^3binom{3}{i}k^i}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}=$$
Extracting the highest indexed term from each sum (and the $-frac{k}{105}$ at the end): $$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}+frac{sum_{i=0}^6binom{7}{i}k^i}{7}+frac{sum_{i=0}^4binom{5}{i}k^i}{5}+2frac{sum_{i=0}^2binom{3}{i}k^i}{3}-frac{1}{105}$$
By the induction hypothesis, the sum of the first four terms is an integer so, if we can show the rest of the above sum is an integer, we will be done. Use the fact that, for any prime, $p$, $p|binom{p}{k}$ where $1leq kleq p-1$. This is because $$binom{p}{k}=frac{p(p-1)...(p-k+1)}{k(k-1)...1}$$
$p$ divides the numerator but not the denominator (as $1leq kleq p-1$) so $p|binom{p}{k}$
So each term in the remaining sum with index $i$ $geq1$ and $leq p-1$ ($p$ being the respective prime in each sum) is divisible by the corresponding $p$ in the denominator and produces an integer. The only non-integer terms left will be the ones at $i=0$, i.e. $$frac{binom{7}{0}k^0}{7}+frac{binom{5}{0}k^0}{5}+frac{2binom{3}{0}k^0}{3}-frac{1}{105}=frac{1}{7}+frac{1}{5}+frac{2}{3}-frac{1}{105}=1$$
So $frac{(k+1)^7}{7}+frac{(k+1)^5}{5}+frac{2(k+1)^3}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}$ is a sum of integers making it an integer.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Because
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}=frac{k^7-k}{7}+frac{k^5-k}{5}+frac{2(k^3-k)}{3}+k.$$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Same as my answer after dividing by $,3cdot 5cdot 7 $
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:18
$begingroup$
They are similar but my equality we can see immediately. See please better that I wrote.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 19:20
$begingroup$
In my experience most students don't "immediately" see such fraction expansions.. Rather they first put it over a common denominator, as I did. From that it is easy to read off the fraction expansion (but there is no need to rewrite the key (Fernat) divisibilities in fraction form).
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:28
$begingroup$
I think you see that $-frac{1}{105}=-frac{1}{7}-frac{1}{5}-frac{2}{3}+1$. If so, we are done! I think, it's much more better than your writing.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 19:31
$begingroup$
How do you propose that one "sees" things like that in general?
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:32
|
show 4 more comments
$begingroup$
Hint $ $ Note that $ 3!cdot!5!cdot!7mid overbrace{3!cdot! 5, (color{#c00}{k^7!-!k})+ 3!cdot! 7, (color{#c00}{k^5!-!k})- 5!cdot! 7 (color{#c00}{k^3!-!k})+ 3!cdot! 5cdot! 7, k^3}^{Large{rm sum = this/(3cdot 5cdot 7)}}, $ by $,rmoverbrace{little color{#c00}{Fermat}}^{Large p mid color{#c00}{k^p-k}}$
Remark $ $ More generally this shows that if $,p,q,r,$ are primes and $,a,b,c,k,$ are integers
$$quad pqr,mid, aqr,(k^p!-!k)+bpr,(k^q!-!k)+cpq,(k^r!-!k)$$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Note that we don't actually have to recognize the above form to prove it is $equiv 0pmod{p},$ for $,p = 3,5,7,,$ since simply computing it $!bmod p,$ using $,k^pequiv k,$ easily proves it is $equiv 0, $ But I showed the form of the expression to reveal how it was constructed.
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:35
add a comment |
8 Answers
8
active
oldest
votes
8 Answers
8
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
@I like Serena has a great answer but since the OP asked for a proof by induction, I'll show what that would look like. Define
$$f(k)=frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}=frac{15k^7 + 21k^5+70k^3-k}{105}$$
For our base case, let $k=1$. Then we have
$$f(1)=frac{15+21+70-1}{105}=1$$
which is an integer. Now suppose $f(k)$ is an integer for some $kgeq 1$. We want to prove that $f(k+1)$ is also an integer. To that end, observe that
begin{align}
f(k+1)&=frac{15(k+1)^7 + 21(k+1)^5+70(k+1)^3-(k+1)}{105}\
&=frac{15k^7 + 105k^6+336k^5+630k^4 + 805k^3+735k^2+419k+105}{105}
end{align}
Therefore
begin{align}
f(k+1)-f(k)&=frac{105k^6+315k^5+630k^4+735k^3+735k^2+420k+105}{105}\
&=frac{105(k^6+3k^5+6k^4+7k^3+7k^2+4k+1)}{105}\
&= k^6+3k^5+6k^4+7k^3+7k^2+4k+1
end{align}
Which is an integer, say $N$. Rearranging this gives $f(k+1)=f(k)+N$ and since $f(k)$ is assumed to be an integer from the induction hypothesis, $f(k+1)$ is the sum of two integers, hence an integer.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Thanks 4 your effort
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:41
add a comment |
$begingroup$
@I like Serena has a great answer but since the OP asked for a proof by induction, I'll show what that would look like. Define
$$f(k)=frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}=frac{15k^7 + 21k^5+70k^3-k}{105}$$
For our base case, let $k=1$. Then we have
$$f(1)=frac{15+21+70-1}{105}=1$$
which is an integer. Now suppose $f(k)$ is an integer for some $kgeq 1$. We want to prove that $f(k+1)$ is also an integer. To that end, observe that
begin{align}
f(k+1)&=frac{15(k+1)^7 + 21(k+1)^5+70(k+1)^3-(k+1)}{105}\
&=frac{15k^7 + 105k^6+336k^5+630k^4 + 805k^3+735k^2+419k+105}{105}
end{align}
Therefore
begin{align}
f(k+1)-f(k)&=frac{105k^6+315k^5+630k^4+735k^3+735k^2+420k+105}{105}\
&=frac{105(k^6+3k^5+6k^4+7k^3+7k^2+4k+1)}{105}\
&= k^6+3k^5+6k^4+7k^3+7k^2+4k+1
end{align}
Which is an integer, say $N$. Rearranging this gives $f(k+1)=f(k)+N$ and since $f(k)$ is assumed to be an integer from the induction hypothesis, $f(k+1)$ is the sum of two integers, hence an integer.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Thanks 4 your effort
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:41
add a comment |
$begingroup$
@I like Serena has a great answer but since the OP asked for a proof by induction, I'll show what that would look like. Define
$$f(k)=frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}=frac{15k^7 + 21k^5+70k^3-k}{105}$$
For our base case, let $k=1$. Then we have
$$f(1)=frac{15+21+70-1}{105}=1$$
which is an integer. Now suppose $f(k)$ is an integer for some $kgeq 1$. We want to prove that $f(k+1)$ is also an integer. To that end, observe that
begin{align}
f(k+1)&=frac{15(k+1)^7 + 21(k+1)^5+70(k+1)^3-(k+1)}{105}\
&=frac{15k^7 + 105k^6+336k^5+630k^4 + 805k^3+735k^2+419k+105}{105}
end{align}
Therefore
begin{align}
f(k+1)-f(k)&=frac{105k^6+315k^5+630k^4+735k^3+735k^2+420k+105}{105}\
&=frac{105(k^6+3k^5+6k^4+7k^3+7k^2+4k+1)}{105}\
&= k^6+3k^5+6k^4+7k^3+7k^2+4k+1
end{align}
Which is an integer, say $N$. Rearranging this gives $f(k+1)=f(k)+N$ and since $f(k)$ is assumed to be an integer from the induction hypothesis, $f(k+1)$ is the sum of two integers, hence an integer.
$endgroup$
@I like Serena has a great answer but since the OP asked for a proof by induction, I'll show what that would look like. Define
$$f(k)=frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}=frac{15k^7 + 21k^5+70k^3-k}{105}$$
For our base case, let $k=1$. Then we have
$$f(1)=frac{15+21+70-1}{105}=1$$
which is an integer. Now suppose $f(k)$ is an integer for some $kgeq 1$. We want to prove that $f(k+1)$ is also an integer. To that end, observe that
begin{align}
f(k+1)&=frac{15(k+1)^7 + 21(k+1)^5+70(k+1)^3-(k+1)}{105}\
&=frac{15k^7 + 105k^6+336k^5+630k^4 + 805k^3+735k^2+419k+105}{105}
end{align}
Therefore
begin{align}
f(k+1)-f(k)&=frac{105k^6+315k^5+630k^4+735k^3+735k^2+420k+105}{105}\
&=frac{105(k^6+3k^5+6k^4+7k^3+7k^2+4k+1)}{105}\
&= k^6+3k^5+6k^4+7k^3+7k^2+4k+1
end{align}
Which is an integer, say $N$. Rearranging this gives $f(k+1)=f(k)+N$ and since $f(k)$ is assumed to be an integer from the induction hypothesis, $f(k+1)$ is the sum of two integers, hence an integer.
answered Jan 16 at 17:36
pwerthpwerth
3,310417
3,310417
$begingroup$
Thanks 4 your effort
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:41
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Thanks 4 your effort
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:41
$begingroup$
Thanks 4 your effort
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:41
$begingroup$
Thanks 4 your effort
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:41
add a comment |
$begingroup$
We have:
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}
=frac{15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k}{3cdot 5cdot 7}
$$
To prove this is an integer we need that:
$$15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3cdot 5cdot 7}$$
According to the Chinese Remainder Theorem, this is the case iff
$$begin{cases}15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3} \
15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{5}\
15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{7}end{cases} iff
begin{cases}k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3} \
k^5-kequiv 0 pmod{5}\
k^7-kequiv 0 pmod{7}end{cases}$$
Fermat's Little Theorem says that $k^pequiv k pmod{p}$ for any prime $p$ and integer $k$.
Therefore the original expression is an integer.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
Nice. You are a fast writer!
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:12
1
$begingroup$
Excellent answer!
$endgroup$
– manooooh
Jan 16 at 17:15
$begingroup$
Fermat's Little Theorem says that if $p$ is prime and $k$ is an integer, then we have $k^p=k$ (mod $p$). How does it follow from $k^p=k$ (mod $p$) that $k$ is an integer?
$endgroup$
– EuxhenH
Jan 16 at 17:19
$begingroup$
It doesn't @EuxhenH. I just stated the result first and the conditions afterwards. It's exactly how you say it is.
$endgroup$
– Klaas van Aarsen
Jan 16 at 17:22
$begingroup$
@EuxhenH an integer raised to an integer is always an integer because integers are closed under multiplication and addition.
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:22
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
We have:
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}
=frac{15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k}{3cdot 5cdot 7}
$$
To prove this is an integer we need that:
$$15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3cdot 5cdot 7}$$
According to the Chinese Remainder Theorem, this is the case iff
$$begin{cases}15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3} \
15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{5}\
15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{7}end{cases} iff
begin{cases}k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3} \
k^5-kequiv 0 pmod{5}\
k^7-kequiv 0 pmod{7}end{cases}$$
Fermat's Little Theorem says that $k^pequiv k pmod{p}$ for any prime $p$ and integer $k$.
Therefore the original expression is an integer.
$endgroup$
1
$begingroup$
Nice. You are a fast writer!
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:12
1
$begingroup$
Excellent answer!
$endgroup$
– manooooh
Jan 16 at 17:15
$begingroup$
Fermat's Little Theorem says that if $p$ is prime and $k$ is an integer, then we have $k^p=k$ (mod $p$). How does it follow from $k^p=k$ (mod $p$) that $k$ is an integer?
$endgroup$
– EuxhenH
Jan 16 at 17:19
$begingroup$
It doesn't @EuxhenH. I just stated the result first and the conditions afterwards. It's exactly how you say it is.
$endgroup$
– Klaas van Aarsen
Jan 16 at 17:22
$begingroup$
@EuxhenH an integer raised to an integer is always an integer because integers are closed under multiplication and addition.
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:22
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
We have:
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}
=frac{15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k}{3cdot 5cdot 7}
$$
To prove this is an integer we need that:
$$15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3cdot 5cdot 7}$$
According to the Chinese Remainder Theorem, this is the case iff
$$begin{cases}15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3} \
15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{5}\
15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{7}end{cases} iff
begin{cases}k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3} \
k^5-kequiv 0 pmod{5}\
k^7-kequiv 0 pmod{7}end{cases}$$
Fermat's Little Theorem says that $k^pequiv k pmod{p}$ for any prime $p$ and integer $k$.
Therefore the original expression is an integer.
$endgroup$
We have:
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}
=frac{15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k}{3cdot 5cdot 7}
$$
To prove this is an integer we need that:
$$15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3cdot 5cdot 7}$$
According to the Chinese Remainder Theorem, this is the case iff
$$begin{cases}15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3} \
15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{5}\
15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{7}end{cases} iff
begin{cases}k^3-kequiv 0 pmod{3} \
k^5-kequiv 0 pmod{5}\
k^7-kequiv 0 pmod{7}end{cases}$$
Fermat's Little Theorem says that $k^pequiv k pmod{p}$ for any prime $p$ and integer $k$.
Therefore the original expression is an integer.
edited Jan 16 at 18:42
answered Jan 16 at 17:11
Klaas van AarsenKlaas van Aarsen
4,3421822
4,3421822
1
$begingroup$
Nice. You are a fast writer!
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:12
1
$begingroup$
Excellent answer!
$endgroup$
– manooooh
Jan 16 at 17:15
$begingroup$
Fermat's Little Theorem says that if $p$ is prime and $k$ is an integer, then we have $k^p=k$ (mod $p$). How does it follow from $k^p=k$ (mod $p$) that $k$ is an integer?
$endgroup$
– EuxhenH
Jan 16 at 17:19
$begingroup$
It doesn't @EuxhenH. I just stated the result first and the conditions afterwards. It's exactly how you say it is.
$endgroup$
– Klaas van Aarsen
Jan 16 at 17:22
$begingroup$
@EuxhenH an integer raised to an integer is always an integer because integers are closed under multiplication and addition.
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:22
|
show 1 more comment
1
$begingroup$
Nice. You are a fast writer!
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:12
1
$begingroup$
Excellent answer!
$endgroup$
– manooooh
Jan 16 at 17:15
$begingroup$
Fermat's Little Theorem says that if $p$ is prime and $k$ is an integer, then we have $k^p=k$ (mod $p$). How does it follow from $k^p=k$ (mod $p$) that $k$ is an integer?
$endgroup$
– EuxhenH
Jan 16 at 17:19
$begingroup$
It doesn't @EuxhenH. I just stated the result first and the conditions afterwards. It's exactly how you say it is.
$endgroup$
– Klaas van Aarsen
Jan 16 at 17:22
$begingroup$
@EuxhenH an integer raised to an integer is always an integer because integers are closed under multiplication and addition.
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:22
1
1
$begingroup$
Nice. You are a fast writer!
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:12
$begingroup$
Nice. You are a fast writer!
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:12
1
1
$begingroup$
Excellent answer!
$endgroup$
– manooooh
Jan 16 at 17:15
$begingroup$
Excellent answer!
$endgroup$
– manooooh
Jan 16 at 17:15
$begingroup$
Fermat's Little Theorem says that if $p$ is prime and $k$ is an integer, then we have $k^p=k$ (mod $p$). How does it follow from $k^p=k$ (mod $p$) that $k$ is an integer?
$endgroup$
– EuxhenH
Jan 16 at 17:19
$begingroup$
Fermat's Little Theorem says that if $p$ is prime and $k$ is an integer, then we have $k^p=k$ (mod $p$). How does it follow from $k^p=k$ (mod $p$) that $k$ is an integer?
$endgroup$
– EuxhenH
Jan 16 at 17:19
$begingroup$
It doesn't @EuxhenH. I just stated the result first and the conditions afterwards. It's exactly how you say it is.
$endgroup$
– Klaas van Aarsen
Jan 16 at 17:22
$begingroup$
It doesn't @EuxhenH. I just stated the result first and the conditions afterwards. It's exactly how you say it is.
$endgroup$
– Klaas van Aarsen
Jan 16 at 17:22
$begingroup$
@EuxhenH an integer raised to an integer is always an integer because integers are closed under multiplication and addition.
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:22
$begingroup$
@EuxhenH an integer raised to an integer is always an integer because integers are closed under multiplication and addition.
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:22
|
show 1 more comment
$begingroup$
Call the expression $f(k)$. As it's a degree $7$ polynomial, it obeys the recurrence
$$sum_{j=0}^8(-1)^jbinom8jf(k-j)=0.$$
Thus
$$f(k)=8f(k-1)-28f(k-2)+56f(k-3)-70f(k-4)+56f(k-5)-28f(k-6)+8f(k-7)-f(k-8)$$
so that if $f$ takes eight consecutive integer values, by induction, all subsequent
values are integers too.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Very interesting. What causes the recurrence equation?
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:20
$begingroup$
@mathreadler iterated differences.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jan 16 at 17:21
$begingroup$
Does it work only with 7 degree ? Please give a reference where i can find this relations !
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:31
1
$begingroup$
@MDesmond $Delta f(k) := f(k+1)-f(k), $ reduces the degree of the polynomial $,f(k),$ since leading terms cancel. So if $f$ has degree $n$ then $,Delta^{n+1} f(k) = 0,$ yields a recurrence for $f(k).,$ Above is the binomial expansion using $,Delta = S-1,$ where $,S,f(k) = f(k+1),$ is the shift operator. See any textbook that treats recurrences or finite differences.
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 20:01
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Call the expression $f(k)$. As it's a degree $7$ polynomial, it obeys the recurrence
$$sum_{j=0}^8(-1)^jbinom8jf(k-j)=0.$$
Thus
$$f(k)=8f(k-1)-28f(k-2)+56f(k-3)-70f(k-4)+56f(k-5)-28f(k-6)+8f(k-7)-f(k-8)$$
so that if $f$ takes eight consecutive integer values, by induction, all subsequent
values are integers too.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Very interesting. What causes the recurrence equation?
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:20
$begingroup$
@mathreadler iterated differences.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jan 16 at 17:21
$begingroup$
Does it work only with 7 degree ? Please give a reference where i can find this relations !
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:31
1
$begingroup$
@MDesmond $Delta f(k) := f(k+1)-f(k), $ reduces the degree of the polynomial $,f(k),$ since leading terms cancel. So if $f$ has degree $n$ then $,Delta^{n+1} f(k) = 0,$ yields a recurrence for $f(k).,$ Above is the binomial expansion using $,Delta = S-1,$ where $,S,f(k) = f(k+1),$ is the shift operator. See any textbook that treats recurrences or finite differences.
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 20:01
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Call the expression $f(k)$. As it's a degree $7$ polynomial, it obeys the recurrence
$$sum_{j=0}^8(-1)^jbinom8jf(k-j)=0.$$
Thus
$$f(k)=8f(k-1)-28f(k-2)+56f(k-3)-70f(k-4)+56f(k-5)-28f(k-6)+8f(k-7)-f(k-8)$$
so that if $f$ takes eight consecutive integer values, by induction, all subsequent
values are integers too.
$endgroup$
Call the expression $f(k)$. As it's a degree $7$ polynomial, it obeys the recurrence
$$sum_{j=0}^8(-1)^jbinom8jf(k-j)=0.$$
Thus
$$f(k)=8f(k-1)-28f(k-2)+56f(k-3)-70f(k-4)+56f(k-5)-28f(k-6)+8f(k-7)-f(k-8)$$
so that if $f$ takes eight consecutive integer values, by induction, all subsequent
values are integers too.
answered Jan 16 at 17:14
Lord Shark the UnknownLord Shark the Unknown
108k1162135
108k1162135
$begingroup$
Very interesting. What causes the recurrence equation?
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:20
$begingroup$
@mathreadler iterated differences.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jan 16 at 17:21
$begingroup$
Does it work only with 7 degree ? Please give a reference where i can find this relations !
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:31
1
$begingroup$
@MDesmond $Delta f(k) := f(k+1)-f(k), $ reduces the degree of the polynomial $,f(k),$ since leading terms cancel. So if $f$ has degree $n$ then $,Delta^{n+1} f(k) = 0,$ yields a recurrence for $f(k).,$ Above is the binomial expansion using $,Delta = S-1,$ where $,S,f(k) = f(k+1),$ is the shift operator. See any textbook that treats recurrences or finite differences.
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 20:01
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Very interesting. What causes the recurrence equation?
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:20
$begingroup$
@mathreadler iterated differences.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jan 16 at 17:21
$begingroup$
Does it work only with 7 degree ? Please give a reference where i can find this relations !
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:31
1
$begingroup$
@MDesmond $Delta f(k) := f(k+1)-f(k), $ reduces the degree of the polynomial $,f(k),$ since leading terms cancel. So if $f$ has degree $n$ then $,Delta^{n+1} f(k) = 0,$ yields a recurrence for $f(k).,$ Above is the binomial expansion using $,Delta = S-1,$ where $,S,f(k) = f(k+1),$ is the shift operator. See any textbook that treats recurrences or finite differences.
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 20:01
$begingroup$
Very interesting. What causes the recurrence equation?
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:20
$begingroup$
Very interesting. What causes the recurrence equation?
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:20
$begingroup$
@mathreadler iterated differences.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jan 16 at 17:21
$begingroup$
@mathreadler iterated differences.
$endgroup$
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Jan 16 at 17:21
$begingroup$
Does it work only with 7 degree ? Please give a reference where i can find this relations !
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:31
$begingroup$
Does it work only with 7 degree ? Please give a reference where i can find this relations !
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:31
1
1
$begingroup$
@MDesmond $Delta f(k) := f(k+1)-f(k), $ reduces the degree of the polynomial $,f(k),$ since leading terms cancel. So if $f$ has degree $n$ then $,Delta^{n+1} f(k) = 0,$ yields a recurrence for $f(k).,$ Above is the binomial expansion using $,Delta = S-1,$ where $,S,f(k) = f(k+1),$ is the shift operator. See any textbook that treats recurrences or finite differences.
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 20:01
$begingroup$
@MDesmond $Delta f(k) := f(k+1)-f(k), $ reduces the degree of the polynomial $,f(k),$ since leading terms cancel. So if $f$ has degree $n$ then $,Delta^{n+1} f(k) = 0,$ yields a recurrence for $f(k).,$ Above is the binomial expansion using $,Delta = S-1,$ where $,S,f(k) = f(k+1),$ is the shift operator. See any textbook that treats recurrences or finite differences.
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 20:01
add a comment |
$begingroup$
hint...if you only want to use induction, let $$f(k)=15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k$$
and consider $$f(k+1)-f(k)=$$
For the induction step you have to show this is divisible by $105$
So, for example, $$(k+1)^7-k^7=7N+1$$ where $N$ is an integer, etc...
Can you finish?
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
hint...if you only want to use induction, let $$f(k)=15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k$$
and consider $$f(k+1)-f(k)=$$
For the induction step you have to show this is divisible by $105$
So, for example, $$(k+1)^7-k^7=7N+1$$ where $N$ is an integer, etc...
Can you finish?
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
hint...if you only want to use induction, let $$f(k)=15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k$$
and consider $$f(k+1)-f(k)=$$
For the induction step you have to show this is divisible by $105$
So, for example, $$(k+1)^7-k^7=7N+1$$ where $N$ is an integer, etc...
Can you finish?
$endgroup$
hint...if you only want to use induction, let $$f(k)=15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k$$
and consider $$f(k+1)-f(k)=$$
For the induction step you have to show this is divisible by $105$
So, for example, $$(k+1)^7-k^7=7N+1$$ where $N$ is an integer, etc...
Can you finish?
answered Jan 16 at 17:20
David QuinnDavid Quinn
24.1k21141
24.1k21141
add a comment |
add a comment |
$begingroup$
You can use the binomial transform to prove that
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}
\={kchoose1}+28{kchoose2}+292{kchoose3}+1248{kchoose4}+2424{kchoose5}+2160{kchoose6}+720{kchoose7}$$
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
You can use the binomial transform to prove that
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}
\={kchoose1}+28{kchoose2}+292{kchoose3}+1248{kchoose4}+2424{kchoose5}+2160{kchoose6}+720{kchoose7}$$
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
You can use the binomial transform to prove that
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}
\={kchoose1}+28{kchoose2}+292{kchoose3}+1248{kchoose4}+2424{kchoose5}+2160{kchoose6}+720{kchoose7}$$
$endgroup$
You can use the binomial transform to prove that
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}
\={kchoose1}+28{kchoose2}+292{kchoose3}+1248{kchoose4}+2424{kchoose5}+2160{kchoose6}+720{kchoose7}$$
answered Jan 16 at 17:26
Jean-Claude ArbautJean-Claude Arbaut
14.9k63464
14.9k63464
add a comment |
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Base case for $k=1$: $$frac{1^7}{7}+frac{1^5}{5}+frac{2*1^3}{3}-frac{1}{105}=1$$
Now, assume for some k that $frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}$ is indeed in integer.
Then $$frac{(k+1)^7}{7}+frac{(k+1)^5}{5}+frac{2(k+1)^3}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}=\frac{sum_{i=0}^7binom{7}{i}k^i}{7}+frac{sum_{i=0}^5binom{5}{i}k^i}{5}+2frac{sum_{i=0}^3binom{3}{i}k^i}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}=$$
Extracting the highest indexed term from each sum (and the $-frac{k}{105}$ at the end): $$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}+frac{sum_{i=0}^6binom{7}{i}k^i}{7}+frac{sum_{i=0}^4binom{5}{i}k^i}{5}+2frac{sum_{i=0}^2binom{3}{i}k^i}{3}-frac{1}{105}$$
By the induction hypothesis, the sum of the first four terms is an integer so, if we can show the rest of the above sum is an integer, we will be done. Use the fact that, for any prime, $p$, $p|binom{p}{k}$ where $1leq kleq p-1$. This is because $$binom{p}{k}=frac{p(p-1)...(p-k+1)}{k(k-1)...1}$$
$p$ divides the numerator but not the denominator (as $1leq kleq p-1$) so $p|binom{p}{k}$
So each term in the remaining sum with index $i$ $geq1$ and $leq p-1$ ($p$ being the respective prime in each sum) is divisible by the corresponding $p$ in the denominator and produces an integer. The only non-integer terms left will be the ones at $i=0$, i.e. $$frac{binom{7}{0}k^0}{7}+frac{binom{5}{0}k^0}{5}+frac{2binom{3}{0}k^0}{3}-frac{1}{105}=frac{1}{7}+frac{1}{5}+frac{2}{3}-frac{1}{105}=1$$
So $frac{(k+1)^7}{7}+frac{(k+1)^5}{5}+frac{2(k+1)^3}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}$ is a sum of integers making it an integer.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Base case for $k=1$: $$frac{1^7}{7}+frac{1^5}{5}+frac{2*1^3}{3}-frac{1}{105}=1$$
Now, assume for some k that $frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}$ is indeed in integer.
Then $$frac{(k+1)^7}{7}+frac{(k+1)^5}{5}+frac{2(k+1)^3}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}=\frac{sum_{i=0}^7binom{7}{i}k^i}{7}+frac{sum_{i=0}^5binom{5}{i}k^i}{5}+2frac{sum_{i=0}^3binom{3}{i}k^i}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}=$$
Extracting the highest indexed term from each sum (and the $-frac{k}{105}$ at the end): $$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}+frac{sum_{i=0}^6binom{7}{i}k^i}{7}+frac{sum_{i=0}^4binom{5}{i}k^i}{5}+2frac{sum_{i=0}^2binom{3}{i}k^i}{3}-frac{1}{105}$$
By the induction hypothesis, the sum of the first four terms is an integer so, if we can show the rest of the above sum is an integer, we will be done. Use the fact that, for any prime, $p$, $p|binom{p}{k}$ where $1leq kleq p-1$. This is because $$binom{p}{k}=frac{p(p-1)...(p-k+1)}{k(k-1)...1}$$
$p$ divides the numerator but not the denominator (as $1leq kleq p-1$) so $p|binom{p}{k}$
So each term in the remaining sum with index $i$ $geq1$ and $leq p-1$ ($p$ being the respective prime in each sum) is divisible by the corresponding $p$ in the denominator and produces an integer. The only non-integer terms left will be the ones at $i=0$, i.e. $$frac{binom{7}{0}k^0}{7}+frac{binom{5}{0}k^0}{5}+frac{2binom{3}{0}k^0}{3}-frac{1}{105}=frac{1}{7}+frac{1}{5}+frac{2}{3}-frac{1}{105}=1$$
So $frac{(k+1)^7}{7}+frac{(k+1)^5}{5}+frac{2(k+1)^3}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}$ is a sum of integers making it an integer.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Base case for $k=1$: $$frac{1^7}{7}+frac{1^5}{5}+frac{2*1^3}{3}-frac{1}{105}=1$$
Now, assume for some k that $frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}$ is indeed in integer.
Then $$frac{(k+1)^7}{7}+frac{(k+1)^5}{5}+frac{2(k+1)^3}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}=\frac{sum_{i=0}^7binom{7}{i}k^i}{7}+frac{sum_{i=0}^5binom{5}{i}k^i}{5}+2frac{sum_{i=0}^3binom{3}{i}k^i}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}=$$
Extracting the highest indexed term from each sum (and the $-frac{k}{105}$ at the end): $$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}+frac{sum_{i=0}^6binom{7}{i}k^i}{7}+frac{sum_{i=0}^4binom{5}{i}k^i}{5}+2frac{sum_{i=0}^2binom{3}{i}k^i}{3}-frac{1}{105}$$
By the induction hypothesis, the sum of the first four terms is an integer so, if we can show the rest of the above sum is an integer, we will be done. Use the fact that, for any prime, $p$, $p|binom{p}{k}$ where $1leq kleq p-1$. This is because $$binom{p}{k}=frac{p(p-1)...(p-k+1)}{k(k-1)...1}$$
$p$ divides the numerator but not the denominator (as $1leq kleq p-1$) so $p|binom{p}{k}$
So each term in the remaining sum with index $i$ $geq1$ and $leq p-1$ ($p$ being the respective prime in each sum) is divisible by the corresponding $p$ in the denominator and produces an integer. The only non-integer terms left will be the ones at $i=0$, i.e. $$frac{binom{7}{0}k^0}{7}+frac{binom{5}{0}k^0}{5}+frac{2binom{3}{0}k^0}{3}-frac{1}{105}=frac{1}{7}+frac{1}{5}+frac{2}{3}-frac{1}{105}=1$$
So $frac{(k+1)^7}{7}+frac{(k+1)^5}{5}+frac{2(k+1)^3}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}$ is a sum of integers making it an integer.
$endgroup$
Base case for $k=1$: $$frac{1^7}{7}+frac{1^5}{5}+frac{2*1^3}{3}-frac{1}{105}=1$$
Now, assume for some k that $frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}$ is indeed in integer.
Then $$frac{(k+1)^7}{7}+frac{(k+1)^5}{5}+frac{2(k+1)^3}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}=\frac{sum_{i=0}^7binom{7}{i}k^i}{7}+frac{sum_{i=0}^5binom{5}{i}k^i}{5}+2frac{sum_{i=0}^3binom{3}{i}k^i}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}=$$
Extracting the highest indexed term from each sum (and the $-frac{k}{105}$ at the end): $$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}+frac{sum_{i=0}^6binom{7}{i}k^i}{7}+frac{sum_{i=0}^4binom{5}{i}k^i}{5}+2frac{sum_{i=0}^2binom{3}{i}k^i}{3}-frac{1}{105}$$
By the induction hypothesis, the sum of the first four terms is an integer so, if we can show the rest of the above sum is an integer, we will be done. Use the fact that, for any prime, $p$, $p|binom{p}{k}$ where $1leq kleq p-1$. This is because $$binom{p}{k}=frac{p(p-1)...(p-k+1)}{k(k-1)...1}$$
$p$ divides the numerator but not the denominator (as $1leq kleq p-1$) so $p|binom{p}{k}$
So each term in the remaining sum with index $i$ $geq1$ and $leq p-1$ ($p$ being the respective prime in each sum) is divisible by the corresponding $p$ in the denominator and produces an integer. The only non-integer terms left will be the ones at $i=0$, i.e. $$frac{binom{7}{0}k^0}{7}+frac{binom{5}{0}k^0}{5}+frac{2binom{3}{0}k^0}{3}-frac{1}{105}=frac{1}{7}+frac{1}{5}+frac{2}{3}-frac{1}{105}=1$$
So $frac{(k+1)^7}{7}+frac{(k+1)^5}{5}+frac{2(k+1)^3}{3}-frac{k+1}{105}$ is a sum of integers making it an integer.
answered Jan 16 at 17:48
Cardioid_Ass_22Cardioid_Ass_22
47815
47815
add a comment |
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Because
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}=frac{k^7-k}{7}+frac{k^5-k}{5}+frac{2(k^3-k)}{3}+k.$$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Same as my answer after dividing by $,3cdot 5cdot 7 $
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:18
$begingroup$
They are similar but my equality we can see immediately. See please better that I wrote.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 19:20
$begingroup$
In my experience most students don't "immediately" see such fraction expansions.. Rather they first put it over a common denominator, as I did. From that it is easy to read off the fraction expansion (but there is no need to rewrite the key (Fernat) divisibilities in fraction form).
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:28
$begingroup$
I think you see that $-frac{1}{105}=-frac{1}{7}-frac{1}{5}-frac{2}{3}+1$. If so, we are done! I think, it's much more better than your writing.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 19:31
$begingroup$
How do you propose that one "sees" things like that in general?
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:32
|
show 4 more comments
$begingroup$
Because
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}=frac{k^7-k}{7}+frac{k^5-k}{5}+frac{2(k^3-k)}{3}+k.$$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Same as my answer after dividing by $,3cdot 5cdot 7 $
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:18
$begingroup$
They are similar but my equality we can see immediately. See please better that I wrote.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 19:20
$begingroup$
In my experience most students don't "immediately" see such fraction expansions.. Rather they first put it over a common denominator, as I did. From that it is easy to read off the fraction expansion (but there is no need to rewrite the key (Fernat) divisibilities in fraction form).
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:28
$begingroup$
I think you see that $-frac{1}{105}=-frac{1}{7}-frac{1}{5}-frac{2}{3}+1$. If so, we are done! I think, it's much more better than your writing.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 19:31
$begingroup$
How do you propose that one "sees" things like that in general?
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:32
|
show 4 more comments
$begingroup$
Because
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}=frac{k^7-k}{7}+frac{k^5-k}{5}+frac{2(k^3-k)}{3}+k.$$
$endgroup$
Because
$$frac{k^7}{7}+frac{k^5}{5}+frac{2k^3}{3}-frac{k}{105}=frac{k^7-k}{7}+frac{k^5-k}{5}+frac{2(k^3-k)}{3}+k.$$
answered Jan 16 at 19:13
Michael RozenbergMichael Rozenberg
110k1896201
110k1896201
$begingroup$
Same as my answer after dividing by $,3cdot 5cdot 7 $
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:18
$begingroup$
They are similar but my equality we can see immediately. See please better that I wrote.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 19:20
$begingroup$
In my experience most students don't "immediately" see such fraction expansions.. Rather they first put it over a common denominator, as I did. From that it is easy to read off the fraction expansion (but there is no need to rewrite the key (Fernat) divisibilities in fraction form).
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:28
$begingroup$
I think you see that $-frac{1}{105}=-frac{1}{7}-frac{1}{5}-frac{2}{3}+1$. If so, we are done! I think, it's much more better than your writing.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 19:31
$begingroup$
How do you propose that one "sees" things like that in general?
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:32
|
show 4 more comments
$begingroup$
Same as my answer after dividing by $,3cdot 5cdot 7 $
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:18
$begingroup$
They are similar but my equality we can see immediately. See please better that I wrote.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 19:20
$begingroup$
In my experience most students don't "immediately" see such fraction expansions.. Rather they first put it over a common denominator, as I did. From that it is easy to read off the fraction expansion (but there is no need to rewrite the key (Fernat) divisibilities in fraction form).
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:28
$begingroup$
I think you see that $-frac{1}{105}=-frac{1}{7}-frac{1}{5}-frac{2}{3}+1$. If so, we are done! I think, it's much more better than your writing.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 19:31
$begingroup$
How do you propose that one "sees" things like that in general?
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:32
$begingroup$
Same as my answer after dividing by $,3cdot 5cdot 7 $
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:18
$begingroup$
Same as my answer after dividing by $,3cdot 5cdot 7 $
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:18
$begingroup$
They are similar but my equality we can see immediately. See please better that I wrote.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 19:20
$begingroup$
They are similar but my equality we can see immediately. See please better that I wrote.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 19:20
$begingroup$
In my experience most students don't "immediately" see such fraction expansions.. Rather they first put it over a common denominator, as I did. From that it is easy to read off the fraction expansion (but there is no need to rewrite the key (Fernat) divisibilities in fraction form).
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:28
$begingroup$
In my experience most students don't "immediately" see such fraction expansions.. Rather they first put it over a common denominator, as I did. From that it is easy to read off the fraction expansion (but there is no need to rewrite the key (Fernat) divisibilities in fraction form).
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:28
$begingroup$
I think you see that $-frac{1}{105}=-frac{1}{7}-frac{1}{5}-frac{2}{3}+1$. If so, we are done! I think, it's much more better than your writing.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 19:31
$begingroup$
I think you see that $-frac{1}{105}=-frac{1}{7}-frac{1}{5}-frac{2}{3}+1$. If so, we are done! I think, it's much more better than your writing.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Jan 16 at 19:31
$begingroup$
How do you propose that one "sees" things like that in general?
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:32
$begingroup$
How do you propose that one "sees" things like that in general?
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:32
|
show 4 more comments
$begingroup$
Hint $ $ Note that $ 3!cdot!5!cdot!7mid overbrace{3!cdot! 5, (color{#c00}{k^7!-!k})+ 3!cdot! 7, (color{#c00}{k^5!-!k})- 5!cdot! 7 (color{#c00}{k^3!-!k})+ 3!cdot! 5cdot! 7, k^3}^{Large{rm sum = this/(3cdot 5cdot 7)}}, $ by $,rmoverbrace{little color{#c00}{Fermat}}^{Large p mid color{#c00}{k^p-k}}$
Remark $ $ More generally this shows that if $,p,q,r,$ are primes and $,a,b,c,k,$ are integers
$$quad pqr,mid, aqr,(k^p!-!k)+bpr,(k^q!-!k)+cpq,(k^r!-!k)$$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Note that we don't actually have to recognize the above form to prove it is $equiv 0pmod{p},$ for $,p = 3,5,7,,$ since simply computing it $!bmod p,$ using $,k^pequiv k,$ easily proves it is $equiv 0, $ But I showed the form of the expression to reveal how it was constructed.
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:35
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Hint $ $ Note that $ 3!cdot!5!cdot!7mid overbrace{3!cdot! 5, (color{#c00}{k^7!-!k})+ 3!cdot! 7, (color{#c00}{k^5!-!k})- 5!cdot! 7 (color{#c00}{k^3!-!k})+ 3!cdot! 5cdot! 7, k^3}^{Large{rm sum = this/(3cdot 5cdot 7)}}, $ by $,rmoverbrace{little color{#c00}{Fermat}}^{Large p mid color{#c00}{k^p-k}}$
Remark $ $ More generally this shows that if $,p,q,r,$ are primes and $,a,b,c,k,$ are integers
$$quad pqr,mid, aqr,(k^p!-!k)+bpr,(k^q!-!k)+cpq,(k^r!-!k)$$
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Note that we don't actually have to recognize the above form to prove it is $equiv 0pmod{p},$ for $,p = 3,5,7,,$ since simply computing it $!bmod p,$ using $,k^pequiv k,$ easily proves it is $equiv 0, $ But I showed the form of the expression to reveal how it was constructed.
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:35
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Hint $ $ Note that $ 3!cdot!5!cdot!7mid overbrace{3!cdot! 5, (color{#c00}{k^7!-!k})+ 3!cdot! 7, (color{#c00}{k^5!-!k})- 5!cdot! 7 (color{#c00}{k^3!-!k})+ 3!cdot! 5cdot! 7, k^3}^{Large{rm sum = this/(3cdot 5cdot 7)}}, $ by $,rmoverbrace{little color{#c00}{Fermat}}^{Large p mid color{#c00}{k^p-k}}$
Remark $ $ More generally this shows that if $,p,q,r,$ are primes and $,a,b,c,k,$ are integers
$$quad pqr,mid, aqr,(k^p!-!k)+bpr,(k^q!-!k)+cpq,(k^r!-!k)$$
$endgroup$
Hint $ $ Note that $ 3!cdot!5!cdot!7mid overbrace{3!cdot! 5, (color{#c00}{k^7!-!k})+ 3!cdot! 7, (color{#c00}{k^5!-!k})- 5!cdot! 7 (color{#c00}{k^3!-!k})+ 3!cdot! 5cdot! 7, k^3}^{Large{rm sum = this/(3cdot 5cdot 7)}}, $ by $,rmoverbrace{little color{#c00}{Fermat}}^{Large p mid color{#c00}{k^p-k}}$
Remark $ $ More generally this shows that if $,p,q,r,$ are primes and $,a,b,c,k,$ are integers
$$quad pqr,mid, aqr,(k^p!-!k)+bpr,(k^q!-!k)+cpq,(k^r!-!k)$$
edited Jan 16 at 20:26
answered Jan 16 at 18:05
Bill DubuqueBill Dubuque
213k29196654
213k29196654
$begingroup$
Note that we don't actually have to recognize the above form to prove it is $equiv 0pmod{p},$ for $,p = 3,5,7,,$ since simply computing it $!bmod p,$ using $,k^pequiv k,$ easily proves it is $equiv 0, $ But I showed the form of the expression to reveal how it was constructed.
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:35
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Note that we don't actually have to recognize the above form to prove it is $equiv 0pmod{p},$ for $,p = 3,5,7,,$ since simply computing it $!bmod p,$ using $,k^pequiv k,$ easily proves it is $equiv 0, $ But I showed the form of the expression to reveal how it was constructed.
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:35
$begingroup$
Note that we don't actually have to recognize the above form to prove it is $equiv 0pmod{p},$ for $,p = 3,5,7,,$ since simply computing it $!bmod p,$ using $,k^pequiv k,$ easily proves it is $equiv 0, $ But I showed the form of the expression to reveal how it was constructed.
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:35
$begingroup$
Note that we don't actually have to recognize the above form to prove it is $equiv 0pmod{p},$ for $,p = 3,5,7,,$ since simply computing it $!bmod p,$ using $,k^pequiv k,$ easily proves it is $equiv 0, $ But I showed the form of the expression to reveal how it was constructed.
$endgroup$
– Bill Dubuque
Jan 16 at 19:35
add a comment |
2
$begingroup$
Put all terms on common denominator and prime factor the denominator and if possible numerator.
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:00
$begingroup$
It is $15k^7+21k^5+70k^3-k$
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:01
$begingroup$
You now need everything to be divisible by $105 = 3cdot 5cdot 7$
$endgroup$
– mathreadler
Jan 16 at 17:05
$begingroup$
Sorry ! I did not get what you want to point out. If you are saying about proving divisibility it is still a task : how to prove it by induction ? The p:k+1 will contain nearly 20 terms
$endgroup$
– M Desmond
Jan 16 at 17:10
1
$begingroup$
Read this marvelous answer on how to make an induction proof work
$endgroup$
– Ross Millikan
Jan 16 at 17:11