Calculating the number of all the possible decreasing sequences made from a set of points?












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Forgive my english, not native, but here it goes:



We are given several values: {a1, a2, a3... ai}



We can create the point Ai only if the sum of its non-negative integer coordinates xi+yi = ai



We also define a decreasing sequence if for each 2 points - Ai(xi, yi) and A(i+1) (x(i+1), y(i+1)), we have xi ≤ x(i+1) and yi ≥ y(i+1). (see image below)



Sequence example



Example:



a1 = 4



a2 = 5



a3 = 3



This should give us 10 possible decreasing sequences.



How could I calculate this? Thank you.










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    To clarify, the coordinates must be nonnegative integers? That is, choosing $a_1=(-1,5)$ is not allowed?
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    Yes, this is correct, my bad for forgetting.
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$begingroup$


Forgive my english, not native, but here it goes:



We are given several values: {a1, a2, a3... ai}



We can create the point Ai only if the sum of its non-negative integer coordinates xi+yi = ai



We also define a decreasing sequence if for each 2 points - Ai(xi, yi) and A(i+1) (x(i+1), y(i+1)), we have xi ≤ x(i+1) and yi ≥ y(i+1). (see image below)



Sequence example



Example:



a1 = 4



a2 = 5



a3 = 3



This should give us 10 possible decreasing sequences.



How could I calculate this? Thank you.










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  • $begingroup$
    To clarify, the coordinates must be nonnegative integers? That is, choosing $a_1=(-1,5)$ is not allowed?
    $endgroup$
    – Mike Earnest
    Jan 17 at 16:36












  • $begingroup$
    Yes, this is correct, my bad for forgetting.
    $endgroup$
    – Sciencephile
    Jan 17 at 16:38














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$begingroup$


Forgive my english, not native, but here it goes:



We are given several values: {a1, a2, a3... ai}



We can create the point Ai only if the sum of its non-negative integer coordinates xi+yi = ai



We also define a decreasing sequence if for each 2 points - Ai(xi, yi) and A(i+1) (x(i+1), y(i+1)), we have xi ≤ x(i+1) and yi ≥ y(i+1). (see image below)



Sequence example



Example:



a1 = 4



a2 = 5



a3 = 3



This should give us 10 possible decreasing sequences.



How could I calculate this? Thank you.










share|cite|improve this question











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Forgive my english, not native, but here it goes:



We are given several values: {a1, a2, a3... ai}



We can create the point Ai only if the sum of its non-negative integer coordinates xi+yi = ai



We also define a decreasing sequence if for each 2 points - Ai(xi, yi) and A(i+1) (x(i+1), y(i+1)), we have xi ≤ x(i+1) and yi ≥ y(i+1). (see image below)



Sequence example



Example:



a1 = 4



a2 = 5



a3 = 3



This should give us 10 possible decreasing sequences.



How could I calculate this? Thank you.







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  • $begingroup$
    To clarify, the coordinates must be nonnegative integers? That is, choosing $a_1=(-1,5)$ is not allowed?
    $endgroup$
    – Mike Earnest
    Jan 17 at 16:36












  • $begingroup$
    Yes, this is correct, my bad for forgetting.
    $endgroup$
    – Sciencephile
    Jan 17 at 16:38


















  • $begingroup$
    To clarify, the coordinates must be nonnegative integers? That is, choosing $a_1=(-1,5)$ is not allowed?
    $endgroup$
    – Mike Earnest
    Jan 17 at 16:36












  • $begingroup$
    Yes, this is correct, my bad for forgetting.
    $endgroup$
    – Sciencephile
    Jan 17 at 16:38
















$begingroup$
To clarify, the coordinates must be nonnegative integers? That is, choosing $a_1=(-1,5)$ is not allowed?
$endgroup$
– Mike Earnest
Jan 17 at 16:36






$begingroup$
To clarify, the coordinates must be nonnegative integers? That is, choosing $a_1=(-1,5)$ is not allowed?
$endgroup$
– Mike Earnest
Jan 17 at 16:36














$begingroup$
Yes, this is correct, my bad for forgetting.
$endgroup$
– Sciencephile
Jan 17 at 16:38




$begingroup$
Yes, this is correct, my bad for forgetting.
$endgroup$
– Sciencephile
Jan 17 at 16:38










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Let $f(k,x)$ be the number of integer sequences $x_1,x_2,ldots, x_k$ with




  • $0le x_1le x_2leldotsle x_k=x$

  • $a_1-x_1ge a_2-x_2geldots ge a_k-x_kge 0$


You want to calculate $sum_{x=0}^{a_i}f(i,x)$.
You may achieve this by using the recursion
$$f(k+1,x)=begin{cases}0&text{if }x>a_{k+1}\sum_{j=0}^{x} f(k,j)&text{if} xle a_{k+1}le a_k\
sum_{j=0}^{x+a_k-a_{k+1}} f(k,j)&text{otherwise}
end{cases} $$






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    Let $f(k,x)$ be the number of integer sequences $x_1,x_2,ldots, x_k$ with




    • $0le x_1le x_2leldotsle x_k=x$

    • $a_1-x_1ge a_2-x_2geldots ge a_k-x_kge 0$


    You want to calculate $sum_{x=0}^{a_i}f(i,x)$.
    You may achieve this by using the recursion
    $$f(k+1,x)=begin{cases}0&text{if }x>a_{k+1}\sum_{j=0}^{x} f(k,j)&text{if} xle a_{k+1}le a_k\
    sum_{j=0}^{x+a_k-a_{k+1}} f(k,j)&text{otherwise}
    end{cases} $$






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      Let $f(k,x)$ be the number of integer sequences $x_1,x_2,ldots, x_k$ with




      • $0le x_1le x_2leldotsle x_k=x$

      • $a_1-x_1ge a_2-x_2geldots ge a_k-x_kge 0$


      You want to calculate $sum_{x=0}^{a_i}f(i,x)$.
      You may achieve this by using the recursion
      $$f(k+1,x)=begin{cases}0&text{if }x>a_{k+1}\sum_{j=0}^{x} f(k,j)&text{if} xle a_{k+1}le a_k\
      sum_{j=0}^{x+a_k-a_{k+1}} f(k,j)&text{otherwise}
      end{cases} $$






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        $begingroup$

        Let $f(k,x)$ be the number of integer sequences $x_1,x_2,ldots, x_k$ with




        • $0le x_1le x_2leldotsle x_k=x$

        • $a_1-x_1ge a_2-x_2geldots ge a_k-x_kge 0$


        You want to calculate $sum_{x=0}^{a_i}f(i,x)$.
        You may achieve this by using the recursion
        $$f(k+1,x)=begin{cases}0&text{if }x>a_{k+1}\sum_{j=0}^{x} f(k,j)&text{if} xle a_{k+1}le a_k\
        sum_{j=0}^{x+a_k-a_{k+1}} f(k,j)&text{otherwise}
        end{cases} $$






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        Let $f(k,x)$ be the number of integer sequences $x_1,x_2,ldots, x_k$ with




        • $0le x_1le x_2leldotsle x_k=x$

        • $a_1-x_1ge a_2-x_2geldots ge a_k-x_kge 0$


        You want to calculate $sum_{x=0}^{a_i}f(i,x)$.
        You may achieve this by using the recursion
        $$f(k+1,x)=begin{cases}0&text{if }x>a_{k+1}\sum_{j=0}^{x} f(k,j)&text{if} xle a_{k+1}le a_k\
        sum_{j=0}^{x+a_k-a_{k+1}} f(k,j)&text{otherwise}
        end{cases} $$







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